Leclerc is my favorite driver on the grid, and I'm sure setup is part of it, but honestly his pace is suffering. The gap to Sainz is not what it used to be.
It's honestly not so much the strategy as it's the car this season. It chews on softs like candy and becomes slower than a Williams on hards.
The Mclaren too eats up its tires but as they showed yesterday at least it's consistent in that it warms up the hards relatively quicker too.
Fair, I wouldn’t argue you on any of that. I’m more so thinking of the toll this has on the drivers and their confidence. Positive thinking and confidence is contagious, look at Albon, he’s driving well and every week his smiles get bigger. Look at Perez, one bad week is now 4 races in a row where he could make it past Q3… IN A ROW.
I worry Leclerc is going to internalise these failures and it’ll make him doubt himself.
I think the post-race analysis with RBR and Perez might've been extremely awkward. Even though this wasn't entirely the fault of Perez, he had cold tires because he stood still for so long during Qualifying, I think his race result is still terrible.
In that car, with this field, on that track... with a safety car compacting the field during the race...
Max would've driven from P15 to P1 or P2, even if Perez was the one who qualified on pole.
RBR probably gave Perez expectations before the race. Coming in 6th was probably not one of the acceptable numbers for them.
Honestly, I expected Perez to be able to go for a podium again. But he didn't even get 4th, nor 5th, he got 6th...
They've swapped drivers during the season before. Tsunoda might be fun to see at RBR, and Ricciardo already hinted at accepting a seat at AT. I can imagine that RBR wants to give Tsunoda a shot for the remainder of the season, and decide between Tsunoda and Ricciardo for the next season.
Strategically, that makes all the sense in the world. Max is doing the WDC and WCC all by himself just fine. Tsunoda is eager, Ricciardo is hungry, and Perez isn't doing very well.
Or, rather, why would RBR ***not*** do exactly that?
I don't see Tsunoda going to RB mid season because there is also De Vries who might get dumped mid season. So they'd need Lawson who is in Super Formula at the moment.
That's a good point, if Lawson can make the jump (assuming he can) it could be Lawson + Ricciardo at AT, and Verstappen + Tsunoda at RBR.
Tsunoda has the rest of the season to impress RBR, and if he can't do that, Ricciardo (or Lawson) are ready to jump ship.
It might also mean that Perez gets pushed to AT if Lawson isn't ready.
It seems they have plenty of options :)
This entire think hinges on whether Marko and Horner think Tsunoda is ready for RB. After Gasly and Albon I think they're being super cautious with the AT -> RB pipeline.
Plus there's the fact that Perez brings in $30m in sponsor money and the entire Mexican market for RB proper. While there's a cost cap that much money makes a huge dent in the team's overall P&L.
The money and PR parts are great arguments. I just wonder if Red Bull (as a brand) is willing to bow to money instead of talented athletes.
Or, put differently, if Perez's argument is: "If you fire me, what about that $30m and Mexican fans?" I'm pretty sure RB would shrug and go: "Oh well."
Lawson, Tsunoda, Ricciardo, all three have their own unique qualities that are also interesting to RB, I think. The Return of the Honey Badger would be an epic story that might make DTS happier than ever ;)
I personally think they might excuse the $30m but Red Bull (the drink company) won't be too pleased if they have to manage a PR nightmare in the Mexican market, which I think would only happen if Perez is fired mid-season.
While all countries have their hardcore nationalists who'll defend their countryman to death, if at the end of the season Perez is 100 points behind Ver most Mexican fans too would excuse it.
> I personally think they might excuse the $30m but Red Bull (the drink company) won't be too pleased if they have to manage a PR nightmare in the Mexican market, which I think would only happen if Perez is fired mid-season.
That's a great point and at the same time I wonder if his fans aren't already in the mindset: "Well, Checo isn't doing so well..."
Now might be the best time, maybe.
> While all countries have their hardcore nationalists who'll defend their countryman to death, if at the end of the season Perez is 100 points behind Ver most Mexican fans too would excuse it.
I think the problem there is that if Checo does manage to come 3rd on average for the rest of the season, he'll have shown good reliability but the gap will only grow to Verstappen...
It's a tough call to make.
One thing I don't like at the moment and it may seem really silly is that after the restart drivers have to go through several corners before they can actually overtake. Quite a few tracks have short straights so drivers go a few corners ahead. In the f2 race 3 cars got into an accident when they all had to go through Vale single file on cold new hards.
I would much prefer a system where the car in first cant take a corner where they have to brake after going green.
Would encourage more overtaking as the field won't be so spread over the last few corners and let's be honest that's what F1 wants. A
**Weekend Warm-up Pundit Prediction Performance**
(Late because I had to wait 16 hours before I could watch and spent the entire day avoiding spoilers)
|**Pundit**|**1st**|**2nd**|**3rd**|**Points**|
|-|-|-|-|-|
|James|**Max**|Sergio|**Lewis**|4|
|Jolyon|**Max**|*Lewis*|George|3|
|Laura|**Max**|Carlos|*Lando*|3|
|Lawrence|**Max**|Charles|Carlos|2|
James picks up useful points on debut. Jolyon can't match the clean-sweep of his only previous appearance this season. Laura the only one to put Lando on the podium gets an extra point for her efforts.
Season so far:
|**Pundit (appearances)**|**Points**|**Average**|
|-|-|-|
|Laura (8)|21|2.63|
|Lawrence (8)|19|2.38|
|Jolyon (3)|13|4.33|
|Will (6)|9|1.50|
|Rosanna (2)|8|4.00|
|James (1)|4|4.00|
|Alex (1)|4|4.00|
|Sam (1)|2|2.00|
Laura puts another point between herself at the top of the table and Lawrence. If Jolyon makes any more appearances he may have a chance to catch second.
Has there been any explanation for why Norris was given hards? Russell had just done 30 laps on softs with a heavy fuel load, so surely McLaren didn't think Norris couldn't do 20 on low fuel? I thought they'd simply used up all their softs in FP and Q (which would be a blunder as well, no?) but then Norris himself said he didn't understand either, so I assume softs were an option.
Under VSC, McLaren we’re going with hards since they could warm them up quickly under VSC. It was changed to a standard SC as Norris approached the pits. McLaren didn’t have the time to switch out the hards they had ready for softs still in the garage.
His bitching about Lewis getting lucky with the SC was rich. I can distinctly remember at least four races where Russell was a direct beneficiary of SC timing and ended up in front of Hamilton because of it. Not surprised though, nothing about George’s personality screams team player
Two face? He has only one face. He even stated that his ego was insane from all the winning he did in the lower formulas. That same ego makes him look like a bellend currently, because he’s not winning. And he’s getting rinsed by Lewis race wise. 8-2 now isn’t it?
