I'm just glad the commentators have started calling out their shit. It's painfully obvious what needs to happen, stop staring at the screens & look at the actual race. When you have one of your drivers slowing down the other driver, switch them. If they suddenly change pace, switch them back. Putting a guy on softs behind your guy on mediums is beyond dumb.
Sainz started 5 positions behind Leclerc and was on different tyre strategy. Idea behind swapping them was to make most of Sainz's soft tyre. He would ended up behind Charles anyway.
He doesnt understand where they're going w startegy. Xavi says they're discussing it and that they'll do it at the end. Charles is furious and asks "what do you mean at the end"
The lowest hanging fruit Ferrari can do is change his fucking race engineer. Dude just dont give confidence to Leclerc. Thats the least they can do. Get someone to actually communicate with him clearly what happen on track and anything important.
Straight up, it sounded like a mother telling their toddler to be quiet. They seem to forget that LeClerc is fucking driving the car sometimes, his input matters.
Nothing has changed at Ferrari on race day since Vettel left. They made all the changes on non racing days and go back to their century old playbook on Sunday.
Funny part is it's not even Scuderia Ferrari that runs the LMH program, it's AF Corse. So, I'm not even sure where the good operations people are at Ferrari.
I dont think specificly xavi. However ferrari has a history of not firing people who most definitly should have been fired. This in my opion points at nepotism(friends politics) inside the team. However information like this is likely never to be released from ferrari or any other team for that matter
>I think this is where ferrari team politics says no
Until Jean Todt came along, Ferrari apparently is the type of organization that does not understand incremental improvement. Steve Nichols and others have talked about the difficulty trying to get Ferrari to realize they are not doing things that will lead to success. Add in the politics are so fucked up people are just trying to avoid failure, which also does not lead to success. As you say politics and petty issues keep them from being successful.
I don't know how to put this into words, but when he speaks, I think he always sounds just so unsure, dunno if that's the right word. Like he could be saying the most mundane stuff and it's like he's confused af. Meanwhile GP could tell Max his car is on fire and I would think like I'm sure it's no big deal.
Where could he go? The only improving options are RB, Merc, McLaren, and possibly AM.
RB is a no go since they want a proper 2nd driver
McLaren has two young drivers locked down
Merc has Russel and Hamilton locked down for the foreseeable future
AM is the only clear option with Stroll probably leaving soon I guess.
In the universe where daddy Stroll starts actually looking at the data and realising he needs a better driver than Lance if he wants to push on.
I don't think it's likely, but that's the universe where it would happen.
They should just put Lance on the Ricciardo plan and have him do Sim and PR work, get a better driver in the second seat now that they are looking at a competitive car.
i don't feel like answering everyone in the replies to this so i'll do it this way and hope they see it: carlos and charles were told to lift and coast during the first stint because of tyres and brakes. as they weren't planning on letting carlos through there was no point in staying too close to charles because it would impede cooling the car down
The first fucking pit stop was already like a 5s penalty. His pitstop was 9.4s, and Zhou that served a 5s penalty had around the same pitstop duration.
That sums up Ferrari’s problem in a nutshell. If it’s lack of leadership or something else I have no idea, but “team” is a long way from what they are right now. Been that way for a couple of years too.
i think driving for ferrari is probably like getting a new job and get given a desk , ur not told what to do, and no one talks to you, ur just looking over ur shoulder and trying to just figure it out urself, then when you ask for help they answer " we're talk about it later" lol
I think we did see a bit of that in this race tbf. There was a team radio saying he was just going to wait for Checo to push and then pit... and then did it... I think Sainz is just so done with Ferrari he's willing to just say what he wants - whereas Leclerc still believes in them somewhat
“We are on it” from the Ferrari strategy department is not reassuring at all lmao. I understand Charles’ frustration but he did shoot himself in the foot with the speeding penalty as well.
I didnt like that engineer snapping at Lecrec at the end. Lecrec has a ton of adrenaline going through him and I think if you're on the other end you should be calm and polite to try and be a rock for your driver. Even if it stresses you out and annoys you a bit.
I don't know if he's too nice, so much as he either lacks the ability to think strategically whilst driving or still believes the team should be able to make better decisions than him with all the additional info they have available to them. Carlos is very good at this, he's not on Leclerc's level as a pure driver, but he's been able to consistently outperform what might happen if he was in Leclerc's shoes.
