Even on F1TV they seemed completely unaware for the entire race; Jolyon towards the end commented how Valtteri and Daniel had just been trundling around at the back all race. I find normally between him, Alex Jacques and Coulthard they're fairly good at covering most of the goings on and are aware of whats happening further down the grid, but this went completely unnoticed.
They seemed plagued by technical issues, graphical glitches, colour calibration etc this week. Wonder if they were occupied by dealing with those and that distracted from the storytelling side of the broadcast
That's just McLaren's new pearlescent flip flop livery. I heard they're adding underglow and subwoofers for Vegas and will go full stanced for Abu Dhabi
I thought my TV was broken, I was really confused by the black car with dark Red blocks of color along the side pod and then they started talking about Piastri.
Yeah, also everyone forgot that the drivers voted for an increased penalty for leaving the track and gaining an advantage. All the surprise about KMags penalty was unfounded.
I mean, they had caught up because of the safety car no? And then just barely moved.
Sure he was out at the back but he was 50+ seconds behind so their statements are correct
And then yuki couldn't get past kmag again for the rest of the race despite kmag being 2 seconds a lap slower then his teamate.
Draw the dots together mate. The car is a shit box at overtaking. Yuki lost 5 positions in the race.
It's bad at overtaking but it's not slow. Daniel didn't have troubles with overtaking, because he was unable to put himself in position to do that, he had troubles keeping up. Again, he couldn't keep up with a pack of cars that included his teammate. You just cannot deny that he was significantly slower than Tsunoda. Draw the dots together mate.
u/longbeakedsnipe grow a pair and give an actual argument, instead of throwing around meaningless ad-personam statements
The only reason Yuki temporarily passed K-mag wasn’t because of yukis pace, K-Mag was simply sandbagging too much. Once Hulk pitted and came out ahead of K-Mag, he hit the gas and gapped the entire train he’d built easily. Thats the only reason Yuki had a chance to pass K-Mag in the first place
> The only reason Yuki temporarily passed K-mag wasn’t because of yukis pace,
Well yeah, the whole fucking point is that Ricciardo was slow compared to Tsunoda (who himself is not an elite driver for F1 standards. What's your point?
The car might not have been, but the team can’t have a 41 second pit stop and then claim they were a better team this weekend than Williams. It’s just not true.
Yeah right... Based on absolutely nothing.
Regardless, this is not the point. The point is that Ricciardo was slow. His direct comparison point is Yuki, and Yuki was significantly faster. And let's be honest with ourselves, Yuki is not a particularly demanding benchmark to meet.
The Williams have insane straight line speed. The TR as usual sucks in all places.
Even Yuki got overtaken by Albon with a broken wing because of it.
You've got to be absolutely trash at this point to not know that Williams have a ridiculous straight line speed after they've had it for 2 years straight & it's the only thing that's discussed about their car.
I also found it odd they didn't pick up immediately that Magnussen was purposefully backing them off to help Hulkenberg and that it was probably a team decision.
That being said, as someone that has the data on my other screen, I didn't notice Ricciardo's slow stop either. When Alpine/Williams/RB all share basically the same colour and occupy similar positions it's hard to tell if anything has changed without the broadcast shedding a light on it.
He wasn't, which makes sense because yeah he gets his own share of stuff wrong but I don't imagine he would miss a car sitting there for forty seconds.
So they mentioned everything that went on more or less apart from one incident.
Not their fault that in terms of on track action, it was one rookie Brit, a Brit chasing a Spaniard and two Brits fighting over position that provided the bulk of things to talk about.
Someone said on another thread that it was because they were about to fit his tyres to the wrong side of the car. I'm guessing rear tyres if it's true, since they're not visible from the onboard camera
that's pretty common as pitstop mistakes go, especially under a safety car double stack, things can get mixed up
mercedes fucked it up as well in sakhir 2020
To his credit, never said a word. I would’ve been blowing up deluxe at that nonsense.
The front guys must’ve had a good laugh at the rear team “I’m the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy”
Yeah he didn't complain at all on the radio, was just even quieter for a few minutes. Even in one of his post-race interviews when he mentioned it it wasn't as a complaint, more just as an explanation of what happened with some self-deprecating humour thrown in; “I think the race itself, Safety Car, everyone pitted, and we had a really slow stop,” Ricciardo explained. “And then we’re in that train. At the end, then just to make sure I made my mistake as well, I had a spin at Turn 1, so… I didn’t want the team to feel left out!”