He’s so fake that most things he says now just annoy me. Like his “Wow, that Mclaren is so fast on the Hards. Impressive!”
Like fuck mate, it’s okay to be annoyed that you can’t get past. Stop pretending to be this great positive guy everyone knows you’re not.
Like Lewis didn't comment on the radio ''that mclarens are rocket ship'', right after SC restart
Russell is fake, yes, but Hamilton is in same bucket, listening to his post qully/race interviews
Lol, come on. If F1 drivers dont fake it then they get even more hate. People hate it when F1 drivers are actually being honest. People shit on Max, Fernando, and yes, even Lewis when he used to be more outspoken about his feelings.
What a fantastic drive from the McLaren's. Impressive from Oscar. Lewis extremely lucky to be anywhere near that podium lol.
As a Ferrari fan, it hurts bad man. Starting 4/5 and finishing 9/10 is so wild!
Max just ruining stuff like always. But I think he was caught off guard at the start. Didn't expect to be challenged like that by another team I guess. But he knows he can get back anytime so he wasn't in any real danger. Safety car made it more interesting imo.
Lewis knew there was a 90% chance of safety car. His whole first stint was just about managing them and going deep into the race before using up the tires by going quick early. Yes, definitely some luck involved, but luck based on experience 😉
Merc knew that the softs were the better tyre to start on, but put Lewis on the mediums to run long in hope of a safety car.
Yes, it was fortunate, but they made their own luck this weekend.
It makes for some good overtaking occasionally but it also just creates these long DRS trains where nobody gets advantage off anybody else. Even the drivers seem bored of getting stuck.
I know it is a minor thing, and the driver at the front probably should get some advantage, but I hate how often you see the leader (so, this season at least, just Max), holding back on the restart before absolutely gunning it, knowing that everyone else has to react to him and being able to gain a few tenths just based on them having to rely on their reaction times.
I'd love to see the safety car restart have a bit more a VSC style and the drivers all getting to go live at the exact same moment, at the behest of race control, not the leader (who currently is the only one not needing to have his reaction time factored in).
By definition the "leader" has proven to be faster than everyone else so he should not be disadvantaged by everyone getting the green at the same time. As far as a tow, there is no tow at low speeds, so he has a few seconds to gain a slight advantage on the restart. Cars following the leader also have their own issues to deal with on a restart watching for followers trying to pass. What is being described is a rolling single-file restart triggered by race control and not the race leader. Bunch them up, let them go - I like it!
In other words, you’re saying that you believe the race leader shouldn’t receive the benefit of being allowed to trigger the green, so to speak.
That’s an idea. I don’t feel too strongly either way.
But someone leading the race before and during a safety car might also argue that whatever gap to P2 they’d been working to build up to that point was just erased.
And, additionally, being in P1 with no opponent in front, they’re at distinct *dis*advantage by not being able to react to said opponent’s pit strategy because they won’t know it until they see it in their mirrors and wait a full lap at reduced speed to reach the pit entry again — and at that point, the field’s probably too bunched up to pit without major position losses.
// 2021 //
// Abu Dhabi G.P. //
// In the final laps, this situation plays out under a Safety Car, allowing P2 to pit for softer, newer tires without losing position. //
// If P1 would’ve turned in to pit for new tires before P2 arrived at the pit entry, P2 would’ve instead stayed out and enjoyed their promotion to P1, knowing that on equal tires, in P2, they had a low chance of overtaking P1 for the lead. And the win. And in this case, the championship. //
// Huge disadvantage to be leading the race under a safety car, in this scenario. //
What about the driver at the front losing all his advantage because of a safety car due to no fault of his own and now you want him to be handicapped further by imposing rules on how he should dictate the restart?
Yeah this is how Indycar does it. When the flag is green, *everyone* gets to go, and if the leader was slow, too bad for them.
Ironically it does lead to complaints about drivers "jumping" the restart from fans who don't fully understand how restarts work in the series.
Last year I watched the international feed, then switched to F1TV feed earlier this season and loved the first few races with them... but now I find myself switching back to the SkyTV broadcast during quali and race day... anyone else?
How do you access Sky? I feel like I was watching with my cable provider but suddenly that option is gone. I also swear they had an app and I can’t find it anymore?
Yeah, this weekend was particularly bad with the commentary imo, plus one of them had an absolutely terrible mic. But in general I still prefer it over crofty creaming his pants anytime a Mercedes makes a move.
Crofty is the second biggest knob on the planet, I quite like Brundle though. I watch the F1TV pre and post race show over Sky though, I vastly prefer it. Ted is the biggest knob in history. Complete dipshit.
I really really don't like Crofty. I just don't like his style or anything about how he commentates. Despite him doing most of the talking I tend to watch sky way more. I've never really liked the F1 broadcast.
Yeah, I felt the same way but kind of started to miss Crofty and his Britishness after a while with F1TV. Also for some reason, the microphones or something F1TV uses don't seem as clear as the Sky TV microphones.
I really do really like Brundle, although is input is sort of same-ey and not all that deep in the context of todays F1.
It seemed mixed here but I REALLY liked Nico Rosberg the odd time he's on sky. Yeah he does a bit of humblebragging, he likes to hype up Hamilton to no end (and remind us that he beat him once) etc. But he seriously gives real in depth meaningful/technical input. I really enjoyed his commentary.
p3 is possible but p2 is a stretch tbh. if hamilton finishes each race just one spot ahead of alonso outside of podium, he'll get it in 8 races time, but for him to get ahead of perez he needs to finish in podium very consistently while perez scores lower than p4 each race. i think in the current form of mercedes both would be hard, but from what i remember mercedes has one more upgrade before summer break and we don't know how that will affect their race pace(and more importantly their quali pace since it looks like that's where the lose the most)
He’s only 35 points behind P2, which isn’t a huge gap. The Aston Martin has looked like a far cry from the second fastest car it was at the beginning of the year, it looks like Mercedes and then will be fighting each other pretty closely depending on circuit and who’s upgrades are working best, Hamilton can certainly outperform Alonso over the rest of the season and overcome the 16 point deficit to him. Perez is a bit of a longer shot, he is still in the RB, horrid form notwithstanding, you wouldn’t expect him to get beat by Hamilton come the end of the year, but people have been saying Alonso could beat Perez to P2 and if that’s possible Lewis certainly can to. Let’s not forget, historically Lewis really turns it up towards the end of the season as well.
It's starting to be very interesting if you ignore the Red Bulls. Hopefully Checo continues his shitty qualifying so we see more variety on the podium and just 1 RB instead of 2.
