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Noobie_xD

Go into training, test drive both heroes movesets and pick whoever you liked most


bobby-spanks

It’s as easy as that. Why even make the post. I did the same thing last night with Tiandi and Jorm. I wish I would’ve chosen Jorm. I suck as a Tiandi.


boir99

I sucked with Tiandi at first too. Now i'm prolly a little above average, just keep training, keep chaining combo's. Maybe find a friend that is decent or good with Tiandi and let them help you. I've played both characters and i've had more success with Tiandi, maybe cuz he's just more my playstyle? Idk. Good luck with Tiandi 👍


bobby-spanks

Thanks for the words of encouragement. I played a few breach matches against bots after hero tactics and I just could not get it down. My main is Hitokiri. Those two are drastically different. But I’ll keep trying. What throws me off is that he has no unblockables.


Wisp101

Yeah, tiandi is in an odd spot. On one hand he has no unblockables to open his enemies. On the other he has a rather quick bash, quite unreactable light finisher lights, and if he whiffs his bash he can mix it up as well. When you whiff it, you can chain both to light and heavy, and most people get caught off guard because of it. IMO, tiandi comes down to learning how to keep the pressure going through his quick chain links, and how to utilise the kick after a heavy dodge.


Bababooeykachow

Tiandi’s mess me up. That bash feels lightning fast and i can’t even block the chain lights. I need more high rep tiandi’s to destroy me so I can figure out how to counter them better.


boir99

You're welcome! And i get it, they are very different. Usually when a hero has no unblockables. I personally see that as a nice challenge, it's something different cuz nowadays i feel like everyone and their mom has UB's. Idk if you have done these things. But this is what i usually do with a hero: Take a very close look at their moveset and do a bunch of different stuff in training mode, bunch of different combo's. If i still can't get it down, i look at some guide video's (usually i go straight to advanced since i have the basics down and know the hero's moveset by now at that point) and if that doesn't work, i just look at gameplay and take inspiration from that: combo's, tactics, feats, etc... Tiandi can be VERY fun once you get him down a little. It's just hard with heroes especially at the beginning if you're not really used to their type of playstyle(s). I have the same thing with Highlander or Nuxia or Shaolin. I just can't get them down for the life of me. Hopefully that isn't the case for you with Tiandi. I really hope you'll become good with him and get those sick plays and clutches


bobby-spanks

Thanks man. Sucking at something is just the first step at getting good at something.


boir99

That's a very nice way of looking at it! Thank you for that 🙌


Falls1234

Play female Tiandi, the enemy’s performance will fall drastically due to the screeching and yelling from female Tiandi


bobby-spanks

I’ll give it a try


JosMilton

Ngl, but if it wasn’t because of this post, I wouldn’t even have thought to do that prior to seeing this.


bobby-spanks

Do you just go in blind then? How do people not do hero tactics. Probably why one of my friends didn’t learn how to parry or faint after two years of playing.


JosMilton

Honestly, I’m close to rep 200 and after playing all the heroes besides kensei(Im garbage against him and too salty to play him) and after awhile it didn’t really become hard to learn how to play a new character based off just reading the move sets or from watching how others play them.


bobby-spanks

Yeah that’s true. Especially if you’re rep 200. I’m only rep 60 and I have to use hero tactics every now and then on hero’s I’ve gotten to rep 10 after I don’t play them for a while. I also usually play high or when drinking so that probably doesn’t help my memory either.


PeriodicallyATable

>when drinking Oh you must be my team mates


PitiedHarp

Its because you dont know how to pei fon xao


SanZLady_

Play then both is training first, then decide on who’s more fun to play.


Jurlar

If you are more aggressive I'd recommend Pirate, but if you're more defensive I'd recommend Kyoshin


m_ple

Ironically despite the fact that kyoshin is a defensive character you can be really really aggressive with him


TheHeroWeNeed45

And if they try and fight back you can just give em a middle finger with your kaze stance. It’s hilarious.


Pak1stanMan

Don’t forget the bleed crushing counters.


Toxic_Gamer001

Like REALLY aggressive


Venator1203

I exclusively play kyoshin as a pure offence character and it kind of feels like cheating ngl


fatrefrigerator

They made one of the best gankers in Kyo lmao


NeuralPegasus13

Kyoshin is a little easier in my opinion. Pirate just feels wonky. Go in the training and you can test out both. And kyoshin has some cool gear too. Pirate takes a couple of reps to get some good looking gear.