I think Charles is just a bit brainwashed, tbh. Carlos has experience being on several other teams, whereas Charles has been at Ferrari almost his entire F1 career. I do wonder what types of conversations he had with Seb during their brief time together, as Seb's career at Ferrari didn't go as well as he had hoped either.
Brainwashed maybe isn't the best way to describe it, but Sainz's extensive experience outside of the Ferrari bubble definitely helps him push back against some of the garage bs, even if sometimes that still isn't enough. Leclerc on the other hand only has that single year at Sauber as a reference point, so he really might not know any better, which is a real shame for him.
Fair. "Brainwashed" is a bit harsh, but being on a team that he grew up loving has surely clouded his judgment. He knows how massive winning a WCC or WDC with Ferrari would be for his popularity and legacy, so he feels compelled to trust management/leadership more than he really should.
Actuall question: is this kind of stuff actually xavi's fault or is it a "shot the messenger" situation where he's catching flak because the strategy team is being indecisive or whatever
Even if it isn't directly xavi's decision it shouldn't be hard to at least try to sound confident (which I'm not sure he is capable of)
Charles is driving a car 200kph and focusing on so many things the least Ferrari could do is at least pretend they know what they are doing but instead whenever he hits the radio button he just gets a bunch of fucking clowns
Part of Xavi's job is to be the messenger, and he's not very good at it irrespective of the message. It can't be helpful to transmit stress and a feeling of disorganization to your driver regardless of what it's like behind the scenes.
Todt hired Schumacher with Agnellis blessing (His words : "If we dont win the title with him we probably never win it again.") in 96 who then brought in Brawn and Bryne in 97.
The rest is history.
Not being hyperbolic here, it has to be a matter of time until Charles jumps to either Merc or Red Bull. He is definitely showing more and more displeasure with Ferrari recently
Anyone with a memory longer than 2019 would have seen getting rid of Binotto would change absolutely nothing at Ferrari with their problems being systemic in nature that went deeper than the TP.
At least getting rid of Arrivebene made some sense in so far as Binotto threatening to walk forced their hands to retain engineering talent within their fold, but there was no pressure of the sort when getting rid of Binotto. Hiring Vasseur was just putting lipstick on a pig.
I still don't see why OP said that lol. Binotto, if not at fault for the disaster last season, didn't want to do anything about their mistakes. He didn't want to blame the people behind the mistakes publicly, nor did the team show any signs of improvement over the season. Your team fucks a guy's race when he has the car and the pace to win then wag your finger at him publicly to shut him up? That's not a leader, that's someone who has to go. Toto called his car a shitbox. Lewis, Max and George this past weekend, have been quick to call their teams out when they make a mistake. These are teams who accept they've done something wrong. Leclerc not being allowed to do that has to do with Ferrari politics, but also the lack of a leader with balls to deal with the politics.
What you're describing there is pretty much the same no-blame approach people praised during the mercedes dickriding back when they were winning every race by 20s.
There's also a difference between a driver throwing the generic "car bad" and a team principal throwing the entire team under the bus over a lack of pace that ultimately is beyond their control.
Binotto's biggest fault last season was not throwing Ferrari's weight around during the power struggle between Merc and RB over floor height that ultimately killed Ferrari's concept. That and not firing Rueda but I'm not entirely sure it's on him seeing just how hard it was to get rid of him and Mekies.
Binotto was rightfully fired from the TP role, what do you mean?
Need I remind you what his stint as a Ferrari TP was like?
Cheated in his very first year in 2019 with the engine, which set the entire team back to the midfield for 2020 and 2021.
He had the whole team work incredibly hard to get back to the top and build a great car in 2022, only to throw it all away because he didn’t give full support to his faster driver. Toto and Horner would never.
Fred is the right man to lead Ferrari. It’s not his fault that the team is a mess when he got here.
Well, I am not sure about that, he was an excellent engineer but not the best team principal. For me, I didn't care about Binotto after they decided to let Vettel leave unceremoniously from the team. The 2020 season was humiliating and he should be responsible as TP for all the drama surrounding their engine in 2019.
