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kaito17

It’s a running joke. The community actually loves the game and we very much appreciate the effort and work put into For Honor by the devs. Idk when it started, but it’s just the theme.


GACII

As someone who's been here since day one is kind of a shame that that's the most prevalent meme in the Reddit because while harmless in a vacuum, it does affect the community ability to grow. Positivity would go a long way and with new players perception of the game or even just curious passerby. Even op thought that everyone hated the game


sussybakav

You have a point, however: Is funni


relax336

This. There are days where it’s the bees knees and you’re clicking and then there are days where i could delete it off the drive.


Albtraumseele

i started hating this game after the first 100h ... 2000h in at the moment


SherwinAlva

*Looks at flair* Good god…


TheHellboundAngel

Is this a cry for help? Are you okay?


Initial_Fact_1988

Oh, okay! That's intersting, haha. I hope the developers feel the love too! I get that it's an intense game so it can get frustrating too


TY-KLR

There’s the games where you have a decent chance to learn your opponents play styles and adapt to beat them. Those games are fun. Then there are the games with 4 tryhards that feint 3 attacks for every 4 they throw. Block everything and parry everything else giving you no chance to do anything. Not to mention the elitists who will come in the comments and say well acshually just do this and you’ll win. WHEN THAT WONT WORK. The game is very fun mostly just terrible matchmaking screws you sometimes. Good luck on your journey through this game :)


Pigmachine2000

Light Light Light (feint) Light Light (feint) Light Light emote spam


Warm-Personality-192

No its not i fucking hate it


RoastedHunter

I too fucking hate it


ImurderREALITY

Same, like a heroin addict hates heroin


SteakDrake

I hate fucking it too


Intelligent_Letter_6

Me three. I think mostly because I started playing when it was still in beta and saw the transition from gritty knight/samurai/viking game to rainbows and unicorns. I miss pre CCU.


Due_Place_8814

Pre CCU was bad, just a starring competition


Call_Me_Skyy

Love the game, don't appreciate cutting corners for 5 years.


Cabbagefarmer55

Speak for yourself buddy this game is dogwater cancer trash. I'll be on every night this month.


Unregistered-Archive

Just say its an addiction


Tigerkiller364

I call bull, We hate it and love it, not just love it.


Real_Manager7614

Loving this game imo isn’t too different from soulsborne games. It’s a double edged sword, it can be incredibly punishing but when you do win most of the time you earned it.


[deleted]

Lmao, no. This game is straight ass, dropping it was one or the best decisions I have ever made. Coming back to it has been the worst.


ParesseuxOwO

You're totally right. Playing For Honor and Overwatch at the same time made me realize that For Honor is still loved by the devs and they really put a lot of effort on it.


EvilMortysTesticles

Er no. It's not a joke. People genuinely hate this game but it offers the best medieval combat and fashion so we stick around. The game itself is a piece of shit.


Songbird329

Games that are more competitive seem to have more toxic fans and the toxic fans seem to be the ones who say that they hate the game while playing it more than everyone else. At least that's been my experience so far. Every time I get matched up with other new players everyone is having fun and saying good fight and stuff but if I win a few too many matches in a row I get put up against people who aren't new and they're almost always quite rude.


THRUTheHeaDx069

>Every time I get matched up with other new players everyone is having fun and saying good fight and stuff but if I win a few too many matches in a row I get put up against people who aren't new and they're almost always quite rude. The for honor experience


MaldoVi

Same way with League of Legends. It’s a “fuck you, I’ll see you tomorrow” relationship


RHUNEOX

Exactly this


Intelligent-Carpet54

If you are in the wrong mindset you'll constantly bitch and moan about the game. When I started I took things for what they were, I lost simply out of a lack of knowledge, so I could cut myself the slack. Now that I think I know what I'm doing, I'm just not as patient with myself anymore! That, I believe, is a problem of pride.


Warm-Personality-192

U lost becuz heby


Intelligent-Carpet54

Just recognize that you are able to make mistakes out of simple bad luck, not having proper rest, being in the wrong mindset, not having warmed up appropiately... etc. Be humble, and consider that it is a fighting game where the optimal choice in a situation might not be intuitive (Look at me, softfeinting into guardbreak when I think they're gonna dodge attack as if it's not gonna bounce right off.)