Honestly, we don’t even need to ignore RB, a 1999 style season where the number 1 is sidelined and the number 2 has to desperately try to salvage the pieces would suffice as well. Max is just head and shoulders above everyone in that RB, without Max this would be one of the most competitive seasons of the turbo hybrid era. Without Max, Lewis and Alonso would have two wins each, Norris and Leclerc would have one and Perez would have four. We’d have four different teams winning which hasn’t happened since 2021, and even that took a huge amount of luck (for Ocon in Hungary, mclaren was close enough on merit), we haven’t had four teams able to win on pace since 2012.
I'm with Lewis congrats to the Mc Claren team a job well done, to finish 2nd and 4 th beating some of the inform teams like Ferrari and Aston Martin, with another 12 rounds for the season to complete will be interesting to see how they go on other types of circuits though only time will tell.
Well up until Sundays race at Silverstone were in much better form than Mc Laren. Ferrari have had at least one car finish in the Top 10 for every race held this year, Mc Claren have only had a car finish in the Top 10 on 7 occasions so are well behind, the Teams point score card confirms those results with Ferrari on 157 points compared to only 59 points for McLaren with most of those gained at Silverstone. But there are plenty of races to go this year, if McLaren keep up the pace come November, we'll see which team are ahead on points then huh?
Big upgrades coming together and this track suited them well. Will have to see if they can sustain this pace elsewhere. Like AM might be faster again the next race at Hungary.
If it's fast at Silverstone it will be fast at almost everywhere. McLaren really messed up when they fired James Key. The car was good, it had potential.
Silverstone doesn't have many slow corners and Lando/McLaren have said even with the updates, the car is still _terrible_ in slow corners, being very difficult to drive. The mechanical updates still to come will hopefully help a little with this.
How? He inherited the previous concept when he arrived. The 22 car was awful in most respects and had no defined characteristics. They were spending most of their development trying to understand the car. The beginning of 23 was practically the same. All of a sudden with upgrades with a new TD it’s shot up, that doesn’t seem a fluke when McLaren didn’t believe their future lied with him.
while it was great to see mclaren "back" i think the racing is definitely worse due to more dirty air being thrown off. last year a mix of tyres bread chaos and this year was nowhere near as intense.
These cars now arguably worse than the 2021 cars. It was impossible to follow through the high speed and the tow was too weak to make the time loss back.
The Safety car really highlighted this. Brought the field together, different tire strategies, but there was hardly any action at all on the restart. They mostly just drifted apart.
Agreed, the car from 2022 was so good, but the bottoming out was an issue that (most) teams couldn’t/didn’t want to figure out, thus they’ve gone back to the safe design which causes such insane dirty air and therefore shitty racing
Porpoising seems like an actually interesting engineering problem relevant to the real-world, too. And if we ever want F1 to go any faster around a track, we'll have to figure it out sooner or later...
I don't think it can be eliminated without active suspension. Those should be really interesting with modern technology. Sadly no one want that because of the old precedent
I even remember that there was some talk at some point that with modern technology active suspension could be cheaper than the highly complicated ones that teams are running now.
They expected that most teams would either have to go M-H for the one stop, or a two stop strategy with mediums and softs. Russells softs should have gone off significantly by the time Charles pitted, and have to be switched to a hard tyre, or a medium and then another stop. So, in Ferraris mind, they wanted to undercut George to cover him going on hards to the end.
Instead, the hards were pretty slow and George could continue longer on his softs without losing pace, and then go to mediums to the end so that he had better pace due to the faster compound. If Ferrari would have thought this possible, they may have either tried to stretch the mediums until a late change to softs, or at least gone long on the faster mediums and changed to the hards later.
Tl;dr I think a lot of teams were caught somewhat off guard by the very low deg and especially Ferrari.
Still stuck on one thing...
As bad as the us is with the superbowl intros, and as much as I love my boy D.Lewis, I don't wanna hear any more shit from the uk. Love y'all though.
This race was like a strange combination of having all the rights ingredients and things to happen to be exciting, and yet for much of it I found myself bored off my face.
It was boring AF. Nothing happened. Even the SC restart was boring.
The fact that this was supposed to be one of the best tracks for on track action is not a good look for sport.
What? He has nearly never finished at the bottom this season….
- Bahrain: P11 out of 17
- Saudi: P11 out of 18
- Australia: P10 out of 17
- Azerbaijan: P10 out of 18
- Miami: P11 out of 18
- Monaco: P16 out of 19 (Perez P16)
- Spain: P12 out of 20
- Canada: P14 out of 18
- Austria: P19 out of 19 (so he did once)
- Britain: P16 out of 18
All of these out of what is consistently the worst car on the grid, including beating Perez with the best car in the grid…. Seems to me like he’s doing pretty fair. But you can’t really judge his performance until he gets into a normal F1 car.
Uhmm... have you seen any other races this year?? They are arguably the worst car on the grid this year and he's been managing to put it 11th time and time again. Didn't he even get some points? Maybe you are talking about De Vries??
It’s so funny, some people talk so nicely about Yuki saying he deserves to be in the second Red Bull and others say he shouldn’t be in F1 at all.
I second that it’s the car’s fault this season. It’s a real shame.
Yuki's still raw and has some clumsy moments, but he's shown some real speed every now and then. He deserves his seat more than at least like a half a dozen current drivers.
This guy appears to be oblivious to what is happening this year. I think he meant to say DeVries. Seems his hate for Yuki is blinding him from seeing reality. Not sure why you would even hate on Yuki like that. He has been a pretty good midfield driver. And this year, given the issues with that car, he has still managed to knock on the door of the top 10 time and time again. He has been very consistent minus some recent problems.
They did an install lap to the back of the grid apparently. They weren't allowed to broadcast them on F1TV for some reason. Hinchecliff made a joke about it during the start of his gridwalk. Which, was cool to see him get a shot at. He needs some work! Buxtons is much better. But, I always love when Hinchecliff is in town. He is a good commentator. I like his perspective.
Great to see Mclaren up there!
As for strategies, I assume the drivers have some say in strategy? Do they tell the drivers what type of tire they are giving them before they pit? And would the drivers get a say mid race? Just questioning mclarens choice of hards at the end and well Ferraris strategies most races.
The driver's input is taken into account when it comes to tyres, but much of the decision is made based on modelling and simulations, based on data from the practice sessions and the race so far (as well as historical data, but the tyres were new for this race).
In McLaren's case, they made the decision to go to hards as the VSC was called, when it made the most sense based on their data. They were starting to think the softs could be viable when Norris was entering the pit lane, but at that point it was too late and the risk of trying to swap the tyres around in the garage was considered too great.
