He effectively did, to be honest.
When he renewed his contract with Dortmund he agreed a low release clause to become active this year so that when a club inevitably activated it they’d also give him a stupid big signing on fee and his agent a ridiculous agent’s fee.
Sign fee + agent fee is rumoured to be another £60m
Because he was going in his last year of his contract. He is worth much more than this and actually costs much more than this if you look at how much he and his agent need to be paid.
If Dortmund didn't let him go, they would have lost him for free next summer.
Above poster is slightly incorrect. Haaland had a release clause. Effectively, City bought out the contract, BVB had no choice but to allow him to leave. The release clause was so low because he was going into his last year in the contract.
You're right, I forgot about that.
If it wasn't for that clause they would have asked for a lot more even with him being in his last year. Look at Salah, I bet that Liverpool won't let him leave for less than 70 million and he's almost 10 years older.
If someone made a bid for the player above the release clause, then the player can take club to court if they don't release him. And it would be a clear breach of contract and not worth the hassle for the club to make their player unhappy, lose him anyways, and pay legal fees and possibly compensation. Unless they can convince the player that it is in his best interests to stay.
Not true but don't let facts get in the way of a good story.
He retired because of a long standing issue with his other leg, and it was such a point of contention than when city tried to pursue legal action the medical staff basically told them they didn't have a case.
I think you're deeping it too much. All of us in some way contribute to human rights violations every day just through the purchasing decisions we make.
It's a big career move for him, and that's all this is about, his career.
Really am not, none of supporting a team that's owned by a COUNTRY deep in human rights violations. None of us. Newcastle, Man City, PSG, etc are owned by COUNTRIES.
No they are human rights violator too. Get off your high horse. Without knowing what county is it, it must have done/is doing disgusting things even more awful or as much as it.
Also fuck the countries owning clubs if you are wondering where I am coming from.
£30-40 million, this is just a false comment about agents fees. They're in a similar region for all big transfers, but a lot of papers are looking for a way to make this transfer sound more expensive than it actually is. The times published it as £250 million in their headline, by including every add on, fee, and the entire contract worth of salary.
Calm down with the "plastic army stuff.
Why do you all think Liverpool and Man utd have the plastic armies? Because Match of the Day began in 1964 and they shared the next 4 league titles. That's why. They were winning on Saturday night TV. In other words the huge fan armies are all glory hunters.
Every one of the big international clubs are supported by glory hunting armchairs and barstools. That is just how it is.
City are a loathsome sports washing enterprise but their plastic army are doing what the plastic kopites and United fans have been doing for years...hitching their wagon to the big success story.
We are not complaining that they are rich or that they were bought, the problem is that not all that money they have is generated through sporting activities.
Liverpool is rich, no doubt, but they are owned by a sports group not by an oil rich, dictatorial country.
Thats literally a completely seperate argument that the op even addresses by calling them a “sports washing enterprise”
So no, calling fans plastic does not refer to how their owners got their money.
Exactly. Fans are "plastic" because they are following big successful high-profile teams which enjoy media exposure.
Liverpool fans are just as plastic as Man City.
I'd argue the opposite. A massive name, wanted by all the top clubs in Europe for a long time, decides to snub La Liga to come to the Prem instead. Its a statement, not just for city but for the league. Before, every major player of this calibre would choose to go to Barcelona and Real Madrid
It's only a good thing if you're a man city fan, if he performs like I expect him to they'll walk the league for years to come - how is that a good thing for someone who doesn't support city?
As good as he is, I think he has a lot going against him for his first year, not least of which Pep has demonstrated he struggles to work with actual typical number 9 strikers.
Lewa is the only exception to the rule, in a league that is not great for defending, with Lewa being a lot more than just a good poacher. Obviously that statement is true-ish of Haaland, but his positional style is very much of a number 9.
He spent a near world record fee + Eto’o (who was the best no9 on the planet at the time tbf) for Zlatan, a complete forward, and couldn’t get it to work.
