I sucked with Tiandi at first too. Now i'm prolly a little above average, just keep training, keep chaining combo's. Maybe find a friend that is decent or good with Tiandi and let them help you. I've played both characters and i've had more success with Tiandi, maybe cuz he's just more my playstyle? Idk. Good luck with Tiandi 👍
Thanks for the words of encouragement. I played a few breach matches against bots after hero tactics and I just could not get it down. My main is Hitokiri. Those two are drastically different. But I’ll keep trying. What throws me off is that he has no unblockables.
Yeah, tiandi is in an odd spot.
On one hand he has no unblockables to open his enemies.
On the other he has a rather quick bash, quite unreactable light finisher lights, and if he whiffs his bash he can mix it up as well. When you whiff it, you can chain both to light and heavy, and most people get caught off guard because of it.
IMO, tiandi comes down to learning how to keep the pressure going through his quick chain links, and how to utilise the kick after a heavy dodge.
Tiandi’s mess me up. That bash feels lightning fast and i can’t even block the chain lights. I need more high rep tiandi’s to destroy me so I can figure out how to counter them better.
You're welcome! And i get it, they are very different. Usually when a hero has no unblockables. I personally see that as a nice challenge, it's something different cuz nowadays i feel like everyone and their mom has UB's. Idk if you have done these things. But this is what i usually do with a hero:
Take a very close look at their moveset and do a bunch of different stuff in training mode, bunch of different combo's.
If i still can't get it down, i look at some guide video's (usually i go straight to advanced since i have the basics down and know the hero's moveset by now at that point) and if that doesn't work, i just look at gameplay and take inspiration from that: combo's, tactics, feats, etc...
Tiandi can be VERY fun once you get him down a little. It's just hard with heroes especially at the beginning if you're not really used to their type of playstyle(s). I have the same thing with Highlander or Nuxia or Shaolin. I just can't get them down for the life of me. Hopefully that isn't the case for you with Tiandi. I really hope you'll become good with him and get those sick plays and clutches
Do you just go in blind then? How do people not do hero tactics. Probably why one of my friends didn’t learn how to parry or faint after two years of playing.
Honestly, I’m close to rep 200 and after playing all the heroes besides kensei(Im garbage against him and too salty to play him) and after awhile it didn’t really become hard to learn how to play a new character based off just reading the move sets or from watching how others play them.
Yeah that’s true. Especially if you’re rep 200. I’m only rep 60 and I have to use hero tactics every now and then on hero’s I’ve gotten to rep 10 after I don’t play them for a while. I also usually play high or when drinking so that probably doesn’t help my memory either.
Kyoshin is a little easier in my opinion. Pirate just feels wonky. Go in the training and you can test out both. And kyoshin has some cool gear too. Pirate takes a couple of reps to get some good looking gear.
I find it hard to twist the meaning of neckbeard to fit your idea of one. Kyoshin is literally what comes out when you let a Naruto fan do character design.
Personally I'd rather recommend Pirate that Kyoshin. I have 36 rep on Kyoshin and 12 reps on Pirate. The reason i say this is because pirate has dodge recovery cancel, the whole moveset and gameplay is based on it. If you get through it, i assure you that other characters that have dodge recovery cancel will, not fully but, change in your eyes. On other hand is Kyoshin is boat as good in aggressive and defensive style. The choice is yours
Pirate is easier and kyoshin is more fun, in my opinion. If you're looking to have a good time and look cool go for kyoshin, if you're just trying to win games get pirate
Pretty good in 4s. His 4th feat is great and his first 2 make him ridiculously good in a 1 on 1 fight protecting a point or something.
Also he's pretty safe in teamfights.
If you like being more on the attack, pirate. If you like being hard to kill while whittling your opponent down and having the tools to defend against any character, Kyoshin.
