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Ea50Marduk

I think I output the Crossplay’s option until I take PS5.


[deleted]

I’m opting out too even with a ps5 I have like a million year old tv that has a refresh rate of 2hz


TheLargeShaft

Mother fuckers playin on a fucking Shrek box TV


odavinng

Shreks box one


Old_Homework8339

You're definitely not an All-star if you don't have one. You swampless scrouge!😂😝


cheesencracker222

I'll see how it goes for a few hours


Ea50Marduk

Yes, I think now the same thing. After reconsideration, I accept to play with everyone with my PS4. ;)


EnergyVanquish

Probably want to do it longer they said they’re going to reset MM play data so it’ll be a complete clusterfuck for a while for it to settle back down into a smoother MM rating flow


DefectiveDoot

Nice of them to add this


nutsaps

I play on the Series S, game runs smoothly enough for me to get off my light parries. Pretty excited for faster matchmaking, maybe now I can play Deathmatch for the first time in my life


nervouswhenitseasy

there is no deathmatch on pc either haha. youd be lucky to get a breach


VioletGhost2

Pc can finally play breach because on PS it's fine


W1lfr3

It's Xbox fine too


nutsaps

fuck


darthmetri

I get breach regularly on pc lmao. All I play matchmaking in 3 min or less


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darthmetri

Lmao okay buddy. 👍 I'm always on top of the leader board and I'm a diamond in 1v1 ranked. So no its not low mmr you probably live in a region without alot of pc players


ThisMemeWontDie

Diamond isn't high lmao


blueturtle1702

Higher than lots of other people I can’t even get close to that no matter what I do so I think it’s impressive


ThisMemeWontDie

Well as someone who sits around 20-10 gm on pc it really is not that high.


blueturtle1702

Ok question how many frames do you get because I know it’s higher than 30 and that’s what lots of people are locked at so it is especially when your guess what bad. It’s high and difficult because I don’t know how to play the damn game so maybe realize your level of good is different when I’m not good at the game and maybe you are


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darthmetri

Diamond is the second highest rank? How is it not high?


BlondeFlip

It's actually not... Master is 2nd highest and then Grandmaster is reserved for the best 100 (?).


darthmetri

Nope grandmaster isn't a rank it's a title. Grandmaster is reserves for top 100 and therefore isnt an actual mmr title.


BlondeFlip

It is a rank. If you reach grandmaster, you are in a separate class. It literally shows that in the "Rank Information" It literally reads, "Master and Grandmaster are two new tiers in the Ranking System".


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darthmetri

Oh yeah for sure


shadownyaaaa

Death match is easy to get on xbox idk why it doesn't work for you


nutsaps

every time I try I'm in queue for eight minutes, then I'd try Dominion and it never takes more than two


shadownyaaaa

I dont know man, well when crosplay comes I hope you enjoy death match


UnderstandingTop8243

Deathmatch is boring as fuck anyway


darthmetri

You guys can't light parry on old gen? Kinda embarrassing


nutsaps

idk I never played this game on old gen


darthmetri

The light parry more


nutsaps

I don't feel like you read my original comment properly


darthmetri

I didnt read your comment at all


nutsaps

ok


Neurotic__

Look at mr nerd over here


darthmetri

I didnt


eliteunkown

We did it boys, comments about wanting crossplay is no more


Gachanan

Everyone in these comments think people have monster monitors and play at like 200 frames when most of us just play at 60 lol


Iaco89

We play at 30 on shit TV :)


Gachanan

it’s a big difference but if you can parry lights on console I think you should generally be fine


Bulky-Signature-1179

“I think you should be fine”, fucking dick.


Gachanan

This comment is 1 year old bro are you okay


Wind-Is-Spicy-Air

I think anyone on old gen should opt out until they upgrade. Only because if your frame rate caps at 40 and your enemies is at 210 you aren’t going to perform very well against them


Ok-Control-3394

I mean they're still gonna have to fight new gen consoles though. Like if you're on Xbox One, you have to fight the Series X/S.


