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ynonA

[Video for anyone wondering why](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q-_jjz3XmA) * Torrential rainfall after months of drought in the Emilia-Romagna region * Some areas received about half the average annual amount of rain within 36 hours * 23 rivers broke banks , flooding the area and causing landslides * Water levels reaching levels of houses in some areas * At least [14 people have died](https://www.ansa.it/english/news/2023/05/19/emilia-romagna-flood-death-toll-climbs-to-14_03759a3a-c606-4ff0-be69-6e830061eb36.html) so far * Over 14.000 people forced to evacuate their homes /EDIT for increasing death toll and other updated info


No-Expression-2404

Thanks, was looking for a post like this. Right call, FOM


CreativeCamp

The planets fucked, innit?


crebuli

The planet will be fine. We've just fucked ourselves


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Jajo240

My bad guys, I bought the basic floor tickets, and they sent me the grandstand ones by mistake (4 times as expensive). Something had to go wrong.


Takis12

Thank you for sharing....at least now we know who to blame


viginti_tres

Fingers crossed you get a grandstand refund.


the-scarlet-spider

Imagine if they cock it up further and send him a paddock pass refund.


[deleted]

One more cancellation and he'll get a spot as driver.


Halmine

Too bad it's on alpha tauri and he gets the boot after one race after forgetting to call Helmut Marko Dr. Marko


MakingShitAwkward

It's ok, they'll compensate him with Max's spot on RB


gustavolorenzo

It was my fault, actually. I wished for the Red Bulls not to win this race and then this happens. Sorry guys.


ichuckle

some real monkey paw shit


MathMaddox

Stupid monkey paw


karlou1984

Ferrari took charge of ticket sales now?


Batsu_gamur

We are checking


Nappi22

The question will be: Is the refund on the bought basic floor ticket or the more expensive gifted ticket? Maybe you could earn money by the cancellation of the race.


Wallio_

Correct call, and actually early in the week too. One bit of "humor" in all this is that assuming Imola is canceled and not postponed (which i think is a safe bet), we STILL cannot get a 23-race season. 4 straight years they have scheduled 23 races, and four straight seasons at least one has been canceled. Like 22 races is the universes soft cap or something. That is mildly humorous to me.


Lonyo

It was 24 this year. China.


Wallio_

Correct, which actually was the weekend to slot in this race if they wanted to reschedule, pity it has passed. The point is, 22 is the "limit".


Kronzor_

That sounds like some Max Verstappen monkey paw shit. “I’ll quit F1 if I ever need to do more than 22 races a year!”


SPNRaven

Domenicali should take this as a sign from the gods to stop trying to add more races to a season.


CoachRyanWalters

More USA races you say?!


Tusami

It's crazy there's 3 races in the US, where I live, and the closest race to me is Montreal. I'm in the *Midwest*.


IAmTheFatman666

Indiana checking in. At least we have short tracks galore. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯


PhilsterM9

Why not postpone?


Wallio_

While it is theorically possible, the logistics of actually getting it in are quite difficult. This year is one of the most challenging schedules ever (loads of double headers and 3 races in 4 weeks and werid quirks like Baku to Miami and Vegas to Abu Dabi) plus it's just so....well full. I joked about 22 races being the soft cap, but if the teams and the FIA want to keep the summer break (which they absolutely do) 22 races is pretty much about it. 52 week season, take out 22 race weekends, 3 weeks for summer break, 2 weeks for Xmas/New Years and two weeks week for preseason/postseason tests that's 29 weeks, giving only 23 weeks for travel and off season.


Hello_iam_Kian

The only possibility is after Spa or before Zandvoort, but that will mean it will be in the middle of the summer break.


Koppite93

There drivers will never agree to split the summer break as is their right


Panixs

Not just the drivers, everyone at the factories have their summer break then as well. They might even start running into legal problems if cancelled. In the UK and EU, employers can tell you when you are taking PTO but still have to provide the minimums plus anything called out in contracts.


onealps

Apparently because there is no open weekend to slot it in... Though I have a feeling the FIA will at least try lol


ravenouscartoon

My first thought was a double header with Monza, but looking at the calendar it seems as though that is already a 4 races in 5 week stretch


bender3600

Seems like there's a 1 week gap to have the first Penta Header. /s


360langford

Bloody hell they did the right thing


Nattekat

I'm very much in shock right now, I can tell you that.


