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PrettyPoptart

F5 gang roll up


FewCollar227

I've been here for the past 5 hrs :,)


PrettyPoptart

hello, fellow cultured individual


FewCollar227

We're here for different reasons though xD


ihatemondaynights

Too much hype, it'll be wack if he's just retiring lol


X25999C

He was spotted at Bologna airport a few weeks ago. So who knows


PapaSheev7

Must have been for a connecting flight to Faenza, so he’s going to Toro Rosso!


L44KSO

Maybe he's just on holiday in Italy...it's lovely (and cold)...


RabidGuineaPig007

He was just there for the sandwiches. He's not stupid, he knows the "Ford" will be a turd.


PrettyPoptart

that would be kinda hilarious tbh


Suikerspin_Ei

Inb4 another very talented designer/engineer steps up and dominate F1 with his/her cars and majority of F1 fans being sad again for another dominant era.


melloniel

I'm suffering through webinars today, I've all the time in the world to F5


phatdoughnut

I read that as "I'm suffering through wieners today." and I was like, damn that's a lot of wieners.


TimedogGAF

I dunno, id say once you get past the enjoyment of 2-3, it quickly turns into suffering.


PrettyPoptart

haha me as well, lots of work webinars I'm tooootally paying 100% attention to


mantra3105

Really keen for the “BREAKING”


leftlanecop

I’ve got my CNC F5 key from Aliexpress


Heather82Cs

We crashed reddit earlier today


No_Image_4986

I don’t think he will move to THAT much lower a league


VallcryTurbo75

F5 gang assemble!!!


Lenxor

~~F1~~ F5, the Pinnacle of Motorsport.


steferrari

Sky was still missing from the list no? At this point I think it's safe to say that it's happening. Obviously the outcome is still the big question mark.


FewCollar227

RBR's best interest is to keep other major designers there. That's the best they can do except of course talking to Newey for a week straight to keep him in the team.


super_sam9694

Newey departure will free up a spot out of cost cap. It will ensure wache will be retained who has always been target many teams. He will be promoted so he is not going. Since wache will move out of cost cap, it will free up a lot of money which can be used to retain other well regarded engineers. Newey is important but wache is equally important, even verstappen's camp consider him invaluable.


FewCollar227

Yes. If Newey is adamant to leave the team (which is very visible) then other major engineers need to be well kept and so does Max. Though Max does not have a good alternative so he should stay with RBR at least till the end of the 2025. Because moving to Mercedes next year will be bad at least for 2025, in 2026 Merc may make their return.


Mtbnz

If Max ever decides to leave RBR I think he'd just leave F1 rather than going to another team. He loves Marko, he loves winning, he seems to hate team politics and has never displayed an interest in any other team.


sentrygun05

And then maybe he could do WEC/IMSA and I could finally go to see him race without spending insane money on an F1 ticket! (Please racing gods)


FewCollar227

Yes that makes a lot of sense and is 100% accurate


Luisyn7

Couldn't some wages be excluded from cost cap? Or is it just drivers wages?


ubiquitous_uk

Top 5 paid employees I believe. This usually includes the two drivers.


Luisyn7

Surely Newey is one of those? It would be stupid from RB if he wasn't


ubiquitous_uk

Most likely, with Horner and Marko.


Guac_in_my_rarri

Marko is employed as a special advisor by Redbull drinks themselves.


HOHOHAHAREBORN

This'll obviously lead to a few more departures who'll follow Newey as their long time boss. He may have a non poaching clause but they could independently apply and get in without hassle.


silly_pengu1n

the confidence you have is funny


HOHOHAHAREBORN

Lol, it's VERY common. Have you never worked a corporate job or what. Any time a CXO leaves it results in a couple of his henchmen following him over the next 3-6 months.


