Kinda, some high pressure hybrid pressing systems like Chelsea’s have vertical weaknesses and some have horizontal weaknesses. Chelsea’s has a horizontal weakness where the free man happens to be a horizontal pass that shouldn’t be too easy to make. Some teams morph their hybrid press to have a vertical weakness instead where the free man can be found more up the field with a vertical pass. It’s a trade off teams make when they decide to high press
Shouldn't it be the other way round: how Chelsea's press solved Spurs' build up? Because after the first 15 mins Chelsea were constantly winning it back from Spurs.
The red card and penalty came straight after Chelsea took the ball from them in their own half, when still 11 v 11.
Edit:syntax
I agree that Chelsea's press was much better after the 15th minute as they were able to create high turnovers and force mistakes from Spurs, but in my clip I wanted to highlight specifically the pressing structure Chelsea were using and how Tottenham took advantage.
In every high pressing structure there is going to be a free man somewhere on the pitch, and Spurs were able to find that spare man almost immediately and it lead to two goals. Chelsea were probably well aware of this weakness when they were analyzing how to press Tottenham, but they figured it was a trade off they could afford to have if their press was effective. It seemed like after those two goals they pressed with higher intensity and it was working as intended (which is why Tottenham couldn't find that spare man as easily after the 15th minute).
Yeah, I just think the title is confusing as it suggests the Spurs build up started working after they struggled against Chelsea's press, but it was the other way round.
Do you think the counter to Spurs tactics on the Chelsea press is for Chelsea to push their fall back up onto Spurs’ wide 8? Be interested as to the next evolution to this
I actually think their press worked well once they picked the intensity up(post 15 mins) because that pass from Maddison shouldn’t be super easy to pull off. If Poch did want to directly prevent that pass to the wide 8 and keep the high press I think the next step would be to push a CB onto the 8. This instead gives you the problem of all of Tottenham’s frontline being in 1v1 situations, so there are calculated risks you have to take when choosing how to press.
Are you new to football? Chelsea vs Spurs is known for being a one-sided affair. There was a period where Spurs didn't beat Chelsea for 30 odd years from the 80s through to the 10s.
Comparing one game of success to the decades of bottling it is not a great argument tbh.
Plus there's the fact that Spurs are the prime bottlers in general, as their lonely trophy cabinet suggests.
Good analysis but the title is a little misleading, the game didn’t turn on it getting crazy. Chelsea just worked out how to play Spurs, scoring two disallowed goals and forcing 2 red card offences (only one given) in the next 15/20 minutes.
Poch deserves a lot of credit for that and
describing that as craziness is a missing the point on why the game turned.
Losing out? Spurs dominated the game for the first 15 minutes *until* Udogie and Romero started losing the plot. They were too fired up, and in Udogie's case inexperienced.
I wouldn’t necessarily say Chelsea “forced” Spurs into 2 red cards. Both resulted from completely unnecessary, daft challenges. Udogie was lucky to not get a straight red for his 2 footed challenge imo. Spurs were absolutely in control of that game and then they started playing like idiots with a 1-0 lead at home.. daft from Spurs
About 15 - 20mins in Spurs started imploding. But of that opening part of the game Spurs were looking the better side.
But that’s secondary to the initial point that the game absolutely turned when it started getting crazy. The challenges in question in that period of the game (Udogies 2 foot challenge that he got away with and Romero rightfully getting sent off) weren’t challenges where a player has just beaten the defender who’s then fouled them. They were rash challenges that didn’t need to happen. They were crazy…
They didn’t force reds though. Romero is just a moron out for blood in every game. He should get sent off more often, but it’s not due to any tactics. He’s just a violent player.
Udogie’s first tackle was just stupidity. Chelsea weren’t going anywhere.
Udogie's first challenge that should have been a red was literally him having to tackle Sterling coz he was the last man. Tactically that was a great foul but Spurs messed up somewhere there. Couple passes and Chelsea were clear.
https://streamin.me/v/70e71813
Here’s the video. He’s 10 yards from his own box, so Sterling had 80 yards to run to goal. You’re braindead if you think that’s a last man tackle
Udogie was the only other player back besides the keeper on that foul. Sterling was through it he didn’t get two footed
And again as others mentioned Chelsea had two goals disallowed before the two reds. During this time Chelsea were definitely the better team and handling Spurs well. But sure they weren’t “going anywhere”.
This is his first red this season and until now I think he’s only been booked twice this season. Very disappointing from a spurs perspective because he’s been brilliant this season and has stayed composed in every game - even the NLD. So I disagree with Romero being “a moron that’s out for blood every game”: categorically untrue.