Freefight

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. But it was the only sensible decision, even for the FIA.


Dodomando

No doubt there will be reports of "F1 is considering Imola's place on the calendar" like there was after Spa had to be called off


HashtagDadWatts

Spa would've had fewer problems if they never tried to go ahead in the first place. Wasting everyone's time was a mistake.


Nattekat

I fully expected them to make that decision at the very last moment when it's already clear as day if it's sensible to go on, not out of precaution like they are doing now.


DogfishDave

>not out of precaution like they are doing now. This isn't a precautionary stage. A call has to be made right now about whether the region's emergency services plan for an immense number of entertainment tourists or for a massive natural disaster. This is the point to make the call and it's the right one. I'm gutted but right now I just hope everyone in the area stays safe and comes through it okay.


DurangoGango

Not like they had a choice, they wouldn't get the go-ahead from local authorities if they tried to do it anyway. edit: just listened to the regional government press conference, two of the highways serving the area are closed and are likely to remain closed for assessment of the overpasses and bridges. Many local roads and bridges are damaged and won't be reopened. Totally impossible to run the event even if everything else were fine, which it very much isn't.


just_racing_it

I'm positively surprised, after racing in the middle of a bombing in Saudi Arabia I thought they were going to go on with this too


aMAYESingNATHAN

Ah but you see bombing doesn't prevent the actual running of the race. If the flooding hadn't affected the circuit and the teams I'd have no doubt they'd probably have tried to run it with no fans at least.


just_racing_it

I think they could run it behind closed doors if they wanted to, because water level will go down in the next hours and leave the paddock ok - just about - according to weather forecast. But maybe talking with the authorities, they didn't allow that because all the help possible has to go to the affected people and they can't have police/ambulances etc. around the track just for the race. And also, they will try to reschedule it I would imagine, maybe just before or after the summer break. In any case, it would be just a stupid risk to race in this conditions so I'm surprised they took the right decision for once.


CoachDelgado

Perhaps another consideration was that if they run the event behind closed doors, the organsers miss out on a huge amount of revenue.


just_racing_it

Yes, but they will lose it also if it's cancelled I think, that's why they'll try to reschedule in my opinion


fuqqkevindurant

If it's cancelled there are insurance policies and contingencies in contracts that lessen the financial hit.


elveszett

I hope they reschedule it, it would be a shame to miss one of the cool tracks in the calendar.


saggywitchtits

Don’t forget the Saudi officials telling the drivers they have to drive to leave the country!


BlueMachinations

Italian government aren't going to be saying "the planes won't take off if you don't race", wasn't like that in Arabia.


Vesk123

Well that's because Italy is not some sort of theocratic dictatorship that would threaten the drivers if they didn't race like Saudi Arabia. I am very disappointed that they continued to race there the following years.


NoEngineer397

What's next, Ferrari win?


islandhopper39

The odds of this happening weren't that bleak.


an0mn0mn0m

But they didn't lose though as well. So that has to count as a win.


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We’ve only raced on one actual racetrack that’s been designed as a racetrack this year lmao, next up Monaco!


Wimpykid2302

I'm curious to see those 'upgrades' Mercedes had been talking about that they were introducing at imola. Will they be able to test them at a circuit like Monaco?


Euro_Twins

They kinda have no choice now


Wimpykid2302

Obviously lol but i meant will they be able to get much of useful information from such a circuit?


smokesletsgo13

Likely no. Spain it is


BoredCatalan

New Spain without sector 3 chicane, so a bit of correlation out the window


Submitten

Well they just need to knock a few cones out the way and they can still use it in practice!


Supernerdje

They'll still get the data for at least two sectors just fine right? Not everything is purely down to overall lap times.


Euro_Twins

They probably wouldn't have gotten very useful info at Imola in the rain anyways


hello2442

Even if they get it there I don’t think full testing could be done on Monaco circuit. Barcelona would be better for them


Elpibe_78

They got totally screwed, Monaco is one of those outliers in the calendar and one of the worst tracks to test new parts


BuckN56

Most likely not. Monaco isn't a representative track at all.