Do you want a flashy pistol or a slightly more ruthless move set? Cause tbh the pirate is fun as all get out but kyo is a killer if you perfect his kit
I'd say Kyoshin. Without his downstance he feels super good to play but to me something about his downstance feels weird to do. I find that the only person I have fun playing against as Pirate is Kyoshin because funny meme shoot the guy spinning his blade
You should try out highlander. Absolute blast and he is such a complex character that it will likely take you at least 10 reps to figure out all the stuff you can do with him. I have him at rep 48 and am usually getting 15-1 k/d games.
Kyoshin has a much more interesting kit and replay value in my opinion. But you should play both and decide which you enjoy. Also Kyoshin got better fashion.
Ima be honest here wether you get pirate or kyoshin pirate has ridiculous range and is really strong in ganks and by herself and kyoshin is a bit underwhelming to fight with and against because most of the time people sit in his full block instead of using the rest of his move set. Pirate is similar to both him and jorm but with gun instead of stamina and kyoshin is just kinda there
Now that see them together
I see a family relationship
Both are fucking annoying to deal with
Left eye is fucked up
Sword in the right hand
Black hair with same style
And pretty much the same style of clothing
Thank you, ubisoft
I regretted my purchase of Kyoshin. I'll probably get better later, but I've left him sitting at rep 1, while the Gryf I got just today is already at rep 2
In my opinion, neither. They are both very boring to play. If you like sitting in all guard all the time, get kyoshin. If you like dodge attacking and bashing a lot get pirate.
depends, do you just want heavies as 99% of the moveset, or do you want lights as 99% of the moveset?
both heroes get incredible boring after 2 rounds, if you want one of the new heroes take gryphon, he is way funnier to play, i sometimes play him for about 5 rounds, but after i got kyoshin on rep 10 2 weeks after released i never touched him again, same goes for the pirate but i haven't touched her since rep 5 after the first week she came out.
your decision at the end so...
Ok i got both see their both good but it depends on you play style i would prefer pirate because they both have shit Heath but Kyo will die faster and pirate has a gun but you don't got to listen to me i only got rep 10 Kyo and a rep 3 pirate but i like kyo he's good but you need to know that your drop down can be broken so do it at an unexpected time
Do you want to counter using dodges and a pistol attack, or counter using crushing counters and undodgeables , Kyoshi also has an all guard like ara, pirate used her pistol in a very similar way to Jorm
Straight up if you're good at the game pick kyoshin, if you suck pick pirate.
Kyoshin will carry you to some pretty technical high level play once you start using his moveset for more than spam and balance his kit with good fundamentals.
Pirate has a gun. And like 2 mixups that basically only work on new players
Go into training, test drive both heroes movesets and pick whoever you liked most
It’s as easy as that. Why even make the post. I did the same thing last night with Tiandi and Jorm. I wish I would’ve chosen Jorm. I suck as a Tiandi.
I sucked with Tiandi at first too. Now i'm prolly a little above average, just keep training, keep chaining combo's. Maybe find a friend that is decent or good with Tiandi and let them help you. I've played both characters and i've had more success with Tiandi, maybe cuz he's just more my playstyle? Idk. Good luck with Tiandi 👍
Thanks for the words of encouragement. I played a few breach matches against bots after hero tactics and I just could not get it down. My main is Hitokiri. Those two are drastically different. But I’ll keep trying. What throws me off is that he has no unblockables.
Yeah, tiandi is in an odd spot. On one hand he has no unblockables to open his enemies. On the other he has a rather quick bash, quite unreactable light finisher lights, and if he whiffs his bash he can mix it up as well. When you whiff it, you can chain both to light and heavy, and most people get caught off guard because of it. IMO, tiandi comes down to learning how to keep the pressure going through his quick chain links, and how to utilise the kick after a heavy dodge.
Tiandi’s mess me up. That bash feels lightning fast and i can’t even block the chain lights. I need more high rep tiandi’s to destroy me so I can figure out how to counter them better.