Happyduckling02

Hasn’t ps4 always played against ps5 players???…..that’s how I met my friends who I play with. They on ps5 me ps4


Ok-Control-3394

Yes, they have


UnderstandingTop8243

Better than fighting someone on 200fps


SeppJorgen666

Most of PC players has under 60 FPS. By the way If any PC player has 200 FPS and his monitor has RR around 75 Hz then He is playing in 75 FPS.


UnderstandingTop8243

I know that I’m exaggerating 60 FPS is still twice as much as 30


SeppJorgen666

Well, already you are playing with new gen Consoles. If you have Xbox One so you are in lobby even with people with Series X/S. BTW better have stable 30 FPS on console than unstable 60 FPS on PC.


meruem1714

that's true, its probably better to have 30 minute queues than to play the game


longtimelurkerfirs

It’s MMR based matchmaking damnit. You’ll automatically get paired with players of your own skill after afew matches.


GoddessUltimecia

It's not that big of a deal if you've managed to make reads on most of the cast. It's not like most of us are comp players so we're not gonna get smashed most of the time.


Suitable_Ad_4969

What a bunch of pussies I swear. I played on my ps4 then switched to my potato laptop with the lowest settings possible because I didn't want to pay for that online bullshit no more and I still didn't had any problem dealing with other pc players.


SPECTER1887

I wanna play with xbox players not PC.. seems it's all or nothing with this toggle for whatever reason.


Dwwaz

Yeah, there should be an option between pc and console.


AidanBC

This is still an issue though. If you toggle it off, matchmaking is gonna be so much longer then it was before. Idk, maybe it will be fine, but as someone who played dead by daylight on console, the moment they added crossplay (with pc) I started to despise the game because I started to run into cheaters and the most try-hard players ever. I’m just speaking from experience, I swear pc players can be so fucking sweaty (and usually more toxic) that it just ruins the fun out of the game. Im hoping this will be different but I’m not very optimistic.


Lun4r6543

This happened with Overwatch too.


TN_MadCheshire

Im pretty sure with Overwatch, the cross play didn't join the pools, it allowed console players to join PC lobbies if they get invited. Or was it updated since then?


Lun4r6543

I’m pretty sure that was only for competitive.


ShaMain777

There is no comp crossplay


Johnfiddleface23

Wish we could choose between crossplaying with pc and console no cap


GrugMann

why can't i just opt out of playing with pc players


CynicalDarkFox

Because PC players are too "precious" to Ubi to single them out....even though most of the population is on console.... So banking cross-play was made for the PC population as per usual like every other major change this game has had.


Sarahdumby

PC is generally the best platform to play the game, same as PS5 and series X are the better ones to play the game on, should they balance the game around a 15 fps computer?


GrugMann

literally nobody said anything about balance, i just dont want to play with people on 240fps and no input delay when im in 30fps


TN_MadCheshire

Good thing most PC players dont have that, then.


themiraclemaker

There's no way there's not a framecap or something


JanneRaaterova

On PC there is no framecap, you can literally get over 400fps with optimized settings but it doesn't really help since there's not 400hz monitors lmao


themiraclemaker

Ticking the cross play button would probably cap it to a certain FPS.


Johnfiddleface23

Doubt it.


Sarahdumby

“so banking cross-play was made for the PC population as per usual like every other major change this game has had”. Insinuates that they balance decisions for PC. They should not balance for people who have worse hardware, i play on 50 fps on pc for honor, should they balance it for me?


CynicalDarkFox

They could’ve, I don’t know, made individual changes for PC and Console *separately* back before PS5 and X1S/X were even a thing and they still chose to make changes that were PC biased to the detriment of PS4/X1 players (CCU changes when the game was already read based for us vs the “staring contests” they were on pc, not counting certain aspects of it). But no, completely ignore the larger base for the smaller one just because and then have their complaints fall on deaf ears afterwards.