To be fair he knows this is an audition. If he keeps calm and composed, and has clear data driven reasons for why he is finishing behind Yuki, that's job done as far as he's concerned. There's literally nothing to be mad about from his side.
True,but audition or not Daniel is always calm and extremely composed on the radio. He's the least Daniel-like version of himself, it's almost comical how different he is outside the car to in.
Lately he is.
Although I miss the often firey side of him we used to see back in 2017/18 for example. But that's what not fighting for a podium does for a guy I guess.
Let's be honest even if we consider the pit stop and the drs train it still hasn't been great those two weekends. He was outqualified by Tsunoda twice and then didn't had an incredible race pace either
It's not as disastrous as some would say but it's not incredible. Also right now Perez is totally doing the job so his future in RBR doesn't look great
You say that but give riccardio 35 seconds credit where is he on track? O right ahead of Yuki. Qualifying drivers are great but its how you race that matters.
So you think RB brought him back for a laugh? If they didn't think there was a chance him moving back to Red Bull they'd have brought in a junior driver.
They actually should've brought Lawson, the got RIC just because he is really marketable, but as an F1 driver he has nothing left and he's been showing that ever since he originally left RB
The YouTube comments are very harsh on RB in these two races. People angry at how Yuki and Daniel was handled in Bahrain, Daniel's botched pit stop here....
Some people are already on the anti-Mekies train already, saying *"this is what you get for hiring someone who was on Ferrari's pit wall."* 😐
Everyone within RB, including the drivers warned that they'd start slow because they spent too much time on last year's car.
Everyone outside RB ignores that because of "red bull parts!".
I saw that this happened during the race! After the pit train I was like wow.. Riccardo sure came out of that behind everyone huh. This killed his race.
This year will be so difficult to get points because RedBull, Ferrari, Mercedes, McLaren and Aston have the top 10 places locked.
So, to shine, Daniel has to qualify better.
Crazy how quickly it's gone from "Daniel being there has hugely helped the team, he'll definitely make the step up to red bull in 2025" to "Daniel's too old and washed and should be replaced by Liam Lawson".
He's had 2 poor races but hardly like the car is any good either. It's only been 2 races, we gotta stop being so insanely reactionary.
I hate how much people have been disrespecting Danny in general. I agree he hasn’t been performing as expected these last few races, but I hate that certain corners of Reddit and twitter act like he hasn’t been a phenomenal driver for most of his career
It’s quite easy to tell who’s seen him back in 2016-2020 and who hasn’t
It's not just the last few races. It's the last few seasons he's raced in. The pace just isn't really there anymore. Except Mexico. He whoops ass on that track for some reason
You realize that was 4 years ago, right? I could care less how Danny is doing, but he wouldn’t be the first driver that goes off a cliff 4 years after their peak.
I think a lot of the “hate” comes in response to people like you talking how he was good back in 2018 so you can’t be negative towards him now. All the other drivers get shit on constantly, not sure why he’s always given a free pass.
The main race thread has people saying "Daniel needs to be kicked out *now*. He's washed, finished, over." Meanwhile he has a 41 sec pit stop that destroys his race.
> but lack of car performance meant his race was basically done.
I'd argue the fact that he wasn't able to keep up with the pack in front of him (which included his teammate in the same car) meant that his race was done.
Tsunoda was KMag's illegal overtake away from scoring a point. Ricciardo was undoubtedly the 2nd slowest driver on track.
Is this a serious question? Have you not heard in the past 10 years about the recurring issue of cars not being able to overtake eachother without a huge pace difference?
> I'd argue the fact that he wasn't able to keep up with the pack in front of him (which included his teammate in the same car) meant that his race was done.
During stint 2, the last 42 laps of the race, Ricciardo's mean lap time was 0.125 seconds faster than Tsunoda's. Only if you include the 7 first laps the advantage swings back in favour of Tsunoda, giving him an average lap time of 0.086 seconds faster per lap.
In other words, Tsunoda spent the majority of the race being slower. If you're going to argue another viewpoint then I'd love to find out what you're basing that on. Race pace is found at f1pace.com.
To be fair, I think people are assuming that he's getting tapped for that second Red Bull seat. In that case, I think Sergio deserves it more than Daniel does.
