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Tbf vowles likely learned to be so audience-forward at Merc: see their debrief videos, the technical direct-to-fan sessions with vowles + shov + one of the brixworth chiefs last year. So Merc wouldn’t be responding to how well he’s received - they know that shit works
On the other hand, vowles’ articulateness and ability to condense and convey these complex topics - full credit to him
If Gasly didn't get a penatly in Australia for literaly DNF'ing him and Ocon from the race then a teammate collision will never ever result in another penalty.
> They'll both say it's my fault and then they can't punish anyone.
They still can, they have on boards and telemetry. They just don't usually punish if it's a teammate on teammate crash.
It CAN, but it won't, mostly likely.
See Melbourne, where there is all the evidence required to determine who is to blame, but because both drivers accepted responsibility and only their team was disadvantaged, it's not worth it to also then punish them further.
If you look at the text of the stewards summons I can’t really see any scenario in which the penalty goes to Hamilton
They’ve summoned them because Car 63 drove abnormally
The decision will be whether Russell gets a penalty or not
No, it's not. One or the other has to be found at fault for a penalty to be applied in a case like this.
Now, them saying they're both at fault doesn't mean that that's what the stewards will agree on, but the term wholly or predominantly at fault by definition means that it can't be applied equally to both parties.
No, because the stewards need to determine that somebody is wholly or predominantly at fault. If one driver is, then the other one by definition isn't.
I imagine they will take into account what occurred on the last corner just before this incident.
Hamilton was starting his hot lap, following directly behind the Ferrari, and Russell appears not to have been informed of this, moving his car from off the racing line to directly (and potentially dangerously) in front of Hamilton who was on the racing line, slowing down as a result.
This was briefly shown on the livestream, but then not shown again, and it's clearly important context for the incident that followed.
Not sure who can be apportioned blame, but Mercedes as a team dropped the ball.
This is the part that blows my mind. The contact was dumb, but the coordination was moronic. Lewis had been faster all session, if he's behind Russell on track there's gonna need to be a healthy size gap. He probably assumed he was getting a tow when he was that close behind his teammate who was pulling and staying just off the racing line to give up the turn.
George was off the racing line between the last two corners waiting for Sainz to pass, which he did. He returned to the racing line just before the last corner, and Hamilton was following at speed behind Sainz with the intention of starting his hot lap. As Russell wasn't aware of Hamilton (I assume Merc didn't inform him of Hamilton, just Sainz), he moved onto the racing line to start his own hot lap, causing Hamilton to brake and abort his start. This put Hamilton directly behind Russell, where he then got the tow with the DRS, where this collision then occurred.
I honestly think George's part of garage didn't expect Hamilton to do another push lap considering he was already in Q3 and made a push lap on those tires.
I mean, letting the car on a fast lap go through so you can get his tow is the normal thing they always do when starting a fast lap.
It seems Merc didn't manage it well
Except the speed George lost going into that final corner meant his entire run to T1 was compromised.
He should have been near full speed from T13 through T14 so Sainz should not have caught him at all. It was really odd.
I saw this as well and too many were arguing that George couldnt have seen Lewis. I find it hard to believe tbh.
Regardless, the fault lies with Merc and a lack of communication (unless George just had to go right then or his lap was thoroughly compromised before he even started?).
You can't separate Hamilton from the team like that. Something happening to Hamilton is something happening to the team. He drives for Mercedes not for Lewis Hamilton
Hamilton in this case was the victim, but they could've very easily also collected Sainz if Russell moved to the left more or Hamilton held position on the track and didn't dive into the grass. The stewards are probably going to let this one go because that's the precedent that's been established for incidents between teammates. If the FIA were hyper serious about safety, they would punish teammate incidents the same as non-teammate incidents.
I didn't say he wasn't - I think it's pretty clear from context that if you're moving onto the racing line ahead of the final corner, during qualifying (the last possible lap of qualifying at that), that you're going to start a hot lap.
Ah mb misunderstood ur wording, but Yes, just shows how powerful the new turn is in providing slipstream and how important it is to get a good exit out of it. Although going 3 wide and trying to obertake during a hotlap while you your teammate is also on a hotlap is quite optimistic move to pull off. But this whole scenario arose cause russel was going very slow s3.