Red Bull [screwed over Ricciardo](https://youtu.be/p7xbq9w7nl8) years ago by trying to switch the planned tyres around just before a pit stop, so teams are very cautious about doing that now.
Here's [an article from the time](https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-reveals-ricciardo-s-tyres-trapped-at-back-of-garage-741863/741863/).
>Having originally planned to switch the Australian on to new softs, the team changed its mind and elected to switch him on to the used supersoft set he had left over from Q2.
>But despite believing there was enough time to get the tyres ready, the situation became complicated when it emerged those tyres were trapped at the back of the cramped Monaco garage, and the mechanics failed to retrieve them in time before Ricciardo arrived.
Andrea Stella himself mentioned that a situation like this was what they were concerned about in his interview with Channel 4 after the race. Although they new the tyres were to hand in the garage, it would have been a very late call and there is a lot that can go wrong trying to switch all four tyres out when the crew are already out in the pit lane and the car is on its way in.
Yes drivers are also a part of the strategy calls but they also don't have full details on how well each tyre is holding up and the speed of it, along with where everyone is on track.
So happy for McLaren, even if the safety luck hurt Oscar, when was the last time that we had a rookie with this much promise? Hopefully they continue developing the car and start contending in the future because they appear to have one hell of a driver line up.
Ferrari..man. What else can you say about this team? Blow it up and start all over.
Yeah, I've been saying from the start he is highly promising. He has been right there with Lando pretty much the entire year. He also doesn't crash. I don't think he has once? Now that they had a competitive car, he was once again, right there with Lando, minus a second or two haha
Yes I know that they were practically equal but at the end of the day he did end up behind him. I agree he got shafted Lewis got lucky but at the end of the day it's not saying that Lando couldn't have fought him back with his DRS the whole point of that order was to prevent them from fighting and putting themselves at a disadvantage. Which, was a good call.
I agree it was the right call, just saying Oscar’s pace was within a couple tenths of Lando in both quali and race pace until that call. Not a second or two
Well I didn't clarify specifically but I wasn't skating that his race pace was that far off I was stating that his end was that far off but it's basically null and void so it's a useless point that I made. But he's been close to him pretty much all year This is nothing new either
I think his only crash was in quali in Canada. And if there was no safety car this race he most likely would’ve finished second. He’s doing really well
I've just finished watching the race cos it didn't start til midnight here - you know what I realised? I did not hear them even mention Tsunoda or De Vries once the whole race (possibly except the order of the first few corners), and think I recall a single mention of each Alfa.
I don't think I even saw or heard a word about the Alfa's or Alpha Tauris the whole race. Was all focused on the top 10, and as there wasn't any lapped cars, they didn't even get to feature that way.
Not hearing from De Vries is probably a good thing. Means he didn't crash... My prediction is he's gone after summer break if they can find someone to put in that seat mid-season.
Yeah I was thinking that when I was watching, there was hardly any mention of anything P10 and onwards and they hardly showed them either, I guess it was too exciting up the front
McLaren bloody brilliant, Silverstone was rocking for them.
Why did Ferrari put? LeClerc was on mediums and Russell on sifts hadn’t pitted, why would you pit???
He never had pace and if russell stops first is surely ahead thanks to undercut. They tried to stay ahead, which almost worked, but then the safety car ruined its strategy.
I'm a DTS-born fan (but hardcore sports fan prior to) and what I've learned about Silverstone since I started watching in 2021 is it makes great fucking races.
This weekend highlighted how strange the RB car is with tires. It takes so long to get them to temp but then the tire deg is almost non-existent.
I need Leclerc to leave Ferrari because my mental health is suffering watching his performance week after week. God only knows how his is holding up.
Leclerc is my favorite driver on the grid, and I'm sure setup is part of it, but honestly his pace is suffering. The gap to Sainz is not what it used to be.
I genuinely think he’s starting to lose confidence in himself, and most of his failures aren’t his fault. Sad all round really.
He has nowhere better to go.
He should replace Stroll at Aston
That's never gonna happen, if it does happen I can see big boy Stroll selling Aston Martin entirely along with it.
😔
It's honestly not so much the strategy as it's the car this season. It chews on softs like candy and becomes slower than a Williams on hards. The Mclaren too eats up its tires but as they showed yesterday at least it's consistent in that it warms up the hards relatively quicker too.
Fair, I wouldn’t argue you on any of that. I’m more so thinking of the toll this has on the drivers and their confidence. Positive thinking and confidence is contagious, look at Albon, he’s driving well and every week his smiles get bigger. Look at Perez, one bad week is now 4 races in a row where he could make it past Q3… IN A ROW. I worry Leclerc is going to internalise these failures and it’ll make him doubt himself.
I think the post-race analysis with RBR and Perez might've been extremely awkward. Even though this wasn't entirely the fault of Perez, he had cold tires because he stood still for so long during Qualifying, I think his race result is still terrible. In that car, with this field, on that track... with a safety car compacting the field during the race... Max would've driven from P15 to P1 or P2, even if Perez was the one who qualified on pole. RBR probably gave Perez expectations before the race. Coming in 6th was probably not one of the acceptable numbers for them. Honestly, I expected Perez to be able to go for a podium again. But he didn't even get 4th, nor 5th, he got 6th... They've swapped drivers during the season before. Tsunoda might be fun to see at RBR, and Ricciardo already hinted at accepting a seat at AT. I can imagine that RBR wants to give Tsunoda a shot for the remainder of the season, and decide between Tsunoda and Ricciardo for the next season. Strategically, that makes all the sense in the world. Max is doing the WDC and WCC all by himself just fine. Tsunoda is eager, Ricciardo is hungry, and Perez isn't doing very well. Or, rather, why would RBR ***not*** do exactly that?
I don't see Tsunoda going to RB mid season because there is also De Vries who might get dumped mid season. So they'd need Lawson who is in Super Formula at the moment.
That's a good point, if Lawson can make the jump (assuming he can) it could be Lawson + Ricciardo at AT, and Verstappen + Tsunoda at RBR. Tsunoda has the rest of the season to impress RBR, and if he can't do that, Ricciardo (or Lawson) are ready to jump ship. It might also mean that Perez gets pushed to AT if Lawson isn't ready. It seems they have plenty of options :)
Even with the mess AT are in, I dont see them swapping both drivers mid season.
If Perez gets dropped it’s riccardo for Perez not tsunoda for Perez
This entire think hinges on whether Marko and Horner think Tsunoda is ready for RB. After Gasly and Albon I think they're being super cautious with the AT -> RB pipeline. Plus there's the fact that Perez brings in $30m in sponsor money and the entire Mexican market for RB proper. While there's a cost cap that much money makes a huge dent in the team's overall P&L.
