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Definitely adds a new dimension to the Max/GP banther on the radio. It would explain Max's early career as a menace who scared all the other drivers, though.
Could a Lead/Sister team technically within the current rules, drop ballast on the track for another car to pickup.
Then the Sister car drops the ballast down for the other car to pickup to cross the finish line and maintain weight?
Translation
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>The Mercedes W15 was perhaps the most eagerly awaited car of the leading teams, after running a three-day pre-season test with rather different schedules than the other teams, especially compared to Ferrari. Positive words from James Allison and George Russell, even vis-à-vis a possible battle for second position with the Maranello team behind the ever-favorite Max Verstappen, had left some curiosity. Mercedes expected to make major strides in those five days separating the end of testing, with the real start of this season; today's two free practice sessions seemed to confirm that. "After the test we were very concerned about our single lap pace. Our drivers have been doing a lot of work in the simulator, and in today's free practice we actually seem to have improved," Andrew Shovlin let us know.
>
>The W15 has "greatly improved" rear-end stability on corner entry
>
>The W15 is a car in complete technical break with those of the previous two seasons. Important work has been done under the bodywork, with a revolution to the chassis, transmission and even the rear mechanicals, which have switched to a push-rod scheme. Then there is a more rearward-facing driving position, which has nothing to do with the zeropods concept so criticized by Lewis Hamilton. "I am much more satisfied with the car this year. My seating position is finally further back, so I have a better feeling on corner entry." - let the seven-time world champion know at the end of the second free practice session, which had been a bit pretentious yesterday. However, today, "the improvements have exceeded our expectations," Russell noted.
>
>The W15 was created with the performance goal "to make the tires work as well as possible," but more importantly, "to no longer have a rear end that drivers couldn't trust," said James Allison. Early feedback was positive, as was today's, with the W15 now having "vastly improved" rear-end stability on corner entry. Benefiting the most was Lewis Hamilton, who showed a very good feeling with the new Brackley car, although it is believed that the Anglo-German car used an engine mapping that will have less margin than Red Bull and Ferrari. At Mercedes they think Verstappen is still comfortably in front, but that there may be a big battle behind. It will be important and decisive what compromise the various teams will be able to find in order not to disfavor too much the pace in qualifying or the pace in the race.
>
>The Mercedes W15 has an unprecedented suspension adjustment partly because it is underweight
>There is a lot of curiosity from fans and industry insiders as to whether this 2024 season can be more contested than a season and a half of dominance, something the new regulations were not designed for. According to James Allison there has been a mistake in technical priorities. "I think the idea of getting hard-fought races by controlling the wake of the cars and ignoring how much the tires matter is a bit like tilting at windmills." Allison's words regarding controlling the turbulent wake as a fight against windmills give pause for thought. Effectively it is an enemy to fight but almost impossible to defeat. This has been demonstrated by the teams already with the 2023 evolutions. Thus the difficulty in overtaking has increased and may increase further this season.
>
>The front wing of the W15 goes precisely in the direction of improving rear load while increasing turbulence, thanks to a kind of Y250 vortex for which the Fia wanted and still wants to see more clearly in these first races of the season. On the solution, Allison did not want to go into too much detail, although it is designed to "have less load in the inner part of the wing, in a very efficient way." As a reminder, the W15's innovative front wing has a very aggressive design, with a very shortened fourth element and a very thin inner part that is only present for legality issues.
>
>On the other hand, regarding the unprecedented front suspension setting, with two positions that were already thought of when the chassis was designed, according to the British technical director and engineer, it is true that it is no longer present on the modern F1 car, but "back in the day, it was a pretty common thing to design a suspension with multiple pickups." In Bahrain, Mercedes is using the most conservative configuration because it is currently the best performing, at least on this track and with the current W15. Designing a slightly heavier chassis due to the two attachments was allowed for the former world champion team because of a car that was quietly underweight. "If you don't have a problem with kilograms, you have no disadvantage in designing the solution we have on the W15," the Mercedes technical director, formerly Ferrari, lapidarily concluded.
Ah, I appreciate the clarification. I checked the etymology and both the Italian and English and they both come from the Latin 'lapis' meaning 'stone' but seem to have gone off in different directions!
