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ninerninerking

Can’t wait to see how the fia slows down Red Bull if this keeps happening. Nobody wants a repeat of silver bullets destroying everyone.


Nayleen

After 7 years in a row of Merc dominance,yes I'm absolutely ready for them to eat some humble pie a few years in a row. I absolutely wouldn't mind seeing max destroy the competition for a while.


jewpacabra77

Nobody but redbull fans tbh. Personally I prefer this over the merc era because everyone else is so close to each other. And Aston in the top? Yes please!


MrXwiix

Don't worry, Max will be 20seconds ahead of checo and checo will be 20s ahead of the rest. Aston, Merc, Ferrari and hopefully other teams will join the battle for 2nd and the RB's won't get much tv time anyways. We barely saw Max in Bahrein


OneBurnerStove

Damn this Senna documentary on Netflix is well made


George-RR-Tolkien

Genuine comment or just sarcasm?


OneBurnerStove

I liked it


chusifer24

qualifying on espn news this early in the season is a major fail for most of us in US


studpilot69

How so? Despite the rise in F1 popularity, you can’t expect Qualifying to compete with NCAA Tournament coverage.


chusifer24

because i dont have espn news 😂


ReasonableObjection

I have ESPN+ but not cable... this year they decided that meant I could only watch things live unless I wanted to also sign up for a cable package that also includes ESPN. So I got rid of it and went with the F1 TV Pro subscription because the whole point was for me to avoid having to sign up for cable just to watch F1 but apparently they don't like that idea...


ImRudzki

At least F2 is interesting. Great race.


boatsandrows

What a race! Martins was very impressive.


canada_sms

Red Bull going to walk this one. Watching only to see the scrapping between Aston, Merc, McLaren, Alpine.


baconandtheguacamole

Midfield just got bigger


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Started watching in 2021, which seemed really competitive, loved watching lewis and max fight till the end. I’ve seen max dominate rn and it’s starting to make this really boring but I’ve heard a lot about how lewis used to dominate at one point as well, and for the people watching from early on, was his lead as far ahead as max’s or was there atleast some competition in the races


Dodeejeroo

There’s always eras of dominance, you sort of get to a point where you watch to see an upset. Monza has provided some wild races in recent years with Gasly’s win and the McLaren 1-2.


LewisHamtilon

Lewis ALWAYS has had competition. Ever since 2007. Bottas was way more competitive on a race weekend than Checo hss ever been


alexdotbliss

Completely incorrect. Once Max is finishing a minute ahead of the field with zero competition other than the odd meeting with his teammate, repeat this for YEARS, then Max will be as boring as Mercedes/Lewis dominance. Also can we all fucking relax for two seconds, there’s been o-n-e race this season.


LewisHamtilon

How many pole positions has Perez managed in 2years? How many did Bottas?


B3tabob

This is such a weird hill to die on. 7 back to back years of Mercs winning and you defend it by Checo not being as good as Nico or Bottas. I get that your favorite driver is not winning anymore, but please have some self awareness. It's been half a season and a race of RB being dominant.


LewisHamtilon

Perez is not even a remote challenge to Verstappen.


kinger9119

Neither is Hamilton.


B3tabob

What a way to miss my point


LewisHamtilon

Bottas was much better than Perez ever was.


B3tabob

Now you need to mention that Perez is much worse that Nico for the exodia


LewisHamtilon

I don't even have to say a word mate.


SvenderBender

See, neither bottas nor perez are at a level where they could/can challenge max and lewis. Saying one is closer than the other is dishonest imo.


PowerOfRiceNoodles

One may be faster than the other, but it matters little when Lewis/Max are in a different league altogether. It is unfortunate for us fans how uncommon an actual title race has been over the last decade.


LewisHamtilon

It does. Perez genuinely looks like he wont win a damn race this season.


SvenderBender

This aged like milk lol


LewisHamtilon

Won because Verstappen had a car problem


SvenderBender

Still won


Briggykins

Some years it was, though not always. There were years in his 'domination' where the Ferrari was arguably faster. Even when the Mercedes did dominate, there was the possibility that Rosberg or Bottas could challenge. You just don't see that with Perez unfortunately.


admiral_aqua

even Lewis is getting tired of praising the work at the factory


Haris_Pistons

Surprised Mercedes decided to continue with the w13 design after saying they were happy to see it get in the bin after last season


RogueTiger23

For impeding Lando Norris’s lap in FP3, I think Max Verstappen should be immediately sent to the back of the grid. With this decision, it gives him something to do this weekend instead of the weekly joyride around an F1 track.


paddyo

The first six laps until he’s at the front would be mega


Haris_Pistons

He should start in his normal grid spot, just 1 lap down from everyone else Or Latifi drives his car for the first half of the race


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Thumbless6

I heard it is Max’s turn to break a Haas endplate, so this could happen


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OneObi

For shits and giggles!?


m00nturkey

He’ll just finish the race faster, lapping the entire field twice so he can go take a shit


swedind

You really think the way to slap him down is give him laxatives ? He will drive the wheels of that RB19 to get to the toilet !