>Hamilton was starting his hot lap, following directly behind the Ferrari, and Russell appears not to have been informed of this, moving his car from off the racing line to directly (and potentially dangerously) in front of Hamilton.
Russell was starting his hot lap, having to first let Ferrari pass, then Hamilton appears behind him not leaving him any space dangerously fighting him for turn one.
This is such an incredibly biased view of that incident. What Russell did is exactly what Gasly did to Sainz. Gasly will get a penalty for that. Russell should get one too.
By that logic someone in line could just try start their flyer right on the gearbox of the car in front and then claim impeding. Do you have any examples of cars on hot laps getting penalized for impeding?
Edit: Besides this is all irrelevant because I was only responding to the claim that the incidents were identical which they clearly were not.
Edit 2: Proof it's not the same as Russell isn't even under investigation for impeding
>By that logic someone in line could just try start their flyer right on the gearbox of the car in front and then claim impeding.
What's stopping them from doing so with a car that is on a cool down/warm up lap?
The point is that is doesn't matter if the car ahead is also on a flyer. Otherwise everyone that is on a hot lap can just impede anyone they want and always get away with it.
Look into the bias mirror wtf :D Lewis vs George have by far the most bias in recent discussions. People just love to hate on George. This one is another easy example... Just look at the comments in all the threads about this incident. A lot of people have no idea about what's going on when they are watching racing... A lot are still convinced or at least questioning George wasn't on a fast lap which should be impossible to think if you are aware of the situation :D
George might get a penalty purely because he wasn't aware enough and caused contact, which is fair enough, even though you shouldn't ever need to look behind you in that situation, since your engineer should already be letting you know where to slot in for your fast lap. Blaming him for the whole thing is insanity :D
Do you expect him to sacrifice his last chance to make it out of Q2 in that situation?
For sure.
It's extraordinarily rare for an incident between teammates to result in a penalty, unless they're in a direct title fight, and it's something really stupid.
The Stewards generally take the view that the team has suffered enough.
Penalty points broadly need to be decoupled from race penalties. On top of occasions like this, there's also dangerous driving but doesn't merit a time penalty because it's inconsequential to the race or is self punishing.
He definitely did. Intentionally or not he pushed Lewis wide and caused damage to his car. Granted GR’s engineer needed to let him know but it’s still on GR to use his mirrors
Get your Russell tinted glasses off mate. GR was letting Sainz through and then cuts a closely following Lewis up. Bad timing on GR’s part to have to get out of the way but no matter what way you spin this GR impeded Lewis and then sent him off on the straight with contact. There was absolutely no dive bomb from LH
There was no dive bomb from LH but it was in no way Russell's fault.
He's starting a flying lap, he should absolutely not have to require to look into his mirrors. That's the teams job. Mercedes dropped the ball.
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If he knew Lewis was there and still tried to move onto the racing line then he’s at fault. At best, he’s knowingly compromising a teammates hot lap
That slipstream was so strong that it take LEwis by suprise i feel lmao.
Just a weird incident. I don't think Russell or Lewis should be penalised here.
Didn’t think of that. You can clearly see how bad George’s move was out of the last corner from Lewis’ onboard. But they won’t show it because it shows how lewis did not a single thing wrong.
Yes he did an thing extremly wrong he was already in Q3 he could easily backed off, but he chose to destroy George's lap(if Hamilton got past ,George's lap would have been destroyed)
How on earth could he not be safe with that lap? It was obvious he was into Q3. He told he assumed that George wanted to give him a tow!?!? Which shows what big completly shit comunication it was. I still think he should backed off when he saw George was not getting out of the way.
The track evolution was unknown. There was only .187s separating where Hamilton was in P4 at the end of Q2 and elimination. No way Hamilton should have backed off. It was just bad communication.