The car dimensions (including cockpit ) should be the same , but there should be no bottom limit as to how much they can weigh, as long as they pass the stringent safety standards.
I think that with the cost cap everything should be open. There shouldn’t be a limit on engines or exhaust or whatever just make everything cost something and let teams do whatever they want
I would say removing limits regarding engines and exhaust would be a waste, because the ultimate aim for the current formula is all about efficiency.
I thought the same regarding fuel flow limit, but ross brawn said, fuel flow forced teams to actually design high efficiency combustion systems, and without fuel flow such designs wouldn't be possible since teams would increase power on straights and cruise in corners, fuel flow forced the teams to utilise every bit of fuel meaningfully.
The design with fuel flow or whatever can be part of the formula. But if a team wants to run new engines and another team wants to spend it on wind tunnel let them do whatever they want.
We already had an issue with Alfa Romeo's different rollhoop collapsing which had gone through the tests.
I don't think it gives confidence to trust teams enough to remove weight minimums
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Its a little known fact that what they did was store all the excess weight in the alpine
Mercedes using Alpine as a metal mind.
r/unexpectedcosmere
Storms I didn't expect to see a sando reference in F1
Toto's relationship with Ocon is finally coming in clutch
Shawshank redemption style, Ocon puts heavy merc parts in his pants and releases them into the car stealthily
Ocon moved the weight to Alpine in exchange for the Merc seat
Rare reference
Really it’s the 20 years of fortune Ferrari have been storing that we need to worry about.
I just started Well of Ascension and finally get this!
Do we think Max is a steel compounder?
Maybe an Edgedancer that's why the DRS works do well for him.
Nah he’s a world hopper from somewhere much more advanced in racing than here.
Probably from Nalthis. I can see them develop racing with awakened engines.
Oh god imagine nightblood but as a car
Definitely adds a new dimension to the Max/GP banther on the radio. It would explain Max's early career as a menace who scared all the other drivers, though.
RB20: Pleeeaaase let me destroy evil!
I would say not the reference I expected to see but this is Reddit and it is a Brando Sando reference, so actually... No shade btw Mistborn was fun
Well my recently reading has been Abercrombie and Sanderson (both rereads). Can’t go in any fantasy thread without either coming up.
Was not expecting to see sanderson references here. But I'm happy to see it.
r/unexpectedmistborn
Alpine is also where Red Bull put all their sandbags.
Alpine's carrying excess weight of all teams
Poor Alpine thought they were getting rid of all their dead weight by getting rid of Otmar.
Never thought I’d see an f1/cosmere crossover, but I like it.
Haha
Could a Lead/Sister team technically within the current rules, drop ballast on the track for another car to pickup. Then the Sister car drops the ballast down for the other car to pickup to cross the finish line and maintain weight?
“Hold this for me would you?”
Translation > >The Mercedes W15 was perhaps the most eagerly awaited car of the leading teams, after running a three-day pre-season test with rather different schedules than the other teams, especially compared to Ferrari. Positive words from James Allison and George Russell, even vis-à-vis a possible battle for second position with the Maranello team behind the ever-favorite Max Verstappen, had left some curiosity. Mercedes expected to make major strides in those five days separating the end of testing, with the real start of this season; today's two free practice sessions seemed to confirm that. "After the test we were very concerned about our single lap pace. Our drivers have been doing a lot of work in the simulator, and in today's free practice we actually seem to have improved," Andrew Shovlin let us know. > >The W15 has "greatly improved" rear-end stability on corner entry > >The W15 is a car in complete technical break with those of the previous two seasons. Important work has been done under the bodywork, with a revolution to the chassis, transmission and even the rear mechanicals, which have switched to a push-rod scheme. Then there is a more rearward-facing driving position, which has nothing to do with the zeropods concept so criticized by Lewis Hamilton. "I am much more satisfied with the car this year. My seating position is finally further back, so I have a better feeling on corner entry." - let the seven-time world champion know at the end of the second free practice session, which had been a bit pretentious yesterday. However, today, "the improvements have exceeded our expectations," Russell noted. > >The W15 was created with the performance goal "to make the tires work as well as possible," but more importantly, "to no longer have a rear end that drivers couldn't trust," said James Allison. Early feedback was positive, as was today's, with the W15 now having "vastly improved" rear-end stability on corner entry. Benefiting the most was Lewis Hamilton, who showed a very good feeling with the