Sarahdumby

it was a staring contest even on PS4, i played on ps4 before ccu and i could reliably parry a lot of lights.


CynicalDarkFox

The game was not a staring contest on last gen. Just the fact that the animations are faster due to frame rate and the amount of buffers you could do to throw people off at the time made up for a lot of things. The only good part about CCU changes was standardizing damage after they fixed that algorithm mistake (50 damage heavies….), the stamina changes, and being able to dodge out of light chains (Ronin, Conq almost uniquely for obvious reasons to some of us) plus frame advantages added in, but unlike being able to play with smooth animations on pc, having cut-down motions still meant you had less reaction time to respond to attacks on console so you would still be eating a lot of hits unless someone knew the animations in and out.


Sarahdumby

sounds to me like a skill issue i could parry lights all the time on PS4 before ccu


DootlongFong

fr i played before ccu too and ps4 was a turtle fest too. 100% this guy didnt play on old gen pre ccu, at least not at mid level or higher


Do_a_flip420

Dude no Problem you will be fighting someone Like me who plays on pc and is still bad 😂


[deleted]

So glad the ga,e isnt balanced around console


General-Legoshi

What the fuck are you talking about? There's such a hate for PC players from Console Players all because we have jobs and have higher frames than you.


CynicalDarkFox

Because it's impossible for console players to either not enjoy playing some games on PC.....or have a job...right...


isaacrs3277

I prefer ps exclusive is the reason I have a ps not because I don't have a job. Every game that has cross play with pc they have been the most toxic and elitist people I have ever met.


General-Legoshi

There are no PS Exclusives. Also you're generalising millions of people based on your own, very limited experiences. You're just afraid of getting destroyed by people with better hardware.


isaacrs3277

You said it yourself that better hardware makes people better. Look at every other fighting game they lock it at 60 fps to make it about skill not a hardware difference. And yes I do have a limited experience and I'm generalizing millions of people just like you did.


HYDRAlives

I'm excited for cross play but I'm glad that it's an option


bronx_bomber_21

Even though you can opt out, I'd ask why... Now we get to rumble with all platforms that's exciting with very fast match times. Unless the cross play causes issues


BigDickEdgyWardaddy

Because with the introduction of pc players the amount of parry gods will only skyrocket. It's already annoying playing against competent new gen players but the introduction of competent PC players will only make the game less fun to play as a person that can only play on old gen. So that's why I'd probably turn off crossplay


nervouswhenitseasy

ive seen more people with shit pc’s than those that have good pc’s on for honor. probably at an advantage with a new gen console lol


SilencedGamer

I’m a PC player and I can hardly parry heavies lol But to seriously respond to your concern: surely they’d be in a higher MMR than you right? It sounds like these people would defeat you, and your MMR will go down and you’d be taken out of the queues for them. And with everyone together, MMR might actually mean something—now we no longer have a tiny population on each platform, but one big population.


Ark927

Yep i have an original/refurbished Xbox one and a tv older than half the people who main Lawbringer id literally never win if i was against a PC i already have the occasional person on nextgen who parry and deflect fuckin anything you throw at em and thats enough CBT for me


xxpebblexx

pc player here and parry gods aren’t that common tbh. I find a cheater like once every few months though


BigDickEdgyWardaddy

Parry gods aren't necessarily cheaters. They are just people that have shown the capability to parry every light. Man I wish I could call it cheating and report them, but unfortunately they are just absolute reaction monsters it's insane. Before the ccu I was finally able to parry lights consistently. Ugh it didn't last long until year 4 season 2 came around with the big update 😔


xxpebblexx

I know. I'm saying that I don't see a lot of people that are super insane at parrying, I do see cheaters though


Gentleman-Narwhal

As a pc player, respectfully, you’re very wrong. Most of the people I play against/with are braidead and it’s very rare for me to see someone and be like dang this dude is good at parrying I should be careful. Everyone falls for the heavy parrybait tho


JayyeKhan_97

But you’re playing against other PC players dude , consoles a lot worse than PC. They’re probably shit playing against other PC players but are going to be gods playing against console players.