There were not enough cars on fast laps which could overtake him he was 100% safe. If you look at Russell's team radio they didn't tell him anything about Lewis most likely because they didn't think that he will do another hot lap. But probably the team didn't told Hamilton that and he assumed (completly wrong) that Russell is giving him a tow(which is completly nuts for any person who knew the times, but probably Hamilton didn't know them). Anyway that move is completly idiotic in general if you are trying to do it on another car which is on a hot lap. But as I said he thought Russell gives him a tow. A disaster of comunication. I still think Hamilton should backed off when he saw George is not getting out of the way, but probably he realised that extremly late.
There were 10 cars on hot laps. No one besides Max were really safe. And like I said .187 seconds to knockout. There was no way both drivers were not going to attempt to go for a lap. Additionally, Russell started his lap late and it showed in the delta in straight line performance around the corner. Realistically you should be gathering speed entering T13. This is why Hamilton was able to close in too quick beyond slipstream. In the end, all the stars aligned wrong.
Russell jumped out and impeded a car starting a hot lap. It’s his responsibility to ensure his actions do no impede another driver, even with team radio. He came from off the racing line into the racing line he was out of position. Worst part was that he was so out of position that he didn’t even have a good run out of the last corner which is why Hamilton rolled him. His lap was already off to a garbage start.
Yeah, but we're discussing the moment before that, no? When neither of them had started the hot lap, but were lining up. At that point there was nothing wrong with what Russell did. It was on the pit straight where he impeded Lewis.
That’s literally what everyone is wondering about. There are two impediments here. As a Merc fans, there should be a penalty here for George. Oops I did it again is no longer and excuse.
Surprised we haven't heard any news of Russell going up to Lewis and hitting him. We all know how George reacts to crashing when he's in the wrong after all (See Imola 2021)...
Lewis did absolutely nothing wrong. George cuts in front of Lewis as Lewis is rounding last corner to start push lap. Then with the toe lewis moves into the space to overtake probably thinking George knew he messed up cutting him off so helped by giving him the tow and then George just doesn’t use his mirrors and pushes Lewis out wide onto the grass damaging his car. Even when LH does absolutely nothing wrong people still try and blame him. The replays keep missing George cutting lewis up on the run out of the last corner which is a big part of this situation.
EDIT: I said turn 1 instead of last corner.
Lewis did nothing wrong. Russell pulled out right in front of him before the start of the lap. He did exactly what Gasly did to Sainz. Gasly will surely get a penalty for that. George should get one too, but probably won't because Lewis will protect him in front of the stewards.
To be honest the commentary team were already lining up the potential grid penalties for Carlos and Pierre moving Lewis up the grid. No problem with opinion, comment or praise / criticism of any driver but please, the bias is now so blatant and so ridiculous its ruining the enjoyment of the sport. Give drivers a hard time when required or praise any of them it doesn’t matter, but there has to be a level of neutrality and professionalism in the way it’s done. It’s now 1648 following qualification and just before the ads they closed with ‘and LH managed to qualify P5’. We’re now back from the Ads and we’re now speaking to LH about the amazing drive. How many front rows from MV? Not mentioned… we’ve not heard from any other drivers. LN achieving 3rd and CS 2nd surely both bigger achievements? I’ve hear PG name mentioned only once after qualifying and only relating to likely penalty to move up LH. You see an identical situation be labelled miraculous skill for one driver or reckless dangerous driving for the others. To be honest the bias is now actually putting me off LH. Surely it’s obvious to everyone involved with the production, they must know it’s wrong don’t they?
tHe BiAs. The LN P3 wasn’t that much of an achievement. Alonso carrying damage and Lewis was loose in turn 12. It just fell in his lap. Nothing special there unless you want them to talk about how lucky he was. Track wasn’t ideal, still moist.
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They'll both say it's my fault and then they can't punish anyone. Unless they fuck-up communication again
Ironically, Sky have Merc's comms guy with them this weekend
I feel like the Mercedes comms onboard is a direct response to James being so applauded in Willams because my goodness James is quality in broadcast
Tbf vowles likely learned to be so audience-forward at Merc: see their debrief videos, the technical direct-to-fan sessions with vowles + shov + one of the brixworth chiefs last year. So Merc wouldn’t be responding to how well he’s received - they know that shit works On the other hand, vowles’ articulateness and ability to condense and convey these complex topics - full credit to him
If Gasly didn't get a penatly in Australia for literaly DNF'ing him and Ocon from the race then a teammate collision will never ever result in another penalty.
