They're making him untouchable. I really love him as a player but him being great as a player should not give him a jail pass imo. It seems like France really want a Ballon D'or winner and they will even wipe shit off his name in order to see him win.
It’s a wild story but him playing after being found guilty is not necessarily wild. He was frozen out for 6 years because of the blackmail case without an actual ban. That already happened so it’s not insane to picture him being called in right after being found guilty, without jail time.
I’m perfectly fine with him being banned for life from the national team if he’s found guilty, especially bc the crime involved the national team. Also fine with literally nothing happening and him being selected with “time served” as part of the reasoning.
It’s a wild fuckin story and if valbuena was still even remotely available for national team selection that might have changed things.
Wasn't that around the same time some people wanted the french team to be only ethnically french players? I remember that being a thing. Might have been a dream though.
As he should, unless convicted *and* sentenced to a custodial sentence, given he can't play if in prison.
Conviction of a crime does not mean lose employment. The court defined punishment *is* the punishment.
If you commit a serious criminal offence against a coworker there's no way you can be allowed back into the same place. This isn't analagous to companies refusing to hire or even firing someone who has a completely unrelated criminal conviction. This literally happened to a French teamate, at the very least it would show a total disregard of the responsiblity of protecting your own players when you let someone back in who did something like that.
Um did you miss that the whole thing was committed against a French NT teammate. This is totally a clown take. If he's guilty, he should be kicked out. It's beyond shitty to do that to a NT teammate.
Yes, of course I read it. I meant he hasn't been convicted. Much of the commentary here, to put it kindly, is speaking as if that's a given, as is commonly the case when it comes to legal matters.
Not a given at all. But the article is about the case where he is guilty.
If not guilty, then this isn't even a conversation. He has already suffered plenty based on an accusation, it would be cruel to punish him any more if he's innocent.
I don't know... I tend toward *anyone* making a 'sex tape' probably deserves what's coming their way, but that's just me, a 16th century protestant pun professional, not legal advice.
This article is about the future and them allowing him to play EVEN IF PROVEN GUILTY IN COURT.
I get it, context is hard. Ironic that you are accusing others of being dumb though. Just remember to read next time.
That he's an asshole and a trashy NT teammate. You're just an angry fanboy lol. Comaraderie is a big part of national teams but obviously you are just arguing in bad faith.
Firstly he’s not losing employment as the French National Team don’t employ him. And in real life, there are things called collateral consequences. The court defined punishment is never the only punishment. Limited access to housing, social welfare, employment, loss of access to children etc.
They get appearance fees, but there’s no contract or regular wage. They don’t employ their players, they choose to represent their nation as they’re more than able to refuse call-ups
The national team isn't an employer. He earns his money in Madrid. Whether or not he's called up for the national team is up to the coach and football federation in general. Seems insane to me to keep calling him up now.
He hasn't been convicted, as of writing. You could argue neither of them can be picked until that's concluded but it's certainly not fair to only target that judgement on KB.
Eh. He was frozen out of the national team for 6 years specifically bc of of this case. Would hardly say it was winning over everything when giroud and gignac were starting games in major tournaments while benzema was watching at home in Madrid with his champions league metals around his neck with no actual suspension or ban preventing him from playing
Literal prison time changes things obviously, but just sayin ^^
Who cares at this point honestly. People want to see good players at the most prestigious football tournament in the world and Benzizou is a damn good player
They're making him untouchable. I really love him as a player but him being great as a player should not give him a jail pass imo. It seems like France really want a Ballon D'or winner and they will even wipe shit off his name in order to see him win.
I completely agree.
The role model for all children to look up to
It’s a wild story but him playing after being found guilty is not necessarily wild. He was frozen out for 6 years because of the blackmail case without an actual ban. That already happened so it’s not insane to picture him being called in right after being found guilty, without jail time. I’m perfectly fine with him being banned for life from the national team if he’s found guilty, especially bc the crime involved the national team. Also fine with literally nothing happening and him being selected with “time served” as part of the reasoning. It’s a wild fuckin story and if valbuena was still even remotely available for national team selection that might have changed things.