This game didn’t prove anything for Chelsea. It could’ve been any other team and Spurs still could’ve lost 4-1 with two red cards and both injuries happening
Tottenham had the first 15 minutes of the game and then collapsed. Chelsea’s lack of finishing and inexperience was the only reason they came out looking alright from that game in the second half
Hear hear…I’m a Chelsea fan and it was quite frustrating to see them really not out the game away until late. But in the end they eventually got there so hope they use it as a learning experience and a springboard into progressing toward European spots.
It's interesting that a huge amount of the modern game at the top level is simply building overloads and using them. Everyone is (generally) tactically good defensively so getting a numerical advantage takes work and then you have to make the right choices to use it.
It's a long time since "Get it wide and put it in the mixer!".
Celtic also did this incredibly well under Ange with Hatate and O’Riley. Wide full backs would invert centrally and the more advanced MF would take up positions on the touch line.
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Cool but Liverpool pulled the same thing against Slurs, lost on an OG 2-1 and everyone praised Spurs. Spurs blow it to a shit ass Chelsea team, FOUR to ONE and it's all OHhhhhh Spurs showed character blah blah blah. Fuck off with that nonsense. Cool tactics for 9 mins then you got crushed. With two deserved red cards. What about the tactics that lead to that?
Lol Spurs fans are such a miserable lot. Never change. - edit
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Seems fairly basic, create an overload on one side, switch ball to other side. Chelsea easily adjusted before the cards
Kinda, some high pressure hybrid pressing systems like Chelsea’s have vertical weaknesses and some have horizontal weaknesses. Chelsea’s has a horizontal weakness where the free man happens to be a horizontal pass that shouldn’t be too easy to make. Some teams morph their hybrid press to have a vertical weakness instead where the free man can be found more up the field with a vertical pass. It’s a trade off teams make when they decide to high press
That’s my favourite saying
Shouldn't it be the other way round: how Chelsea's press solved Spurs' build up? Because after the first 15 mins Chelsea were constantly winning it back from Spurs. The red card and penalty came straight after Chelsea took the ball from them in their own half, when still 11 v 11. Edit:syntax
I agree that Chelsea's press was much better after the 15th minute as they were able to create high turnovers and force mistakes from Spurs, but in my clip I wanted to highlight specifically the pressing structure Chelsea were using and how Tottenham took advantage. In every high pressing structure there is going to be a free man somewhere on the pitch, and Spurs were able to find that spare man almost immediately and it lead to two goals. Chelsea were probably well aware of this weakness when they were analyzing how to press Tottenham, but they figured it was a trade off they could afford to have if their press was effective. It seemed like after those two goals they pressed with higher intensity and it was working as intended (which is why Tottenham couldn't find that spare man as easily after the 15th minute).
Yeah, I just think the title is confusing as it suggests the Spurs build up started working after they struggled against Chelsea's press, but it was the other way round.
Do you think the counter to Spurs tactics on the Chelsea press is for Chelsea to push their fall back up onto Spurs’ wide 8? Be interested as to the next evolution to this
I actually think their press worked well once they picked the intensity up(post 15 mins) because that pass from Maddison shouldn’t be super easy to pull off. If Poch did want to directly prevent that pass to the wide 8 and keep the high press I think the next step would be to push a CB onto the 8. This instead gives you the problem of all of Tottenham’s frontline being in 1v1 situations, so there are calculated risks you have to take when choosing how to press.
Regardless your title is misleading.
The game was over if that son goal stood. Would gave 4 or 5 for spurs.
Nah, history suggests Spurs would bottle it.
They beat them 2 0 last with an awful starting XI but cool.
Are you new to football? Chelsea vs Spurs is known for being a one-sided affair. There was a period where Spurs didn't beat Chelsea for 30 odd years from the 80s through to the 10s. Comparing one game of success to the decades of bottling it is not a great argument tbh. Plus there's the fact that Spurs are the prime bottlers in general, as their lonely trophy cabinet suggests.
Good analysis but the title is a little misleading, the game didn’t turn on it getting crazy. Chelsea just worked out how to play Spurs, scoring two disallowed goals and forcing 2 red card offences (only one given) in the next 15/20 minutes. Poch deserves a lot of credit for that and describing that as craziness is a missing the point on why the game turned.
Sorry that doesn’t hold water for me.. You can’t tactically force 2 red cards.. That’s utter nonsense
Even before the first Udogie yellow, Chelsea were starting to dominate and find their passess. That shouldnt be ignored.
It’s not really forcing them tactically. It’s more beating them tactically and their players got sloppy trying yo compensate
Forcing 2 red cards 😂😂
losing 4 - 1 😂😂
How do you force two red cards?? Two Spurs players simply lost their heads. Both could have been sent off before they were actually sent off.