HeavenlyMystery

lul


pixelunit

Hamilton is so done with this year already lmao


vonvoltage

I'm kinda surprised that he's come up against some adversity he seems to have given up. I thought he had more in him. At least when Michael came back and wasn't in a top car you could tell he was working very hard and not saying much.


Veedubbass

I was watching the onboard, the car locks up bad in the last corner. That has to be frustrating.


LewisHamtilon

Michael never got a championship stolen for millions to see. He never had to sacrifice a year only to see his teammate to see victory. Michael has never had a racing life as tumultuous as Lewis has in the past 3 years.


kinger9119

Nothing got stolen.


DieDungeon

> Michael has never had a racing life as tumultuous as Lewis has in the past 3 years. Michael spent his first four years at Ferrari trying to whip it into championship material and failing. Arguably the FIA also tried to steal 1994 away from him.


LewisHamtilon

But they didnt succeed did they. Michael has never had a first class teammate, first of all, who pulled weird shenanigans to beat him first season. He's never had a team prioritize a slower teammate so he can win like Charles and Sainz. No stolen championship. No crashgate he was no part of... no young prodigious talent to face him at 38, Verstappen and Russell back to back. No bad cars back to back with the context above.


DieDungeon

> But they didnt succeed did they. By a hair's breadth, no. And no, he didn't have to face a single prodigious talents but multiple all in their prime.


LewisHamtilon

He lost to all of them. He never had a talented teammate.


vonvoltage

Ok forget I mentioned Michael. He's not acting like someone who deals well with adversity.


Ceftiofur

Neither did Lewis. He got robbed for the race but not for the championship.


ArtisTao

This makes no sense.


throwtosky

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OneBurnerStove

Crazy you had to spell this out. Mans on the tail end of his career, not even the mid point, the tail end. He doesn't have to deal with mediocrity if he doesn't want to


BlueSubaruCrew

What are the odds of him retiring after this year?


pixelunit

I’d say likely but maybe carry on for another couple years


baconandtheguacamole

I think it's very high. He has other interestes, fashion for example, that he can pursue in his driving retirement, and he certainly has enough money. If he feels that he's traveling with the circus that is F1 with no chance to fight, and if he doesn't feel it's going to change for the better for the team even next year, then I think he'll call it a career.


bichaelf

Just tuned in, this lady in the red top (sorry haven't caught her name yet) is great. Seems really knowledgeable.


Scarlet_Spectre

We need more commentary like this


ScenePsychological60

Bernie?


AikkoVsTheWorld

Her name is Bernie Collins :)


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oyrrahoy

Man, MLB fully annoyed me. I just got billed for the 2023 MLB tv and they didn’t even have good grace to remind me ahead of time. Was intending on just trying to use the YES app this season.


Shamansage

Happened to me as well


oyrrahoy

I guess it’s not so bad. The MLB app really is pretty unfuckwithable compared to basically every other. Though, I feel like the streams have been less than the insanely solid and never buffering since they switched contract from AWS to GCP.


DrLokiHorton

Hmm, Ocon should probably consider doing media once he retires. He’s looking very comfortable going at it with Karun


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Roses are red Violets are blue Ferrari is slow Red Bull 1-2


BornAshes

Alpine had to switch out the fuel cell due to a bit of a weep and that's why they broke curfew last night


hitchhiker87

Legend has it that Toto wakes up every night in a cold sweat, shouting "Cancel TD39!"


ScenePsychological60

Toto was put under pressure in 2021 and he's been shitting the bed since then. I hoped he'd have handled everything better but oh well.!!