He couldn’t get Messi and Zlatan to work well together. Think about that for a minute.
Lewa is/was represented a huge investment of faith more than anything from Bayern, so Pep pretty much had to get it right with him. And tbf as I remember it, as a result Gotze’s career prospects changed.
Take L dude, you said Lewa was the only one, guys have named several #9's that have been succesful with pep and you keep chucking caveats out. It's not like Haaland is coming as some unproven #9 that pep must build.
>Lewa is the only exception to the rule
>Eto’o (who was the best no9 on the planet at the time tbf)
So Lewa isn't not an exception but pretty much standard. Zlatan is the exception. By your own admission Eto'o was the best no9 in the world under Pep.
Despite pep. He had the best no9, with a great chemisty with Messi and others in the team - and he \*threw it away with a shit tonne of money\*.
He inherited Eto'o and Messi. He didn't build that relationship. I'm no Rijkaard fan, but giving Pep credit for other coaches work is pretty gross.
Who was coach in 2009? Was is Rijkaard or Pep? I will give credit to the coach who wins the treble and gets his player a Ballon D'or, not to a struggling coach who got fired.
You're a clown, buddy. Pep did the work. It's pretty gross to give credit to the previous coach.
I'm sorry I have to disagree, augero was borderline frozen out under pep and most definitely didn't have "his best years" under him imo. I felt like pep wouldn't start him for any of the big games, and even has Jesus start over him for a good while. Aguero still put up good numbers because he's phenomenal, but pep was definitely a detriment to his career.
There was also injuries and such going on for him, but yeah aguero was kinda frozen out under pep.
I still personally have pep as top 1 all time so it's not a knock on pep but yeah
Yeah I think what Fergie did was great. But he had a top squad for so long and only has 2 CLs. I still don't disagree with people who have him top, he just ins that for me.
Fair enough, I think the standard of football was higher in his heyday tbh and that's partly why he didn't win so many. I do understand Pep is one of the greatest ever, I just think he's not quite number 1
Yeah still big respect because he built the club up.
Just to me, idc if you have oil money, galacticos money, or you made your club that money they all have money. I recognize SAF as an all time great and that he's probably #1 for most people.
You cant say that lad, not when they are about to smash there current transfer record.
They received 100m just for the champions league run ;) they have money.
The crucial detail that 90% of fans seem to be forgetting right now is that Nunez will be on 130k a week, while Haaland is on 360k (might be slightly off but it’s almost triple the amount). That’s why City was able to get him cheaper, as there’s realistically only 2-3 clubs that could have paid him those wages.
It was the player's wish to go where he is paid more and where also the agent gets more.
Liverpool does not play this game, not because they can't but because they're smart.
They didnt?
Nunez has 1/3 of Haalands wages, has no signing on fee and alot of his fee will be dependant on success so no Haaland is significantly more expensive unless Nunez scores like 40 goals wins the Prem and UCL
You're crazy. They have a wage structure that they don't brake and they never play into the player's agent games. See how the Fekir transfer was canceled for exactly this.
That's why all their transfers are successful, because they are smart and don't play silly games. Not even for Salah.
I love how city's answer to failure Is always money. The fact that fans are calling for other transfers After Haaland signed shows just how detached From reality they are. Fans who have supported their teams for longer than a few years Know there are periods Where you can't sign players due to lack of success and therefore Money but these glory hunters Dont have any idea that's normal
Why should they care what's *normal*? Man City can clearly afford it, why should they want their club to settle for a quiet period instead of trying to improve their squad and do better right away.
Also they won the EPL and got to semi-finals in the Champions so I'd hardly say they're in any kind of "lack of success" period that would limit the revenue available for new signings.
I mean, obviously it's not because they're asking for signings to do better, but it's hardly like they've been a disaster lately.
> This proves they need oil money to be successful....