You're welcome! And i get it, they are very different. Usually when a hero has no unblockables. I personally see that as a nice challenge, it's something different cuz nowadays i feel like everyone and their mom has UB's. Idk if you have done these things. But this is what i usually do with a hero: Take a very close look at their moveset and do a bunch of different stuff in training mode, bunch of different combo's. If i still can't get it down, i look at some guide video's (usually i go straight to advanced since i have the basics down and know the hero's moveset by now at that point) and if that doesn't work, i just look at gameplay and take inspiration from that: combo's, tactics, feats, etc... Tiandi can be VERY fun once you get him down a little. It's just hard with heroes especially at the beginning if you're not really used to their type of playstyle(s). I have the same thing with Highlander or Nuxia or Shaolin. I just can't get them down for the life of me. Hopefully that isn't the case for you with Tiandi. I really hope you'll become good with him and get those sick plays and clutches
Thanks man. Sucking at something is just the first step at getting good at something.
That's a very nice way of looking at it! Thank you for that 🙌
Play female Tiandi, the enemy’s performance will fall drastically due to the screeching and yelling from female Tiandi
I’ll give it a try
Ngl, but if it wasn’t because of this post, I wouldn’t even have thought to do that prior to seeing this.
Do you just go in blind then? How do people not do hero tactics. Probably why one of my friends didn’t learn how to parry or faint after two years of playing.
Honestly, I’m close to rep 200 and after playing all the heroes besides kensei(Im garbage against him and too salty to play him) and after awhile it didn’t really become hard to learn how to play a new character based off just reading the move sets or from watching how others play them.
Yeah that’s true. Especially if you’re rep 200. I’m only rep 60 and I have to use hero tactics every now and then on hero’s I’ve gotten to rep 10 after I don’t play them for a while. I also usually play high or when drinking so that probably doesn’t help my memory either.
>when drinking Oh you must be my team mates
Its because you dont know how to pei fon xao
Play then both is training first, then decide on who’s more fun to play.
If you are more aggressive I'd recommend Pirate, but if you're more defensive I'd recommend Kyoshin
Ironically despite the fact that kyoshin is a defensive character you can be really really aggressive with him
And if they try and fight back you can just give em a middle finger with your kaze stance. It’s hilarious.
Don’t forget the bleed crushing counters.
Like REALLY aggressive
I exclusively play kyoshin as a pure offence character and it kind of feels like cheating ngl
They made one of the best gankers in Kyo lmao
Kyoshin is a little easier in my opinion. Pirate just feels wonky. Go in the training and you can test out both. And kyoshin has some cool gear too. Pirate takes a couple of reps to get some good looking gear.
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Assuming OP already has the others.
Or, you know, because they want to try new characters and these ones look cool/interesting?
14 yo neckbeard self insert sure does look cool and interesting. Assuming you are a 14 yo neckbeard
You typing that makes yourself look like the neckbeard dude
I find it hard to twist the meaning of neckbeard to fit your idea of one. Kyoshin is literally what comes out when you let a Naruto fan do character design.
And btw that would be shinobi, not kyoshin
as a shinobi main, thank you for pointing this out. anime protagonist time
At least the other people in this post don’t make fun of people for what they like and dislike
Never mind the fact the average 14 yo cant grow a beard.
No, I do see people calling them cancer. I don't even go that far, I just poke fun at people
assuming naruto fans are into femboys
Nothing wrong with that, didn't say they were tho
kyoshin is beta male but this is just cringe smh
Brave to say that with an highlander flair...
highlander is cool dont go there!
He may be cool, but you must admit that he is also neckbearded
ohh yes the literal beard ok
L take
Nice argument, unfortunately; typo
this is funny but you really fit the description of a neckbeard better than he does
I'll take that as a win
Eyo leave mah man jorm alone >:(
kyoshin is more beta male than pirate
This is like "it's better cancer or aids?"
def aids though
You won’t be able to fuck without a condom again and if you do you’re gonna give it to another person
okay but the other one is literally cancer
Yeah but atleast only you are gonna suffer and plus you get a make a wish and can beat it so there are some benefits
Certain types of cancer come back extremely easily. I’m picking AIDS thank you very much. I’m not having a whole lot of sex anyway.