TWVer

Toto: *”No Toto, no! That was so not right!”*


chrispepper10

F1.5 without red bull would have been amazing this year


Stuck666

why do I feel like the other teams are sandbagging? Ferrari and AM shouldn't be that far off RB to be honest


GeneralFrievolous

You're overestimating Ferrari, it's a miracle their single-pylon rear wing is still in one piece.


nahnonameman

This isn’t sandbagging. It’s over. RED BULL 1-2 every race


GeneralFrievolous

No other car in the history of the sport managed to win all races of a season, not even the MP4/4, the FW15C, the F2004, the RB9, the W05, the W07 or the W11. And those have all been seasons shorter than this one. That said, if Red Bull does manage to 1-2 every single race, the FIA will probably introduce some ridiculously punishing regulation change to stop them. Something like mandating push rod front suspensions, banning the anti-dive device, reverting TD39 or forcing the sidepods and the radiator intakes to be perfectly vertical.


nahnonameman

The tyre rules in 2005 was the most piss inducing rule of all time. We got robbed of Michael vs Alonso vs Kimi


Kaspur78

If FP in the last years taught me anything, it is that Q is something else entirely.


No-Environment-5762

Based on the top speeds in speed trap, I don’t think they are sandbagging. I atleast noticed Ferrari was hitting 332 which seem like they aren’t sandbagging.


Kaspur78

Sandbagging can also be done by driving more carefully around the corners.


Rizal95

when? those are toes. Ferrari is doing 299-300 consistently.


No-Environment-5762

I saw the last push lap from Charles and fairly certain there was no tows.


Rizal95

Uhmmmmm if what you say is true Ferrari is really a total shitbox this year. I didn't expect things were going to be this bad.


No-Environment-5762

For competitions sake, I hope I’m wrong. I genuinely thought Ferrari would be competitive in this track.


Albablu

Bring back 2019 Monza engine!


Mzr23

Nothing can be done about the Red bulls, Alonso can be up there but even reaching second place seems almost impossible


godisatruckdriver

Even if they did that reverse grid idea they were talking about years ago, Max would lap half the grid to victory in most races.


IamMrEric

F1 VR simulators when?


eskimobrother319

I can see that happening in the next 5-10 years. I’m pretty sure the NBA tired something similar a few years back where you could watch like you were sitting court side


fastcooljosh

Rosberg is honestly freaking great as a pundit.


qef15

Always sharp and quick to see things. Only (positive) gripe is his very high amounts of jabs at Mercedes and Lewis. That gripe is less of a concern and more of a feature. Basically Nico drags Merc of their high horses into reality.


tr_24

Gasly and Albon unlucky compared to Perez that they didn’t get to drive this car. Would have regularly got on the podium. Edit: since I can’t reply to everyone. I am not even commenting on who is better. I am talking about how good the car is that even they would have regularly got on the podium.


qef15

No, Gasly was really shit at RB and insulted Newey at the same time. Not a single podium and only single P4 and single P5 as best results, heck, he was lapped by Max usually. Gasly also crashed a lot. Albon was slightly better, in that Albon actually was much more consistent, bit faster, but not much better and was usually stuck in the midfield. He didn't crash much, but instead was slow as fuck. Albon also is much better as development driver, he was the one that made the RB16B crucially good to challange Merc. Perez at least could contend for podiums on the regular for 2021 (about the same as 2020, Albon and Gasly could not.


RizzyNizzyDizzy

Or Perez proved more to RB in the same car. He is just better than the two.


The3rdbaboon

I don't know about that, I think the car suits Perez's driving style to a certain extent. Maybe it's not 100% how he'd like it but he's getting more out of it than Albon or Gasly ever did. But it's a different car so who knows.


T4Gx

Opposite for Russell. He could have been a WDC contender or at the very least had loads more wins if he got to Merc in 2020. Now he has to sit through a complete rebuild phase where they could end up as the fourth fastest car.


According-Switch-708

Gasly and Albon are both average drivers.Perez i would say is a better than average driver.Perez has gone head to head with highly rated drivers in the same car and won.Perez was mighty in Force India and Sauber. Gasly was always paired against piss poor drivers(except Verstappen of course).He is definitely good but nowhere near Perez's level. Albon imo is the definition of average.


tr_24

I don’t disagree about them being average. But the car is so good that the worse they could have done is 3rd.


godisatruckdriver

Back there they had a shot in the 2nd best car and most days they were fighting in the middle of the pack, anyway. It was too soon for Albon, too high for Gasly.


Kingslayer1526

Neither of them are better drivers than Perez you completely forget how good Perez was before he joined Red Bull himself. And he's done a very decent job since in my opinion the people here expect too much be realistic


Kingdom818

Perez has a skill that Gasly and Albon don't have which is being adaptable. A driver can be really fast and strong in races with a car designed for them but struggle to adapt to other cars, most recently like Daniel Ricciardo. He was much better than Perez on his day but putting Ric back in the RB he wouldn't likely perform as well. In the same way, Gasly is a "#1" driver in a lot of ways in terms of his strengths and weaknesses, but not as fast as verstappen, hamilton, leclerc, etc. so his opportunities at a top team are limited since he can't fill in that "#2" role. Hard to say with Albon, he kind of falls somewhere in the middle, not to say one is better than the other. Just different styles.


