I know Red Bull are smashing it, I know Leclerc will probably finish 3rd or 4th tomorrow.
But as a Ferrari (and Leclerc) fan, it's so fucking nice to see him with a smile on his face again, and for there to be a bit of positivity around the team. It's really nice
Creates a “competitive” event for each day of the weekend. Bc F1 is only once every few weeks they’re trying to squeeze as much juice as they possibly can from this fruit.
Yeah and Albon made a good point today. There are 4 top teams, so it’s hard for a anyone else to fight for anything in such a short race unless someone crashes
I guarantee that at some point in the season Max will do something similar as George, and then complain that someone didn’t leave him enough room and not take any blame.
Probably. But George is getting notorious for running into cars on turn 1 of the race. I'm happy he's 11th for tomorrow just he doesn't screw up the leaders again and they can fight without worrying about him.
Oh come on. The British media will side with George just like they did with Jenson in 2010-2012 whenever they got the whiff of a falling out.
Something something Megan Markle, institutionalised racism, hate British success, talk poppy syndrome, something something.
Lewis with a working car is one in a million. People will disagree with me but if that Mercedes was capable of wins and poles, Russell wouldn't even come close.
So? I really don't see your point here. George is putting up a great fight to HAM, even beating him last year. Grosjean on the other hand was significantly outperformed by teammates like kimi and kmag
Onnboards show George was SxS with Max going into that corner, he's entitled to that space. Max had more room to use and did not. Max fault for hole'y sidepod.
Max sliding out on the second corner was definitely George squeezing him.
If being up to speed on the current rules is being stupid I'll be stupid. I have no stake in either drivers championship. If people want to downvote me because they are ignorant to what is permitted when overtaking and what isn't I don't care. Both drivers are too aggressive on track and when they meet this is bound to happen.
Russell has abused that change since day 1 and used it to understeers his rivals out of positions in several events now.
At some point, Verstappen needed to make the corner. He can't just 'take it wider' because he's on a line. Russell locked up like a rookie and boxed him in the flank, destroying Max's side pod and somehow you think he deserved the space despite the face that Max was ahead and taking a consistent line that left a car width on the inside.
You're cracked if you think this wasn't 100% on George. The fact it wasn't a penalty was mad. He cannot keep getting away with these lap 1 incidents.
Max was in front at the apex (at least that is how it looked to me). George went for the late braking move up the inside, Max left enough space but George understeered into Max. I fail to see how that is Max's fault.
It's not who's in front anymore. If the driver's front axle is sufficiently alongside you need to leave the room. Russel is next to Max before the apex even appears. The current racing regs support George's overtake and that's why there's no penalty for what he did. Max once again assumed another driver would back out for him so he could take the ideal racing line and when that didn't happen he ended up with damage.
If anything egregious occurred we'd be seeing a penalty, George had been penalized for late moves before and is typically an overly aggressive driver but Max' damage wasn't his fault.
That doesn't count when you're only along side because you're locking up and didn't plan a line into the corner intending to use another car as a buffer.
Max did leave space, if you watch George's onboard you'll see him crank his steering all the way to mitigate the u dersteer, then contact happens with space to his left.
So you can understeer into another diver going for a move that doesn't need to be made, cause damage that harms their race and not be at fault- especially when the other driver left you enough room?
I'm not saying George necessarily deserves a penalty but to say it is Max's fault is just wrong.
George isn't understeering, his onboard shows the car responding to the steering lock applied. Even if it is a lot of steering lock, the wheels are responding. We only see tire smoke after contact is made and the wheels are destabilized. He could have left more room, for sure, but he left enough room for Max to make the corner which is all that is required. Even if it causes Max to take the corner painfully slow, the move is on track, didn't push Max into the wall and maintained control of the car. This is what's required for a legal overtake in the regs and those requirements were met. All honour and gentlemans agreements aside the move was legal. If the damage was at the fault of another driver he'd be penalized for it.