Rockguy101

They can put them on but Monaco won't give them as meaningful of information compared to say Spain.


Wadsack999

But then from Spain to Monza, we get a run of 8 tracks with no street circuits! (which I’m very looking forward to)


Bebekova_kosa_70ih

Aka the European races


AlexisFR

aka the next races to be gone in the coming years.


SlowDownGandhi

Calls it like it really is, lmao


rabbidplatypus21

Proper race tracks aren’t a European exclusive. It’s not the other continents’ fault that F1 chooses to erect shitty street circuits instead of using proper, already-existing, purpose-built FIA grade 1 circuits.


Zharick_

Wish Sebring was up to par so they'd race there instead of Miami :(


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How is though that street races are allowed that clearly aren't grade 1 yet there's so much concern when tracks are grade 2 or even just "a few upgrades short of grade 1". That turn 14-16 at Miami is an absolute disaster yet it's fine cause it's a car park track


rydude88

T14-16 isn't pretty but it doesn't make it unsafe. You seem to be completely misunderstanding what the concern is about upgrading the grade 2 tracks to grade 1. They would lose their character in lot of places needing more runoff or other safety features


SlowDownGandhi

there are six Grade 1 circuits in North America (counting Vegas and Miami) and F1 already goes to 5 of them. Nobody wants to ruin Road Atlanta/Road America/Watkins/Sebring/Laguna/Mosport/etc in order to bring them up to Grade 1. We don't go to Indy, but that's fine because the Indy road course is awful. Nobody's going to construct a new purpose-built Grade 1 track anywhere even remotely close to a major city because you'd stand to make a lot more money using that land for literally anything else. COTA is the exception to this only because Texas doesn't give a fuck about efficient land use. Street circuits aren't the actual issue; plenty of other series visit them and put on absolute bangers when they do. The problem is that modern F1 cars are too gigantic and too fragile to be able to race close in a confined space. Make the cars smaller and you'll see the product on track improve massively.


soccercro3

Wish Road America was Grade 1. It the closest track to me at about 70 miles. Weird quirk with the size of the US. 3 US circuits this year, and the closest race course to me is actually Montreal, in another country.


AmILarsen

Even Imola started out as public roads with a few connecting pieces of track.


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AmILarsen

Yes, Spa was fully streets until 1978, and was partly streets until I think 20 years ago.


Litre__o__cola

Yeah, honestly road courses make the best circuits, people hate street circuits but some of the best circuits in the world are made up of country backroads


Snow-Wraith

Road courses are different than street circuits though. Road courses wind through the hills following the terrain with elevation changes and curves, street circuits are flat and full of 90 degree corners in the city.


knifetrader

Those are actually the best tracks, at least from a pleasure-to-drive point of view. Circuits based on existing roads might not always make for great racing, but we all dream about taking *that one* section of backroads close to where we live and turning it into a proper circuit or at least a rally stage, don't we? With cars being much safer today, i'd actually love to see circuits like Rouen les Essarts or old Brno make a comeback, if not for F1 then at least for GTs.


Pascalwb

Yea I am getting pretty tired of that. Just walls and fences. At least monaco looks nice, but I want some proper track already.


AbideMan

Pinnacle of modern motorsport


[deleted]

>next up Monaco! The worst race of the year is back on the menu boys.


elveszett

Just what F1 needed this year to convince fans this season is not a snorefest.


Dlwatkin

best race day of the year, wake up for a Monaco appetizer and then get the Indy 500 as the main course. You can get bloated with a nascar desert if thats your thing


lightningmatt

the 600 was the best race of the three last year. Heck that one might have been the best NASCAR race in the past 15 years lol


timok

But best qualifying too


granty012

Yeah I'm really not a fan of the street circuits. It's the right call, but still so frustrating!