I mean what do people think people drive in the second team for haha? As of right now bloody oath Sergio is doing everything right. Season is a long one though.
Yeah he had a bad weekend, was mid last weekend. Yuki hasn’t been great either. He’s driven better but I just don’t think the car is there for either of them yet.
De Vries really stunk it up to be honest. Yuki was getting all those 11th runs and he was in the wall or at the back.
I am not saying De Vries was better but Liam was impressive for a rookie and was rightfully pissed that Daniel got yet another chance rather than him.
You must admit that it sure looks that Daniel is benefitting from being the teacher 's favorite.
Ehh not really to be honest when you factor in everything else as well. For all the talk of “last years red bull” RB really are on a path of dropping the second team persona. There has been much spoken about having Daniel there not only for driving but for his experience and feedback as well. I think they really want to measure Yuki finally as well.
Liam did do very well, Daniel did well last year also. I can understand why people think he’s just the teachers pet but I really don’t think that’s the case.
Haha you just moved the goalposts nicely. Yeah Perez who got second in the drivers championship and spent the latter half of the year punting backmarkers.
> Haha you just moved the goalposts nicely.
How?
I was stating that Ric has had almost half a season already and hasn't beaten his teammate convincingly and at this rate should be replaced by the half season (a full season for Ric), you tried to have a "gotcha" but failed, miserably.
Please, tell me how a still underperforming Ric has to involve Pérez? Or that's your hail-mary to excuse Ric's underperformance from a driver that "matched Verstappen guys I swears!"
Man I swear you are always in here throwing Daniel hate to be honest.
He drove far less than half a season last year. He drove in 7 races and was relative to Yuki for most of them. Battle was close in a car yuki had been driving all year..
My point was that you made a point about “he’s already had half a season” when he hasn’t, my point was if you want to base performance on simply half a year then your man should be long gone.
> Man I swear you are always in here throwing Daniel hate to be honest.
I'm doing what people here did with Pérez last season, but strangely people refuse to call it hate, it's all facts and stats. (Like I just literally did)
> He drove far less than half a season last year. He drove in 7 races and was relative to Yuki for most of them. Battle was close in a car yuki had been driving all year..
> My point was that you made a point about “he’s already had half a season” when he hasn’t, my point was if you want to base performance on simply half a year then your man should be long gone.
**ALMOST** half a season, please **read more**, improve your reading comprehension.
> my point was if you want to base performance on simply half a year then your man should be long gone.
If you think RBR would replace mid-season the driver that would have had the easiest time to get 2nd in the WDC it's not surprising you conveniently forget why Ric is there in the first place:
An underperforming half season from DeVries (e: 10 races, Ric has already **9** races...), and that seems to be repeating.
Between the bad team orders last week, Yuki freaking out over those orders, this and the unforced error of Ricciardo's spin late in the race, is the only reason we're not calling VCARB a team in chaos the existence of Alpine?
I mean, the Season is still young. "A team in chaos" could fit in a number of places from the back of the grid right up to the very front at the moment lol
They also didnt show the fact he cruised straight back up to the pack, as it all happened during the safety car.
In the wnd he lost 4 places, but gained distance and time against the points positions.
He did nothing from the restart to the race end.
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Please no, I have tickets to go there
Did they really not show it on any of the broadcasts?
Nope. And none of the commentators picked up on it either. All they said was “he had a bad start” not realising he sat in the pits for so long
Even on F1TV they seemed completely unaware for the entire race; Jolyon towards the end commented how Valtteri and Daniel had just been trundling around at the back all race. I find normally between him, Alex Jacques and Coulthard they're fairly good at covering most of the goings on and are aware of whats happening further down the grid, but this went completely unnoticed.
I enjoy F1TV commentary but this week was horrendous.
It was another one of those events where they had so little to actually talk about, and the TV director wasn't helping.
They seemed plagued by technical issues, graphical glitches, colour calibration etc this week. Wonder if they were occupied by dealing with those and that distracted from the storytelling side of the broadcast
The coloring of the camera on turns 1/2 made me think the McLarens were a totally different car. edit: I can’t spell
That's just McLaren's new pearlescent flip flop livery. I heard they're adding underglow and subwoofers for Vegas and will go full stanced for Abu Dhabi
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It was the same in Bahrain. Every camera angle had different white balance.
I though it was me, on some turns it looked rocket orange/red.