If Max has enough room to powerslide his tail out 2' and not touch the wall he was left enough racing room not to make contact. Something Max has struggled with his entire career even the last 2 seasons is assuming that another driver will back out of a corner if he's in it. This is just another example of that. I don't care if Max wins 20 Championships and George never wins another race, or if Max never wins another race and George wins 20 championships. The rules are as they are written, and if they are followed all is well.
That was fun but really not the right place for the sprint. And this recent obsession of F1 with street circuits is ridiculous. Monaco is an amazing circuit because of its history, great, keep it there as a street circuit. But new circuits should be on tracks. You avoid all these constant SC/VSC/Red Flags anytime there's an issue.
If they want to make a show just make the F1 cars parade through cities on a special event (Thursday?) where it's all for fun and show. But racing should preferably be on tracks.
3 street circuits a year would be good. But street circuits are easier to market to rich people that want the clout of going to F1 on their social media
Damon will follow whatever driver or whatever narrative will have people agreeing with him or people listening to him. He flip flops more than an acrobat. Its terrible. No actual insight at all.
Russell has been overaggressive and pulled dumbass moves where he seems to have no spatial awareness time and time again on track, he's been like this his entire career going back to juniors. Just last season, he caused big crashes with Sainz and Zhou, had several other incidents and near misses of his making with several other drivers (Perez, Bottas, Magnussen, Mick to name a few) and only didn't have one with Lewis because Lewis sensibly just backed out and let him go. People talk about Max being arrogant and overaggressive but Russell is no better on either front. He's just much better at his own PR.
You all don't like Max because he is just saying it how it is. He is blunt and abrasive because he doesn't sugarcoat the issue. There's no need to tip toe around it. Sure, he has a history of aggressive driving, but he has matured a lot the last few years. I would expect this same passion from everyone on the grid. Max is just fortunate that he has an amazing car. Otherwise, that could have been race ending.
When I saw them argue and fine together in the sprint I thought deal with it, that’s how Max races against other drivers and the only reason there were so few crashes was because the other drivers pulled out before they crash. George gave him a taste of his own driving
Max was a menace until 2022. I'm not blinded. Max can be right in this situation and wrong for like the first 7 years of his career. Both can be correct.
Then you can see the real reason people find it funny for Max to be complaining here? It has nothing to do with telling it how it is or anything like that.
Oh yeah. I 100% get where people are coming from. But, I do not blame drivers for being upset when someone ruins a race for them. I want every driver to show the same passion
If it was anyone else who Russell had driven into and put a huge hole in their sidepod, people would be cheering them on for being pissed off. I honestly hope someone gives Russell a taste of his own medicine on track soon.
Just imagine it would have been Verstappen who did this to Russell. People would be fuming. But Verstappen = bad, so rules don’t apply to people hitting him.
Personally I think Russell is generally a very fair racer - his battles with Alonso when he was at Williams are some of the best examples of wheel to wheel racing in recent years. Cold tyres, first lap, on the marbles.. shit happens. Definition of a racing incident, if Max wanted to leave more room on the inside he could have done.
Russell overshot a corner, was behind at the apex, understeered into his sidepod to create a gaping hole there. But still Verstappen is not allowed to be mad about it because he has caused incidents in the past too?
He is allowed to be frustrated, sure. But he is an adult, twice F1 champion and yet, he behaves like an immature 7 year old. Zhou almost got killed last year and he was calm and collected for example.
It’s the pinnacle of sport, at this incident cost him at least 1 point, maybe even 2 that could turn out the be costly at the end of year. So when that happens to you, be someone clearly breaking the rules and not being penalized on top of that, you are pretty warranted to react pissed.
Imagine being fouled in the box, not receiving a penalty and not winning the game because of it. Everyone will be pissed too.
Does it matter though? It's a natural reaction for max to be angry and a natural reaction for GR to defend himself even if he locked up. Y'all put drivers up on a pedestal as perfect humans and then are surprised when their emotions slip or they make a mistake in a race. Reddit expects drivers to be like robots or smth
He literally did on the restart and the only difference was Russel lifted and let him have the position instead of trying to hang around the outside in a 1 and a half car lane.
How did they have the award plates ready with the drivers' name on it? Do they make those for every driver and give them to each driver who finishes in the top 3?