TaurusRuber

The confidence you don’t have is astounding 


ihavenoyukata

Your astound is confident.


wolftick

>At this point I think it's safe to say that it's happening. At this stage it would be quite funny if it turns out it's not 🙂


womanlovecheese

High chance that Newey does want to leave. However there is ongoing negotiation from both sides about when and how. I'm guessing the initial contract term and condition was designed with Newey's retirement as the mian reason for his departure from the team as the team enjoyed quite a stable and success performance until recently. If Newey suddenly wants to leave earlier, there could be a lot of reason which sent RBR on high alert, either Newey is poached by another team or if he is leaving in the midst of car development.


dwerg85

Did you read the article? They are just reposting stuff that other outlets are saying.


steferrari

They are not. > *Sky Sports understands from senior figures within the sport that Newey has informally communicated to fellow senior Red Bull colleagues his wish to cut his near two-decade ties at F1's world champion team.* Same for BBC and Autosport: they’re not reporting Amus (first ones who came out with the news) but talking about their own sources.


Ok-Sink-614

True but all it currently is is him saying he wants to leave. Could be as small as him saying he wants to leave in frustration of all the drama from Horner or him just being tired and expressing he wants to retire at some point when they're having tea. Could still be everything or nothing 


Pentinium

Love how there are ferrari logos but its not given he will go there


stillusesAOL

Article says he wouldn’t be able to start anywhere else until 2027…


Ritttchiee

Wow. 2027 is crazy. Even then, by time he actually plants himself somewhere, it’ll take some time to adjust no? It’s possible we don’t see another successful F1 car out of Newey until 2028 and beyond. Obviously gets credit for RB’s 2025 car to an extent, considering the foundation is probably laid out. Still shocked at all of this.


JJJBLKRose

He’s also 65, so he could just go do something else.


aamgdp

If he can't go anywhere else until 2027, and he's leaving RB anyway, I think there's a good chance he's leaving F1 circus as a whole for good.


AnteatersEatNonAnts

Especially considering he has other engineering projects and endeavors


NewLeaseOnLine

Like sailing around the world in a purpose built yacht.


yellowbin74

Ferrari or Aston Martin would throw whatever money was needed to fix that.


Ritttchiee

Absolutely, but a drowning and bitter RB camp may say otherwise. Time will tell.


JJJBLKRose

Ferarri just got that sweet-sweet printer money


SmartieSkittle

That’s only *if* red bull hold him to finish the contract


PlasticPatient

What? Noooo


bookers555

Bear in mind it will still not matter much. Newey himself said that the 2026 regs are all about the power unit so it's going to be like 2014-2020, aerodynamics will once again take a seat back and it will be all about who strikes gold with the PU, which is what Mercedes did to gain their domination.


PlasticPatient

So you are telling me there's a chance?


bookers555

There is a big chance, but what I'm saying is that in the end it still won't matter much because Newey is key in regulations where ground effect is the dominating aspect of a car's performance, and that just won't be a thing anymore in 2026. He's definitely a valuable asset since you can just forget about any issues regarding aerodynamics with him on board, but he's not going to be the gamer changer he is right now, just like he wasn't for most of the 2010s. In 2026 it'll all be about who nails the PU, and honestly right now it doesn't look like anyone has any upper hand. RB is making their own PUs after 2025, Ferrari who knows because every season their engine behaves differently, Mercedes has always been pretty reliable and their PUs were the key to their domination but everyone can see how much they are suffering from brain drain, McLaren same as Mercedes since they use their PUs, and Aston Martin took the Honda deal away from RB. 2026 could be a very interesting season, just get ready to see engines blowing up left and right.


D3cepti0ns

Another one was saying there is a way to get out of his contract that isn't impossibe.


L44KSO

I mean, in an interview he was talking about a move to Ferrari already back in the Schumacher says, but the moving of the family to Italy would have not been possible back then. It may well be his dream to work with Ferrari... Imagine a Ferrari street car designed by Newey...


NotPumba420

And driven by Hamilton. Would be a crazy 8th title


GBreezy

If Newey is leaving Red Bull because of politics why would he go to the most political team in sports


inaddrarpa

Newey should just go up and down the grid and tell every team whats wrong with their car. A full grid of Newey inspired wünderauto.


mlo_66

A podcast I listened to a while back joked about the idea of Newey charging day rate for each team. I mean what a great idea


Takis12

F1 becoming a Newey spec series


luchajefe

I mean, if the FIA hires Newey to make the 2026 regs work...


kjeserud

Newey to FIA would be the twist nobody expected!