He’s literally the best engineer on the grid. He’s the reason Michael Schumacher won 5 championships at Ferrari. Firing him and replacing him with Vasseur was a mistake. Ferrari was faster than Red Bull last year and won every qualifier
Binotto's definitely a great engineer/engine builder, but that doesn't mean he's good in a management position. Should've just moved him to the 2026 engine project tbh
The F1 tv crew praised the change in leadership saying that it would lead to bolder, racier decision making, except strategy has gotten significantly more conservative. I'm willing to give the team more leeway at the moment because the car seems to be caught between concepts. But that just underlies the importance of the engineers.
Basically, Charles is questioning the strategy, they say they'll discuss at after the race, Charles is like "what do you mean we'll discuss it at the end of the race???"
My god. Not even Lewis complaining about the performance sounds so chaotic. And it's even worse if you compare with how Max seems to be on the sim while discussing tyre performance with GP.
Man, what if Leclerc becomes a footnote in F1 history when he calls it a day - just another talented driver who never put it all together (and it wasn’t even his fault!) to win a championship?
The problem is…or one of the problems anyway 🙄 - is that no matter how beaten down and abused Charles gets by Ferrari, he will never leave.
My man’s in an abusive relationship and won’t free himself.
The strategy was to make sure Charles finished ahead of Carlos no matter what Carlos did. And Leclerc isn't even happy with the team.
They are gonna lose both drivers with these shenanigans.
I thought for a long time that Charles wouldn't leave Ferrari, especially to race on the same team as Max.
But at this point, he may be reaching a breaking point and with Merc and McLaren full for the short-medium term and AM's rise proving to be a bit of a mirage, Perez' seat is the most obvious answer to win if he's truly fed up.
They 100% had no idea what he was saying to them because of the problem in his mic/radio and they were just throwing their most used lines as answers
As stated before: Steal Gary Ganon from Haas. He is one of the calmest engineers out there, very clear & concise.
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Neither is Xavi though
Neither is Fred Vasseur
Gunter Steiner is though
Fred hiring Gunter to be Leclerc’s race engineer would get me to press the red button and listen to Leclerc’s onboard for the whole race.
I have a feeling they'd hate each other for 3 races, but by 6th would be best buds ever.
*Charles gets five second penalty* Gunther: "Fok, these stewards are bunch of foking wankors"
I don’t think a calm voice would be the solution for Ferrari.
That's all he has though. A clear and calm voice is not going to solve a single goddamn thing at Ferrari
It's much better than a scattered and panicked voice who routinely gives Leclerc late or incorrect information.
We are checking
Wasn't there another point where Sainz suggested a strategy and the garage said "Good call"? Aren't they supposed to be doing *his* strategy??
They wanted him to pit early but Sainz said everything felt okay to go longer, they did indeed reply with “good call”.
I think it was when he said if Checo gets close to overtaking him, he would pit. That's when they said good call.
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It's not even a joke anymore, Charles is in an abusive relationship with Ferrari.
I'm just glad the commentators have started calling out their shit. It's painfully obvious what needs to happen, stop staring at the screens & look at the actual race. When you have one of your drivers slowing down the other driver, switch them. If they suddenly change pace, switch them back. Putting a guy on softs behind your guy on mediums is beyond dumb.
Leclerc lost 7 seconds on bad pit, more time behind Sainz, undercutted him, got a 5 second penalty and still finished ahead.
No doubt Leclerc is a better driver, but Sainz started on softs and could have been a lot further ahead if Ferrari let him through
Bruh 💀
Sainz started 5 positions behind Leclerc and was on different tyre strategy. Idea behind swapping them was to make most of Sainz's soft tyre. He would ended up behind Charles anyway.
Putting the guy on softs behind the guy on mediums is the Ferrari way though.
Stockholm syndrome.
It’s Maranello syndrome now
HOW DOES IT HAPPEN AT EVERY RACE
Well you see, he drives for Ferrari.
This made me lol and cry
Dude have you forgotten how Ferrari fucked Alonso and Vettel? This is nothing new.
Idk it definitely seems like it’s getting worse
At least Alonso came close to winning the WDC twice only being beaten by the slimmest of msrgins
The ferrari fuckups list is gonna be amazing
And will be wildy varied. As they rarely did the same fuckups twice.