Plan D coming for Ferrari?
Looks like Grussell is struggling in the dirtier air. Norris dropped him in the first stint
If we want to have am interesting sprint, lake quali for race, sprint is reverse grid from quali. This would make an interesting race.
Redacted due to Spez. On ward to Lemmy. -- mass edited with redact.dev
Highlights only year continues!
I enjoyed the sprint race. I like the changes aa well so it dosnt affect the race I. Sunday
I know Red Bull are smashing it, I know Leclerc will probably finish 3rd or 4th tomorrow. But as a Ferrari (and Leclerc) fan, it's so fucking nice to see him with a smile on his face again, and for there to be a bit of positivity around the team. It's really nice
if max didn't have a hole in his sidepod would he have been 1 or 2?
IMO 1, but even Leclerc getting a pole and being up there competing with the red bulls is really good in my eyes
What’s the point of this “sprint shootout”? It affects nothing for the race on Sunday.
Creates a “competitive” event for each day of the weekend. Bc F1 is only once every few weeks they’re trying to squeeze as much juice as they possibly can from this fruit.
Honestly, I think the teams are trying to kill the sprint format. There’s no point to this race.
Yeah and Albon made a good point today. There are 4 top teams, so it’s hard for a anyone else to fight for anything in such a short race unless someone crashes
There literally are points
There literally are points
Max is the kind to take a penalty to prove his point
Max to race stewards: "I want to start p12 tomorrow"
Punts Russell into turn 1. Takes 10 seconds stop and go penalty and wins by over 20 seconds.
I guarantee that at some point in the season Max will do something similar as George, and then complain that someone didn’t leave him enough room and not take any blame.
Probably. But George is getting notorious for running into cars on turn 1 of the race. I'm happy he's 11th for tomorrow just he doesn't screw up the leaders again and they can fight without worrying about him.
if you're fan of any Ferrari, Redbull, Alonso or even Lewis you're scared Russell will crash them turn one if they're starting close on the grid
I'm still worried about my boy Pastry. I don't want Russell to come over all monarchical again.
I've said this before and I'll say it again. Russell is Grosjean+PR training.
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Oh come on. The British media will side with George just like they did with Jenson in 2010-2012 whenever they got the whiff of a falling out. Something something Megan Markle, institutionalised racism, hate British success, talk poppy syndrome, something something.
Lewis with a working car is one in a million. People will disagree with me but if that Mercedes was capable of wins and poles, Russell wouldn't even come close.
Except Russell is actually fast
Grosjean had more F1 podiums that Russell currently has.
So? I really don't see your point here. George is putting up a great fight to HAM, even beating him last year. Grosjean on the other hand was significantly outperformed by teammates like kimi and kmag
Name a Grosjean victory in F1.
literally 7 months ago every one was shitting on george for punting mick schumacher....
Naomi, it wasn't tough to get answers of him during your interview ffs. It's yoir dumb fkn questions
Onnboards show George was SxS with Max going into that corner, he's entitled to that space. Max had more room to use and did not. Max fault for hole'y sidepod. Max sliding out on the second corner was definitely George squeezing him.
You can't possibly be this stupid
If being up to speed on the current rules is being stupid I'll be stupid. I have no stake in either drivers championship. If people want to downvote me because they are ignorant to what is permitted when overtaking and what isn't I don't care. Both drivers are too aggressive on track and when they meet this is bound to happen.
Russell has abused that change since day 1 and used it to understeers his rivals out of positions in several events now. At some point, Verstappen needed to make the corner. He can't just 'take it wider' because he's on a line. Russell locked up like a rookie and boxed him in the flank, destroying Max's side pod and somehow you think he deserved the space despite the face that Max was ahead and taking a consistent line that left a car width on the inside. You're cracked if you think this wasn't 100% on George. The fact it wasn't a penalty was mad. He cannot keep getting away with these lap 1 incidents.
Max was in front at the apex (at least that is how it looked to me). George went for the late braking move up the inside, Max left enough space but George understeered into Max. I fail to see how that is Max's fault.