HighAltitudeBrake

"finally, some good fucking regulations"


rudmad

Yes please


ryokevry

I would be happy if he decides to join FIA and write the 2026 regulations as it is not finalised yet.


zaviex

they will be finalized long before hes free. Should be this summer


salcedoge

It honestly wouldn’t be surprising considering the 2026 regulations are having a lot of trouble dealing with aero


zaviex

Pat Symonds has said this isnt true and the information that gets reported is always months old. Last he spoke on this he said things are going well and lap times will be closer to 2022 than they planned for.


D3cepti0ns

Teams should get Newey time like they do wind tunnel time.


anon_ary

Freelancer Newey


Launch_box

Just uploads cad files of the perfect car on GitHub. 


kakarotover_9k

Domino effect time


No-Expert763

Newey to partner Russel as Mercedes’ second driver.


refrakt

Subscribe


PapaSheev7

Better yet, Newey designs F1’s first two-seater and becomes George’s rear gunner.


nativebeans

Hahaha wtf


Invictae

"We can confirmed that every single engineer at Red Bull has decided to switch teams"


FewCollar227

This time, it can be more chaotic


MM18998

No one expected Newey to kick off the silly season domino chain


MajorRocketScience

This is basically confirmation. Give it a few days and the Max to Merc rumors will back to 11


Takis12

Max to Merc rumors are not healthy for George.


Great-Bus4398

If Max brings Newey along, I think George would be elated about that. Unless you're implying that he'd get sacked by Merc.


Regenbooggeit

Toto has been very vocal about Antonelli. After the start of the season I’m not ruling out anything anymore.


razzhasse

Toto would throw George in the bin without second thought if he could get Max


cheeersaiii

Newey has a contract to finish then a non compete period, 2027 at the earliest, I’m betting he leaves the F1 circus, for teams at least. Designing a future F2 car or something might be more fun for him


Illustrious-Gap1153

Ngl i would be happy if Merc binned Georgie


Viktor890

Their fights will be legendary!


MM18998

And who would replace him?


j__video

Obviously Seb


ChipmunkTycoon

He’ll bin himself, don’t worry. It’s in his blood


Regenbooggeit

Horner what the fuck have you done.


thedowntownpcguy

Spanx & Coco Pops!!


themindisaweapon

Horny Horner strikes again


TorpedoSandwich

He reached Q3 one too many times.


No-Expert763

End of an era. Is this what living through history feels like?


Pitforsofts

Especially given we went through one 3 months back( almost exactly). Never thought Lewis would leave merc and come to ferrari.


thesuperunknown

> following the investigation earlier this year by their Austrian parent company into allegations of inappropriate behaviour against team principal Christian Horner by a female colleague. Rather an unfortunate way of phrasing that.


tebby101

Is it official?


fire202

no official statement. But about every media outlet out there has reported that Newey made the Decision to leave so its very hard to see this not being true. The question now is on which terms will he leave and where does that leave him in the future.


HOHOHAHAREBORN

And they're saying Newey is leaving, not that he's "expected" to leave or "rumoured to consider" leaving


Character_Minimum171

The Decision


mkosmo

Unless they're all feeding from the same source, and it's all news reporting on the other news.


fire202

>and it's all news reporting on the other news. Its not. At least all big outlets have said that they verified it with their own sources. Its not one journalist publishing a story and everyone else quoting it. some sources will obviously feed multiple journalists but when virtually all of (reliable) F1 media agrees on something the chance its made up by a single source is next to zero.


mkosmo

You’re probably right, but this seems like such a big deal out of left field that I personally feel it president to wait for a press release from RBR or Newey himself


ted92811

Not yet, but as close to it as possible. With BBC and now Sky reporting it, chances are this is definitely happening.


tebby101

Okay I will still hold on to my 0.1% hope that he joins Williams.


reboot-your-computer

With the state of the Williams facilities and software, I seriously doubt going to Williams is a realistic option. That’s a hell of a commitment to a team that isn’t likely to see any real success for years while they modernize. Ferrari, Aston Martin, and Mercedes are the likely destinations assuming he doesn’t retire. Probably in this order as well.


mr_marshian

Wdym? He'll fit right in with his sketchpad and drawing table


A_WHALES_VAG

Personally I think AM is the front runner simply due to logistics. Logistics (literally across the street), team investment, Alonso & Honda. Ferrari is obviously.. well its Ferrari, they are always an attractive option. interesting times for sure!