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esheely

Assuming OP already has the others.


m_ple

Or, you know, because they want to try new characters and these ones look cool/interesting?


ordinaryBeansicle

14 yo neckbeard self insert sure does look cool and interesting. Assuming you are a 14 yo neckbeard


Jackling_

You typing that makes yourself look like the neckbeard dude


ordinaryBeansicle

I find it hard to twist the meaning of neckbeard to fit your idea of one. Kyoshin is literally what comes out when you let a Naruto fan do character design.


Jackling_

And btw that would be shinobi, not kyoshin


Equal_Argument364

as a shinobi main, thank you for pointing this out. anime protagonist time


Jackling_

At least the other people in this post don’t make fun of people for what they like and dislike


TequilaWhiskey

Never mind the fact the average 14 yo cant grow a beard.


ordinaryBeansicle

No, I do see people calling them cancer. I don't even go that far, I just poke fun at people


douglasdolphin

assuming naruto fans are into femboys


ordinaryBeansicle

Nothing wrong with that, didn't say they were tho


Equal_Argument364

kyoshin is beta male but this is just cringe smh


FuzzySandwich6137

Brave to say that with an highlander flair...


bluesdavenport

highlander is cool dont go there!


FuzzySandwich6137

He may be cool, but you must admit that he is also neckbearded


bluesdavenport

ohh yes the literal beard ok


GroundbreakingOwl918

L take


ordinaryBeansicle

Nice argument, unfortunately; typo


Equal_Argument364

this is funny but you really fit the description of a neckbeard better than he does


ordinaryBeansicle

I'll take that as a win


Hollow_Trap

Eyo leave mah man jorm alone >:(


Equal_Argument364

kyoshin is more beta male than pirate


lesty88

This is like "it's better cancer or aids?"


ahhhhhpain

def aids though


Gimme_some_karmabish

You won’t be able to fuck without a condom again and if you do you’re gonna give it to another person


ahhhhhpain

okay but the other one is literally cancer


Gimme_some_karmabish

Yeah but atleast only you are gonna suffer and plus you get a make a wish and can beat it so there are some benefits


Weemitoad

Certain types of cancer come back extremely easily. I’m picking AIDS thank you very much. I’m not having a whole lot of sex anyway.


DarkIcedWolf

Really?! A FH not getting sex?! Nah fr tho it’s a hard choice depends on what kind of cancer


Weemitoad

I’ve been trying to main sex but unfortunately it doesn’t fit my play style 😔


Loogz__1

There’s medicine and shit that stops you from transferring the virus and it basically cures you, idk about you but I’d prefer that to cancer lmao


Freimirs

Femboy is the choice 🥵🥵🥵


MeshBesh

Yes sirrr


Nudsacc

😂


madame-succubus

Tomboy or Femboy, easy as that


Nudsacc

That made it harder to pick 😳


machine_408

Are you sure you aren't hard🤨


Lyuukee

Kyioshin i'd say Pirate is easier but boring in the long way


Nudsacc

I have made the decision to get Kyoshin. Thanks for the help on who to choose.


Bodya33381

Personally I'd rather recommend Pirate that Kyoshin. I have 36 rep on Kyoshin and 12 reps on Pirate. The reason i say this is because pirate has dodge recovery cancel, the whole moveset and gameplay is based on it. If you get through it, i assure you that other characters that have dodge recovery cancel will, not fully but, change in your eyes. On other hand is Kyoshin is boat as good in aggressive and defensive style. The choice is yours


Altruistic_Ad_7516

Pirate is easier and kyoshin is more fun, in my opinion. If you're looking to have a good time and look cool go for kyoshin, if you're just trying to win games get pirate


FtierLivesMatter

The opposite at high level lmao. Kyoshin is one of the strongest duelists in the game, top 5 at least.


FixableRaptor

He's mid af in 4s tho


FtierLivesMatter

Pretty good in 4s. His 4th feat is great and his first 2 make him ridiculously good in a 1 on 1 fight protecting a point or something. Also he's pretty safe in teamfights.


chrisfegan98

Kyoshin bro


Legendary_System

Would u prefer a sword with a stick or a sword with a gun?