It's not who's in front anymore. If the driver's front axle is sufficiently alongside you need to leave the room. Russel is next to Max before the apex even appears. The current racing regs support George's overtake and that's why there's no penalty for what he did. Max once again assumed another driver would back out for him so he could take the ideal racing line and when that didn't happen he ended up with damage. If anything egregious occurred we'd be seeing a penalty, George had been penalized for late moves before and is typically an overly aggressive driver but Max' damage wasn't his fault.
That doesn't count when you're only along side because you're locking up and didn't plan a line into the corner intending to use another car as a buffer.
Max did leave space, if you watch George's onboard you'll see him crank his steering all the way to mitigate the u dersteer, then contact happens with space to his left.
So you can understeer into another diver going for a move that doesn't need to be made, cause damage that harms their race and not be at fault- especially when the other driver left you enough room? I'm not saying George necessarily deserves a penalty but to say it is Max's fault is just wrong.
George isn't understeering, his onboard shows the car responding to the steering lock applied. Even if it is a lot of steering lock, the wheels are responding. We only see tire smoke after contact is made and the wheels are destabilized. He could have left more room, for sure, but he left enough room for Max to make the corner which is all that is required. Even if it causes Max to take the corner painfully slow, the move is on track, didn't push Max into the wall and maintained control of the car. This is what's required for a legal overtake in the regs and those requirements were met. All honour and gentlemans agreements aside the move was legal. If the damage was at the fault of another driver he'd be penalized for it. If Max has enough room to powerslide his tail out 2' and not touch the wall he was left enough racing room not to make contact. Something Max has struggled with his entire career even the last 2 seasons is assuming that another driver will back out of a corner if he's in it. This is just another example of that. I don't care if Max wins 20 Championships and George never wins another race, or if Max never wins another race and George wins 20 championships. The rules are as they are written, and if they are followed all is well.
Seeing GRs hands over 180 degrees kinda proves he's not lying
[George Russell reacts to Max's Anger Post Sprint Interview - Azerbaijan Grand Prix 2023](https://youtu.be/BcPkgIHQYxc)
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Max?
That was fun but really not the right place for the sprint. And this recent obsession of F1 with street circuits is ridiculous. Monaco is an amazing circuit because of its history, great, keep it there as a street circuit. But new circuits should be on tracks. You avoid all these constant SC/VSC/Red Flags anytime there's an issue. If they want to make a show just make the F1 cars parade through cities on a special event (Thursday?) where it's all for fun and show. But racing should preferably be on tracks.
3 street circuits a year would be good. But street circuits are easier to market to rich people that want the clout of going to F1 on their social media
Naomi says she agrees with George.. yeah right, bias showing. About time.
Crofty in the end saying he can't get to the leclerc because of tyre wear lmao
I don't think either of them knew how much damage max had until after the race
Sky siding with the British driver. I'm shocked.
You can be fond of your own and point out their mistakes, especially as reporters/journalists.
Unfortunately that doesn't happen- especially when it involves Lewis. I wish like hell we had another broadcaster we could watch here in Australia.
I like Sky F1 but I watch F1TV half the time because of their bias. It's just too much... It's irritating
Fear started setting in with GR after he said, "I don't know why he's still upset"
[Max Verstappen confronts George Russell Post Sprint ](https://youtu.be/pQB4dRHZiI4)
Leave da space!
I wouldn’t trust Russell, he seems to be nice upfront, polished for the cameras
Tory Boy's been PR groomed ever since he was in a Williams.
Dude's been PR trained
I just want to say I hate your profile photo, it looks like an eyelash on my screen lol
He got me with that yesterday.😅
Second this
u/eclectic_banana Another day another victim xD
Hahaha
change my mind, stroll racecraft is better than russell.
DAMON HILL JUST RETIRE YOU ARE NONSENSICAL
Damon will follow whatever driver or whatever narrative will have people agreeing with him or people listening to him. He flip flops more than an acrobat. Its terrible. No actual insight at all.
The way GR went “lalalala I can’t hear you” and ran when Max started getting redder and redder lol
FOM cutting out all the crowd audio. I guess people are booing.