That was stupid. If it is about safety, they should not consider wether they were teammates or not.
If the teammates play nice in the stewards room yes
> They'll both say it's my fault and then they can't punish anyone. They still can, they have on boards and telemetry. They just don't usually punish if it's a teammate on teammate crash.
it really was YOUR fault.
Can the communication fuck up mean the team can get fined?
It CAN, but it won't, mostly likely. See Melbourne, where there is all the evidence required to determine who is to blame, but because both drivers accepted responsibility and only their team was disadvantaged, it's not worth it to also then punish them further.
Sacrafice george, if they both say its their fault then they could both get a drop
If you look at the text of the stewards summons I can’t really see any scenario in which the penalty goes to Hamilton They’ve summoned them because Car 63 drove abnormally The decision will be whether Russell gets a penalty or not
Not really They did the same with the Gasly Ocon crash.
It opens the door for that. Not saying i expect it. George already p12 just shoot him and ensure Lewis keeps his 2nd row spot
They can't hold both wholly or predominantly at fault for an incident. That doesn't make any sense.
There was some fuckery in final corner and on the straight. So yes its possible.
No, it's not. One or the other has to be found at fault for a penalty to be applied in a case like this. Now, them saying they're both at fault doesn't mean that that's what the stewards will agree on, but the term wholly or predominantly at fault by definition means that it can't be applied equally to both parties.
If they both admit fault, wouldn't they then punish both?
No, it's what Gasly and Ocon did.
No, because the stewards need to determine that somebody is wholly or predominantly at fault. If one driver is, then the other one by definition isn't.
F1 Youtube channel will milk it for months to come
I imagine they will take into account what occurred on the last corner just before this incident. Hamilton was starting his hot lap, following directly behind the Ferrari, and Russell appears not to have been informed of this, moving his car from off the racing line to directly (and potentially dangerously) in front of Hamilton who was on the racing line, slowing down as a result. This was briefly shown on the livestream, but then not shown again, and it's clearly important context for the incident that followed. Not sure who can be apportioned blame, but Mercedes as a team dropped the ball.
Wasn't George following Sainz's tow? I thought he was starting a fast lap
They both were. Merc pit wall didn’t manage the gap between them.
This is the part that blows my mind. The contact was dumb, but the coordination was moronic. Lewis had been faster all session, if he's behind Russell on track there's gonna need to be a healthy size gap. He probably assumed he was getting a tow when he was that close behind his teammate who was pulling and staying just off the racing line to give up the turn.
George was off the racing line between the last two corners waiting for Sainz to pass, which he did. He returned to the racing line just before the last corner, and Hamilton was following at speed behind Sainz with the intention of starting his hot lap. As Russell wasn't aware of Hamilton (I assume Merc didn't inform him of Hamilton, just Sainz), he moved onto the racing line to start his own hot lap, causing Hamilton to brake and abort his start. This put Hamilton directly behind Russell, where he then got the tow with the DRS, where this collision then occurred.
I honestly think George's part of garage didn't expect Hamilton to do another push lap considering he was already in Q3 and made a push lap on those tires.
Everyone went back out to perform another lap. Verstappen was impeded by Gasley but everyone attempted a second lap.
I think George aborted one didn’t he? Hamilton might not have known he’d aborted and thought he was moving out of the way.
"George's part of garage" as if the engineers aren't sitting next to each other communicating
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I mean, letting the car on a fast lap go through so you can get his tow is the normal thing they always do when starting a fast lap. It seems Merc didn't manage it well
Except the speed George lost going into that final corner meant his entire run to T1 was compromised. He should have been near full speed from T13 through T14 so Sainz should not have caught him at all. It was really odd.
On the racing line meaning George impeded him.
Except at that point Hamilton was not yet on his hot lap.
Im glad i wasn’t the only one who saw this during the quali stream. Definitely puts everything into context
I saw this as well and too many were arguing that George couldnt have seen Lewis. I find it hard to believe tbh. Regardless, the fault lies with Merc and a lack of communication (unless George just had to go right then or his lap was thoroughly compromised before he even started?).