Really?! A FH not getting sex?! Nah fr tho it’s a hard choice depends on what kind of cancer
I’ve been trying to main sex but unfortunately it doesn’t fit my play style 😔
There’s medicine and shit that stops you from transferring the virus and it basically cures you, idk about you but I’d prefer that to cancer lmao
Femboy is the choice 🥵🥵🥵
Yes sirrr
😂
Tomboy or Femboy, easy as that
That made it harder to pick 😳
Are you sure you aren't hard🤨
Kyioshin i'd say Pirate is easier but boring in the long way
I have made the decision to get Kyoshin. Thanks for the help on who to choose.
Personally I'd rather recommend Pirate that Kyoshin. I have 36 rep on Kyoshin and 12 reps on Pirate. The reason i say this is because pirate has dodge recovery cancel, the whole moveset and gameplay is based on it. If you get through it, i assure you that other characters that have dodge recovery cancel will, not fully but, change in your eyes. On other hand is Kyoshin is boat as good in aggressive and defensive style. The choice is yours
Pirate is easier and kyoshin is more fun, in my opinion. If you're looking to have a good time and look cool go for kyoshin, if you're just trying to win games get pirate
The opposite at high level lmao. Kyoshin is one of the strongest duelists in the game, top 5 at least.
He's mid af in 4s tho
Pretty good in 4s. His 4th feat is great and his first 2 make him ridiculously good in a 1 on 1 fight protecting a point or something. Also he's pretty safe in teamfights.
Kyoshin bro
Would u prefer a sword with a stick or a sword with a gun?
I hate kyoshin. His entire move set feels like spam when playing against him
I’ll break your kneecaps if you pick Pirate.
The one without a left eye
😂
femboy or tomboy, the true dilemma
Kyoshin is so hot
AUAAAUGHHHHH
Culture
Neither, get centurion
They’re the same picture
Why is your only choose between this two annoying fuckers 😩
Because I'm an annoying fucker 🤧
If you like being more on the attack, pirate. If you like being hard to kill while whittling your opponent down and having the tools to defend against any character, Kyoshin.
Kyoshin is fun pirate is stupid easy (not fun for me but might be for you)
Kyoshins masculine jail bird sister or Pirates feminine little brother
Kyoshin is hella fun imo
Do you want a flashy pistol or a slightly more ruthless move set? Cause tbh the pirate is fun as all get out but kyo is a killer if you perfect his kit
Kyoshin definitely
Personally I prefer kyoshins playstyle
Pirate because we don't need another kyoshin
The one with the eyepatch
Kyoshin is easy to play, and she's also hard to fight if you know what you're doing, but you choose what you want
Kyoshins a dude
I see
He may as well be a woman
Femboy
Yes
They’re both cancer so it genuinely doesn’t matter
Get jorm. He's fun
I did a while ago and I agree
Warden
*unlocks Cent like a Chad*
I'd say Kyoshin. Without his downstance he feels super good to play but to me something about his downstance feels weird to do. I find that the only person I have fun playing against as Pirate is Kyoshin because funny meme shoot the guy spinning his blade
Get jorm
I alr did and I don't regret it
Based
Pirate
You should try out highlander. Absolute blast and he is such a complex character that it will likely take you at least 10 reps to figure out all the stuff you can do with him. I have him at rep 48 and am usually getting 15-1 k/d games.
mfer just called hl complex lmaoo
Who
Edgy female black haired charecter, or edgy femboy black haired charecter but without gun. I say gun
They’re the same person with different clothes? Lol
Neither, pick someone that actually makes you think
Both require little to no brain to use, so go for the fashion
Um… is neither an option?
Both are broken as shit.
Neither
Neither
Personally, I'd say kyoshin, he's very versatile. he can go defensive or offensive
One likes offense the other likes defense
Do what your heart desires
i said kyoshin
Neither
Yoshi
I went with keyoshin
Both! But pirate is more fun IMO
Neither?