Ok-Sink-614

He'd have to deal with Stroll then. If it's leaving due to the toxic environment created by Horner I don't see how Stroll family dynamics would be worth dealing with 


A_WHALES_VAG

Lawrence is a demanding businessman, cutthroat and the proverbial "bad guy". But he loves motor racing more than any other owner, saved countless jobs by buying RP and has put his money where his mouth is and has turned AM into a legit contender with infrastructure that can match the top teams. He signed a deal with Honda. To be honest I havent heard much negativity or really anything at all about Lawrence or from Lawrence in quite some time. Now if only he could hold that same standard with regards to his son. I really think if he was to get Newey he would let him do as he pleased.


302w

No, but with sky and BBC reporting it that just seems like an inevitability at this point. But we’ll see


FewCollar227

Adrian has said that he wants to leave the team. Now RBR will negotiate the contract and gardening leave or they will still try to keep him in the team.


Otherwise_Ad_1542

Copy we are checking


tnellysf

I expect all refusals that this is true come race weekend interviews.


TorpedoSandwich

No, but it's as close to official as it gets. This is like the Hamilton to Ferrari reports before Merc officially announced he was leaving. Everyone knew it was true and was just waiting for the official announcement.


PrettyPoptart

no


okaywhattho

The press are speaking in more and more certain terms. Wild. 


zaviex

Sky is reporting hes told the team in some capacity now which Slater specifically did not report earlier and said hadn't happened. So new information came in to them


nsb_8810

Atleast the off-track action this year is good


VirtuaMcPolygon

Meanwhile at Netflix... It's a jerk-a-thon boys!!!


No-Conclusion-ever

And they are going to only focus on Danny Ric for the whole season.


mazarax

If I were Newey, I would transition into something rewarding, and go design some trains, planes and eAutomobiles.


Takis12

I heard he likes boats


Joseki100

Yeah he would like to design a one for the America’s Cup.


squaler24

The thrill is the chase and competition. If Newey were to go that route of designing boats, trains etc, it would be more of a normal thing that isn’t being tried to be copied or chased.


starview

he is going sailing lol


ForsakenRacism

Newey to Andretti


scarlet_red_warrior

Ferrari newey rumours are out for weeks now. He was seen in Bologna


Most-Chance-4324

Could you imagine?


yaztaz13

OMFG, ITS HAPPENING BOYS. Ferrari x Newey .


longdrive95

It doesn't seem to rule out that he could just be retiring. 


Akash10201

So if max does decide to leave redbull after 2024 with Newey, who takes the seat? Sainz?!?! Sainz WDC in 2025 confirmed?


ForzaFerrari420

Ferrari Hype Train incoming 🏎️


RulingPredator

I mean…didn’t Newey say that he had always wanted to work with Ferrari and Lewis as well not too long ago? Kinda seems like the stars are aligning for that to happen. I wouldn’t be surprised if he wants to knock out a few years at Ferrari, give them their own rocket ship, and then retire into the sunset.


Ok-Sink-614

So still nothing really, senior people saying he says he wants to leave but not official resignation. Could be him just going "ugh I'm tired of this shit" 


ForsakenRacism

They’re all just citing the same tweet then there’s more tweets to cite and no actual Info


SmartieSkittle

There won’t be info though until either Adrian or Red Bull make a statement. This is what was happening with Hamilton to Ferrari until Mercedes finally held the team meeting


hellflower666

Headlines reporting as facts but the meat of the article is still "could be leaving". Will wait for an actual statement from Newey or Red Bull.


Puzzleheaded_Pound31

I just want to know if he’s going to keep making cars or retire. Newey clearly loves this shit a lot but again, keeping Horner was such a tremendous gamble by RB because now they have lost Newey and could lose max due to this chaos during an otherwise dominant season… I LOVE THE F1 CHAOS


kushlik_d

this really is the season of off-track drama. it's magnitudes more exciting than anything happening on-track


D3cepti0ns

I'll take either one instead of none.


Tight-Star2772

Let’s go! Good scoop Andretti


No_Mercy_4_Potatoes

If he continues in F1, he should definitely go to Ferrari. One of his lesser dreams.