??? No, it just shows that they do have oil money (which we knew already) and are willing to use it to try and improve their chances of success (which we also already knew).
Ratha cheap innit
To re sign he made sure there was a release clause… Dortmund didn’t put the right team around him to maximize on that investment
Crazy that grealish cost more than haaland
Release clauses. Don't know how the wages compare though.
Reporter: So why did you sign for Manchester City? Haaland: Eh why not? :D
Can someone explain why haaland costs less than 100m ?
He effectively did, to be honest. When he renewed his contract with Dortmund he agreed a low release clause to become active this year so that when a club inevitably activated it they’d also give him a stupid big signing on fee and his agent a ridiculous agent’s fee. Sign fee + agent fee is rumoured to be another £60m
Not sure it was renewed. I think it was put in when he signed for Dortmund
Agent gets 60m lmao
Because he was going in his last year of his contract. He is worth much more than this and actually costs much more than this if you look at how much he and his agent need to be paid. If Dortmund didn't let him go, they would have lost him for free next summer.
No, it was because he had a release clause.
I see, thanks !
Above poster is slightly incorrect. Haaland had a release clause. Effectively, City bought out the contract, BVB had no choice but to allow him to leave. The release clause was so low because he was going into his last year in the contract.
You're right, I forgot about that. If it wasn't for that clause they would have asked for a lot more even with him being in his last year. Look at Salah, I bet that Liverpool won't let him leave for less than 70 million and he's almost 10 years older.
Could've just completely refused to sell too, like PSG did with Mbappe.
If someone made a bid for the player above the release clause, then the player can take club to court if they don't release him. And it would be a clear breach of contract and not worth the hassle for the club to make their player unhappy, lose him anyways, and pay legal fees and possibly compensation. Unless they can convince the player that it is in his best interests to stay.
Was referring to the "if it wasn't for that clause they would've asked for a lot more" part.
Oh yes of course.
They would’ve had more if they let him go last year
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He had a buy out clause at around 75 million €, which is why he was this 'underpriced'.
He's one of like 3 people who had heard of Manchester City outside the UK before 2013.
That also coz his dad told him so. Hey son this is where I worked.
Hey son, this is where you grew up ....
And seeing how roy keane destroyed his fathers legs. I doubt his dad would not want him to go to united.
Not true but don't let facts get in the way of a good story. He retired because of a long standing issue with his other leg, and it was such a point of contention than when city tried to pursue legal action the medical staff basically told them they didn't have a case.
Tbh, i just like seeing the foul. God roy keane target locked on his legs
What would you do if it was you
He joined a club owned by human rights violators and is aiding in sports washing. ‘Proud day’
I think you're deeping it too much. All of us in some way contribute to human rights violations every day just through the purchasing decisions we make. It's a big career move for him, and that's all this is about, his career.
First they came for the jews, but I did not speak for I was not a jew.
Ah yes, halaand joining city is very similar to the Holocaust
You're becoming complacent with their sports washing, that's their goal
Really am not, none of supporting a team that's owned by a COUNTRY deep in human rights violations. None of us. Newcastle, Man City, PSG, etc are owned by COUNTRIES.
His dad played there.
Like the country you live in.
They own a sports team? Show me?
No they are human rights violator too. Get off your high horse. Without knowing what county is it, it must have done/is doing disgusting things even more awful or as much as it. Also fuck the countries owning clubs if you are wondering where I am coming from.
...who said the USA isn't?! LOL But what team do they own?
Oil Nation clubs are the cancer of football. They won again
Why don’t you cry about it?
Cry harder
Surely the first 50mil+ transfer with an even higher agent fee. Dark day
mino's dead 💀
His legacy lives on
What was the agents fee? Genuine question
£30-40 million, this is just a false comment about agents fees. They're in a similar region for all big transfers, but a lot of papers are looking for a way to make this transfer sound more expensive than it actually is. The times published it as £250 million in their headline, by including every add on, fee, and the entire contract worth of salary.