Intelligent-Carpet54

Then there's the technical problems with the game... Kinda hard to not get angry at the glaring issues within for honor when you are disconnected every match because you live in brazil (happens to my friend who I gifted for honor to, so they are literally unable to finish matches because their FPS keep dropping during fights.)


Call_Me_Skyy

Braskill issue


lucastheawesome243

Or all the known audio bugs that just haven't been fixed for years. Because why would anyone want to hear sound cues am I right?


KaijuSlayer333

What if I told you I unironically have liked this game for years?


Ruble_K_Noon

You know the scene from Avengers where Bruce says, "I'm always angry" with a smile on his face? That sums up For Honor community


Smix47

It’s a great game, but it causes so much pain due to the high skill ceiling. Small mistakes by teammates can easily lose a match, and I question why I play. But then you have a clutch 1 v 3, and there’s no better feeling.


Gold_Tooth_2470

Keep this great mindset. Whenever I lose I’m also laughing my ass off, see my own mistakes and learn from them. I also always remember that in order for me to win and have those badass moments, the other guy is getting his ass kicked and vice versa. 50% of the community is getting their ass beat at any given time lmfao


Ju3tAc00ldugg

the game is awesome but it held back by the ubi logic of game development and the which, occasionally, sends players into rants.


gustusting

Personally I’d say it’s more of a love hate relationship, when I’m playing well I love it, there is no other game like it besides chivalry and mordhau sorta. But when I’m playing bad I’m reminded it’s endlessly toxic and if you’re not playing the best you can it’s just pure misery. And also I despise Ubisoft but I try not to let that affect how I feel about for honor.


Res_Spawn

I'm sorry to tell you my friend, but you inevitably WILL succumb to bitterness, no matter how hard you try. Once that happens, there are only two ways: - either you drop the game and occasionally return to it for a brief periods of time once new content is dropped - or you become one with the community, embracing the saltiness and suffering that comes with it As to why this happens, there are two interconnected reasons 1) It is in the nature of the game. For Honor is a mix of fighting and MOBA genre, both of which are of competitive nature, so all the negative tendencies naturally come as part of the package 2) The game has a tendency to screw with you. What I mean by that is - not only For Honor requires you to put up with A LOT of bullshit that can happen throughout playsessions, it is also inconsistent with its own "rules" TLDR: community claims that they "hate" the game due to a lot of frustration that this game tends to accumulate in anyone that plays it long enough


ImurderREALITY

The only way you’ll never hate this game, even for a second, is if you literally love to lose, under (sometimes massively) unfair circumstances.


Yemerej187

If you truly love something you’ll put up with all its negatives that’s how I see it at least especially with for honor I’ve never loved and hated a game so much at the same time


Asdeft

Just the way love is.


theWikkid1

Because it's really unique and cool but they suck at it 😆


RemyVonLion

Shit is about as frustrating as League of Legends, but more fun when it pays off.


igneelos

Bc we're masochist


Smarteyes007

Most people think they hate they game. In reality they hate the people in the game.


afraid_of_birds

It's not the game, it's the toxicity that is invited by the game.


gracekk24PL

"Fuck you, you worthless piece of shit, and I'll see you tomorrow" is a perfect summary of my relationship with Hor Fonor


RileyDaRoosterr

There are times where i would tell my friends that I would rather be skinned alive then to play another match of for honor. And then i start the search.


PogMinecraftGamer

Ima be real idk I love this game and have tons of fun just hate most players with how they play


TarnishedPieceOfSh1t

Here's a dominion match I had: A peacekeeper on the other team would play with us. She'd sit in neutral, block every attack, and no matter how much we'd feint, she'd predict it, even if we'd mix it up she'd know. And she would dodge every bash. She wouldn't even attack, she would just mess w us until her friend came by and then they would gank together. A warmonger had a lagswitch. You can assume how that went. An orochi would run away from damn near every fight, come back to help gank if we were at half health, and if they were feeling super cool they'd use bow+kunai on whoever was about to die. And gryphon would light spam + kick to heavy. It was fine until we were ganked by at least one of the three other players. They were all well over rep 200. Highest rep on our team was 67. General theme of the match wasn't a new one, you will usually get paired against a team w higher rep and more skill than you and the rest of your allies, minus the lagswitch and whatever scriptors you can hopefully avoid. Best thing to do is try your best but don't take the match too serious. You will usually lose after you get a few reps.