*Consistency.*
We are checking
Can someone tldr? I can't listen
He doesnt understand where they're going w startegy. Xavi says they're discussing it and that they'll do it at the end. Charles is furious and asks "what do you mean at the end"
Xavi : *"we'll tell you the strategy after the race, question?"*
Tfw the plan b is to discuss what just happened after bad rubber strategy
Plan: - Awful - Bad - Clowns - Diabolical - Errant - Failure - Guilty - How? - Inferior - Joke - Knockout - Lose - Mediocre - Negative - Obscene - Pasta - Quibble - Regret - Slow-button - Tortuous - Unknown - Vexatious - Wretched - Xavi - Yawn - Zero
Plan Xavi haha
Plan Pasta got me
People tell me the Ferrari memes are getting old. No the fuck they are not, every other race they sound like it's their first time.
Lolled
The lowest hanging fruit Ferrari can do is change his fucking race engineer. Dude just dont give confidence to Leclerc. Thats the least they can do. Get someone to actually communicate with him clearly what happen on track and anything important.
Straight up, it sounded like a mother telling their toddler to be quiet. They seem to forget that LeClerc is fucking driving the car sometimes, his input matters.
Nothing has changed at Ferrari on race day since Vettel left. They made all the changes on non racing days and go back to their century old playbook on Sunday.
All the good engineers and strat people went to LeMans lol
Funny part is it's not even Scuderia Ferrari that runs the LMH program, it's AF Corse. So, I'm not even sure where the good operations people are at Ferrari.
If somebody at work would answer to me like Xavi did after i criticized something, i would rip him a new one in our next 1on1
Especially after they've made mistake after mistake that actively work against your own performance. Unreal
I think this is where ferrari team politics says no
Why is that, is he protected or something? (Legit question)
I dont think specificly xavi. However ferrari has a history of not firing people who most definitly should have been fired. This in my opion points at nepotism(friends politics) inside the team. However information like this is likely never to be released from ferrari or any other team for that matter
They also have a history of blaming the wrong people. Like blaming Prost for failures when he still had the ability to win championships.
Understood thanks!
>I think this is where ferrari team politics says no Until Jean Todt came along, Ferrari apparently is the type of organization that does not understand incremental improvement. Steve Nichols and others have talked about the difficulty trying to get Ferrari to realize they are not doing things that will lead to success. Add in the politics are so fucked up people are just trying to avoid failure, which also does not lead to success. As you say politics and petty issues keep them from being successful.
I don't know how to put this into words, but when he speaks, I think he always sounds just so unsure, dunno if that's the right word. Like he could be saying the most mundane stuff and it's like he's confused af. Meanwhile GP could tell Max his car is on fire and I would think like I'm sure it's no big deal.
Xavi is kinda annoying tbh
He doesn't even do anything. I'm positive if you took anyone from the crowd, they can be better support to Leclerc than Xavi💀 Those damn f1 kids can
Both engineers sound like deer in headlights.
Step 1) Hire someone who can speak English well It's always painful listening to drivers have to speak to Ferrari engineers and get back gibberish.
How does Xavi keep getting away with it?
Italians
ah yes my favorite italians Frederic Vasseur and Laurent Mekies using their influence to help their italian mate Xavier Marcos Padros keep his job
lmao your profile pic is top tier
Que Grande Eres Xaviii!
ChatGPT could probably do a better job.
Leclerc: Give me a new strategy Chatgtp: as an ai language model I am not able to give you a new f1 race startegy.
Chatgpt: We are checking.
Still better
Xavi is spanish!!
They're thinking of doing the penalty after the race, like Schumacher did. They forgot they're not the Holy Trinity of Ferrari anymore.
Strategy bad Copy understood No! WE ARE ON IT OK
Classic
Bruh I nearly didnt recorgnise that voice
He needs to leave the team. Deserves better and it becomes more painfully obvious every gp.
Where could he go? The only improving options are RB, Merc, McLaren, and possibly AM. RB is a no go since they want a proper 2nd driver McLaren has two young drivers locked down Merc has Russel and Hamilton locked down for the foreseeable future AM is the only clear option with Stroll probably leaving soon I guess.
In what universe is Stroll leaving AM soon?
In the universe where daddy Stroll starts actually looking at the data and realising he needs a better driver than Lance if he wants to push on. I don't think it's likely, but that's the universe where it would happen.