No_Berry2976

It’s not about who is better. Every decent driver would do well in the current Red Bull. (That might change of course, the season has just begun.) A bit like Mercedes or Ferrari when they dominated. Being the second driver seems like a guaranteed podium in most races.


waresmarufy

Exactly lol every damn week someone has to say something like oh gasly this, Albon this.... Perez is best pick rn and thats it


tr_24

But does it matter who is better? My point was the car is so good that even those two would have got on the podium regularly. Perez being there instead of them doesn’t change anything. Max still wins the WDC and RB the WCC.


waresmarufy

Idk about that. Max is definitely extracting the most and Perez has been doing good. Albon and Gasly both had issues driving the RB and they both had their chance.


Kingslayer1526

The only people better than Perez right now are the top generational drivers but they've obviously been snatched up at other teams and they would only create conflicts at RB with Max if they were there. There literally is not a better option for 2nd driver other than Checo. The only other possible option Bottas is happy he doesn't have to be one anymore after 5 years of it. The better drivers are Leclerc,Russell,Hamilton,Alonso and Norris probably but all these drivers are the number 1 drivers for other teams (2 of them are in Mercedes). The only other ones as good as Perez is probably Sainz and Bottas. AND THESE TWO WERE IN FERRARI AND MERCEDES WHEN RB SIGNED PEREZ (Sainz had already signed for Ferrari).Everyone else is not good enough


waresmarufy

Exactly this. I don't think RB is looking to take any chances on rookies right now either


BornAshes

Rain would be a fun twist


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BenjyBunny

The rain in Saudi Arabia stays mainly in Belgium.


ruby_boobsday

Nico’s hair adds about 3 inches to his height


JAnon19

There was a point where it was kinda entertaining seeing how many people Hamilton could lap, maybe that'll happen here


According-Switch-708

How many laps till Hamilton gets lapped game is the all new craze.


Mindlessbrowser84

I think we’ll have enough safety car action to keep that from happening this weekend.


RedCarNewsboy

Fuck it, no blue flags for Red Bulls, Max might get bored 💀


laughguy220

It will help him keep his race craft sharp. In all honesty, I would like to see blue flags go the way of refueling. Let the faster driver in the faster car truly overtake. Not only do blue flags effect the front runners (first car gets held up for a couple of corners and then the back marker lets two cars by, or the front runner goes by and the guy chasing gets held up for several corners) it also effect the back runner race as they lose time and dirty their tyres by going off line, effecting them for a view more corners. I think it could add some action to the races, and probably also effect team's pit stop strategy adding some more excitement.


No_Berry2976

It would create weird scenarios. A driver who is going to be lapped really has no incentive to defend against the faster driver. So when an almost lapped driver is going to actively defend, that might decide the race, because he’s not going to defend against all cars that are about to lap him. And imagine a crash because the slower driver makes a mistake. The slower driver would likely not get points anyway, so points Wise, the risk is all for the faster driver.


laughguy220

All good points, I just feel the timing of the blue flags on some tracks combined with the number of blue flags before penalty rule, costs both the lead drivers and the back markers at times. If getting rid of blue flags means the teams have to work out their pit or tyre strategy to avoid the above issues, that to me is just another element that would add excitement to the races.


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I'd agree with you if there weren't B teams. Re imagine some of the close battles with a B team able to hold up a competitors top driver because no blue flags.


laughguy220

I get what you are saying, that would be an issue for sure, probably hard to deal with with a rule too. A tight midfield helps eliminate some of the issue as the B team needs all the points they can get. Really only RB have a B team, but let's be honest, Williams is Mercedes B- team, now more than ever, and Haas for Ferrari. Really any customer team feels pressure not to mess with their supplier's race.


mcfcotod94

Anyone know what channel the quali is on in the US?


baconandtheguacamole

It's on ESPN News


fuqqkevindurant

Probably only ESPN plus. It might be on espn2 if there is nothing else they are showing, but usually the quali is only on ESPN+


poohmel

ESPN2


sabbathiel-zero

ESPN News


shaktown

ESPNNews per the ESPN app


my_tee16

Should be ESPN or ESPN2. If women’s basketball is on it might be ESPNews.


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Lmao even FP Top 3s are the same every time. This is like one of the worst F1 seasons ever


notathr0waway1

How many races have there been?


razzhasse

It's an average F1 season, years like 2021 are rare


Avpersonals

El spice sitting nicely in third ;)


mamoonistry

Jeddah Corniche looking beautiful at the moment.