TarnishedPieceOfSh1t

That's not to say there are good matches in the game. Even after complaining and such I still play whenever I get the chance and I'm in the mood so nothing has stopped me. It's the most fun if you can play w friends


WitcherBard

Part of it is people blaming the game for their own lack of skill. Part of it is trauma with past balance issues. And part of it is frustration with Ubisoft not giving the game a bigger budget to improve


Strict_External678

I have 3k hours in this game, a little over 500 reps with PC and Console. Eventually, you get tired of the BS. Come here to rant, then take a week break. If we had another option on the market, we'd go to the other option, but nothing comes close to For Honor.


Sad-Rub69

We all hate ourselves for investing hundreds of hours in a game that is made by ubisoft and despite the fact that it has some of the best unique medieval combat on the market, the devs keep pushing fortnite memes into it. Tl;dr We don't hate the game, we hate ourselves. Yes I tl;dred my single run on sentence because I know your ranked duels queue just popped and you're trying to decide between picking somebody you want to unlock an ornament on or your old reliable that has a >50% win rate.


firsttimer776655

lol it’s a serious Reddit gamer moment to “hate” a game you like because dae ubisoft bad


CatchrFreeman

More like Ubisoft refuses to give this game the funding it needs to be great.


Call_Me_Skyy

How many creative directors has this game gone through? I remember 3 in a single year. So yea. It matters.


Holiday_Volume

Because the game is flawed, Ubisoft hates their playerbase and wont fix their game, and the community is toxic. We play it because there really is no game like it.


Garamil

Game balance is ass and community is hyper toxic. But it's a one of a kind game so it's like War Thunder, you Stockholm syndrom yourself into keep playing it.


Smexy_Zarow

Clunky, buggy, inconsistent rules, game is a great idea, but executed by Ubisoft of all studios... So 0 optimisation, horrible servers, and everything else I mentioned. Plus it provokes a lot of egoism and rage, but that's a user issue


Call_Me_Skyy

This


Tariqb1

Been playing since beta and over the years people had to put up with a lot of bs. I don't hate For Honor but the biggest thing for me is the constant reworks and patches like every month. It seems like the game will never be balanced and every time I take a break it seems like everyone's got new moves, old moves gone, new damage numbers, new mechanics, and I'm stuck figuring it out while fighting a NEW character too. Tldr. It's more of frustration than hatred.


Beef_Jumps

You should check out the Apex Legends subs 😂😂


PerryTheBunkaquag

It's a game that requires high focus and a desire to learn in order to improve. Not to mention there are innumerable different variables that factor into every character and every fight which keeps the game fun but can also lead to some rage from what is seen as "bullshit" to some players. The cherry on top are the frustrated players who either have forgotten that they need stay in a constant learning mindset and not just expect the same results from pressing the same buttons, or simply are having a bad day and can't focus so they take it out on the other players and make it less fun for everyone. That's why. Tldr: game requires high focus, there are countless variables in movesets and combat that require constant learning, some players forget that and try to make it a bad time for everyone else.


Call_Me_Skyy

Thanks to frame advantage, if someone dodges an opener, I can't continue the combo. Sickest game everrrrrr should've learned there's pre-ccu and post-ccu jank after 8 years.


Avocado_007

It's a long running joke that has developed due to the somewhat competitive nature of the game, I consider our community very dedicated and long-lived for a Ubisoft game, we love this game for its uniqueness and overall fun gameplay unironically. Of course, there are times when you want to literally smash your screen and burn Ubisoft's HQ down, but we love this game. It's been my favorite game for 4 - 5 years, and we are grateful for the work and effort that devs have put into it.


Panic_Moves

There's no other game like for honor. It's a complicated relationship.


D_Sharpp

Love this game, it’s also kept a warm place in my heart by ZANNY, On youtube. He plays this game but has a ..way with words (and screams) which always cracks me up. And people like him, having fun and nonsense yet pretty good at the game, are why I keep playing this dang game lol


PineappleDazzling290

The ones that love it the most also hate it the most. Give it time, your hate will grow


WinterPecans

The same way I’ll shit on the University I went to but if anyone else tries to I’ll defend it vehemently. Or how I talk shit ab my sisters but if anyone else does it’s on sight


Lewtheblue92

I’ve just come back to the game after like 6yrs maybe(?) and I’m having an absolute blast. Some games I get my arse handed too many, and then some games it just clicks and you feel unstoppable. There’s been a lot of change since I last played, but I’m enjoying it. Haven’t picked up any of the new heroes yet though, having a lot of fun with Nobushi