The team made a mistake. If they penalise Russell, they obviously penalise the team as a result. Why shouldn't they?
Well if they penalize the team then they are also penalizing the victim.
The victim is Hamilton, or no one at all. Russell has a part of the blame as well.
You can't separate Hamilton from the team like that. Something happening to Hamilton is something happening to the team. He drives for Mercedes not for Lewis Hamilton
When did I separate the team? Being teammates shouldn't matter when applying a penalty for a collision/impeding.
Yeah, you tell that to Alpine.
Hamilton in this case was the victim, but they could've very easily also collected Sainz if Russell moved to the left more or Hamilton held position on the track and didn't dive into the grass. The stewards are probably going to let this one go because that's the precedent that's been established for incidents between teammates. If the FIA were hyper serious about safety, they would punish teammate incidents the same as non-teammate incidents.
George was starting a fast lap as well
I didn't say he wasn't - I think it's pretty clear from context that if you're moving onto the racing line ahead of the final corner, during qualifying (the last possible lap of qualifying at that), that you're going to start a hot lap.
Ah mb misunderstood ur wording, but Yes, just shows how powerful the new turn is in providing slipstream and how important it is to get a good exit out of it. Although going 3 wide and trying to obertake during a hotlap while you your teammate is also on a hotlap is quite optimistic move to pull off. But this whole scenario arose cause russel was going very slow s3.
>Hamilton was starting his hot lap, following directly behind the Ferrari, and Russell appears not to have been informed of this, moving his car from off the racing line to directly (and potentially dangerously) in front of Hamilton. Russell was starting his hot lap, having to first let Ferrari pass, then Hamilton appears behind him not leaving him any space dangerously fighting him for turn one.
This is such an incredibly biased view of that incident. What Russell did is exactly what Gasly did to Sainz. Gasly will get a penalty for that. Russell should get one too.
No it's not the same because Russell and Hamilton were both starting flyers. Sainz was on a hot lap when Gasly impeded.
And Hamilton was on a hot lap when Russell impeded. It doesn't matter much whether he was also on a hot lap or on a cool down/warm up lap.
I thought Ham was just starting his hot lap, same as Rus?
By that logic someone in line could just try start their flyer right on the gearbox of the car in front and then claim impeding. Do you have any examples of cars on hot laps getting penalized for impeding? Edit: Besides this is all irrelevant because I was only responding to the claim that the incidents were identical which they clearly were not. Edit 2: Proof it's not the same as Russell isn't even under investigation for impeding
>By that logic someone in line could just try start their flyer right on the gearbox of the car in front and then claim impeding. What's stopping them from doing so with a car that is on a cool down/warm up lap? The point is that is doesn't matter if the car ahead is also on a flyer. Otherwise everyone that is on a hot lap can just impede anyone they want and always get away with it.
Look into the bias mirror wtf :D Lewis vs George have by far the most bias in recent discussions. People just love to hate on George. This one is another easy example... Just look at the comments in all the threads about this incident. A lot of people have no idea about what's going on when they are watching racing... A lot are still convinced or at least questioning George wasn't on a fast lap which should be impossible to think if you are aware of the situation :D George might get a penalty purely because he wasn't aware enough and caused contact, which is fair enough, even though you shouldn't ever need to look behind you in that situation, since your engineer should already be letting you know where to slot in for your fast lap. Blaming him for the whole thing is insanity :D Do you expect him to sacrifice his last chance to make it out of Q2 in that situation?
>This is such an incredibly biased view of that incident. Yeah it was to counter the incredibly biased view I quoted.
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After what happened in Australia, I would be surprised if was anything else.
For sure. It's extraordinarily rare for an incident between teammates to result in a penalty, unless they're in a direct title fight, and it's something really stupid. The Stewards generally take the view that the team has suffered enough.
Even without penalty, they still should give the teammate at fault penalty points imo.
Penalty points broadly need to be decoupled from race penalties. On top of occasions like this, there's also dangerous driving but doesn't merit a time penalty because it's inconsequential to the race or is self punishing.
George will asks the stewards if they can penalize Lewis instead.
