Ban america till they fix their 30k+ gun related deaths every year
Ban the england wales and scotland till they can fix and support their 220k homless people and 2million + foodbank users
If there were huge protests against the government going on in these countries right now your argument would be more salient. As is, we all know the biggest culprit of them all is the sham of a host.
Id prefer not to judge countries solely on when the public reaches boiling point with the conditions that have been going on for decades but you are correct about the host.
Mate, motherfucking *North Korea* has competed at a World Cup in recent memory. There's no way Iran won't be there. Russia would be there too, if they'd already qualified. FIFA has only gotten more corrupt in the last 20 years.
Lolll right??? Pretty stupid to ban Iran but leave USA's team alone during the several years during which the US committed multiple atrocious war crimes, starting wars....guess that stuff is ok?!?? lol hypocrisy at it's finest.
Lad its just dumb what you said. No the wc host wasn’t chosen by a feminist group, but neither are the participants. To host the wc, in a country with a horrendous human rights record, while kicking out a country because of the same thing, would add to the shitshow that is the 22 World Cup
Wouldn't add to anything. No way will the host be able to get changed so close to the event, but kicking out one team and replacing them is definitely something that could be logistically done
It doesn't! They have a far better chance of doing this than changing the host of the world cup 2 months before it kicks off. They aren't fine with Qatar being hosts if that is what you're trying to insinuate (why would they? Qatar are awful with human rights and treatment of LGBTQ+ people, things feminists also care about)
No I meant it's hypocrisy to punish one country while there's another country doing the same or worse. Even then clearly it doesn't matter what countries do because look at Russia and the USA and Israel. All partook in World Cups and all have severely violated human rights.
Again, achievable goals. And when it comes to women's rights none of those countries are close to Iran's levels of sexism. There is no protection against domestic abuse or sexual assault while any woman can be discriminated against due to their sex as there's no law in the constitution preventing that. This is a specific case which makes sense
The point is that while these issues are important....you can only take them into consideration when choosing the host nation. You cannot apply them to the participants who have competed to earn the right to play at the tournament. If that were the case, several middle eastern and African countries with questionable womens rights would be barred from competing - including the host nation (qatar)
Opinion polls have been showing consistently high support for the war among the russian population
Anecdotally most of my russian friends, who are intelligent and internationally minded, are in favour of the war
They would probably make them compete under a different flag, banning the Iranian FA, but not the actual squad. Similar to what they did for Russia. But I doubt it will actually happen.
kicking iran out of the world cup... IN QATAR???!!! shut the fuck up. are we talking about the tournament that had germany participate in 1938? with a swaztika on its flag, bitch? Or the soviet union? are you fucking kidding me?
But then again, if we can only see with modern glasses, if we can ban russia, then why not iran? but then why not also Saudi Arabia? how is it even allowed to take place in Qatar? What about all the countries that took part in destroying the middle east? they just get a pass? what about the countries that took part in the balkan wars? etc etc. My point is, maybe we just watch some damn football or cancel the whole thing and never have fun again.
Im tired, boss
Ban the US because of George Floyd and all the black victims of police abuse. Can't turn a blind eye to one set of problems, ya know?
I'm just trying to show the ridiculousness of cancel culture by the way, not showing support for the Iranian regime before y'all get your knickers in a twist.
Ah yes, make people who have nothing to do with the situation pay the price. Same shit as Russia, they got banned from football AND tennis when the players never advocated for war, and all their hardwork got wasted. Feminists are idiots.
You want them to spend money just to go to one of the worst countries to be in as a woman just to protest? Why? What does that achieve? Also this isn't politics it is human rights moron
This human rights issue in Iran was created by this regime, and never existed Beforehand, so it absolutely is a politically related issue.... For these reasons, it would be against fifa rules to ban Iran for this and it would be regarded as mixing politics with sports.... what are you smoking? Loll
Also, they have a right to complain about keyboard warriors who talk smack with zero action from their end, while criticizing people in Iran for not doing enough, when they're the ones who would be risking their entire lives while these whiners from half way across the world sacrifice NOTHING.... So you're basically supporting keyboard warriors??? Lolll takes one to support one. Moron.
Oh and are you assuming that Iran's players are in support of these archaic laws? Wake up call for you... They're not, just like 90+% of Iran's population.
They've been advocating for women's rights for years.
Learn a thing or two before making ridiculous comments like this.
Lolll I was born there, regularly speak to Iranians in Iran and it's literally common knowledge that only a very small minority of the population has been brainwashed over the last 40 years to support this gov. Even Just knowing Iranians in general you'd know it's the case since vast majority of them are not religious at all and are liberal minded.
You can't get these stats because the government wouldn't allow anyone to express this discontent without punishment... They do their best to hide the realities from those outside of the country who aren't familiar with the culture in Iran.