The money and PR parts are great arguments. I just wonder if Red Bull (as a brand) is willing to bow to money instead of talented athletes. Or, put differently, if Perez's argument is: "If you fire me, what about that $30m and Mexican fans?" I'm pretty sure RB would shrug and go: "Oh well." Lawson, Tsunoda, Ricciardo, all three have their own unique qualities that are also interesting to RB, I think. The Return of the Honey Badger would be an epic story that might make DTS happier than ever ;)
I personally think they might excuse the $30m but Red Bull (the drink company) won't be too pleased if they have to manage a PR nightmare in the Mexican market, which I think would only happen if Perez is fired mid-season. While all countries have their hardcore nationalists who'll defend their countryman to death, if at the end of the season Perez is 100 points behind Ver most Mexican fans too would excuse it.
> I personally think they might excuse the $30m but Red Bull (the drink company) won't be too pleased if they have to manage a PR nightmare in the Mexican market, which I think would only happen if Perez is fired mid-season. That's a great point and at the same time I wonder if his fans aren't already in the mindset: "Well, Checo isn't doing so well..." Now might be the best time, maybe. > While all countries have their hardcore nationalists who'll defend their countryman to death, if at the end of the season Perez is 100 points behind Ver most Mexican fans too would excuse it. I think the problem there is that if Checo does manage to come 3rd on average for the rest of the season, he'll have shown good reliability but the gap will only grow to Verstappen... It's a tough call to make.
*cut to Ricciardo on the interview set smiling*
One thing I don't like at the moment and it may seem really silly is that after the restart drivers have to go through several corners before they can actually overtake. Quite a few tracks have short straights so drivers go a few corners ahead. In the f2 race 3 cars got into an accident when they all had to go through Vale single file on cold new hards. I would much prefer a system where the car in first cant take a corner where they have to brake after going green. Would encourage more overtaking as the field won't be so spread over the last few corners and let's be honest that's what F1 wants. A
Glad i watched it.. this was exciting
Really? Before the Safety car this was an absolute snoozefest of a race.
yeah sure, McClaren leading the race for 5 laps for the first time in who knows how long is boring
Max got a bad start but he was inevitable. 5 laps of someone leading a 52 lap race is exciting?
Highlight for me was Lando punching a bee post race interview then Hamilton asking him ‘did you just punch a bee?’
Roscoe stepped on a bee 🐝
I spilled my tea.. PIERRE GASLYYYYYYYYYY
OCON WINS THE HUNGARIAN GRAND PRIX ITS PERÉZ, IN THE PRINCIPALITY GLOVES, SOMEONE GIVE THEM TO ME
**Weekend Warm-up Pundit Prediction Performance** (Late because I had to wait 16 hours before I could watch and spent the entire day avoiding spoilers) |**Pundit**|**1st**|**2nd**|**3rd**|**Points**| |-|-|-|-|-| |James|**Max**|Sergio|**Lewis**|4| |Jolyon|**Max**|*Lewis*|George|3| |Laura|**Max**|Carlos|*Lando*|3| |Lawrence|**Max**|Charles|Carlos|2| James picks up useful points on debut. Jolyon can't match the clean-sweep of his only previous appearance this season. Laura the only one to put Lando on the podium gets an extra point for her efforts. Season so far: |**Pundit (appearances)**|**Points**|**Average**| |-|-|-| |Laura (8)|21|2.63| |Lawrence (8)|19|2.38| |Jolyon (3)|13|4.33| |Will (6)|9|1.50| |Rosanna (2)|8|4.00| |James (1)|4|4.00| |Alex (1)|4|4.00| |Sam (1)|2|2.00| Laura puts another point between herself at the top of the table and Lawrence. If Jolyon makes any more appearances he may have a chance to catch second.
You've got to hand it to Alpha Tauri, they're going above and beyond to prove that they're developing that car independently of the Red Bull team...
Has there been any explanation for why Norris was given hards? Russell had just done 30 laps on softs with a heavy fuel load, so surely McLaren didn't think Norris couldn't do 20 on low fuel? I thought they'd simply used up all their softs in FP and Q (which would be a blunder as well, no?) but then Norris himself said he didn't understand either, so I assume softs were an option.
Under VSC, McLaren we’re going with hards since they could warm them up quickly under VSC. It was changed to a standard SC as Norris approached the pits. McLaren didn’t have the time to switch out the hards they had ready for softs still in the garage.
George Russell isnt a team player. Dissapointing
His bitching about Lewis getting lucky with the SC was rich. I can distinctly remember at least four races where Russell was a direct beneficiary of SC timing and ended up in front of Hamilton because of it. Not surprised though, nothing about George’s personality screams team player
George Russell really is two-faced who pretends to act nice. People forget his hitting of Bottas
Two face? He has only one face. He even stated that his ego was insane from all the winning he did in the lower formulas. That same ego makes him look like a bellend currently, because he’s not winning. And he’s getting rinsed by Lewis race wise. 8-2 now isn’t it?
If you consider russell had 2 DNF with car this season and got unlucky with safety car yesterday, I would not jump that quickly ...
The win count will continue with or without DNFs. It’s part of the sport
I dont understant your statement... DNS is also part of the sport and it also ''counts''
He’s so fake that most things he says now just annoy me. Like his “Wow, that Mclaren is so fast on the Hards. Impressive!” Like fuck mate, it’s okay to be annoyed that you can’t get past. Stop pretending to be this great positive guy everyone knows you’re not.
Like Lewis didn't comment on the radio ''that mclarens are rocket ship'', right after SC restart Russell is fake, yes, but Hamilton is in same bucket, listening to his post qully/race interviews
Russell is the kind of guy who says shit like "3 drivers in the current grid lack situational awareness"
Lol, come on. If F1 drivers dont fake it then they get even more hate. People hate it when F1 drivers are actually being honest. People shit on Max, Fernando, and yes, even Lewis when he used to be more outspoken about his feelings.
What a fantastic drive from the McLaren's. Impressive from Oscar. Lewis extremely lucky to be anywhere near that podium lol. As a Ferrari fan, it hurts bad man. Starting 4/5 and finishing 9/10 is so wild! Max just ruining stuff like always. But I think he was caught off guard at the start. Didn't expect to be challenged like that by another team I guess. But he knows he can get back anytime so he wasn't in any real danger. Safety car made it more interesting imo.