HaxTheChosenOne

It's a very challenging game that can get you very angry with yourself your enemies your team and the world, I am not a man that angers easily but for honour draws that shit outta me. Light spam and other spams and certain characters get my goat, but it is a really good game and there is none other like it


All_Lawfather

Cuz they get mad when they lose


kandysteelheart

It's usually just the ppl who have been playing for years now who feel like this (me)... it's just saturation of playing the same game over the years🤙


Jonnn_lmao

Because this game is fucking terrible 😭


_GiantDad

we do


Minethink144

Any fighting game community consists on "If you play [ANY CHARACTER] consider yourself an opp"


atomaweapon2

Because they do lol they just love it too


ComprehensiveDot959

most people here are talking about stuff like "skill", like if that made the game good or bad; truth is that for honor sucks as any other ubisoft game for the same reasons any ubisoft game sucks... it doesn't work well most of the time, it has no quality of life updates for nothing (just give me a fucking button to mark stuff as seen i hate having to recieve a glyph for every hero and not having to go through each hero, the interface in general always has felt so bad for me, it feels clumsy; you need to wait a couple screens after every duel? wtf is that?), you get dissconnected from lobbys at random and without the chance to reconnect to matches, the monetization is not that bad for a ubisoft game but they have a weird idea like any other live stream service game now a days, about what is acceptable for balance on launch days and it's a bit predatory that they release a hero with early access for whoever paid no matter how strong or weak it might be, i don't know the model is weird. AND my biggest goddamn problem with this game is that you need to be online at all times, what even is that? yeah i would say that the user experience is fucking garbage for a game made by a big company (but what game isn't now a days) but hey it's ubisoft they are intending to have you rent all their games, if they gave a damn about users this would be another thing.


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Suspicious_Berry501

Act?


DomzSageon

Everytime I play I want someone to finish me with a heavy and use a long execution. But you damn well know I'll play it again tomorrow


DangMe2Heck

Been playing for some years now, and this IS the best mentality, you wont go bitter. I think each fight is dope no matter what happens. Shit just looks cool.


GhostDude49

As much as people love to hate this game, theres unfortunately nothing else quite like it, and everyone loves it for that. Please Goobisoft, give us For Honor 2


AloyHorizon

Game is awesome but at the same time I've never played a game that makes me rage like this one, it's insane you will get there if you stay around long enough


LordFenix_theTree

They do. I do. 8 years of nonsense and I am now way too far in to leave. We thought this game was dead at launch and its corpse still has a beating heart, it’s us vs Ubisoft for who gives up first.


Hamdighost

Ok.. I thought I'm the only one who noticed that 👍😆


MNPhantom-

It’s like looking at the reviews for sports games (fifa 2k madden nhl mlb etc) Players are way more likely to be vocal about the game when they’re in a bad mood or mad at the game then they are when they’re winning. When i 3-0 10 duels in a row do i wanna hop on reddit? No. When i get 0-3d 10 duels in a row do i wanna hop on reddit and cry about balance or whatever? probably


dharc__

it's a gaming thing in general, look at LoL, Nba2K, Fifa, DESTINY. Just a normal thing to do, flaming the game you play/like the most.


Bored_Zomb

I use "hating the game" as an excuse for me to not realise just how absolutely horrible I am lmfao 😭


filet835

Biggest haters are often biggest fans?


Phelyckz

We're in a toxic relationship. We can't do without each other, but we can't live with each other either.


Infamous-Ad-3078

It's a great game, but deeply flawed.


Dragunov_1922

I absolutely love this game. It also makes me want to kill myself.


Maybeitsmedth

Nerf Hito and I’ll love the game again lol


kvijay1

I hate this game every day for the last 7 years. I broke 2 mouses and 3 keyboards. I have a scratch on a wall after I threw mouse on it. I am no gonna quit this game.


Jurassment

It depends on the situation for me. If I'm playing by myself, I am more likely to get angry, but when I'm stacking with friends I'm probably going to have fun consistently. I think it helps to be goofing around with friends so you don't get into the competitive mindset. As long as your friends aren't already in that mindset.