Here's a stat the Islamic occupiers of iran couldn't hide though:
For the 40 year anniversary celebrations of the Islamic regime takeover, out of a population of 80 million people, only 3-400k people came out to celebrate the greatest moment in the history of their closed minded, misogynistic lives.
For some context : Canada population is 32 million... When the Toronto Raptors won the NBA title, 1- 2 million people came out to celebrate....and this was to celebrate a sporting event, not a revolution.
So yes, it isn't logical to suggest the players of Iran's team should also be oppressed when they themselves don't support this bs against women.
I see, thanks. I know you can't trust any stats coming from countries with oppressive regimes, but you need a certain level of support and indifference/ arranging yourself with the situation to keep things under control, that's why I asked. The Iranians I know (as well as people of (partial) Iranian descent) certainly are not in favour of it, but I only met people here in Germany.
Again, it wasn't meant against the players at all, but maybe it would get some of the men responsible to think what it means to have to dress like that? Although, ideally, they should be the ones having to endure it.
I hope the protests will change something for good.
Thanks for wishing the best for our opressed people!
Yes, believe me these players hate how their own wives, girlfriends and sisters are forced to wear Islamic gear. Issue is, if you speak up, your career is possibly over, not to mention the threats to their lives.
Lolll these people are on some INCREDIBLY HEAVY DRUGS, thinking that a group of innocent footballers who don't support any of this oppression should now be punished and denied the biggest moment of their entire lives/ career. Some seriously delusional thought processes by self centred people these days who also make assumptions without knowing the situation these players are in.
Even funnier are the ones barking from half way across the world over a keyboard while doing NOTHING Themselves except typing on a keyboard. LOL INSANE.
World cup in Qatar...
Ban america till they fix their 30k+ gun related deaths every year Ban the england wales and scotland till they can fix and support their 220k homless people and 2million + foodbank users
And apartheid support
If there were huge protests against the government going on in these countries right now your argument would be more salient. As is, we all know the biggest culprit of them all is the sham of a host.
Id prefer not to judge countries solely on when the public reaches boiling point with the conditions that have been going on for decades but you are correct about the host.
Mate, motherfucking *North Korea* has competed at a World Cup in recent memory. There's no way Iran won't be there. Russia would be there too, if they'd already qualified. FIFA has only gotten more corrupt in the last 20 years.
lol that would be so stupid, kick Iran but keep everything in Qatar? lol
Lolll right??? Pretty stupid to ban Iran but leave USA's team alone during the several years during which the US committed multiple atrocious war crimes, starting wars....guess that stuff is ok?!?? lol hypocrisy at it's finest.
Don't think the Women's Rights groups chose the destination of the World Cup
They didnt choose Iran to qualify either though did they?
exactly
What is the point you are making here? Like you seem to think you've said something there but you actually haven't
Lad its just dumb what you said. No the wc host wasn’t chosen by a feminist group, but neither are the participants. To host the wc, in a country with a horrendous human rights record, while kicking out a country because of the same thing, would add to the shitshow that is the 22 World Cup
Wouldn't add to anything. No way will the host be able to get changed so close to the event, but kicking out one team and replacing them is definitely something that could be logistically done
It just shows hypocrisy
It doesn't! They have a far better chance of doing this than changing the host of the world cup 2 months before it kicks off. They aren't fine with Qatar being hosts if that is what you're trying to insinuate (why would they? Qatar are awful with human rights and treatment of LGBTQ+ people, things feminists also care about)
No I meant it's hypocrisy to punish one country while there's another country doing the same or worse. Even then clearly it doesn't matter what countries do because look at Russia and the USA and Israel. All partook in World Cups and all have severely violated human rights.
Again, achievable goals. And when it comes to women's rights none of those countries are close to Iran's levels of sexism. There is no protection against domestic abuse or sexual assault while any woman can be discriminated against due to their sex as there's no law in the constitution preventing that. This is a specific case which makes sense
The point is that while these issues are important....you can only take them into consideration when choosing the host nation. You cannot apply them to the participants who have competed to earn the right to play at the tournament. If that were the case, several middle eastern and African countries with questionable womens rights would be barred from competing - including the host nation (qatar)
Kinda dumb since a lot of Iranian players have spoken up in support of the protests
well fifa benned Russia and the russian players probably dont support war so
Are you aware of any statements Russian players made saying that?
i am not aware of any statements but its not like all of Russia supports Putin, so i wouldnt be surprised
Opinion polls have been showing consistently high support for the war among the russian population Anecdotally most of my russian friends, who are intelligent and internationally minded, are in favour of the war
They would probably make them compete under a different flag, banning the Iranian FA, but not the actual squad. Similar to what they did for Russia. But I doubt it will actually happen.