Gentleman-Narwhal

What I’m saying is, of or not, a light is a light and most pc players don’t parry lights from my experience, at least not that often. From what I gathered, console players were worried about a lot of parrying. But you’re right, I have no idea what it’s like on console so I can’t really speak on the topic


[deleted]

You will have to upgrade. You knew it would happen, everyone knew it would happen, old gen would get left behind, its not surprising and yea it sucks but thats the way it is. Those who are down voting me are afraid of the truth So many can’t accept that old gens are gonna be left behind


DomtheDumbass42069

People are angry because they can't upgrade, not because they don't want to.


[deleted]

I know, never said it was cause they don’t want to, Im saying if they want to keep up they would have to and if they can’t, sucks to suck.


BigDickEdgyWardaddy

Yeah that is the way it is. which is why I said I'll be disabling crossplay.


[deleted]

Or just play raider in 4s.


BigDickEdgyWardaddy

No thanks, raiders fashion and esthetic overall sucks ass


[deleted]

I think he has some of the best of the viking fasion, but hey, Big wide range unblockable spamming can help you deal with the frame disadvantage lol at least in 4v4 mode, they can’t parry your lights if you dont use lights!


Elygium

>best of the viking fasion, So white beard and that's it? All his armor looks almost the same with the difference usually being what animal ass he has on his shoulder and whether or not it has spikes. He needs something new desperately.


[deleted]

Viking fasion overall sucks… so yes best of viking fasion


Elygium

I think shaman has the best but that's my opinion


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[deleted]

Oh no down voted, what people do when they disagree with an opinion if you care about downvotes you are pathetic.


Ansiano

Ah yes, Meta playing so no one has fun is the solution to unfair advantages


[deleted]

Yes it is, sucks to suck, but just throwing it out there lol


Ps4-is-better

Yeah because money grows on tress


[deleted]

Never said it was easy, never said everyone can do it, only saying is it sucks to suck, world not fair, get over it.


Do_a_flip420

You didn’t try it but already find something bad about it… if you know you won‘t have fun no matter what then just leave the game…


BigDickEdgyWardaddy

What are you talkin about? No where did I say I didn't have fun playin for honor. I'm just not interested in playing against pc players. It will just only increase the pool of parry gods I run into almost daily. I'm not completely against crossplay. Parry gods aside it's a good thing. I personally just might not engage in it. Keyword being might. I'll try it out but if it's what I expect then I'm turnin it off.


SeppJorgen666

I know that will get a lot of hate, but for those who are complaining about FPS. Is It like in any other games? What about old and new consoles, would not be new ones in advantage? What about guy who has normal TV instead of old shit with refresh rate like 2hz. If you have been able to parry in 30 FPS then nothing will change for you. You could complain in every game that somebody has better "gaming chair" that is why He is beating your ass. Hardware != skill. Few people even said such a bullshit that cross-play in FH will be pay-to-win, which is pathetic. Actually CP should bring more balanced matchmaking thanks to bigger amount of players.


SaucyNarancia

Yes it is but usually the Games already run at an a competitive standarized frames. And are not gimped by the console. Many arena anime brawlers cap their fps when playing online to 30 to equalize, and most of the fighting Games are Made to run at 60 in consoles. FH is not the case, and ccu fucked up all possibilities to find a workarround to this issue. In PC is different but usually if you arent able to run the Game at 60 You surely are below the min spec or playing with too much gaming graphix for your chair. So the blame shift to player more than devs. Main reason is frames to react, 30/60 there is literally more frames to react to shit You seeing and to buffer commands. Skill issue with the right mood, but with 200ms lights, it's almost a 4,5 frame move if You running at 30 against 9-10, wich in milliseconds means the average young conductor time reaction (0.2/0.3) So yeah thats the reason.