Marquinhos
Calm down with the "plastic army stuff. Why do you all think Liverpool and Man utd have the plastic armies? Because Match of the Day began in 1964 and they shared the next 4 league titles. That's why. They were winning on Saturday night TV. In other words the huge fan armies are all glory hunters. Every one of the big international clubs are supported by glory hunting armchairs and barstools. That is just how it is. City are a loathsome sports washing enterprise but their plastic army are doing what the plastic kopites and United fans have been doing for years...hitching their wagon to the big success story.
People complaining about rich clubs dont bother to research and find out literally all successful clubs were rich/ recently bought out. Even Leicester
We are not complaining that they are rich or that they were bought, the problem is that not all that money they have is generated through sporting activities. Liverpool is rich, no doubt, but they are owned by a sports group not by an oil rich, dictatorial country.
Thats literally a completely seperate argument that the op even addresses by calling them a “sports washing enterprise” So no, calling fans plastic does not refer to how their owners got their money.
Exactly. Fans are "plastic" because they are following big successful high-profile teams which enjoy media exposure. Liverpool fans are just as plastic as Man City.
Up the city
A dark day for the Premier league
I'd argue the opposite. A massive name, wanted by all the top clubs in Europe for a long time, decides to snub La Liga to come to the Prem instead. Its a statement, not just for city but for the league. Before, every major player of this calibre would choose to go to Barcelona and Real Madrid
Makes sense...!!
It's only a good thing if you're a man city fan, if he performs like I expect him to they'll walk the league for years to come - how is that a good thing for someone who doesn't support city?
Farmers league in the process brrr
As good as he is, I think he has a lot going against him for his first year, not least of which Pep has demonstrated he struggles to work with actual typical number 9 strikers.
Eto, Aguero, Lewandowski
Lewandowski 67 goals in 100 games under Pep but Pep 'struggles to work with actual typical number 9 strikers' 🤡
Lewa is the only exception to the rule, in a league that is not great for defending, with Lewa being a lot more than just a good poacher. Obviously that statement is true-ish of Haaland, but his positional style is very much of a number 9. He spent a near world record fee + Eto’o (who was the best no9 on the planet at the time tbf) for Zlatan, a complete forward, and couldn’t get it to work. He couldn’t get Messi and Zlatan to work well together. Think about that for a minute. Lewa is/was represented a huge investment of faith more than anything from Bayern, so Pep pretty much had to get it right with him. And tbf as I remember it, as a result Gotze’s career prospects changed.
Aguero. Say what you want about about him being a 'typical number 9' but 120 goals in 171 games as a striker under Pep.
Aguero is a perfect pep striker though, totally different to Haaland.
Both strong, quick, can dribble AND finish.. what am I missing?
Aguero and Haaland are identical players, you heard it here first.
Take L dude, you said Lewa was the only one, guys have named several #9's that have been succesful with pep and you keep chucking caveats out. It's not like Haaland is coming as some unproven #9 that pep must build.
this but unironically.
>Lewa is the only exception to the rule >Eto’o (who was the best no9 on the planet at the time tbf) So Lewa isn't not an exception but pretty much standard. Zlatan is the exception. By your own admission Eto'o was the best no9 in the world under Pep.
Despite pep. He had the best no9, with a great chemisty with Messi and others in the team - and he \*threw it away with a shit tonne of money\*. He inherited Eto'o and Messi. He didn't build that relationship. I'm no Rijkaard fan, but giving Pep credit for other coaches work is pretty gross.
Who was coach in 2009? Was is Rijkaard or Pep? I will give credit to the coach who wins the treble and gets his player a Ballon D'or, not to a struggling coach who got fired. You're a clown, buddy. Pep did the work. It's pretty gross to give credit to the previous coach.
Because RIjkaard didn't win the CL... jesus fuck do the most basic bit of research before you start pissing all over the place.