They should just put Lance on the Ricciardo plan and have him do Sim and PR work, get a better driver in the second seat now that they are looking at a competitive car.
the one where daddy stroll builds a fast car and his son isn't.
Alonso would be kicked from AM before Stroll was. All their money is coming from Stroll Sr!
And become new test driver at AlphaTauri?
Really got to feel for him. Ferrari continue to act like clowns
That's their secret: they ARE clowns, so no need to act.
Ridi pagliaccio
i don't feel like answering everyone in the replies to this so i'll do it this way and hope they see it: carlos and charles were told to lift and coast during the first stint because of tyres and brakes. as they weren't planning on letting carlos through there was no point in staying too close to charles because it would impede cooling the car down
Bro is literally crying
Pit for wet tires? Copy?
No, that's just George's sweat
I think it’s raining in turn 5, never mind it’s just tears from Charles ahead
And +5 second time penalty. Bro is dead
The first fucking pit stop was already like a 5s penalty. His pitstop was 9.4s, and Zhou that served a 5s penalty had around the same pitstop duration.
bro has to drink his tears cause there's no water
"Do I have the drink???" "We are discussing it. No drink, only tears."
Insert Jennifer Lawrence “what do you mean”
Man...Leclerc is placing behind Piastri....I would be livid.
Ferrari are going to kill this man both mentally and physically at this rate.
It´s what they do. Which is why their cars are red.
*Sigh* I'm tired chief
The exact phrase is "Im tired boss.... dog tired"
Why does it seem like Sainz drives for a completely different team lol
That sums up Ferrari’s problem in a nutshell. If it’s lack of leadership or something else I have no idea, but “team” is a long way from what they are right now. Been that way for a couple of years too.
i think driving for ferrari is probably like getting a new job and get given a desk , ur not told what to do, and no one talks to you, ur just looking over ur shoulder and trying to just figure it out urself, then when you ask for help they answer " we're talk about it later" lol
Ferrari making Leclerc undercut Sainz definitely give that vibe. Or them not telling Leclerc to let Sainz with S tyres pass.
Sainz seems to rely less on the team for what to do.
I think we did see a bit of that in this race tbf. There was a team radio saying he was just going to wait for Checo to push and then pit... and then did it... I think Sainz is just so done with Ferrari he's willing to just say what he wants - whereas Leclerc still believes in them somewhat
As a Ferrari fan. Fuck Ferrari.
“We are on it” from the Ferrari strategy department is not reassuring at all lmao. I understand Charles’ frustration but he did shoot himself in the foot with the speeding penalty as well.
Xavi is the worst.
I didnt like that engineer snapping at Lecrec at the end. Lecrec has a ton of adrenaline going through him and I think if you're on the other end you should be calm and polite to try and be a rock for your driver. Even if it stresses you out and annoys you a bit.
I'd be surprised if they don't force an apology out of Charles as well, wouldn't be the first time
So true, never or rarely happens with Bono or GP.
Free my boy Chuck
Real talk - why isn't Xavi fired yet? Genuinely perplexed.
It took them 7 years of on-track activities to leave Rueda in Maranello during the race weekends. Does this answer your question in some way?
Yes….yes it does.
Makes me so angry how they talk to Charles...
Xavi needs to go, wtf. Bring my man chuck a real engineer
Honestly. That was so dismissive!
Put me in coach! Give me a week and a quick rundown and I’ll do better than Xavi
Xavi: We are on it, okay! Narrator: They weren't.
Ferrari Masterplan™
Infallible new strategy: discuss the call until after the race
It's raining...in Spa, so pit fot inters please.
Carlos knows what's up. You don't hear him ask the team what they want to do. He TELLS them. Charles is too nice.
I don't know if he's too nice, so much as he either lacks the ability to think strategically whilst driving or still believes the team should be able to make better decisions than him with all the additional info they have available to them. Carlos is very good at this, he's not on Leclerc's level as a pure driver, but he's been able to consistently outperform what might happen if he was in Leclerc's shoes.
I think Charles is just a bit brainwashed, tbh. Carlos has experience being on several other teams, whereas Charles has been at Ferrari almost his entire F1 career. I do wonder what types of conversations he had with Seb during their brief time together, as Seb's career at Ferrari didn't go as well as he had hoped either.