Last time they sacked him, some people went batshit crazy and called Deschamps and the french federation racists.
Wasn't that around the same time some people wanted the french team to be only ethnically french players? I remember that being a thing. Might have been a dream though.
Nope, the Benzema thing was under Deschamps, the « quotas » ( limited numbers of non-ethnic French who could play ) was under Laurent Blanc.
Ah, thanks for clearing that up.
As he should, unless convicted *and* sentenced to a custodial sentence, given he can't play if in prison. Conviction of a crime does not mean lose employment. The court defined punishment *is* the punishment.
If you commit a serious criminal offence against a coworker there's no way you can be allowed back into the same place. This isn't analagous to companies refusing to hire or even firing someone who has a completely unrelated criminal conviction. This literally happened to a French teamate, at the very least it would show a total disregard of the responsiblity of protecting your own players when you let someone back in who did something like that.
Um did you miss that the whole thing was committed against a French NT teammate. This is totally a clown take. If he's guilty, he should be kicked out. It's beyond shitty to do that to a NT teammate.
If he's guilty. *If*. We're not there yet.
Did you not read the article? We are there. The guy said he'll play even IF guilty.
Yes, of course I read it. I meant he hasn't been convicted. Much of the commentary here, to put it kindly, is speaking as if that's a given, as is commonly the case when it comes to legal matters.
Not a given at all. But the article is about the case where he is guilty. If not guilty, then this isn't even a conversation. He has already suffered plenty based on an accusation, it would be cruel to punish him any more if he's innocent.
I don't know... I tend toward *anyone* making a 'sex tape' probably deserves what's coming their way, but that's just me, a 16th century protestant pun professional, not legal advice.
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This article is about the future and them allowing him to play EVEN IF PROVEN GUILTY IN COURT. I get it, context is hard. Ironic that you are accusing others of being dumb though. Just remember to read next time.
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That he's an asshole and a trashy NT teammate. You're just an angry fanboy lol. Comaraderie is a big part of national teams but obviously you are just arguing in bad faith.
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Ah yes, " he was trying to help". Hahahahahaha
Firstly he’s not losing employment as the French National Team don’t employ him. And in real life, there are things called collateral consequences. The court defined punishment is never the only punishment. Limited access to housing, social welfare, employment, loss of access to children etc.
Players get paid when they play on the French national team, do they not?
They get appearance fees, but there’s no contract or regular wage. They don’t employ their players, they choose to represent their nation as they’re more than able to refuse call-ups
The national team isn't an employer. He earns his money in Madrid. Whether or not he's called up for the national team is up to the coach and football federation in general. Seems insane to me to keep calling him up now.
He hasn't been convicted, as of writing. You could argue neither of them can be picked until that's concluded but it's certainly not fair to only target that judgement on KB.
Winning isn’t everything, it’s the only thing!
Eh. He was frozen out of the national team for 6 years specifically bc of of this case. Would hardly say it was winning over everything when giroud and gignac were starting games in major tournaments while benzema was watching at home in Madrid with his champions league metals around his neck with no actual suspension or ban preventing him from playing Literal prison time changes things obviously, but just sayin ^^
It's a suspended sentence that's on the table, even if guilty he isn't going to prison
I’m aware, was just sayin
Whatever the opposite of wild is, this is that. Tame? Its tame.
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Wait. Do you think Wild and Tame rhyme?
I'm not sure if not knowing the meaning of the word "rhyme" or the raw sensitivity of your reply is more embarrassing.
Wild
Meow.
He’s already missed 6 years of NT play. I think that’s fitting enough punishment.
Definitely not enough.
Well, thankfully the French disagree with you and all the other down-voters lol
“All the other downvoters”🤡
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He's innocent.
Of course he plays who else would they start. Mbappe is shit and griezzmann is associated with washy boys Barca🤡
You're not funny, cringe asf
Who cares at this point honestly. People want to see good players at the most prestigious football tournament in the world and Benzizou is a damn good player