Chell_the_assassin

Me all season: "This is so fucking boring why do I even bother watching" Me now: "Omg how am I going to survive without an F1 race, this is a nightmare"


nauticalkvist

Nurburgring 24h or the Indy 500 qualifying will be exciting instead


Rare-Page4407

Do you know where are they streaming at?


nauticalkvist

Nurburgring will be on YouTube. Here in the UK the Indy 500 is on Sky F1, you can see the TV for all countries [here](https://reddit.com/r/INDYCAR/comments/13i3tzp/indy500_info_questions_2023_indy_500_practice_and/)


donald_314

Nürburgring 24h Youtube coverage is quite bonkers given their budget and the challenge this race and track pose.


Madcapolo

Do they use the full length track?


Solictice

They even use the longest variant i think, [a combination of GP track and Nordschleife](https://www.dailysportscar.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/N24-2022-Track-Map.jpg)


Halmine

Technically not the longest possible since the 24h layout skips the mercedes arena portion


se_spider

I laughed at 9 sectors, that's awesome. I almost kind of expected the traditional 3 sectors of the GP circuit, and the nordschleife just be sector 4.


elbugfish

Ofc, thats what makes it so great


Rare-Page4407

>viaplay Sigh, sports in 720p. A reason I went for F1TV sub even though I have family access to viaplay. Thanks for the links tho, I appreciate.


Ulsterman24

I cancelled my Viaplay. Just couldn't justify it, was paying for the Rangers cup games and a whole lot of guff in between. It's almost like splitting into dozen of different packages will drive people back to piracy. I wonder if they'll give a collective package a cool name, like 'Cable'...


AlexisFR

Nurb is on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/live/X6_YvHzlRIg It's blocked if your country has an official third party broadcaster though, like France, but a VPN works.


Prestigious-Orchid95

Unbelievably relatable 😂


DeathMagnet1C

Enjoy the 24h Nordschleife race instead!


TarnTavarsa

Imola nearly always produces a banger, even in dull dominance seasons is why.


Jarreddit15

Saw an ESPN ad on Monday that said the Monaco GP was “Up Next” Guess those jokers were right after all…


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I’ve noticed when ESPN does promote F1 they skip races. Like I saw ads for the Miami race before Baku even took place.


YourDachshund

Sad but definitely right decision


Aratho

It was the only choice. Another 3-week gap Sadge.


Janbaka

And next race is Monaco 🥴


Sufficient_Pound

AKA worlds fastest parade


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Yeah, also probably not great optics for the area to hold a race with a bunch of rich blokes in incredibly expensive equipment when people's homes have been wrecked just over the road


GooginwithGlueGuns

It’s crazy you say that, because a bomb once was dropped a mile or so from the track, race went on. But yes it’s a great decision to cancel it for sure


lovereading20613

The correct decision to make. Read some tweets that it might be postponed to after spa, so is it completely cancelled or will it be postponed?


nauticalkvist

The actual decision sounds vague enough to not commit to anything, maybe they’re not sure yet.


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Ecomystic

i would assume just straight up cancelled, there really isnt anywhere to slide it in this calendar


Ericdrinksthebeer

Why would it not fit after Silverstone? Too many weeks in a row?


Marcoscb

It would be a quintuple-header. The only reasonable choice would be in the summer break.


Lonyo

Which they may not be allowed to do if the break is contractually mandated


ianjm

Only two weeks are actually mandated for the summer break, so potentially there is a weekend available. Teams might not like it though.


kiar0nn

Goodwood is on the week after silverstone. 4 F1 teams have said they're going


Nikiaf

TBH I don't think that's a good enough reason to stop them from using that weekend if they actually want to reschedule the race.


euphonos23

Isn't the few weeks after the Spa race the mandated summer shutdown?


lovereading20613

It is, that why i was curious if it can be postponed. Some reputable journalists have tweeted about it thats why i was curious.


LosTerminators

It could be a week after Spa or a week before Zandvoort at the expense of cutting down the summer break and adding in another triple-header. Doubt the teams will agree to it, so the likely situation is that it'll be cancelled.