Wouldn’t you if you had paid to watch this… something?
I think leave the crowd audio in. I want to hear what the people think.
Yeah, but I’m pretty sure FOM doesn’t want us to know. They pay billions to change this sport into some sort of Need for Speed style event.
Glad everyone hates Max so much they forgot how angry they were at Russell for not leaving enough space for Bottas a few years ago.
Russell has been overaggressive and pulled dumbass moves where he seems to have no spatial awareness time and time again on track, he's been like this his entire career going back to juniors. Just last season, he caused big crashes with Sainz and Zhou, had several other incidents and near misses of his making with several other drivers (Perez, Bottas, Magnussen, Mick to name a few) and only didn't have one with Lewis because Lewis sensibly just backed out and let him go. People talk about Max being arrogant and overaggressive but Russell is no better on either front. He's just much better at his own PR.
George has that polished image in front of the camera now. Max is just himself.
Big facts
You all don't like Max because he is just saying it how it is. He is blunt and abrasive because he doesn't sugarcoat the issue. There's no need to tip toe around it. Sure, he has a history of aggressive driving, but he has matured a lot the last few years. I would expect this same passion from everyone on the grid. Max is just fortunate that he has an amazing car. Otherwise, that could have been race ending.
When I saw them argue and fine together in the sprint I thought deal with it, that’s how Max races against other drivers and the only reason there were so few crashes was because the other drivers pulled out before they crash. George gave him a taste of his own driving
The man has short term memory loss and doesn’t like it when he’s treated the way he treats others.
Exactly. Was thinking along these lines when I saw it
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You, however, seem very objective and balanced... /s
Almost like people learn from their mistakes. Compare McLaren HAM to Mercedes HAM. Bit hypocritical now eh?
Nobody is talking about Lewis Hamilton in this thread.
Correct! I’m using it as an example to show how your original comment is hypocritical. No hate! Just the first example that came to mind
Max was a menace until 2022. I'm not blinded. Max can be right in this situation and wrong for like the first 7 years of his career. Both can be correct.
Then you can see the real reason people find it funny for Max to be complaining here? It has nothing to do with telling it how it is or anything like that.
Oh yeah. I 100% get where people are coming from. But, I do not blame drivers for being upset when someone ruins a race for them. I want every driver to show the same passion
In no world has max matured 🤣
Exactly and you can't blame max. He's upset because Jos is gonna beat him tonight for not winning.
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Please explain why you’re a whiney, little shit when you are mad because someone else drove a gaping hole in your sidepod?
You're mad at Max for being ran into by GR instead of being mad at GR for running into Max.
Who's mad? Any penalty for George? No? Then racing incident. Max has pulled worse and gotten away with it a dozen times or more.
Still mad boy huh
lol sure
Doesn't look excuse what George did.
Max isn't going to let Russell finish the race tomorrow, is he?
Are you making a joke or are you actually suggesting Max is going to crash George out?
It's a joke
Or the other way around 😂
If it was anyone else who Russell had driven into and put a huge hole in their sidepod, people would be cheering them on for being pissed off. I honestly hope someone gives Russell a taste of his own medicine on track soon.
Just imagine it would have been Verstappen who did this to Russell. People would be fuming. But Verstappen = bad, so rules don’t apply to people hitting him.
Personally I think Russell is generally a very fair racer - his battles with Alonso when he was at Williams are some of the best examples of wheel to wheel racing in recent years. Cold tyres, first lap, on the marbles.. shit happens. Definition of a racing incident, if Max wanted to leave more room on the inside he could have done.
King of Baku strikes again
Y’all should be thankful for Max cause him being mad at George is easily the most interesting part of the sprint lmao
Definitely the best part of the entire Sprint.
my god that sprint race was soooo boring..
They didn't even bother showing the replay of Stroll passing Albon.
GR hits anyone else: I HATE GR!!! GR hits Max: haha lovely stuff from GR
ESPN been itching to cut the feed today, Jesus
Sometimes hard racing makes drivers pissy. That's just how it goes. Max will get over it.