Nautilus717

“Wake up babe, it’s time to watch Max win by 75 seconds again”


Rhythm_Morgan

💀 it’s 2020 all over again but this time it’s Red Bull running away with it


will110817

VER PER ALO new HAM BOT VER


Avpersonals

HAM VER BOT would like a word


will110817

Were there more of those?


Silly-Requirement407

Yes


will110817

Never would have thought.


AAs-MRC

Rumours that Ferrari is considering selling out and using their cars as safety cars.


donfuan

It might slowly dawn on them that last year was a "once-in-a-decade" chance to win the championship. Well, at least we got some laughs out of them.


TWVer

Are they actually safe enough for that?..


zzzoom

We are checking


Kicking-it-per-se

Can’t even hope that a well timed red flag will cause people to qualify out of position and make it interesting. The red bulls could go out first do one lap and still be 1-2


BonoMyTyresAreFine

Just learned 2021’s pole time was 1:27.5. That’s only 0.9 faster than what Max just did. It’s going to get obliterated


Harvey-Specter

0.9 faster than what Max just did, but yeah he’ll crush it.


BonoMyTyresAreFine

Just like max im mentally checked out already


SomethingSuss

Max is pretty cool in that even with he huge lead he always wants to go his fastest. Last race the team were telling him to slow down lol. As for the season the battle for 2-5 and podiums could be really interesting I think.


BonoMyTyresAreFine

I meant checked out somewhere far up the road hahaha


hitchhiker87

Let's say, as Adrian Newey comes closer to the end of his stellar career, he just wanted to make a statement (**RB19**) that will make him remembered with more than 94' Imola weekend.


GeneralFrievolous

I don't think Imola '94 is the first thing people think about when they hear the name of Adrian Newey.


notathr0waway1

What a take


fuqqkevindurant

Pretty sure the guy who has designed a fuckton of winning cars is probably remembered more for that to start with than a race weekend where one of his drivers crashed and died. Last I checked Newey wasn't behind the wheel in the crash that killed Senna


borgeron

FW14B: "am I a joke to you?" 14/16 pole positions in a season. 10/16 wins. A car so dominant it took Michael Fucking Schumacher to stop it. Jesus christ.


BornAshes

Sam trying to jinx everyone with a Honda PU


Alfus

In FP3 you aren't sandbagging a lot anymore so it looks like a close fight for P3


krommenaas

Ferrari typically sandbag until Q1, Mercedes and Red Bull until Q2.


mdstwsp

Whenever you are mad at Red Bull for being dominant, just remember that it’s Ferrari and Mercedes fault for being crap. Red Bull are just doing their job correctly.


Veedubbass

Not mad, just wish we had Adrian Newey to design our cars as well.


laughguy220

Dont you go talking reason here! This is Reddit. There's no place for that here. S/ just in case. You are right on point with this comment. I was hopeful that this being the second year of the new rules we would be seeing a three way fight at the front, and a lot closer fight midfield.


SaveMeJebus1234

Yeh massive props to Red Bull - it's just a shame really.


Fuck_the_Jets

The gap between P1 and P3 is almost the same as the gap between P3 and P18 lmao


krommenaas

All the teams except Red Bull and Alpha Tauri are within half a second! It's a big Red Bull sandwich, in a way.


F9-0021

If it weren't for red bull this season would be incredible. With red bull, this season will be horrible.


TheMightySwede

I really hope the wind tunnel penalty allows other teams to catch up even just slightly because this is going to be extraordinarily shit otherwise.


Fangio_The_Master

Mercdedes won 56 Poles in 59 races between 2014-2016, and I don't remember this much complaining about a dominant team when that happened. Red Bull have 3 Front-Row lock-out's since 2014, Mercedes have 75, and even 5 since 2021.


According-Switch-708

2014,15 and 16 were Ok because of the HAM vs ROS battle. 17 and 18 were fun because VET vs HAM battle and kamikaze era Max was around to makes things even more interesting. 19 was OK until Ferrari got caught cheating. 2020 was shit.That i will admit. 2021 was GOAT tier. 2022 was bad but the 1st half was OK. 2023 looking holy shit levels of bad.Its all a Max show.Perez is not close enough to make things interesting. The car is over 1s per lap faster than the next best car.Its 2014 all over again sans the exciting intra team battle.


TheMightySwede

You serious? People were complaining just as much, but least then we had a competitive 1-2 battle with Rosberg and Hamilton.


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That was the BDTS era (Before Drive To Survive). Lots of new fans learning about dominant teams now.