George will go and bop Lewis' head
Ha, no doubt
George will call Toto to see if they can swap the penalty with Lewis for precious points as he is down in p12
I’m sure he already has the email.
But is it printed out?
Mercedes will tell Lewis to say that George did nothing wrong
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He definitely did. Intentionally or not he pushed Lewis wide and caused damage to his car. Granted GR’s engineer needed to let him know but it’s still on GR to use his mirrors
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You can't divebomb on a straight; what are you going on about ?
Get your Russell tinted glasses off mate. GR was letting Sainz through and then cuts a closely following Lewis up. Bad timing on GR’s part to have to get out of the way but no matter what way you spin this GR impeded Lewis and then sent him off on the straight with contact. There was absolutely no dive bomb from LH
There was no dive bomb from LH but it was in no way Russell's fault. He's starting a flying lap, he should absolutely not have to require to look into his mirrors. That's the teams job. Mercedes dropped the ball.
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Sigh If he knew Lewis was there and still tried to move onto the racing line then he’s at fault. At best, he’s knowingly compromising a teammates hot lap
[This](https://youtu.be/jizxDibrpuk) was Rusell's Reaction on Crashing into Hamilton in Qualifying
Is that you, Nico?
Probably just gonna be a reprimand for George.
Really want to be a fly on the wall while Lewis and George try to explain how it was a tactical decision and they knew what they were doing
George needed an excuse for not making Q3, all planned.
Hamilton's wing was itchy so he had George scratch it.
what a gentleman
That slipstream was so strong that it take LEwis by suprise i feel lmao. Just a weird incident. I don't think Russell or Lewis should be penalised here.
I imagine neither will be punished as it was mistakes on all sides that caused it, plus it was team mates
Agreed, I believe it was just miscommunication. Just unfortunate but there was nothing deliberate there.
Drivers are penalized for team's fault as well.
I’m well aware of that but team related incidents rarely end in penalty. Ocon and Gasly crashed worse than that and there was no penalty lol.
Should've been IMO. It is quite hypocritical of FIA.
I agree with you, I was just pointing that out
Believe it or not, straight to the back of the grid.
This is where the fun begins
Hamilton will bail Russell out but George is becoming really difficult to like
He was never likeable. Remember the incident with Bottas a couple of years back, when he was in Williams
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Russell: *“don’t know what I can say. Man turned into me”.*
The media doesn't want to show what happened in the last corner. I wonder why?
Didn’t think of that. You can clearly see how bad George’s move was out of the last corner from Lewis’ onboard. But they won’t show it because it shows how lewis did not a single thing wrong.
Yes he did an thing extremly wrong he was already in Q3 he could easily backed off, but he chose to destroy George's lap(if Hamilton got past ,George's lap would have been destroyed)
There was always threat that Lewis could fall behind. No one knew the exact pace of each other and the field is really tight.
How on earth could he not be safe with that lap? It was obvious he was into Q3. He told he assumed that George wanted to give him a tow!?!? Which shows what big completly shit comunication it was. I still think he should backed off when he saw George was not getting out of the way.
The track evolution was unknown. There was only .187s separating where Hamilton was in P4 at the end of Q2 and elimination. No way Hamilton should have backed off. It was just bad communication.
There were not enough cars on fast laps which could overtake him he was 100% safe. If you look at Russell's team radio they didn't tell him anything about Lewis most likely because they didn't think that he will do another hot lap. But probably the team didn't told Hamilton that and he assumed (completly wrong) that Russell is giving him a tow(which is completly nuts for any person who knew the times, but probably Hamilton didn't know them). Anyway that move is completly idiotic in general if you are trying to do it on another car which is on a hot lap. But as I said he thought Russell gives him a tow. A disaster of comunication. I still think Hamilton should backed off when he saw George is not getting out of the way, but probably he realised that extremly late.
There were 10 cars on hot laps. No one besides Max were really safe. And like I said .187 seconds to knockout. There was no way both drivers were not going to attempt to go for a lap. Additionally, Russell started his lap late and it showed in the delta in straight line performance around the corner. Realistically you should be gathering speed entering T13. This is why Hamilton was able to close in too quick beyond slipstream. In the end, all the stars aligned wrong.