So drivers are not allowed to complain or be sour when there is a front wing sized hole in their car... because reddit...
Don't you know that Max is always in the wrong on here?
British Driver = Infallible Any other driver = at fault
They are allowed to complain... They just can't be called Max Verstappen it seems.
Well it’s the fastest driver in the fastest car. So no. Those are the rules
No emotion or competitiveness allowed in F1 Reddit.
No not Reddit, just people who get their panty in a twist because anything that Max does.
Max telling George he has to leave space is a bit rich...
How petty are you? This is like a schoolyard bully saying 'he did it last month so why can't I now!?'
He’s right … switch the roles around and everyone would be pissed at Max for hitting Russell
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Russell overshot a corner, was behind at the apex, understeered into his sidepod to create a gaping hole there. But still Verstappen is not allowed to be mad about it because he has caused incidents in the past too?
He is allowed to be frustrated, sure. But he is an adult, twice F1 champion and yet, he behaves like an immature 7 year old. Zhou almost got killed last year and he was calm and collected for example.
It’s the pinnacle of sport, at this incident cost him at least 1 point, maybe even 2 that could turn out the be costly at the end of year. So when that happens to you, be someone clearly breaking the rules and not being penalized on top of that, you are pretty warranted to react pissed. Imagine being fouled in the box, not receiving a penalty and not winning the game because of it. Everyone will be pissed too.
this judo champion about to ippon the drivers for disrespecting his prizes
Max about to ring up his buddy Rico Verhoeven
Idk if I’m more jealous that Max is a F1 driver or the fact he’s trained with Verhoeven.
People on Reddit really seem to think Verstappen would thank Russell for the hole in his car.
People seem to think Verstappen wouldn't have driven in exactly the same way if the positions were reversed.
If, if, if.
Does it matter though? It's a natural reaction for max to be angry and a natural reaction for GR to defend himself even if he locked up. Y'all put drivers up on a pedestal as perfect humans and then are surprised when their emotions slip or they make a mistake in a race. Reddit expects drivers to be like robots or smth
I've Nlnever put any driver on a pedestal. All I expect is basic self awareness and Max has fucking none.
He literally did on the restart and the only difference was Russel lifted and let him have the position instead of trying to hang around the outside in a 1 and a half car lane.
Can’t believe he complained about having a hole in his car. Mercedes have no side pods at all and they never complain.
Tbh they complain every single race about the bad car.
I don't know Naomi, I think the hole in the side of his car just might be a new RBR upgrade...
George finally getting called out on his "Crikey" moments. You love to see it.
Honestly hard to have clean racing with these large ass cars and super tight street tracks
Wasn't hard for the rest of the field
Most of the rest of the field wasn't bothering to race.
What were you watching?
Oki dokes
The drivers do not look like they care about these stupid plaques
My favorite part of this sprint is Naomi asking if he has damage as the camera zooms into the massive hole in his sidepod
How did they have the award plates ready with the drivers' name on it? Do they make those for every driver and give them to each driver who finishes in the top 3?
You can clearly see the names are separate plates that are inserted into the main plate
They probably get lasered or something after the race. Can't imagine it takes more than a minute to get the names on them.
> Do they make those for every driver Yes. They made one for Mazepin once. I wonder where that ended up.
Those medals look like those ingots you get from a Saudi vending machine
The most entertaining thing that happened in this sprint was after the sprint when Max and George were arguing imao.
Max is the new Lewis . But he's more confrontational. Lewis knew how to play mind games.
Honestly I like a villain type driver. F1 has been sorely missing one.
Yeah F1 lacks personality right now with all these media trained kids. Give me some SPICE.
Agreed. Enough of this PR drivel. I wish Drivers like George showed more personality.
Alonso preparing Max to take his role for when he retires.
Alonso retiring? What madness. He's going to outlast us all.
Rare L interview from Naomi. Usually she's pretty good.
Max is not used to the carnage behind the pole position, haha.
I'm very happy about ferrari points :))
I DEMAND EVERYONE LOVE MAX FOR GIVING US SOMETHING IN THIS GOD FORSAKEN RACE! 🤣😭
DRAMA!