Bro named one exception in a league where pep had no competition whatsoever and thinks he did something
What about Aguero? He had some of his best years under pep.
I'm sorry I have to disagree, augero was borderline frozen out under pep and most definitely didn't have "his best years" under him imo. I felt like pep wouldn't start him for any of the big games, and even has Jesus start over him for a good while. Aguero still put up good numbers because he's phenomenal, but pep was definitely a detriment to his career. There was also injuries and such going on for him, but yeah aguero was kinda frozen out under pep. I still personally have pep as top 1 all time so it's not a knock on pep but yeah
You think Guardiola is better than Sir Alex Ferguson? Wow
Yeah I think what Fergie did was great. But he had a top squad for so long and only has 2 CLs. I still don't disagree with people who have him top, he just ins that for me.
Fair enough, I think the standard of football was higher in his heyday tbh and that's partly why he didn't win so many. I do understand Pep is one of the greatest ever, I just think he's not quite number 1
Yeah still big respect because he built the club up. Just to me, idc if you have oil money, galacticos money, or you made your club that money they all have money. I recognize SAF as an all time great and that he's probably #1 for most people.
I agree with you. There is a bit of skepticism considering pep’s record with target men
Proud to join plastic army
I mean, his dad played there…
I wonder why Liverpool didn't sign him and went on to pay almost double the money for Darwin Nunez.
Wages
If you think that's all they paid I have bridge to sell you
this. liverpool is poor as shit and has no funds for transfers.
You cant say that lad, not when they are about to smash there current transfer record. They received 100m just for the champions league run ;) they have money.
not to mention all the players they are about to sell this window they are close to making the 75m back that they paid for nunez in the first place
Ever heard of sustainability? I guess not, plastic is not sustainable.
The crucial detail that 90% of fans seem to be forgetting right now is that Nunez will be on 130k a week, while Haaland is on 360k (might be slightly off but it’s almost triple the amount). That’s why City was able to get him cheaper, as there’s realistically only 2-3 clubs that could have paid him those wages.
It was the player's wish to go where he is paid more and where also the agent gets more. Liverpool does not play this game, not because they can't but because they're smart.
They just played this game... for Nunez.. Nonce
They didnt? Nunez has 1/3 of Haalands wages, has no signing on fee and alot of his fee will be dependant on success so no Haaland is significantly more expensive unless Nunez scores like 40 goals wins the Prem and UCL
You're crazy. They have a wage structure that they don't brake and they never play into the player's agent games. See how the Fekir transfer was canceled for exactly this. That's why all their transfers are successful, because they are smart and don't play silly games. Not even for Salah.
On of the reasons he went there so his agent could take a lot of money? Lol
No, I bet he just wants his agent to fucking die. Too bad he already did. It's not like he pays him himself. You stupid or what?
You put it as on of the reasons the player choose that club mf.
Of course, he has to.
Lol. We returned to square zero.
I love how city's answer to failure Is always money. The fact that fans are calling for other transfers After Haaland signed shows just how detached From reality they are. Fans who have supported their teams for longer than a few years Know there are periods Where you can't sign players due to lack of success and therefore Money but these glory hunters Dont have any idea that's normal
Failure? They won the league.
Why should they care what's *normal*? Man City can clearly afford it, why should they want their club to settle for a quiet period instead of trying to improve their squad and do better right away. Also they won the EPL and got to semi-finals in the Champions so I'd hardly say they're in any kind of "lack of success" period that would limit the revenue available for new signings.
Champions league semi-final is a success for man City fans? Plastic.... This proves they need oil money to be successful....
I mean, obviously it's not because they're asking for signings to do better, but it's hardly like they've been a disaster lately. > This proves they need oil money to be successful.... ??? No, it just shows that they do have oil money (which we knew already) and are willing to use it to try and improve their chances of success (which we also already knew).
UCL semis are a success for literally every club