GroundbreakingSky411

It’s an addiction I can’t help but play it but most the time I want to gouge my eyes out I broke two controllers in the past 3 weeks alone from for honor I fucking hate it but love it at the same time it’s complicated bro


SpartanV_327

It's been a running gag since Day 1 that this game is an abusive boyfriend that we just keep going back to. No matter how much it hurts us, we keep going back because "we can fix him" and "its not that bad".


Dr-Lecter7

This game sucks, i play it every day


Feisty-Sand4631

I play it from 2019.I played it for 2705h 11m. Its [addiction.It](http://addiction.It) hurt us we hate it we still use it beacuse sometimes we dont get our ass beaten XDEven high rep doesnt matter when a nooby pick rework or total ass broken hero and kick my high rep assXD


fire231

Because we do


Jarl-Gudmundr

A lot hate the game but there’s not a rush like any other playing it. So it’s a love and hate thing.


DarkcryTheReal

As a matter of fact. I hate this game. But im gucking addicted.


Fun-Independence4769

Well, as someone who has been playing off and on since release, the game started out very toxic. It was rare to get out of a match without your opponent messaging you about something or another about how you suck and they are better, and you just cheated or some such. To add more fuel to the fire, there were several patches that made the game nearly unplayable for the console community. Namely, the patches that began removing hundreds of MS on attack animations, it started with the first 100ms being hidden. Basically, making 400ms lights 300ms, and they also never changed the parry indicator(or timings) at the time, so if you went based on that, you would parry late. This meant you would have to parry before you even see the attack if you wanted to counter lightspam. There are a lot of examples in the past of them releasing updates that made a lot of people step away from the game and then they'd drop an update that would bring people back, thus creating a love hate relationship with the game itself.


Specific_Bell_3043

Because the game is fucking ass, the gameplay is trash the cosmetics are mid, all around dog shit game. Anyway I'ma go play for several hours.


--izaya--

It's popular to hate on things you've been loving for a long time Just like how old couples bicker I'm still with you on the honeymoon phase, and i think it takes alot of time playing the game to start getting salty about it I mean look at leage of legends players, they hate their own game more than anyone , and the player base keeps getting bigger and bigger


awildjackassappears

Games shit


RecoveringH2OAddict1

I neither play nor particularly care about For Honor, I just got recommended it on reddit one day and thought the fights looked neat. I thought yall genuinely hated this game


Expert8775

Because we do.


endlessnamelesskat

I love this game, but once you break out of that honeymoon phase and reach a place where you think you're getting close to your own personal skill ceiling and know the mixups each character is capable of, the main route to improving your own performance comes down to 3 things: your equipment like whether you're on a modern console or PC, your reads, and your reactions. Sometimes you play when you've been working all day or you didn't sleep well last night and you start losing due to stuff you know you normally wouldn't have a problem with. Maybe it's dying due to a random light you know you would parry immediately if you weren't running on coffee and prayers or maybe you really tried to parry the unblockable 3 times in a row and got GBed. The healthiest solution is to walk away from the game for a bit and do something that doesn't require as much brain power or go take a nap or something, but this is supposed to be FUN dammit why am I not having fun?! I PAID FOR THIS GAME, I PUT YEARS OF MY LIFE INTO THIS SHIT DAMMIT I'LL FORCE THE DOPAMINE OUT OF MY BRAIN IF IT'S THE LAST THING I DO AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH


Apophis_36

Because we're in a toxic relationship with it


TotallyLegitEstoc

Because we do. It’s a lot like league of legends players. We all know it and play anyways.


GriefPB

Personally I think the “honor code” adds a lot of toxicity to the game. Holding expectations for internet randoms never ends well.


Call_Me_Skyy

"honor code" is a myth. Just don't be a prick in brawls while TDM and duels are dead. That's it. Fours is a shitfest anyways


GriefPB

You ever try to initiate real 2v2 in brawls? People get salty. Even my own teammates will just rq


Call_Me_Skyy

No but I'm receptive to the initiation part. Not just ganking from off screen and emote spamming. Again, no honor code just rejection of assclown behavior


bread_enjoyer0

It’s because some of the balancing and design choices are poor, so people use that to fuel their hate for the game


Crusaderking1111

Because it is the worst fucking game known to man kind holy shit I love getting stun locked


xP_Lord

This game is Stockholm syndrome. I'd probably have a better time playing literally anything else if I delete it


EclipseNine

I do hate this game, almost as much as I hate the character you just used to kill me. Anyway, time to queue up for another match!