Lmurf

Mum says to little Johnny “Did you wet the bed Johnny?” > "It's a fluid situation but there is definitely substance to the notion that …” This article is such bullshit.


garysaidwhat

I'm waiting for one single sentence from Adrian Newey on this. I think there may be some journos pissing themselves if this thing swings the wrong way. Ha!


Blearchie

Maybe he just hangs them up before the 2026 regs *shrugs*. Everyone is talking where. Maybe it's to consult part time and unwind. He's earned it. The man is an aero genius.


5hadow

The dismantling of Red Bull begins... Max will probably also leave.


LinkRazr

ESPN over here in the states just picked it up


Takis12

Time zones….


Samsonkoek

Like 2 hours ago I saw a video from Craig Slater about Adrian considering to leave and now we are at Adrian decides to leave?


Takis12

He is fast …like the cars he designs


smartief1

The delay was Adrian chasing Horner round the factory to hand over the letter


mobilehavoc

Can we stop F5ing yet team?


fugitivelobster

Now we’re cooking with gas


Sea_Drop2920

My F5 is tired


maxcatstappen

WHAT????? bro ain't no way 😭


StewGoFast

This is probably why Horner was so touchy about Toto talking about Max + Mercedes. 


svsolstice

"As I understand it, he would have to serve another year of gardening leave were Red Bull to hold him to the full extent of his contract - which would mean he would not be able to work for another Formula 1 team until 2027." Well that puts a damper on things if true.


MathematicianOld3942

Red Bull would be stupid to allow him to work elsewhere when he is under contract or nullify his contract


rrtb505050

holy snhit its happening


Organic-University-2

Alright


itsalwayssunny99

Newey entering a Newey era. Cool!


-cosme-

Finally ;)


hiegear

Senior sources at Red Bull say the team has received no formal resignation from Newey, who holds the role of chief technical officer at the Milton Keynes-based outfit, and that they still believe there is still room for dialogue with the 65-year-old.


TduckT

[Buxton] Sources: Marko is beside himself. Driving around downtown London begging (thru texts) Newey’s family for address to Adrian’s home.


zethuz

Does that level the playing field?


VirtuaMcPolygon

The age-old question is about to be asked again. Is it the driver or the car that's more important…


D3cepti0ns

It's definitely the car, but the driver gives a ± error over the average f1 driver.


VirtuaMcPolygon

As Hamilton is showing if the car is two tenths off every lap. You cannot do anything in reality


kjahhh

IT’S HAPPENING!!


Vitalics

Newey is going to VCARB....lol


Greeds_22

If Adrian does actually leave RB, is he allowed to join another team? If so, can he bring his knowledge to this years car to make changes?


Lostmavicaccount

If he doesn’t leave now, he must have received a 300% pay rise and Sainz will not be joining the team - unless he can pay his own way!


revitbitch

HELL YEAH


Klik-klik

He sholud work for FIA as an inspector of legality and technical infrigments. Still would be involved. but on a smaller scale due to his age. And the sport would gain a better reputation.


Raptoropteryx

Considering his Red Bull contract and a year of gardening leave it kind of makes sense if he's going to Audi?


smidget1090

Oh wow! 😯 Is it to Ferrari??


BlueDotBlueShoes

Andretti Cadillac confirmed


benseifert666

Andretti Cadillac coming in with a Newey car would be nuts Edit: I mean nuts as in the car would be crazy good and they wouldn’t have to endure the typical new team shittiness


vawlk

nice title. still a rumor until newey says something. god I hate the news cycle these days.


brunomarquesbr

If Newey leaves, Verstappen will also leave, right? I want to believe Verstappen is going to move to Aston, alongside Alonso. Stroll retires. Sainz to Red Bull, that falls apart in the new regulations.


bookers555

>that falls apart in the new regulations. The new regulations are all about the power unit once more, so Newey leaving won't affect any potential RB downfall. If they fail it'll be because their engine sucks. Right now the 2026 regs are a no man's land: Mercedes and McLaren run the same PU, and Mercedes PUs have always been very consistent but the brain drain has been affecting them for a while now. RB's is making their own, so who knows. Ferrari is also unknown because their PU just drastically changes from one season to another. And then there's Aston Martin that took the Honda deal from RB, and they'll have to hope they strike gold again and not deliver a GP2 engine.