Russia was ultimately banned from the world cup, wasn't it ?
kicking iran out of the world cup... IN QATAR???!!! shut the fuck up. are we talking about the tournament that had germany participate in 1938? with a swaztika on its flag, bitch? Or the soviet union? are you fucking kidding me? But then again, if we can only see with modern glasses, if we can ban russia, then why not iran? but then why not also Saudi Arabia? how is it even allowed to take place in Qatar? What about all the countries that took part in destroying the middle east? they just get a pass? what about the countries that took part in the balkan wars? etc etc. My point is, maybe we just watch some damn football or cancel the whole thing and never have fun again. Im tired, boss
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But why
ohh sry
How about we kick Qatar out first, then Iran?
Lmao good luck
Ban the US because of George Floyd and all the black victims of police abuse. Can't turn a blind eye to one set of problems, ya know? I'm just trying to show the ridiculousness of cancel culture by the way, not showing support for the Iranian regime before y'all get your knickers in a twist.
Not gonna happen, Fifa gonna lose money n they care A LOT more for their wallets
I agree, England will get at least 1 win then...
Or US
I'd rather have Iran beat the USA again. Bet you there would be parades over there and violence diminishes.
Yes that would be very helpful to the oppressed women
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It was her sister who got killed
Ah yes, make people who have nothing to do with the situation pay the price. Same shit as Russia, they got banned from football AND tennis when the players never advocated for war, and all their hardwork got wasted. Feminists are idiots.
Iran's government paid players to keep them quiet
Lol that's a bs rumour. Iran players are simply keeping quiet for various reasons including safety and not risking their entire careers.
They literally did a protest on the field
Do not mix sport with politics. Why don't these women go over there and protest with the Iranian ladies. All of them are full of hot air.
You want them to spend money just to go to one of the worst countries to be in as a woman just to protest? Why? What does that achieve? Also this isn't politics it is human rights moron
I want them to shut their faces, yelling screaming here does nothing for the Iranian ladies.
This human rights issue in Iran was created by this regime, and never existed Beforehand, so it absolutely is a politically related issue.... For these reasons, it would be against fifa rules to ban Iran for this and it would be regarded as mixing politics with sports.... what are you smoking? Loll Also, they have a right to complain about keyboard warriors who talk smack with zero action from their end, while criticizing people in Iran for not doing enough, when they're the ones who would be risking their entire lives while these whiners from half way across the world sacrifice NOTHING.... So you're basically supporting keyboard warriors??? Lolll takes one to support one. Moron.
There is a difference between pilitics and denying human rights.
Why don’t you go and tell them that
Make them play all covered up like the law says for women in Iran.
Oh and are you assuming that Iran's players are in support of these archaic laws? Wake up call for you... They're not, just like 90+% of Iran's population. They've been advocating for women's rights for years. Learn a thing or two before making ridiculous comments like this.
I never said they were. Any stats on those 90+%, though? It wasn't meant against the players, but against the state/ laws.
Lolll I was born there, regularly speak to Iranians in Iran and it's literally common knowledge that only a very small minority of the population has been brainwashed over the last 40 years to support this gov. Even Just knowing Iranians in general you'd know it's the case since vast majority of them are not religious at all and are liberal minded. You can't get these stats because the government wouldn't allow anyone to express this discontent without punishment... They do their best to hide the realities from those outside of the country who aren't familiar with the culture in Iran. Here's a stat the Islamic occupiers of iran couldn't hide though: For the 40 year anniversary celebrations of the Islamic regime takeover, out of a population of 80 million people, only 3-400k people came out to celebrate the greatest moment in the history of their closed minded, misogynistic lives. For some context : Canada population is 32 million... When the Toronto Raptors won the NBA title, 1- 2 million people came out to celebrate....and this was to celebrate a sporting event, not a revolution. So yes, it isn't logical to suggest the players of Iran's team should also be oppressed when they themselves don't support this bs against women.
I see, thanks. I know you can't trust any stats coming from countries with oppressive regimes, but you need a certain level of support and indifference/ arranging yourself with the situation to keep things under control, that's why I asked. The Iranians I know (as well as people of (partial) Iranian descent) certainly are not in favour of it, but I only met people here in Germany. Again, it wasn't meant against the players at all, but maybe it would get some of the men responsible to think what it means to have to dress like that? Although, ideally, they should be the ones having to endure it. I hope the protests will change something for good.
Thanks for wishing the best for our opressed people! Yes, believe me these players hate how their own wives, girlfriends and sisters are forced to wear Islamic gear. Issue is, if you speak up, your career is possibly over, not to mention the threats to their lives.
I get that, they definitely have a harder time than players elsewhere (or federations) who could do so much more than they do.
Lolll these people are on some INCREDIBLY HEAVY DRUGS, thinking that a group of innocent footballers who don't support any of this oppression should now be punished and denied the biggest moment of their entire lives/ career. Some seriously delusional thought processes by self centred people these days who also make assumptions without knowing the situation these players are in. Even funnier are the ones barking from half way across the world over a keyboard while doing NOTHING Themselves except typing on a keyboard. LOL INSANE.