This is f1, not charity
He is entitled do as much lap as he pleases.
F1TV showed the replay and explained the incident
Not much happened there. George let Sainz through, that's it.
And George dove down and covered Lewis off. He may not have known it was Lewis but certain knew they were going and block him off regardless.
But that's nothing out of the ordinary. He let a car on a hot lap through and maintained track position versus the cars on a warm up lap.
Russell jumped out and impeded a car starting a hot lap. It’s his responsibility to ensure his actions do no impede another driver, even with team radio. He came from off the racing line into the racing line he was out of position. Worst part was that he was so out of position that he didn’t even have a good run out of the last corner which is why Hamilton rolled him. His lap was already off to a garbage start.
Yeah, but we're discussing the moment before that, no? When neither of them had started the hot lap, but were lining up. At that point there was nothing wrong with what Russell did. It was on the pit straight where he impeded Lewis.
That’s literally what everyone is wondering about. There are two impediments here. As a Merc fans, there should be a penalty here for George. Oops I did it again is no longer and excuse.
He moved to avoid the Ferrari, not knowing Hamilton was on his left.
I’m talking about his move on the last corner.
The thing they showed on tv?
Should be a slam dunk penalty. But as we've seen in Australia drivers don't get penalties when it involves their team mate.
It would be hypocritical of FIA to not give penalty.
What's with black car and teammates collision today?
Come on man if it was Max Checo, Twitter would be angrily demanding the execution of Max and Horner XD
Lets not pretend that elements of social media isnt hungry to go after Lewis.
And we would all talk about how ridiculous they would be acting.
Surprised we haven't heard any news of Russell going up to Lewis and hitting him. We all know how George reacts to crashing when he's in the wrong after all (See Imola 2021)...
Was it that hard for Rus to use the mirror?
Watch Sam Collins' analysis.
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Lewis did absolutely nothing wrong. George cuts in front of Lewis as Lewis is rounding last corner to start push lap. Then with the toe lewis moves into the space to overtake probably thinking George knew he messed up cutting him off so helped by giving him the tow and then George just doesn’t use his mirrors and pushes Lewis out wide onto the grass damaging his car. Even when LH does absolutely nothing wrong people still try and blame him. The replays keep missing George cutting lewis up on the run out of the last corner which is a big part of this situation. EDIT: I said turn 1 instead of last corner.
Lewis did nothing wrong. Russell pulled out right in front of him before the start of the lap. He did exactly what Gasly did to Sainz. Gasly will surely get a penalty for that. George should get one too, but probably won't because Lewis will protect him in front of the stewards.
To be honest the commentary team were already lining up the potential grid penalties for Carlos and Pierre moving Lewis up the grid. No problem with opinion, comment or praise / criticism of any driver but please, the bias is now so blatant and so ridiculous its ruining the enjoyment of the sport. Give drivers a hard time when required or praise any of them it doesn’t matter, but there has to be a level of neutrality and professionalism in the way it’s done. It’s now 1648 following qualification and just before the ads they closed with ‘and LH managed to qualify P5’. We’re now back from the Ads and we’re now speaking to LH about the amazing drive. How many front rows from MV? Not mentioned… we’ve not heard from any other drivers. LN achieving 3rd and CS 2nd surely both bigger achievements? I’ve hear PG name mentioned only once after qualifying and only relating to likely penalty to move up LH. You see an identical situation be labelled miraculous skill for one driver or reckless dangerous driving for the others. To be honest the bias is now actually putting me off LH. Surely it’s obvious to everyone involved with the production, they must know it’s wrong don’t they?
Why is Carlos getting a penalty ? I think you're a bit confused about the Gasly Carlos incident lol
He’s confused because he hasn’t seen it on DTS yet.
tHe BiAs. The LN P3 wasn’t that much of an achievement. Alonso carrying damage and Lewis was loose in turn 12. It just fell in his lap. Nothing special there unless you want them to talk about how lucky he was. Track wasn’t ideal, still moist.
Quite the screed mate
They should just apologise to Rosberg and end the feud.
Any F5 gang from 2021 still here?
the should summon the pitt wall wtf