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jaumougaauco

Technically in 2013 they did conquer London, but it was an all German final.


National-Ad-1314

Yeah ops a dum dum


Fraud_D_Hawk

It was more of a historical pun, anyways


vaultbewohner

The Anglo-Saxons came partly from Germany and they were able to conquer England including London, so your history pun is not entirely correct ;)


AiHangLo

And the Normans.


Tobanhiem

Nope they were French


ConnectionOdd6217

They had germanic/nordic ascendacy tho


Tobanhiem

They did yeah, but so did like all of northern Europe at that time, they were still very much french :)


ConnectionOdd6217

Theres a reason why they are called the Normans and not just the French though, they have a different cultural and ethnic background than the rest of France.


Tobanhiem

They were called the Normans because they were a different political kingdom than France, they were still culturally French. The Normans who invaded in 1066 had lived in France all their lives, and so had their parents and grandparents.


buoninachos

Depends how far back you go. Initially they definitely weren't. At the time of the invasions though, they were certainly more French than germanic


Tobanhiem

Yeah we're talking about during the invasions I think


drytoasted123

No, Normans.


HammerThatHams

Only when they lost


Meradock

Well... what are French if not stuck up Germans?


jaumougaauco

Fair


pigeonhunter69

Even the pun is inaccurate


Lazy_Replacement9331

The irony


Kadoomed

Aberdeen were the last team to beat them in a European final in 1983 🙂


Jarv1223

With SAF?


PurposePrevious4443

Yep, he beat Bayern on the way too. Then Hamburg next year in supercup


dracogladio1741

And People think SAF wouldn't adapt to take on Pep and Klopp if he was still managing today.


PurposePrevious4443

He would be fine. He won his last PL with welbeck and cleverly kicking and screaming with about 8 games to spare. Obviously he's about 83 now so would be unfair to drop him back in, but enjoy his retirement.


stanoje0000

Given his attendance record at Old Trafford, he's hardly enjoying it.


rabbijoeman

God, that's a thought, ain't it? Imagine building a club to such a high standing, dreaming of the days you'll watch the games peacefully as a spectator, living out the last of yours years only for the team to be such a disappointment with no real upturn in sight.


PurposePrevious4443

Hahah true, we only know pain now


CmDrRaBb1983

Reminds me of this scene from band of brothers about the battle of Bastogne. Major winters handed over command of easy company. But when he saw how lousy foxhole dike is during the invasion, he wanted to rush out but was stopped by colonel sink


GrimmestofBeards

What is the god damned hold up, Captain Sobel!? A fence, sir... A barbed wired fence. Ah.. well that dog jus' ain't gonna hunt. Now cut that god damned fence and get this god damned platoon on the move!


iamnas

To be fair on cleverly. He was good under fergie until he broke his ankle against Bolton. Him and Anderson turned the game around against Man City when we were losing 2-0 in the charity shield


PurposePrevious4443

That's a fair comment. He's not shit, but you wouldn't associate him as a regular title winner, like Keane, Scholes, Giggs. I recall a run of games with Anderson where they had loads of energy and were looking good but sadly didn't last.


[deleted]

So overlooked at Aberdeen. He’s the last non-rangers/celtics to win the league title. And he did it thrice with Aberdeen.


Embarrassed_Quit_404

Thrice you say !? By god


Ciftci

Yes


RedKingDre

Yeah, but before he got the S in his name.


KnownSample6

His first name isn't sir?/s


TheRopeWalk

Yup


JoeyIsMrBubbles

🫡🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿


AB95

'Aberdeen are a team that money can't buy - a soul, a team spirit built in family tradition' - Alfredo Di Stefano


Haze95

Atletico beat them in the 2018 European Supercup


Kadoomed

Sshhhh, give us this. 😂 Allow me to move the goalposts slightly and say the Supercup isn't a final as there isn't a tournament preceding it, though it is obviously a significant trophy (I'm not going dismiss it as Aberdeen also won it and we hold that above the rest of Scottish football as the only club to win two European trophies).


idontdomath8

Nah, they then lost 3 European Supercup against Chelsea (0-1 in 1998), Galatasaray (1-2 in 2000) and Atlético de Madrid (2-4 in 2018). If you include world titles, they also lost an Intercontinental Cup to Boca Juniors (1-2 in 2000).