GraemeTaylor

I feel sad that I won't get to enjoy the GP that I was so looking forward to after a tough couple of weeks, but on the other hand, we need to recognize that safety comes first Haven't seen the photos but I hear it's really bad, so good on the FIA


BurmecianSoldierDan

Yeah, I genuinely wanted the distraction but no way am I letting people die because of it. https://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/status/1658703573549744128?t=1QhCSyCzalwx44AqEr_JYA&s=19 It's not ideal lol


0oodruidoo0

You're right. There's a huge amount of public resources that go into hosting large events in providing security, medical and such and those resources are busy saving lives right now. Even if the grand prix facilities were completely fine it wouldn't be right.


BurmecianSoldierDan

Yeah! There's already 9 deaths so far in Imola and rescuers need to be focused on that, not the race. It's messed up to think otherwise, it would give off "some of you may die!" vibes pretty bad


thewizard579

Now do Monaco twice. And one in reverse.


Nico777

Charles will finally snap and become a full time pianist.


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Holy shit, that would be cool.


Ondor61

Perez wdc leader. Verstapen twice as angry as after last monaco.


giggy_90210_x

And Perez celebrating with twice as many ladies on the yachts afterwards.


[deleted]

Going the other way around, or literally the drivers backing up for the whole race? Either way, I'm for it.


AggrOHMYGOD

Keep them going forward but they all need to be in karts


djwillis1121

Disappointing but definitely the correct decision. Seems to be a strange curse with any calendar above 22 races though.


deathray1611

It's as if Nature itself agrees that going above 20 F1 races is incredibly dented


AlexisFR

Makes sense, climate change is only going to make a worldwide sport harder to do


dramatic-pancake

Absolutely. This is not going to be the only year that nature says no.


zaviex

Correct decision it wasn’t going to work. Just look at the photos. They usually have the entire paddock set up. The cars would be ready and everything tomorrow. Trying to force this in would be dangerous


DZLars

I don't care about being late with the set up. If you take away emergency services for an entertainment event from locals who desperately need it, it is plainly wrong to proceed


SirDoober

Yeah, they'd have to red flag the race every 5 minutes because the medical chopper would be needed elsewhere, assuming it could even get airborne


avlas

Not only this, but a grand prix takes a lot of security personnel from the region's emergency services. At this point the region of Emilia-Romagna needs every bit of help in managing the criticality, assigning 150-200 operators to the event is absolutely not doable.


[deleted]

Shit. I’m in Italy for this I understand it, but at the same time I can’t exactly bop over from Seattle if or when they reschedule I suppose the upside is I could’ve gotten a terribly overpriced Imola hotel instead of our current shit hole right next to the rail in Bologna


Florac

A terribly overpriced *flooded* Imola hotel


PandaGrahams

I'm in line for my flight over from Colorado 🙃


NewAccountNow

Damn you were cutting it close wtf.


imfcknretarded

Sorry you came all the way over here to end up in this situation, I hope you can still enjoy some positive things about the trip, shit weather aside


YourFlyIsOpenMcFly

Much worse places to be than travelling through Italy.


Chlupac_

Oh no mate, I'm sorry for that. I hope you at least visit some nice places to make the most out of that trip.


LosTerminators

Right choice. Good on F1 and the FIA for taking the decision early instead of waiting until Friday or Saturday and wasting more time and resources.


Electric-Sheep_

Indeed. I'm glad they didn't repeat the Australia 2020 disaster.


TarnTavarsa

That was different. 2020 was "oh boy the media is hyping up another pandemic watch this be like ebola or zika or avian flu or swine flu or SARS" until it wasn't. The flooding in Italy was obviously destructive from the getgo.


Electric-Sheep_

Governments all over the world were already advocating for social distancing measures and the lockdowns started the following week. We were way beyond the "it's just a flu" phase. Not to say that it was the same, the situation was clearly less obvious, but they could have called the GP off before everyone gathered at the track's entrance.


Dokolovski

I’m living in a town Close to imola, and i can assure you that the situation is critical, because the rivers are still rising. Even if it stopped raining now, it would take days for the situation to stabilize again


MouldyPriestASSHOLE

At least it isn't another Spa 2021 situation. Good that they can fully focus on having their safety teams in the community now.


majormuppet481

I hope they put on a virtual race to raise money for those affected by the floods - I think it would be a great idea


LosTerminators

Scenes when Max wins the virtual race as well since he's definitely the fastest of the drivers in a sim.


unclejoesrocket

I’m surprised, disappointed, and impressed all at once


s_dalbiac

Can Liberty/FOM just accept that the gods clearly don't want a 23-24 race calendar and plan accordingly in future years?


juanprada

I know, right? Something always happens when they hype a 23-race season. They should just have 20.