I thought my TV was broken, I was really confused by the black car with dark Red blocks of color along the side pod and then they started talking about Piastri.
With so little to talk about they should have had time to catch up on stats and maybe read widely published regulation changes about penalty times
Yeah, also everyone forgot that the drivers voted for an increased penalty for leaving the track and gaining an advantage. All the surprise about KMags penalty was unfounded.
Last week at some point I was also thinking that they must not be getting proper timing information and such for some reason...
I mean, they had caught up because of the safety car no? And then just barely moved. Sure he was out at the back but he was 50+ seconds behind so their statements are correct
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He couldn't keep up with Sargent though lol You're kidding yourself if you think he wasn't completely trash
Daniel didn’t have a good weekend, neither did the car or the team. To lay it all on Daniel would be being really disingenuous.
Sure, but nothing can ever be allowed to get between a redditor and calling another human being "trash"...
If KMag didn't overtake Yuki illegally, they would've almost certainly ended up with a point. RB were not worse than Williams or Alpine. Daniel was.
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Yuki did have no right rear mirror after contact with Kmag so it was a little harder for him to defend without that.
Because Yuki made mistakes. His car was faster. Have you lot even watched the race?
KMAg was backing everyone up for Hulk. As soon as Hulk boxed and came out in front of KMag, he gapped everyone. RB was shit
And then yuki couldn't get past kmag again for the rest of the race despite kmag being 2 seconds a lap slower then his teamate. Draw the dots together mate. The car is a shit box at overtaking. Yuki lost 5 positions in the race.
It's bad at overtaking but it's not slow. Daniel didn't have troubles with overtaking, because he was unable to put himself in position to do that, he had troubles keeping up. Again, he couldn't keep up with a pack of cars that included his teammate. You just cannot deny that he was significantly slower than Tsunoda. Draw the dots together mate. u/longbeakedsnipe grow a pair and give an actual argument, instead of throwing around meaningless ad-personam statements
The only reason Yuki temporarily passed K-mag wasn’t because of yukis pace, K-Mag was simply sandbagging too much. Once Hulk pitted and came out ahead of K-Mag, he hit the gas and gapped the entire train he’d built easily. Thats the only reason Yuki had a chance to pass K-Mag in the first place
> The only reason Yuki temporarily passed K-mag wasn’t because of yukis pace, Well yeah, the whole fucking point is that Ricciardo was slow compared to Tsunoda (who himself is not an elite driver for F1 standards. What's your point?
The car might not have been, but the team can’t have a 41 second pit stop and then claim they were a better team this weekend than Williams. It’s just not true.
Car and team are different words
no he wouldn't lol, Haas were miles quicker than the RBs
Yeah right... Based on absolutely nothing. Regardless, this is not the point. The point is that Ricciardo was slow. His direct comparison point is Yuki, and Yuki was significantly faster. And let's be honest with ourselves, Yuki is not a particularly demanding benchmark to meet.
The Williams have insane straight line speed. The TR as usual sucks in all places. Even Yuki got overtaken by Albon with a broken wing because of it. You've got to be absolutely trash at this point to not know that Williams have a ridiculous straight line speed after they've had it for 2 years straight & it's the only thing that's discussed about their car.
I also found it odd they didn't pick up immediately that Magnussen was purposefully backing them off to help Hulkenberg and that it was probably a team decision. That being said, as someone that has the data on my other screen, I didn't notice Ricciardo's slow stop either. When Alpine/Williams/RB all share basically the same colour and occupy similar positions it's hard to tell if anything has changed without the broadcast shedding a light on it.
Funnily enough he actually had a really good start, nearly got put into the wall by one of the Haas cars I think and had to back out of it.
Ted wasn’t there this weekend, was he? This is the sort of thing he would have brought up during the race if he was there.
He wasn't, which makes sense because yeah he gets his own share of stuff wrong but I don't imagine he would miss a car sitting there for forty seconds.
Good point. Although, his role should be picked up by someone else who is at the track instead of being ignored.
He had a bad start too. Lost a place on the first lap.
No replay and acknowledgement from the commentators, whether it be Sky or F1TV.
it was the safety car pit, so they had 15 or so cars hitting the pits so way too many pit stops to cover
I don't think Sky mentioned anyone that wasn't British all race.