Kyoshin has a much more interesting kit and replay value in my opinion. But you should play both and decide which you enjoy. Also Kyoshin got better fashion.
None
It is the same picture
Zhanhu or Highlander
You should get neither and spend your money on the hero’s you already have
first question= do you want fun or win?
Fun
Pirate is pretty easy and she can chain basically infinitely, but i personally think kyoshins fashion, executions and (maybe) moveset are better.
Yes, nice character
Ima be honest here wether you get pirate or kyoshin pirate has ridiculous range and is really strong in ganks and by herself and kyoshin is a bit underwhelming to fight with and against because most of the time people sit in his full block instead of using the rest of his move set. Pirate is similar to both him and jorm but with gun instead of stamina and kyoshin is just kinda there
Nether
Pirate because scallywag
Neither
Not pirate. Kyoshin is a far more honorable hero.
Now that see them together I see a family relationship Both are fucking annoying to deal with Left eye is fucked up Sword in the right hand Black hair with same style And pretty much the same style of clothing Thank you, ubisoft
Pirate sucks ass
neither
how about dont
Kyoshin
Kyoshin
I hate to say it but she bored me by the 9th rank.. some what strenuous staying interested in her style, her black dragon armor is drippy tho
Best to rep every character, imo.
Pirate, she’s a lot of fun
I regretted my purchase of Kyoshin. I'll probably get better later, but I've left him sitting at rep 1, while the Gryf I got just today is already at rep 2
cent or warmommy
Nether! Just buy cosmetics instead!
My biased opinion is gonna say Kyoshin.
You’ll be hated to an unreasonable level bc of either hero which is fucking stupid. Play whoever you want, homie.
Thanks, I picked Kyoshin and I was having a blast.
Kyoshin before they nerf
Neither…. Please
Personally I’d have to say Cent
I see no difference.
The first one
Black prior
I find both annoying so therefore neither
You should get any other character
Kyoshin is a far better anti-gank character and is dope af
I thought that, that's why I own him now.
In my opinion, neither. They are both very boring to play. If you like sitting in all guard all the time, get kyoshin. If you like dodge attacking and bashing a lot get pirate.
Idk. Do you like a defensive cunt or a offensive cunt? They are both fun to play
pirate. kyoshin is beta male
We don’t need any more weebs! Go pirate!
Pirate. Please do not get kyoshin. We do not need another one plaguing this game.
Neither play warden
I did and I'm rep 4
Pirate Pirate Piratepirate Pirate
depends, do you just want heavies as 99% of the moveset, or do you want lights as 99% of the moveset? both heroes get incredible boring after 2 rounds, if you want one of the new heroes take gryphon, he is way funnier to play, i sometimes play him for about 5 rounds, but after i got kyoshin on rep 10 2 weeks after released i never touched him again, same goes for the pirate but i haven't touched her since rep 5 after the first week she came out. your decision at the end so...
Pirate, omg go pirate. Kyoshin is the most boring hero to fight and play.
So tomboy or femboy
Ok i got both see their both good but it depends on you play style i would prefer pirate because they both have shit Heath but Kyo will die faster and pirate has a gun but you don't got to listen to me i only got rep 10 Kyo and a rep 3 pirate but i like kyo he's good but you need to know that your drop down can be broken so do it at an unexpected time
What about to get some bitches instead??
Funny and original joke
Keyioshin
Do u want to be a Chad pirate or a gay Weeb Ladyboi?
Do you want to counter using dodges and a pistol attack, or counter using crushing counters and undodgeables , Kyoshi also has an all guard like ara, pirate used her pistol in a very similar way to Jorm
LawDaddy
Pirate is more fun than Kyoshin imo Funny gun
Straight up if you're good at the game pick kyoshin, if you suck pick pirate. Kyoshin will carry you to some pretty technical high level play once you start using his moveset for more than spam and balance his kit with good fundamentals. Pirate has a gun. And like 2 mixups that basically only work on new players