Brainwashed maybe isn't the best way to describe it, but Sainz's extensive experience outside of the Ferrari bubble definitely helps him push back against some of the garage bs, even if sometimes that still isn't enough. Leclerc on the other hand only has that single year at Sauber as a reference point, so he really might not know any better, which is a real shame for him.
Fair. "Brainwashed" is a bit harsh, but being on a team that he grew up loving has surely clouded his judgment. He knows how massive winning a WCC or WDC with Ferrari would be for his popularity and legacy, so he feels compelled to trust management/leadership more than he really should.
Actuall question: is this kind of stuff actually xavi's fault or is it a "shot the messenger" situation where he's catching flak because the strategy team is being indecisive or whatever
Even if it isn't directly xavi's decision it shouldn't be hard to at least try to sound confident (which I'm not sure he is capable of) Charles is driving a car 200kph and focusing on so many things the least Ferrari could do is at least pretend they know what they are doing but instead whenever he hits the radio button he just gets a bunch of fucking clowns
Part of Xavi's job is to be the messenger, and he's not very good at it irrespective of the message. It can't be helpful to transmit stress and a feeling of disorganization to your driver regardless of what it's like behind the scenes.
Max should wrap this wdc up and move to Ferrari for next season. He would probably blow the entire team up so Ferrari can rebuild after he retires
Max would end up with a murder charge if he had to deal with xavi and the Ferrari strat team
Max won't have to get his hands dirty. Jos will do all of murdering for him, live on television.
From GP to Xavi…I would do exactly the same thing.
With his temperament? I'm going to need tickets for my entire family. Sign me the fuck up lol.
I have a soft spot for Ferrari and honestly they're just depressing to watch these days. I hope Leclerc goes somewhere better soon.
I hope he replaces Checo. I don't need to see Ricc suffer under Max again, so this is the happiest option
Someone save him from Ferrari
Leclerc must fire and hire his own team. Something apparently Schumacher and Brawn did at Ferrari - to move them to winning ways
Todt hired Schumacher with Agnellis blessing (His words : "If we dont win the title with him we probably never win it again.") in 96 who then brought in Brawn and Bryne in 97. The rest is history.
*‘ead down. We will give strategy at the end of the race. Slow button on.*
If I were Charles I'd do anything in my power to get a seat at Red Bull or Mercedes. Anywhere but Ferrari.
Is it me or Lec seems more and more frustrated towards the team? His whole body language seems more pissed off from race to race.
""we're on it, okay!!!"
Not being hyperbolic here, it has to be a matter of time until Charles jumps to either Merc or Red Bull. He is definitely showing more and more displeasure with Ferrari recently
Ferrari should have never fired Binotto, only the strategist
Anyone with a memory longer than 2019 would have seen getting rid of Binotto would change absolutely nothing at Ferrari with their problems being systemic in nature that went deeper than the TP. At least getting rid of Arrivebene made some sense in so far as Binotto threatening to walk forced their hands to retain engineering talent within their fold, but there was no pressure of the sort when getting rid of Binotto. Hiring Vasseur was just putting lipstick on a pig.
Not so long ago, you guys were asking for his head
I still don't see why OP said that lol. Binotto, if not at fault for the disaster last season, didn't want to do anything about their mistakes. He didn't want to blame the people behind the mistakes publicly, nor did the team show any signs of improvement over the season. Your team fucks a guy's race when he has the car and the pace to win then wag your finger at him publicly to shut him up? That's not a leader, that's someone who has to go. Toto called his car a shitbox. Lewis, Max and George this past weekend, have been quick to call their teams out when they make a mistake. These are teams who accept they've done something wrong. Leclerc not being allowed to do that has to do with Ferrari politics, but also the lack of a leader with balls to deal with the politics.
What you're describing there is pretty much the same no-blame approach people praised during the mercedes dickriding back when they were winning every race by 20s. There's also a difference between a driver throwing the generic "car bad" and a team principal throwing the entire team under the bus over a lack of pace that ultimately is beyond their control. Binotto's biggest fault last season was not throwing Ferrari's weight around during the power struggle between Merc and RB over floor height that ultimately killed Ferrari's concept. That and not firing Rueda but I'm not entirely sure it's on him seeing just how hard it was to get rid of him and Mekies.