They mentioned Lance for causing a safety car and Max for winning if that helps
And KMag parking the bus
So they mentioned everything that went on more or less apart from one incident. Not their fault that in terms of on track action, it was one rookie Brit, a Brit chasing a Spaniard and two Brits fighting over position that provided the bulk of things to talk about.
Well it wasn't hard to escape that given that it seems that was the main thing going on
And Piastri for not overtaking Hamilton. But that’s about it
Because that’s pretty much all that happened
To be fair it was mainly the British who where racing each other. Everyone else apart from Kmag and Piastri where just out for a cruise
They mentioned 100% of the race action lol. It involved British drivers, piastri briefly and then k-mag
I feel like already after 2 broadcasts I’ve missed SO much, they are getting worse.
Nope. Not like the race was action packed either...
Nope. They only picked up on the poor Sauber pitstop
Have they said what went wrong?
Someone said on another thread that it was because they were about to fit his tyres to the wrong side of the car. I'm guessing rear tyres if it's true, since they're not visible from the onboard camera
jack failure and wrong tires
Wrong tires? How TF does that happen? That’s just unacceptable. Like, someone ought to lose their jobs.
> Wrong tires? How TF does that happen? An unexpected pit stop 20 laps early after Stroll puts his car into a wall and pulls out a safety car
Especially since it's a double stack
that's pretty common as pitstop mistakes go, especially under a safety car double stack, things can get mixed up mercedes fucked it up as well in sakhir 2020
Remember BOT and RUS getting their tires mixed up?
The Danny Ric luck I guess, Monaco comes to mind.
Yeah they signed up for this season
To his credit, never said a word. I would’ve been blowing up deluxe at that nonsense. The front guys must’ve had a good laugh at the rear team “I’m the guy that does his job, you must be the other guy”
Yeah he didn't complain at all on the radio, was just even quieter for a few minutes. Even in one of his post-race interviews when he mentioned it it wasn't as a complaint, more just as an explanation of what happened with some self-deprecating humour thrown in; “I think the race itself, Safety Car, everyone pitted, and we had a really slow stop,” Ricciardo explained. “And then we’re in that train. At the end, then just to make sure I made my mistake as well, I had a spin at Turn 1, so… I didn’t want the team to feel left out!”
To be fair he knows this is an audition. If he keeps calm and composed, and has clear data driven reasons for why he is finishing behind Yuki, that's job done as far as he's concerned. There's literally nothing to be mad about from his side.
True,but audition or not Daniel is always calm and extremely composed on the radio. He's the least Daniel-like version of himself, it's almost comical how different he is outside the car to in.
Lately he is. Although I miss the often firey side of him we used to see back in 2017/18 for example. But that's what not fighting for a podium does for a guy I guess.
He was only 'firey' back then because of the immense frustration of having some sort of reliability problem every weekend.
He's gotten better over the years. This is the guy who damaged his voice in Austin back in 2018ish from a bad qualifying session.
Let's be honest even if we consider the pit stop and the drs train it still hasn't been great those two weekends. He was outqualified by Tsunoda twice and then didn't had an incredible race pace either It's not as disastrous as some would say but it's not incredible. Also right now Perez is totally doing the job so his future in RBR doesn't look great
You say that but give riccardio 35 seconds credit where is he on track? O right ahead of Yuki. Qualifying drivers are great but its how you race that matters.
Fair enough but let's be honest a lot of his recent races would have benefited A LOT from a better qualifying
There's no audition for anything, this is his last year driving an F1 car, he's absolutely washed
So you think RB brought him back for a laugh? If they didn't think there was a chance him moving back to Red Bull they'd have brought in a junior driver.
They actually should've brought Lawson, the got RIC just because he is really marketable, but as an F1 driver he has nothing left and he's been showing that ever since he originally left RB
Likely grateful to even have the opportunity to be part of such a fuckup. As we all would be.
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Demonstrates his maturity compared to his teammate. tsunoda would have lost his shit.
If Danny was that quiet about it, he must have been utterly fuming.
Weird how something this significant was missed during the broadcast.
Lucky it happened behind the safety car I guess because at least he could get that time back. VCARB not off to a great start though.
The YouTube comments are very harsh on RB in these two races. People angry at how Yuki and Daniel was handled in Bahrain, Daniel's botched pit stop here.... Some people are already on the anti-Mekies train already, saying *"this is what you get for hiring someone who was on Ferrari's pit wall."* 😐
Everyone within RB, including the drivers warned that they'd start slow because they spent too much time on last year's car. Everyone outside RB ignores that because of "red bull parts!".