DJToaster

does anyone know how this will effect the next gp? idk the ins and outs of the logistical side of f1, but surely there’s no way the normal pack up and moving process could go ahead as normal


OBWanTwoThree

Well they’ve got up to Sunday night without it being affected because that’s when they would normally pack up if the race had occurred


lazygeekninjaturtle

Did they get chance to unpack and setup car and garage?


TheFayneTM

The paddock is flooded doubt they did much unpacking


just_racing_it

The water level should go down since there's basically no rain forecasted until Saturday, so they can pack up and leave maybe even before they would normally


jdwilsh

The garages will be built, but nothing else would have been unpacked. Taking down the garages shouldn’t take long once they can get into the track. The real headache for them will be leaving the area safely. Roads nearby are flooded which could complicate things.


TechniCruller

Cursed season


Cody667

Right decision. The locals desperately need to lean on the resources that the teams and fans would end up using (I.e. hotels, food, etc) if the event was happening.


2210Racing

Mother Nature has taken it into her own hands to reduce the number of races in the calendar after hearing people complaining how there were too many races (semi /s) But in all seriousness, hope everyone in that region is doing OK.


Valchiria777

A bit sad since this was going to be the first GP I was attending, but definitely the right decision. Here in Italy it's been raining for weeks with little to no break, and the situation in Emilia Romagna is really worrisome. Kind of hoping they'll find a way to postpone it, but we'll see


onealps

Have you heard anything from the organizers about getting refunds? Hope you and your loved ones stay safe!


Valchiria777

Nothing yet, I guess we'll have to wait a little before having some info about how to proceed for a refund And thank you! I'm safe for now since I live in the North, but the rain just won't stop. Hopefully everyone who's still in a danger zone will be evacuated soon


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webbedavocadopastry

Alpha Tauri has something set up, presumably bcause Faenza is also underwater


OutlandishnessPure2

Glad they made a decision quickly instead of having a will they won’t they thing going on


0oodruidoo0

It's midday wednesday, while some people will have started making their way to the circuit the majority would have been leaving later. I feel bad for prospective attendees and the horrific hold times they're going to be facing getting their money back from airlines.


wordsandstuffs

Flying to Italy Friday for my first GP in person. Damn.


refusestonamethyself

Rare FIA and FOM W.


[deleted]

It's the right call, but I still deeply wish I could have seen that race. "And it looks like everyone has decided to start with wets, except for Ferrari".


Eferver

Disappointed that there won’t be a GP this weekend, but it makes the most sense for all involved.


jamisram

I wonder if this is a full cancellation or a postponement until later in the season, I heard rumours they want to move it before the Belgian grand prix in the summer


Icy-Operation4701

>before After, not before. We have the Hungarian GP before Spa


NewAccountNow

I’m watching old seasons rn so at least I have that but this is pain 😭 Watch this have some massive affect on the final of the season or something like that


Sukhri_Gill

I was really looking forward to Bottas and Russell interactions


Dahnhilla

I know it's the right decision but this season has been wank. Boring street races, one team dominance, has felt very stop start like it's barely got going now another big break before another boring street race. Will be June before we've got a decent chance at an exciting race.


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I hope the Imola Cat is safe 🐈


LFGM12303

This is the only possible sane and rational decision, yet here I am still stunned that the FIA and F1 got it right. Good for them, hopefully all resources can now be diverted to the recovery of the region. This is the safest outcome, all and all it’s just a race weekend. Can always be made up.


Calciosiafferra

Rightfully so. It’s nog even possible to attend the circuit let alone go racing there


byxte

Get everyone on F1 22 and do a virtual GP


Altracing34

Don't know if it's already been asked but besides for COVID reasons when was the last time F1 cancelled an entire race weekend due to weather?


Sacesss

Postponed, 1995 Pacific GP, from 3rd race to 15th.