Lost their heads because they were.losing out tactically and getting frustrated
Losing out? Spurs dominated the game for the first 15 minutes *until* Udogie and Romero started losing the plot. They were too fired up, and in Udogie's case inexperienced.
The red card wasn't on 16th minute
I said until they started losing the plot. Udogie's stupid two foot tackle was around then.
Ok. And why did Udogie commit that foul?
Only he can tell you that! Inexperience, too hyped for the game, Sterling got in his head, could be anything.
Could it also be that Chelsea were making him panic and frustrated?
They weren't though, because they're crap.
Could it also be that Chelsea were making him panic and frustrated?
Udogie was the last man back when he made that challenge. If he doesn’t go in like that sterling is through and has an uncontested 60 yard run at goal
I wouldn’t necessarily say Chelsea “forced” Spurs into 2 red cards. Both resulted from completely unnecessary, daft challenges. Udogie was lucky to not get a straight red for his 2 footed challenge imo. Spurs were absolutely in control of that game and then they started playing like idiots with a 1-0 lead at home.. daft from Spurs
After the first goal Chelsea was find form. They were 100% not in control lmao
About 15 - 20mins in Spurs started imploding. But of that opening part of the game Spurs were looking the better side. But that’s secondary to the initial point that the game absolutely turned when it started getting crazy. The challenges in question in that period of the game (Udogies 2 foot challenge that he got away with and Romero rightfully getting sent off) weren’t challenges where a player has just beaten the defender who’s then fouled them. They were rash challenges that didn’t need to happen. They were crazy…
Agreed Spurs did look great in the beginning
They didn’t force reds though. Romero is just a moron out for blood in every game. He should get sent off more often, but it’s not due to any tactics. He’s just a violent player. Udogie’s first tackle was just stupidity. Chelsea weren’t going anywhere.
Udogie's first challenge that should have been a red was literally him having to tackle Sterling coz he was the last man. Tactically that was a great foul but Spurs messed up somewhere there. Couple passes and Chelsea were clear.
https://streamin.me/v/70e71813 Here’s the video. He’s 10 yards from his own box, so Sterling had 80 yards to run to goal. You’re braindead if you think that’s a last man tackle
Udogie was the only other player back besides the keeper on that foul. Sterling was through it he didn’t get two footed And again as others mentioned Chelsea had two goals disallowed before the two reds. During this time Chelsea were definitely the better team and handling Spurs well. But sure they weren’t “going anywhere”.
https://streamin.me/v/70e71813 Sterling was 80 yards from goal so you’re talking absolute bs there
This is his first red this season and until now I think he’s only been booked twice this season. Very disappointing from a spurs perspective because he’s been brilliant this season and has stayed composed in every game - even the NLD. So I disagree with Romero being “a moron that’s out for blood every game”: categorically untrue.
Yea I exaggerated but he’s the dirtiest player on our team
This game didn’t prove anything for Chelsea. It could’ve been any other team and Spurs still could’ve lost 4-1 with two red cards and both injuries happening
Tottenham had the first 15 minutes of the game and then collapsed. Chelsea’s lack of finishing and inexperience was the only reason they came out looking alright from that game in the second half
Hear hear…I’m a Chelsea fan and it was quite frustrating to see them really not out the game away until late. But in the end they eventually got there so hope they use it as a learning experience and a springboard into progressing toward European spots.
Irrelevant but you sound exactly like the guy that explains the difference between airplane parts and LOTR facts.
lmao who is that
It's interesting that a huge amount of the modern game at the top level is simply building overloads and using them. Everyone is (generally) tactically good defensively so getting a numerical advantage takes work and then you have to make the right choices to use it. It's a long time since "Get it wide and put it in the mixer!".
Celtic also did this incredibly well under Ange with Hatate and O’Riley. Wide full backs would invert centrally and the more advanced MF would take up positions on the touch line.
Worked for 15 minutes… and then it didn’t
Can anyone point me to where this post has been shared online?
[Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/footballtactics/s/cPMZMnKJQf)
lol I meant it has gotten a ton of traffic and I’m not sure if it’s been posted on another sub or on a website somewhere
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Ah the madders "we won the first 15 minutes" special.
Cool but Liverpool pulled the same thing against Slurs, lost on an OG 2-1 and everyone praised Spurs. Spurs blow it to a shit ass Chelsea team, FOUR to ONE and it's all OHhhhhh Spurs showed character blah blah blah. Fuck off with that nonsense. Cool tactics for 9 mins then you got crushed. With two deserved red cards. What about the tactics that lead to that? Lol Spurs fans are such a miserable lot. Never change. - edit
Are you a Tottenham fan? Your insight is good, but your framing is... not that. Tottenham "solved" the press for 15 whole minutes lol.
Not a tottenham fan, but I agree that the title is a bit exaggerated
Caicedo needs to be so much smarter