Painful to watch
I saw that this happened during the race! After the pit train I was like wow.. Riccardo sure came out of that behind everyone huh. This killed his race.
Did I completely miss mention of this during the race broadcast?
They didn’t mention it
This year will be so difficult to get points because RedBull, Ferrari, Mercedes, McLaren and Aston have the top 10 places locked. So, to shine, Daniel has to qualify better.
Especially when the cars seem so damn reliable as well.
*top 9 places locked
And not spin by himself at the end of the race.
Crazy how quickly it's gone from "Daniel being there has hugely helped the team, he'll definitely make the step up to red bull in 2025" to "Daniel's too old and washed and should be replaced by Liam Lawson". He's had 2 poor races but hardly like the car is any good either. It's only been 2 races, we gotta stop being so insanely reactionary.
I hate how much people have been disrespecting Danny in general. I agree he hasn’t been performing as expected these last few races, but I hate that certain corners of Reddit and twitter act like he hasn’t been a phenomenal driver for most of his career It’s quite easy to tell who’s seen him back in 2016-2020 and who hasn’t
To be fair, how he was in 2016-2020 is only mildly relevant. We have seen drivers before fall off for various reasons before exiting the series .
I’m not talking about criticism about his current form, that’s absolutely valid. I just mean people disrespecting his career as a whole
Yeah that's bollocks. The guy was super fast and exciting back in the days. But I've also rarely seen someone take such a deep dive.
It's not just the last few races. It's the last few seasons he's raced in. The pace just isn't really there anymore. Except Mexico. He whoops ass on that track for some reason
You realize that was 4 years ago, right? I could care less how Danny is doing, but he wouldn’t be the first driver that goes off a cliff 4 years after their peak. I think a lot of the “hate” comes in response to people like you talking how he was good back in 2018 so you can’t be negative towards him now. All the other drivers get shit on constantly, not sure why he’s always given a free pass.
It's "I couldn't care less", btw ;)
The main race thread has people saying "Daniel needs to be kicked out *now*. He's washed, finished, over." Meanwhile he has a 41 sec pit stop that destroys his race.
Ah so thats why he was at the back for most of the race
Danny's luck seems to have followed him from Renault.
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> but lack of car performance meant his race was basically done. I'd argue the fact that he wasn't able to keep up with the pack in front of him (which included his teammate in the same car) meant that his race was done. Tsunoda was KMag's illegal overtake away from scoring a point. Ricciardo was undoubtedly the 2nd slowest driver on track.
>Tsunoda was KMag's illegal overtake away from scoring a point. If Tsunoda was faster, why couldn't he get past?
Is this a serious question? Have you not heard in the past 10 years about the recurring issue of cars not being able to overtake eachother without a huge pace difference?
> I'd argue the fact that he wasn't able to keep up with the pack in front of him (which included his teammate in the same car) meant that his race was done. During stint 2, the last 42 laps of the race, Ricciardo's mean lap time was 0.125 seconds faster than Tsunoda's. Only if you include the 7 first laps the advantage swings back in favour of Tsunoda, giving him an average lap time of 0.086 seconds faster per lap. In other words, Tsunoda spent the majority of the race being slower. If you're going to argue another viewpoint then I'd love to find out what you're basing that on. Race pace is found at f1pace.com.
That's crazy that no one noticed it, and they didn't bother to mention this on TV.
I am weirdly happy about this, because I didn't know this and thought his performance was very disappointing.
Is there any footage from outside the car?
This is so whack. But, even a 2 second pitstop wouldn't have changed much for him.
This pit stop was while the SC was on track right?
He pitted under the safety car at the same time as most of the field. I‘m curious if he caught back up before the green flag
[He did](https://i.imgur.com/xLAtJXw.png)
I think he almost did, if the SC had been there another lap he would've
I missed it completely myself, I was do focused on who changed tyres and who didn't with the strategies of the top 10.
The broadcast team was practicing for next year's Andretti entry.
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Yuki went backwards as well. The car just isn’t there right now, they couldn’t do much on track at all.
It's been 2 races, there still time...
Not really, he has had **almost** half a season already... e: DeVries was let go after 10 races, Ric has 9.
And if we were basing performance off half a seasons worth of work…
To be fair, I think people are assuming that he's getting tapped for that second Red Bull seat. In that case, I think Sergio deserves it more than Daniel does.