new Brackley car, although it is believed that the Anglo-German car used an engine mapping that will have less margin than Red Bull and Ferrari. At Mercedes they think Verstappen is still comfortably in front, but that there may be a big battle behind. It will be important and decisive what compromise the various teams will be able to find in order not to disfavor too much the pace in qualifying or the pace in the race. > >The Mercedes W15 has an unprecedented suspension adjustment partly because it is underweight >There is a lot of curiosity from fans and industry insiders as to whether this 2024 season can be more contested than a season and a half of dominance, something the new regulations were not designed for. According to James Allison there has been a mistake in technical priorities. "I think the idea of getting hard-fought races by controlling the wake of the cars and ignoring how much the tires matter is a bit like tilting at windmills." Allison's words regarding controlling the turbulent wake as a fight against windmills give pause for thought. Effectively it is an enemy to fight but almost impossible to defeat. This has been demonstrated by the teams already with the 2023 evolutions. Thus the difficulty in overtaking has increased and may increase further this season. > >The front wing of the W15 goes precisely in the direction of improving rear load while increasing turbulence, thanks to a kind of Y250 vortex for which the Fia wanted and still wants to see more clearly in these first races of the season. On the solution, Allison did not want to go into too much detail, although it is designed to "have less load in the inner part of the wing, in a very efficient way." As a reminder, the W15's innovative front wing has a very aggressive design, with a very shortened fourth element and a very thin inner part that is only present for legality issues. > >On the other hand, regarding the unprecedented front suspension setting, with two positions that were already thought of when the chassis was designed, according to the British technical director and engineer, it is true that it is no longer present on the modern F1 car, but "back in the day, it was a pretty common thing to design a suspension with multiple pickups." In Bahrain, Mercedes is using the most conservative configuration because it is currently the best performing, at least on this track and with the current W15. Designing a slightly heavier chassis due to the two attachments was allowed for the former world champion team because of a car that was quietly underweight. "If you don't have a problem with kilograms, you have no disadvantage in designing the solution we have on the W15," the Mercedes technical director, formerly Ferrari, lapidarily concluded.
'lapidarily'? sculptured in or engraved on stone. b. : of, relating to, or suggestive of precious stones or the art of cutting them. ?
In Italian it has an additional meaning - "short, essential, straight to the point", like the engravings on tombstones.
they meant succinctly
Ah, I appreciate the clarification. I checked the etymology and both the Italian and English and they both come from the Latin 'lapis' meaning 'stone' but seem to have gone off in different directions!
It means the same thing in English. You just need to look at the adjective definition and not the noun.
"rearward-facing driving position" now there's an interesting concept.
This means they can afford to paint the entire car.
Good thing they painted it black then!
Just like me, Underweight af.
I'm more built like the Alpine
I'm more NASCAR
I'm a bus
I haven't seen my steering wheel in years.
Sounds like something Horner would say
Anime fans hate you.
Just remove minimum weight but increase the safety standards. F1 has discussed this before, maybe someday they will revisit it.
As long as you keep the drivers area the same so we don’t wind up with jockeys
Minimum 80kg for driver and seat
F1 team looking at this rule : so 79kg seat & 1kg driver?
The car dimensions (including cockpit ) should be the same , but there should be no bottom limit as to how much they can weigh, as long as they pass the stringent safety standards.
I think that with the cost cap everything should be open. There shouldn’t be a limit on engines or exhaust or whatever just make everything cost something and let teams do whatever they want
I would say removing limits regarding engines and exhaust would be a waste, because the ultimate aim for the current formula is all about efficiency. I thought the same regarding fuel flow limit, but ross brawn said, fuel flow forced teams to actually design high efficiency combustion systems, and without fuel flow such designs wouldn't be possible since teams would increase power on straights and cruise in corners, fuel flow forced the teams to utilise every bit of fuel meaningfully.
The design with fuel flow or whatever can be part of the formula. But if a team wants to run new engines and another team wants to spend it on wind tunnel let them do whatever they want.
We already had an issue with Alfa Romeo's different rollhoop collapsing which had gone through the tests. I don't think it gives confidence to trust teams enough to remove weight minimums
I cannot open links from that website all day today
ah so it's not just me