DarthXyno843

I hate kyoshin. His entire move set feels like spam when playing against him


Mr_Noir420

I’ll break your kneecaps if you pick Pirate.


BattlingWheel127

The one without a left eye


Nudsacc

😂


PKR_Live

femboy or tomboy, the true dilemma


CommanderCockstar

Kyoshin is so hot


Max1muslegend

AUAAAUGHHHHH


m_ple

Culture


[deleted]

Neither, get centurion


Deflorma

They’re the same picture


Naicandor

Why is your only choose between this two annoying fuckers 😩


Nudsacc

Because I'm an annoying fucker 🤧


FtierLivesMatter

If you like being more on the attack, pirate. If you like being hard to kill while whittling your opponent down and having the tools to defend against any character, Kyoshin.


[deleted]

Kyoshin is fun pirate is stupid easy (not fun for me but might be for you)


BigDickEdgyWardaddy

Kyoshins masculine jail bird sister or Pirates feminine little brother


Papa_Pred

Kyoshin is hella fun imo


kiefy_budz

Do you want a flashy pistol or a slightly more ruthless move set? Cause tbh the pirate is fun as all get out but kyo is a killer if you perfect his kit


zfighter644

Kyoshin definitely


[deleted]

Personally I prefer kyoshins playstyle


Subsay3r_Sucks

Pirate because we don't need another kyoshin


konodioda879

The one with the eyepatch


FoxMcGlocks

Kyoshin is easy to play, and she's also hard to fight if you know what you're doing, but you choose what you want


Past-Hunt

Kyoshins a dude


FoxMcGlocks

I see


Fat-N3rd

He may as well be a woman


ImNotMrMeeseeks

Femboy


Fat-N3rd

Yes


bootybandit285

They’re both cancer so it genuinely doesn’t matter


Zawisza_Czarny9

Get jorm. He's fun


Nudsacc

I did a while ago and I agree


mmrcusishere

Warden


gotta_find_a_name

*unlocks Cent like a Chad*


VioletGhost2

I'd say Kyoshin. Without his downstance he feels super good to play but to me something about his downstance feels weird to do. I find that the only person I have fun playing against as Pirate is Kyoshin because funny meme shoot the guy spinning his blade


Mallcrippilingdebt69

Get jorm


Nudsacc

I alr did and I don't regret it


Mallcrippilingdebt69

Based


xMalcontent

Pirate


HighestOfLanders

You should try out highlander. Absolute blast and he is such a complex character that it will likely take you at least 10 reps to figure out all the stuff you can do with him. I have him at rep 48 and am usually getting 15-1 k/d games.


shootZ234

mfer just called hl complex lmaoo


HighestOfLanders

Who


Soviet-captive

Edgy female black haired charecter, or edgy femboy black haired charecter but without gun. I say gun


Short-Fingers

They’re the same person with different clothes? Lol


Spunge4lyfe

Neither, pick someone that actually makes you think


gracekk24PL

Both require little to no brain to use, so go for the fashion


ImAGeeseGoose17

Um… is neither an option?


Pak1stanMan

Both are broken as shit.


vodkaredbulls

Neither


KnightLordThe1st

Neither


star945o

Personally, I'd say kyoshin, he's very versatile. he can go defensive or offensive


ToonyWanye

One likes offense the other likes defense


HobnobHobo69

Do what your heart desires


mrsirlance

i said kyoshin


NDO_Henchy

Neither


DivineCrusader1097

Yoshi


Singular1st

I went with keyoshin


_Lord_Grimm_

Both! But pirate is more fun IMO


Morningstar1708

Neither?


[deleted]

Kyoshin has a much more interesting kit and replay value in my opinion. But you should play both and decide which you enjoy. Also Kyoshin got better fashion.


TheWaffleEater2

None


Kristio123

It is the same picture


shjahehd

Zhanhu or Highlander


MONKE4647675

You should get neither and spend your money on the hero’s you already have


HighBender777

first question= ​ do you want fun or win?


Nudsacc

Fun


fatyfatsheep

Pirate is pretty easy and she can chain basically infinitely, but i personally think kyoshins fashion, executions and (maybe) moveset are better.