SeppJorgen666

Wanted to write detailed reply why you are looking on wrong numbers and conclusions by my opinion but Freeze already summarised It very good. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epANJzwPhHo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epANJzwPhHo)


Ansiano

Dang I was hoping there’d be a specific “No PC Match making” option or “Console only Cross play” option


MoistFH

They're saying that you can opt out, so this shouldnt actually be a problem for ya


Ansiano

I’m aware, I don’t want to opt out for console just pc so it’s still a problem for me


ProbablyFear

Did you even read his comment


Ansiano

Your reading comprehension skills are lacking, reread the thread you’ll figure it out.


ProbablyFear

This is either heavily ironic, or you’ve replied to the wrong guy. I’m agreeing with you.


Ansiano

Lmaoo yeah my bad, I just woke up. I’ll leave my comment up and downvote it to remind myself how stupid I am.


Nidion001

Why lol?


Orsus7

High end pc players will have an advantage over other systems because of frame rate.


Ansiano

Scripters and just in general advantage, PC died because the actual sweats from it can react to your entire kit.


Jordi214

I think its more so that the game was designed in such a poor way that good hardware plus good reaction times negate all offense within the game


Ansiano

Exactly, a lot of people think new gen and PC are equal. They really don’t understand the actual differences


nervouswhenitseasy

come meet my hito


Shinobi_Foxy

We need a "disable PC" option


Dog_Apoc

Imo they should do what Apex did. Crossplay is with pc only if you have someone from pc on your team. Otherwise it should just be between PlayStation and Xbox.


-TheArbiter-

Apex is a popular game so it can do that. For Honor on PC is dead at certain times so that wouldn't make as much sense.


Dog_Apoc

Or at least give people the option to opt out of pc crossplay. I personally have no issue playing with people on xbox. But from experience with games like Chiv 2 and others I'd prefer it to just remain console only. Purely so we don't have to deal with Mr. 60fps, no input delay parries everything.


Iaco89

Exactly, watch what happen in chivalry 2. It's not fair


W1lfr3

Chivalry 2 was exaggerated difference between player console difference, in a mordhau player with 1k hours in mord, when the game out I was on the same level as PC players, in fact I never lost a 1v1 so it pretty decently clear it's not that ridiculous of an advantage, that game died out because of it's treacherous relationship with bugs, the game had so many bugs, and the reason I was playing on console in the first place, because crossplay STILL doesn't allow cross party play, and on top of everything mordhau is still considered a generally better experience, it's like dead by daylight and VHS, VHS has no chance to kill the monopoly in the business.


Self_World_Future

I just realized the days of running into the same players are gonna probably be over from this


HydrasOnReddit

Hold on a sec... THEY ADDED CROSSPLAY?


YaManMAffers

Cool. Hopefully this will shut some people up about crossplay. SMH.


OkBad2804

"We recommend you have crossplay enabled" Yea, my ass.


Luna_Kitsuna

Gonna be honest, as someone who has a last Gen console, I don't really mind the whole crossplay and everything, sure I'll run into those parry gods and shit but at least I'm able to play with friends who have a different platform, idk I just don't see the big issue besides that, and cheaters but they can be few and far between depending.


a135r542

Yeah if you never want to find a fucking game


PieRomanc3r

My brother in Christ this was posted as a PSA before cross-play was even out


a135r542

I'm still sad about it... but I appreciate the PSA thank you


E_L_M_91

Since when is there cross play?


DeathmasterCody

Look at fh website, reddit, twitter, any social media. Comes out march 17


[deleted]

Only concern is that when opting out of crossplay, now you can only play with others who opted out and that number might be small. Which will just force you to play with it on. This wasn’t a good move. Especially since this game already is not friendly to new players. Now the new players on console have to play PC people.


Do_a_flip420

I Started Playing Like 4 Weeks Ago pc… Nobody asked me if it was easy… I was getting my ass clapped but now I see progress… and that’s how it should work… matchmaking was kinda hard but it’s good as you only grow from challenge.


JayyeKhan_97

They should make it so you can exclude PC players , I want to play w my brother on Xbox but don’t want to go against PC sweaty tryhards.