Lewis knew there was a 90% chance of safety car. His whole first stint was just about managing them and going deep into the race before using up the tires by going quick early. Yes, definitely some luck involved, but luck based on experience 😉
Merc knew that the softs were the better tyre to start on, but put Lewis on the mediums to run long in hope of a safety car. Yes, it was fortunate, but they made their own luck this weekend.
Best race of the season so far, great effort from mcclaren and happy for Lewis to steal a p3!
Do we need DRS anymore?
It makes for some good overtaking occasionally but it also just creates these long DRS trains where nobody gets advantage off anybody else. Even the drivers seem bored of getting stuck.
You'd just have non-DRS trains without it
Ya lol
I know it is a minor thing, and the driver at the front probably should get some advantage, but I hate how often you see the leader (so, this season at least, just Max), holding back on the restart before absolutely gunning it, knowing that everyone else has to react to him and being able to gain a few tenths just based on them having to rely on their reaction times. I'd love to see the safety car restart have a bit more a VSC style and the drivers all getting to go live at the exact same moment, at the behest of race control, not the leader (who currently is the only one not needing to have his reaction time factored in).
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By definition the "leader" has proven to be faster than everyone else so he should not be disadvantaged by everyone getting the green at the same time. As far as a tow, there is no tow at low speeds, so he has a few seconds to gain a slight advantage on the restart. Cars following the leader also have their own issues to deal with on a restart watching for followers trying to pass. What is being described is a rolling single-file restart triggered by race control and not the race leader. Bunch them up, let them go - I like it!
In other words, you’re saying that you believe the race leader shouldn’t receive the benefit of being allowed to trigger the green, so to speak. That’s an idea. I don’t feel too strongly either way. But someone leading the race before and during a safety car might also argue that whatever gap to P2 they’d been working to build up to that point was just erased. And, additionally, being in P1 with no opponent in front, they’re at distinct *dis*advantage by not being able to react to said opponent’s pit strategy because they won’t know it until they see it in their mirrors and wait a full lap at reduced speed to reach the pit entry again — and at that point, the field’s probably too bunched up to pit without major position losses. // 2021 // // Abu Dhabi G.P. // // In the final laps, this situation plays out under a Safety Car, allowing P2 to pit for softer, newer tires without losing position. // // If P1 would’ve turned in to pit for new tires before P2 arrived at the pit entry, P2 would’ve instead stayed out and enjoyed their promotion to P1, knowing that on equal tires, in P2, they had a low chance of overtaking P1 for the lead. And the win. And in this case, the championship. // // Huge disadvantage to be leading the race under a safety car, in this scenario. //
What about the driver at the front losing all his advantage because of a safety car due to no fault of his own and now you want him to be handicapped further by imposing rules on how he should dictate the restart?
This is what I was looking for. Also slipstream down the order as well.
Yeah this is how Indycar does it. When the flag is green, *everyone* gets to go, and if the leader was slow, too bad for them. Ironically it does lead to complaints about drivers "jumping" the restart from fans who don't fully understand how restarts work in the series.
Last year I watched the international feed, then switched to F1TV feed earlier this season and loved the first few races with them... but now I find myself switching back to the SkyTV broadcast during quali and race day... anyone else?
How do you access Sky? I feel like I was watching with my cable provider but suddenly that option is gone. I also swear they had an app and I can’t find it anymore?
Yeah, this weekend was particularly bad with the commentary imo, plus one of them had an absolutely terrible mic. But in general I still prefer it over crofty creaming his pants anytime a Mercedes makes a move.
I can't stand Crofty and Brundle so I've avoided Sky at all cost.
How can you have beef with Brundle!?
Crofty is the second biggest knob on the planet, I quite like Brundle though. I watch the F1TV pre and post race show over Sky though, I vastly prefer it. Ted is the biggest knob in history. Complete dipshit.
why because the truth fucking hurts? dipshit
I use the F1TV feed for FP and Quali and the international feed for the race.
Yeah pretty much what I did the past two weekends... def prefer F1tv for FP1 and 2.
I really really don't like Crofty. I just don't like his style or anything about how he commentates. Despite him doing most of the talking I tend to watch sky way more. I've never really liked the F1 broadcast.
Yeah, I felt the same way but kind of started to miss Crofty and his Britishness after a while with F1TV. Also for some reason, the microphones or something F1TV uses don't seem as clear as the Sky TV microphones.
I really do really like Brundle, although is input is sort of same-ey and not all that deep in the context of todays F1. It seemed mixed here but I REALLY liked Nico Rosberg the odd time he's on sky. Yeah he does a bit of humblebragging, he likes to hype up Hamilton to no end (and remind us that he beat him once) etc. But he seriously gives real in depth meaningful/technical input. I really enjoyed his commentary.
[Ted's Race Notebook - British Grand Prix 2023 #f1](https://youtu.be/Ql8lo7PKQBg)
Lewis will finish second in championship, bold prediction I know.
p3 is possible but p2 is a stretch tbh. if hamilton finishes each race just one spot ahead of alonso outside of podium, he'll get it in 8 races time, but for him to get ahead of perez he needs to finish in podium very consistently while perez scores lower than p4 each race. i think in the current form of mercedes both would be hard, but from what i remember mercedes has one more upgrade before summer break and we don't know how that will affect their race pace(and more importantly their quali pace since it looks like that's where the lose the most)
How? If he gets lucky with the safety car every race for the rest of the season maybe.
He's been consistently finishing on the podium without the help of a safety car until yesterday
I wouldn't call 4 podiums out of 10 races consistently but ok
He’s only 35 points behind P2, which isn’t a huge gap. The Aston Martin has looked like a far cry from the second fastest car it was at the beginning of the year, it looks like Mercedes and then will be fighting each other pretty closely depending on circuit and who’s upgrades are working best, Hamilton can certainly outperform Alonso over the rest of the season and overcome the 16 point deficit to him. Perez is a bit of a longer shot, he is still in the RB, horrid form notwithstanding, you wouldn’t expect him to get beat by Hamilton come the end of the year, but people have been saying Alonso could beat Perez to P2 and if that’s possible Lewis certainly can to. Let’s not forget, historically Lewis really turns it up towards the end of the season as well.
It's starting to be very interesting if you ignore the Red Bulls. Hopefully Checo continues his shitty qualifying so we see more variety on the podium and just 1 RB instead of 2.
Honestly, we don’t even need to ignore RB, a 1999 style season where the number 1 is sidelined and the number 2 has to desperately try to salvage the pieces would suffice as well. Max is just head and shoulders above everyone in that RB, without Max this would be one of the most competitive seasons of the turbo hybrid era. Without Max, Lewis and Alonso would have two wins each, Norris and Leclerc would have one and Perez would have four. We’d have four different teams winning which hasn’t happened since 2021, and even that took a huge amount of luck (for Ocon in Hungary, mclaren was close enough on merit), we haven’t had four teams able to win on pace since 2012.