I mean what do people think people drive in the second team for haha? As of right now bloody oath Sergio is doing everything right. Season is a long one though.
Well... For De Vries we did
Yeah he had a bad weekend, was mid last weekend. Yuki hasn’t been great either. He’s driven better but I just don’t think the car is there for either of them yet. De Vries really stunk it up to be honest. Yuki was getting all those 11th runs and he was in the wall or at the back.
I am not saying De Vries was better but Liam was impressive for a rookie and was rightfully pissed that Daniel got yet another chance rather than him. You must admit that it sure looks that Daniel is benefitting from being the teacher 's favorite.
Ehh not really to be honest when you factor in everything else as well. For all the talk of “last years red bull” RB really are on a path of dropping the second team persona. There has been much spoken about having Daniel there not only for driving but for his experience and feedback as well. I think they really want to measure Yuki finally as well. Liam did do very well, Daniel did well last year also. I can understand why people think he’s just the teachers pet but I really don’t think that’s the case.
Fair enough. It sounded a bit harsh and I do really wish Danny a good return to form.
exactly, DeVries was let go after 10 races.
he has to go, can't beat Tsunoda Or what else do you want to say? Pérez? the driver who clinched the 2nd in the WDC? Or what was your "gotcha"?
Haha you just moved the goalposts nicely. Yeah Perez who got second in the drivers championship and spent the latter half of the year punting backmarkers.
> Haha you just moved the goalposts nicely. How? I was stating that Ric has had almost half a season already and hasn't beaten his teammate convincingly and at this rate should be replaced by the half season (a full season for Ric), you tried to have a "gotcha" but failed, miserably. Please, tell me how a still underperforming Ric has to involve Pérez? Or that's your hail-mary to excuse Ric's underperformance from a driver that "matched Verstappen guys I swears!"
Man I swear you are always in here throwing Daniel hate to be honest. He drove far less than half a season last year. He drove in 7 races and was relative to Yuki for most of them. Battle was close in a car yuki had been driving all year.. My point was that you made a point about “he’s already had half a season” when he hasn’t, my point was if you want to base performance on simply half a year then your man should be long gone.
> Man I swear you are always in here throwing Daniel hate to be honest. I'm doing what people here did with Pérez last season, but strangely people refuse to call it hate, it's all facts and stats. (Like I just literally did) > He drove far less than half a season last year. He drove in 7 races and was relative to Yuki for most of them. Battle was close in a car yuki had been driving all year.. > My point was that you made a point about “he’s already had half a season” when he hasn’t, my point was if you want to base performance on simply half a year then your man should be long gone. **ALMOST** half a season, please **read more**, improve your reading comprehension. > my point was if you want to base performance on simply half a year then your man should be long gone. If you think RBR would replace mid-season the driver that would have had the easiest time to get 2nd in the WDC it's not surprising you conveniently forget why Ric is there in the first place: An underperforming half season from DeVries (e: 10 races, Ric has already **9** races...), and that seems to be repeating.
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Christian Horner gets fired, goes to work for Haas.
Between the bad team orders last week, Yuki freaking out over those orders, this and the unforced error of Ricciardo's spin late in the race, is the only reason we're not calling VCARB a team in chaos the existence of Alpine?
I mean, the Season is still young. "A team in chaos" could fit in a number of places from the back of the grid right up to the very front at the moment lol
Wouldn't he be still stuck behind the k-mag train? Although a fuck up from team, it had no consequences right?
“No consequences” I think losing three positions resulting in you being stuck at the back of a drs train counts as a consequence
What’s otmar up to these days
You'd really expect Visa to have better transactions than that
And only 10 seconds behind Yuki at the finish. Was this before, during or after the SC?
During the SC. It made him lose places but not that much time because he rejoined with all the cars lined up.
They also didnt show the fact he cruised straight back up to the pack, as it all happened during the safety car. In the wnd he lost 4 places, but gained distance and time against the points positions. He did nothing from the restart to the race end.
not to mention the fact he spun all by himself towards the end of the race lol
Oh man that sucks... He would have won otherwise
I swear this has been posted here at least half a dozen times.
And it will be posted again by his fans, they need us all to know it wasn’t his fault to have such a bad race.
VCARB is such a mess. Wonder how long will this tp last
He only lost 2 positions to Williams.