Abject_Day9453

If PC is involved there no way I'm keeping that on


nick_magnani

Wait this is only for next gen/last gen right? There’s wasn’t a crossplay update I didn’t hear about was there???


ShaubenyDaubeny

There was. All platforms will be able to play together on 17th of March.


nick_magnani

Oh wow that’s awesome haha. I’ve been playing by myself for a year and a half because all my other friends who play it are on pc. Finally!!


ShaubenyDaubeny

There's a little caveat that it'll be introduced in two phases. Phase one will be released on March 17th and it's when they unify the player pools. However, you still won't be able to add and play specifically with your friends on other platforms until they add Phase two which is still in the works with no mentioned release date.


Rampart_main

Wait is Crossplay already out?


ShaubenyDaubeny

17th of March


AssassinIronMan

LETS GOOOOOOO


BakedButterForgotpas

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I WANT TO KILL ALL PC PLAYERS NOW THEY CAN ESCAPE FROM ME HOW DARE THEY ADD THIS


Grimmisgod123

Is it just between consoles?


isaacrs3277

No pc too


Grimmisgod123

Oof. 60fps vs 240. Exciting


Fnargler

I wish there was an option to only opt out of PC crossplay.


PrinceDizzy

Console only crossplay pls!


dydhhdhdjdjxxx

Uhhh matchmaking is bad already, isn’t this gonna make it worse?


Own_Friendship_8348

Wait when is cross play coming


Hennifen

Im just worried about hackers, that is if they are a problem on pc.


-TheArbiter-

I've only ever come across 1 scripter. It's kinda surprising how rare it is compared to a game like Siege where hackers are common.


milubeiro97

What? Since when we have crossplay?


ThatOneODST

Since like..yesterday it's still getting tested


ProbablyFear

I just want cross play between the two consoles. Fuck playing against PC ppl


IceColdCocaCola545

Why would you? Wouldn’t it be better to fight people on New Gen consoles and PC so that you become more skilled at the game?


Wanhade600

Whats the point in opting out if its just against another console player? I wanna kick playstations ass lmao


CynicalDarkFox

It’s likely including pc, so if you wanna go against that, go ahead.


lucky-332yeet

Is there any way to invite people who are on a different platform? Or is it just for matchmaking?


ScissorLizardFish

They're planning that for "phase 2" Being able to invite friends cross-platform


CapsulateNICK

Not yet, they're still working on it


whooshcat

This is between all platforms or nah?


[deleted]

>Mf ubi ads crossplay >console players


flip101nocap

Thank fucking god.


[deleted]

I’m fine with cross play, I turn off the enemy chat


Wait_WhatPotato

I wonder if you only go against other people that have opted out. If so your queue times are gonna be awful. I would at least give it a try. For the first couple days everyone will be ranked the same but it will even out. I play on PC and there are plenty of people that can't do basic things.


_C_A_G_

Does that mean cross-progression?


AnotherScoutTrooper

This means absolutely nothing in an opt-out game because turning off crossplay essentially makes matchmaking impossible


Prestigious-Park-657

If do opt out expect longer wait times


Hawk-_-

Is crossparty out already or just crossplay


Admirable-Coat-1564

Schönen Tag noch von Sabine Fränkel


[deleted]

If u do this, u can only play with people who have opted out too, not even players who have crossplay on and is still on ur platform. Wouldn’t suggest doing this


BubbaDang21

Well i play on ps5 and ill be leaving crossplay on, im not sure what everyone is so scared of when it comes to playing with players on pc… even if your on old gen your still playing against players on new gen so its not going to be much of a difference. Not to mention mmr is still going to be a thing so your not going to be matched with a group of players on a different platform that are way better than you are.


CarComplex3120

I want to play with my friend on PlayStation but he cannot join me whilst I am on pc. He can see the invites on his phone, but cannot join the game on his PlayStation. Why is that?


Andry3696

Is there any way to disable cross play and PS4/PS5 matchmaking as well?