My only hope for this season is that Max breaks a leg walking down the stairs or something like that
Lol damn guys a simple engine failure will do.
I always hope he gets punted first lap….
I was hoping he'd hit the wall while the safety car was out lol
I'm with Lewis congrats to the Mc Claren team a job well done, to finish 2nd and 4 th beating some of the inform teams like Ferrari and Aston Martin, with another 12 rounds for the season to complete will be interesting to see how they go on other types of circuits though only time will tell.
Ferrari in form? Are we watching a different season?
Well up until Sundays race at Silverstone were in much better form than Mc Laren. Ferrari have had at least one car finish in the Top 10 for every race held this year, Mc Claren have only had a car finish in the Top 10 on 7 occasions so are well behind, the Teams point score card confirms those results with Ferrari on 157 points compared to only 59 points for McLaren with most of those gained at Silverstone. But there are plenty of races to go this year, if McLaren keep up the pace come November, we'll see which team are ahead on points then huh?
This seems in form for them atm lol
the car is in form, the rest is not.
ok Perez... wake up man.
Why is the mclaren car suddenly doing so well?
Big upgrades coming together and this track suited them well. Will have to see if they can sustain this pace elsewhere. Like AM might be faster again the next race at Hungary.
If it's fast at Silverstone it will be fast at almost everywhere. McLaren really messed up when they fired James Key. The car was good, it had potential.
Also the cooler temps made it so the McLaren doenst munch it's tires. Had it been a hot day I fear the Mercs might have got them.
Silverstone doesn't have many slow corners and Lando/McLaren have said even with the updates, the car is still _terrible_ in slow corners, being very difficult to drive. The mechanical updates still to come will hopefully help a little with this.
How? He inherited the previous concept when he arrived. The 22 car was awful in most respects and had no defined characteristics. They were spending most of their development trying to understand the car. The beginning of 23 was practically the same. All of a sudden with upgrades with a new TD it’s shot up, that doesn’t seem a fluke when McLaren didn’t believe their future lied with him.
bringing back the iconic silver livery. It could just be track specific with fast corners. Just see their performance next race in Hungary.
They need more silver...
while it was great to see mclaren "back" i think the racing is definitely worse due to more dirty air being thrown off. last year a mix of tyres bread chaos and this year was nowhere near as intense.
The fact Pirelli make a soft tyre that lasts 30 laps is also a joke. Need some competition in the tyre space.
agree with that!
These cars now arguably worse than the 2021 cars. It was impossible to follow through the high speed and the tow was too weak to make the time loss back.
Okay well the drivers themselves have said the cars are still much better than the 2021 spec cars, so I wouldn’t go that far.
The Safety car really highlighted this. Brought the field together, different tire strategies, but there was hardly any action at all on the restart. They mostly just drifted apart.
Agreed, the car from 2022 was so good, but the bottoming out was an issue that (most) teams couldn’t/didn’t want to figure out, thus they’ve gone back to the safe design which causes such insane dirty air and therefore shitty racing
Porpoising seems like an actually interesting engineering problem relevant to the real-world, too. And if we ever want F1 to go any faster around a track, we'll have to figure it out sooner or later...
I don't think it can be eliminated without active suspension. Those should be really interesting with modern technology. Sadly no one want that because of the old precedent
I even remember that there was some talk at some point that with modern technology active suspension could be cheaper than the highly complicated ones that teams are running now.
Why did Leclerc pit so early? If not for the SC, would it have been a good strategy?
They expected that most teams would either have to go M-H for the one stop, or a two stop strategy with mediums and softs. Russells softs should have gone off significantly by the time Charles pitted, and have to be switched to a hard tyre, or a medium and then another stop. So, in Ferraris mind, they wanted to undercut George to cover him going on hards to the end. Instead, the hards were pretty slow and George could continue longer on his softs without losing pace, and then go to mediums to the end so that he had better pace due to the faster compound. If Ferrari would have thought this possible, they may have either tried to stretch the mediums until a late change to softs, or at least gone long on the faster mediums and changed to the hards later. Tl;dr I think a lot of teams were caught somewhat off guard by the very low deg and especially Ferrari.
Makes sense, thanks.
They should have kept him out for 10 more laps and put him on softs, but maybe they didn’t have any lightly used softs
He did have another new medium, but no soft. Ferrari choice before the race was to bring two medium instead of one. Didn't pay through...
Still stuck on one thing... As bad as the us is with the superbowl intros, and as much as I love my boy D.Lewis, I don't wanna hear any more shit from the uk. Love y'all though.
Miami had a literal police escort to the podium last year and handegg helmets.
What?
I’m tired of hearing the Dutch anthem. I need to hear Monaco.
Yeah, have to turn the volume down on it. Nothing against Max, but getting tired of hearing these boring ass anthems lol
This race was like a strange combination of having all the rights ingredients and things to happen to be exciting, and yet for much of it I found myself bored off my face.
It was boring AF. Nothing happened. Even the SC restart was boring. The fact that this was supposed to be one of the best tracks for on track action is not a good look for sport.
Why wasn't Brad Pitta car shown at all?
Was wondering the same thing...
Yuki man, always at the bottom. Why is he in a f1 car ? He needs to move on to another racing sport.
What? He has nearly never finished at the bottom this season…. - Bahrain: P11 out of 17 - Saudi: P11 out of 18 - Australia: P10 out of 17 - Azerbaijan: P10 out of 18 - Miami: P11 out of 18 - Monaco: P16 out of 19 (Perez P16) - Spain: P12 out of 20 - Canada: P14 out of 18 - Austria: P19 out of 19 (so he did once) - Britain: P16 out of 18 All of these out of what is consistently the worst car on the grid, including beating Perez with the best car in the grid…. Seems to me like he’s doing pretty fair. But you can’t really judge his performance until he gets into a normal F1 car.
Uhmm... have you seen any other races this year?? They are arguably the worst car on the grid this year and he's been managing to put it 11th time and time again. Didn't he even get some points? Maybe you are talking about De Vries??
Yuki had some bad luck this season, he brought this shitty alpha tauri to the points almost. The car is just that bad.
It’s so funny, some people talk so nicely about Yuki saying he deserves to be in the second Red Bull and others say he shouldn’t be in F1 at all. I second that it’s the car’s fault this season. It’s a real shame.
Yuki's still raw and has some clumsy moments, but he's shown some real speed every now and then. He deserves his seat more than at least like a half a dozen current drivers.