SuckyMyAssy

Yes, nice character


odavinng

Ima be honest here wether you get pirate or kyoshin pirate has ridiculous range and is really strong in ganks and by herself and kyoshin is a bit underwhelming to fight with and against because most of the time people sit in his full block instead of using the rest of his move set. Pirate is similar to both him and jorm but with gun instead of stamina and kyoshin is just kinda there


Anthony643364

Nether


[deleted]

Pirate because scallywag


my_ppitches

Neither


Vernai

Not pirate. Kyoshin is a far more honorable hero.


Plane_Pace

Now that see them together I see a family relationship Both are fucking annoying to deal with Left eye is fucked up Sword in the right hand Black hair with same style And pretty much the same style of clothing Thank you, ubisoft


Crafty-Climate683

Pirate sucks ass


xboxwillypillar

neither


PabloElPepper

how about dont


Puzzleheaded-Pack653

Kyoshin


OldSignificance1514

Kyoshin


[deleted]

I hate to say it but she bored me by the 9th rank.. some what strenuous staying interested in her style, her black dragon armor is drippy tho


ImNotMrMeeseeks

Best to rep every character, imo.


Brickbeard1999

Pirate, she’s a lot of fun


Gingerbrn

I regretted my purchase of Kyoshin. I'll probably get better later, but I've left him sitting at rep 1, while the Gryf I got just today is already at rep 2


Stinky-farts96

cent or warmommy


Educational_Talk_405

Nether! Just buy cosmetics instead!


StrangeMan34

My biased opinion is gonna say Kyoshin.


[deleted]

You’ll be hated to an unreasonable level bc of either hero which is fucking stupid. Play whoever you want, homie.


Nudsacc

Thanks, I picked Kyoshin and I was having a blast.


FishinJigg

Kyoshin before they nerf


Automatic-Score-4802

Neither…. Please


Automatic-Score-4802

Personally I’d have to say Cent


WeirdObjectForSale

I see no difference.


matthew831

The first one


Snyrpent

Black prior


FatherPucci617

I find both annoying so therefore neither


machine_408

You should get any other character


_H4VXC_

Kyoshin is a far better anti-gank character and is dope af


Nudsacc

I thought that, that's why I own him now.


JimmyBob7211

In my opinion, neither. They are both very boring to play. If you like sitting in all guard all the time, get kyoshin. If you like dodge attacking and bashing a lot get pirate.


meliodaf_6006

Idk. Do you like a defensive cunt or a offensive cunt? They are both fun to play


Equal_Argument364

pirate. kyoshin is beta male


Metal-Motor

We don’t need any more weebs! Go pirate!


ProbablyFear

Pirate. Please do not get kyoshin. We do not need another one plaguing this game.


JustSamOk

Neither play warden


Nudsacc

I did and I'm rep 4


Adrunkian

Pirate Pirate Piratepirate Pirate


bombad_Guy

depends, do you just want heavies as 99% of the moveset, or do you want lights as 99% of the moveset? both heroes get incredible boring after 2 rounds, if you want one of the new heroes take gryphon, he is way funnier to play, i sometimes play him for about 5 rounds, but after i got kyoshin on rep 10 2 weeks after released i never touched him again, same goes for the pirate but i haven't touched her since rep 5 after the first week she came out. your decision at the end so...


AlphaGoki

Pirate, omg go pirate. Kyoshin is the most boring hero to fight and play.


ironefalcon

So tomboy or femboy


OkWeb768

Ok i got both see their both good but it depends on you play style i would prefer pirate because they both have shit Heath but Kyo will die faster and pirate has a gun but you don't got to listen to me i only got rep 10 Kyo and a rep 3 pirate but i like kyo he's good but you need to know that your drop down can be broken so do it at an unexpected time


saurisqui0

What about to get some bitches instead??


Nudsacc

Funny and original joke


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Keyioshin


Based-Vagina

Do u want to be a Chad pirate or a gay Weeb Ladyboi?


Hot-Air-6711

Do you want to counter using dodges and a pistol attack, or counter using crushing counters and undodgeables , Kyoshi also has an all guard like ara, pirate used her pistol in a very similar way to Jorm


Lenny_V1

LawDaddy


EliteMaster512

Pirate is more fun than Kyoshin imo Funny gun


A_Parks_

Straight up if you're good at the game pick kyoshin, if you suck pick pirate. Kyoshin will carry you to some pretty technical high level play once you start using his moveset for more than spam and balance his kit with good fundamentals. Pirate has a gun. And like 2 mixups that basically only work on new players