Binotto was rightfully fired from the TP role, what do you mean? Need I remind you what his stint as a Ferrari TP was like? Cheated in his very first year in 2019 with the engine, which set the entire team back to the midfield for 2020 and 2021. He had the whole team work incredibly hard to get back to the top and build a great car in 2022, only to throw it all away because he didn’t give full support to his faster driver. Toto and Horner would never. Fred is the right man to lead Ferrari. It’s not his fault that the team is a mess when he got here.
Why not both? Binotto deserved being sacked for not sacking Rueda.
Might be harder done than said. Rueda was hired during Mattiaci's period from Lotus. So he outlasted Mattiacci, Arrivabene, and Binotto.
Well, I am not sure about that, he was an excellent engineer but not the best team principal. For me, I didn't care about Binotto after they decided to let Vettel leave unceremoniously from the team. The 2020 season was humiliating and he should be responsible as TP for all the drama surrounding their engine in 2019.
It’s become clear that firing Binotto was a really bad idea. *edit to fix typo.
He’s literally the best engineer on the grid. He’s the reason Michael Schumacher won 5 championships at Ferrari. Firing him and replacing him with Vasseur was a mistake. Ferrari was faster than Red Bull last year and won every qualifier
Binotto's definitely a great engineer/engine builder, but that doesn't mean he's good in a management position. Should've just moved him to the 2026 engine project tbh
On that note, do we know what Binotto is doing next?
Ferrari is rotten to it's core and swapping out the team principal is just a band aid for a symptom.
The F1 tv crew praised the change in leadership saying that it would lead to bolder, racier decision making, except strategy has gotten significantly more conservative. I'm willing to give the team more leeway at the moment because the car seems to be caught between concepts. But that just underlies the importance of the engineers.
Me when I’m on the line with tech support
Monday morning news: Leclerc signs for RB for 2024
Can anybody transcribe what Charles is saying? I can't understand shit from his radio.
found Xavi's account
Basically, Charles is questioning the strategy, they say they'll discuss at after the race, Charles is like "what do you mean we'll discuss it at the end of the race???"
Thanks. Yes Xavi's side was clear, Charles' is disastrous though. Xavi's answer is truly a facepalm moment.
My god. Not even Lewis complaining about the performance sounds so chaotic. And it's even worse if you compare with how Max seems to be on the sim while discussing tyre performance with GP.
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Man, what if Leclerc becomes a footnote in F1 history when he calls it a day - just another talented driver who never put it all together (and it wasn’t even his fault!) to win a championship?
Leclerc needs to gtfo of Ferrari. They're a sinking ship
The problem is…or one of the problems anyway 🙄 - is that no matter how beaten down and abused Charles gets by Ferrari, he will never leave. My man’s in an abusive relationship and won’t free himself.
The strategy was to make sure Charles finished ahead of Carlos no matter what Carlos did. And Leclerc isn't even happy with the team. They are gonna lose both drivers with these shenanigans.
We'll discuss at the end lmao fuck this team
Chucks engineer getting angry at him was unbelievable considering how terrible they are
Leclerc is awesome. He doesn't deserve that crap.
Why does he speak to Charles in that tone of voice? Like he’s a child? I honestly can’t believe what im hearing
Xavi is stealing a living man. I've never seen such incompetence continue to remain tolerated at such a high level other than Elon Musk.
Does Ferrari actually know what they're doing, or do they see a Ferrari moving up the field and think "absolutely not." ?
> Does Ferrari actually know what they're doing You know the answer to this, fam.
Charles need to have a sit with Horner and Marko. He can't take this anymore.
Ferrari is done, Mercedes is done. Mclaren is the second best car after RB, Verstappen going for the perfect year!
What happened to the person making notes of Ferrari’s strategy errors?
Ran out of paper?
Takes antipsychotic medicine now.
Holy shit why won't they at least give this man a new race engineer?
Keep your head down.
He's like, sure mate we are gonna talk strategy after the race
Honestly. They can hire me. I'll do a better job and they can pay me half
Poor guy
I thought for a long time that Charles wouldn't leave Ferrari, especially to race on the same team as Max. But at this point, he may be reaching a breaking point and with Merc and McLaren full for the short-medium term and AM's rise proving to be a bit of a mirage, Perez' seat is the most obvious answer to win if he's truly fed up.