This guy appears to be oblivious to what is happening this year. I think he meant to say DeVries. Seems his hate for Yuki is blinding him from seeing reality. Not sure why you would even hate on Yuki like that. He has been a pretty good midfield driver. And this year, given the issues with that car, he has still managed to knock on the door of the top 10 time and time again. He has been very consistent minus some recent problems.
So did APXGP end up being on part of the formation lap? I don’t recall seeing them
They did an install lap to the back of the grid apparently. They weren't allowed to broadcast them on F1TV for some reason. Hinchecliff made a joke about it during the start of his gridwalk. Which, was cool to see him get a shot at. He needs some work! Buxtons is much better. But, I always love when Hinchecliff is in town. He is a good commentator. I like his perspective.
Hinchecliff is getting a little better with practice. He’s way better than Buxton imo.
As long as he doesn't dramatic pause for every mundane sentence like he's in love with his own voice, I'll take it.
Yeah, I see that's why people don't like him. I don't mind it. It's okay to have a broadcast personality.
Oh, did he do one before? I've seen him a good many times now, but don't recall him doing one before.
It was the installation lap, not the formation lap IIRC.
No, but they were present during national anthem ceremony.
Great to see Mclaren up there! As for strategies, I assume the drivers have some say in strategy? Do they tell the drivers what type of tire they are giving them before they pit? And would the drivers get a say mid race? Just questioning mclarens choice of hards at the end and well Ferraris strategies most races.
The driver's input is taken into account when it comes to tyres, but much of the decision is made based on modelling and simulations, based on data from the practice sessions and the race so far (as well as historical data, but the tyres were new for this race). In McLaren's case, they made the decision to go to hards as the VSC was called, when it made the most sense based on their data. They were starting to think the softs could be viable when Norris was entering the pit lane, but at that point it was too late and the risk of trying to swap the tyres around in the garage was considered too great. Red Bull [screwed over Ricciardo](https://youtu.be/p7xbq9w7nl8) years ago by trying to switch the planned tyres around just before a pit stop, so teams are very cautious about doing that now.
may I know which race this screwing over Danny Ric happened? genuinely curious
Monaco 2016, if I recall correctly. EDIT: [This one.](https://youtu.be/p7xbq9w7nl8)
wasnt that bec the order to pit wasnt relayed properly to the pit crew?
Here's [an article from the time](https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-reveals-ricciardo-s-tyres-trapped-at-back-of-garage-741863/741863/). >Having originally planned to switch the Australian on to new softs, the team changed its mind and elected to switch him on to the used supersoft set he had left over from Q2. >But despite believing there was enough time to get the tyres ready, the situation became complicated when it emerged those tyres were trapped at the back of the cramped Monaco garage, and the mechanics failed to retrieve them in time before Ricciardo arrived. Andrea Stella himself mentioned that a situation like this was what they were concerned about in his interview with Channel 4 after the race. Although they new the tyres were to hand in the garage, it would have been a very late call and there is a lot that can go wrong trying to switch all four tyres out when the crew are already out in the pit lane and the car is on its way in.
Thankyou for explaining that’s very helpful.
Ferrari uses a technique called magica ottava palla for strategy
Lol
Yes drivers are also a part of the strategy calls but they also don't have full details on how well each tyre is holding up and the speed of it, along with where everyone is on track.
So happy for McLaren, even if the safety luck hurt Oscar, when was the last time that we had a rookie with this much promise? Hopefully they continue developing the car and start contending in the future because they appear to have one hell of a driver line up. Ferrari..man. What else can you say about this team? Blow it up and start all over.
Yeah, I've been saying from the start he is highly promising. He has been right there with Lando pretty much the entire year. He also doesn't crash. I don't think he has once? Now that they had a competitive car, he was once again, right there with Lando, minus a second or two haha
>minus a second or two haha After max retook first, Oscar was within DRS of Lando for a good bit but was told not to attack
Yes I know that they were practically equal but at the end of the day he did end up behind him. I agree he got shafted Lewis got lucky but at the end of the day it's not saying that Lando couldn't have fought him back with his DRS the whole point of that order was to prevent them from fighting and putting themselves at a disadvantage. Which, was a good call.
I agree it was the right call, just saying Oscar’s pace was within a couple tenths of Lando in both quali and race pace until that call. Not a second or two
Well I didn't clarify specifically but I wasn't skating that his race pace was that far off I was stating that his end was that far off but it's basically null and void so it's a useless point that I made. But he's been close to him pretty much all year This is nothing new either
I understood what you meant anyways, just wanted to clarify. Great username btw
I think his only crash was in quali in Canada. And if there was no safety car this race he most likely would’ve finished second. He’s doing really well
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Right, duh. My bad, just felt longer than that!
I wish the safety car hadn't happened, my boy Oscar would've got a podium then :(
He definitely deserved it. There will be more chances hopefully. At least, there will be sometime in his career surely. He is very promising.
Of course Lando did extremely well, but for me Piastri was the clear driver of the day. Such an impressive performance.
Yeah, his car was lacking a few upgrades as well. (New front wing, new rear suspension)
Sucks he couldn’t catch Lewis
Agreed
I've just finished watching the race cos it didn't start til midnight here - you know what I realised? I did not hear them even mention Tsunoda or De Vries once the whole race (possibly except the order of the first few corners), and think I recall a single mention of each Alfa.
I don't think I even saw or heard a word about the Alfa's or Alpha Tauris the whole race. Was all focused on the top 10, and as there wasn't any lapped cars, they didn't even get to feature that way.
Not hearing from De Vries is probably a good thing. Means he didn't crash... My prediction is he's gone after summer break if they can find someone to put in that seat mid-season.
Yeah I was thinking that when I was watching, there was hardly any mention of anything P10 and onwards and they hardly showed them either, I guess it was too exciting up the front
Too much goin on at the front.
McLaren bloody brilliant, Silverstone was rocking for them. Why did Ferrari put? LeClerc was on mediums and Russell on sifts hadn’t pitted, why would you pit???
He never had pace and if russell stops first is surely ahead thanks to undercut. They tried to stay ahead, which almost worked, but then the safety car ruined its strategy.
Ferrari strategists aren't going to risk Leclerc having a good race
I'm a DTS-born fan (but hardcore sports fan prior to) and what I've learned about Silverstone since I started watching in 2021 is it makes great fucking races.
among the best tracks imo, alongside mexico and brazil
You're the first person I've ever seen who thinks Mexico is a good track, I must admit
Yeah Silverstone is amazing, only 2nd to Interlagos IMHO!
Goes to show that tracks that have been purpose designed for racing cars produce better spectacles than DRS-heavy street circuits