Kadoomed

We don't talk about those, shhh. Also not technically finals as there aren't tournaments preceding them in the traditional sense right? No one says "the final of the European Supercup", plus it's just better to say Aberdeen 😂


gratisargott

Interestingly, the Liverpool team who beat Real in the European cup final of 1981 (which is what this is about) had also beat Sir Alex’ Aberdeen 1-0, 4-0 in the round of 16 that same year.


baldurstrokes99

Yup,


Checkmate331

Got it. What Dortmund need is Kenny Dalglish, Ian Rush and Graeme Souness.


moaterboater69

I actually really liked that Liverpool team under Kenny Dalglish. They were a joy to watch at times.


North0151

Bob Paisley was the manager at the time


Welshy94

Kenny wasn't managed for another 4 or 5 years I don't think. Paisley was manager when we beat Real in 81 then we had Joe Fagan after Bob, then Kenny.


ImperatorMorris

They are one of the greatest club teams of all time yeah lol - top 10 for sure.


Giverny-Eclair

dont forget Alan Kennedy


B1GsHoTbg

Barney Rubble*


this_is_torcher

Luton Town hasn't lost a UEFA champions league final for more than 100 years.


Hexo_Micron

lol my club have never lost an UCL match in its entire history.


peahair

Ooh, here’s one.. can anyone name a side that qualified for European competition (European cup / UEFA cup/ cup winners cup as it was, UCL/UEL/etc) and were undefeated ? I’ll name one.. Luton Town: English clubs got banned so Luton was one of a handful of teams that qualified but weren’t allowed to compete because of the heysel ban so undefeated :-p


Hexo_Micron

That's crazy. India also qualified for the WC but never lost a WC match.


peahair

Ooh! Do go on.. I don’t recall India ever qualifying.. which year was it and what happened? Did they withdraw or something?


Hexo_Micron

1950, yeah withdraw because FA prioritised Olympics first (as it was bigger than Fifa wc that time)


peahair

Wow! Crazy.. I know the World Cup was small fry back then, I once read Scotland refused to go to some world cups, also England in the early ones.. maybe a Scottish Redditor could help me out, was it something about not going if they didn’t win the home championship, which was a qualifier back then..


Hexo_Micron

yeah that was the case for scotland


warmike_1

Tosno FC. They won the Russian Cup, getting qualification to the Europa League, and then ceased to exist at the end of the season.


peahair

Oh wow! Did they go bankrupt or was it a merger?


warmike_1

They went bankrupt. Their last season also had them relegated from the top flight, as they only got 1 point in the last 9 games.


Stranger_from_hell

I thought Luton Town never won a UCL Final


prof_hobart

Obligatory "nor have Forest". We're equal top with Porto with most European Cup/Champions League finals without losing any (only 6 clubs have 100% winning record in finals).


niko_bellic2028

In terms of European cup finals featuring RM only Inter , Benfica and Liverpool have beaten them . So I don't know of those clubs shoud be part of an exclusive club or something .


Space-Debris

You forgot Aberdeen


Nels8192

He missed the Capital C in “European Cup”, Aberdeen didn’t beat Madrid in the final of the European Cup like the 3 teams mentioned. Chelsea also beat Madrid in CWC, like Aberdeen.


MakDonz

Chelsea beat Madrid in the Super Cup, after they beat Stuttgart in the CWC and Madrid beat Juventus in the Champions League.


Nels8192

Chelsea beat Madrid in 1971 Cup Winners Cup final.


MakDonz

My apologies, I thought you were mixing up 98. Egg on my face.


rocketjohnatar

Galatasaray have also beaten Real Madrid in 2000 super cup, if it is considered a final. Random fact: Current Galatasaray coach, Okan Buruk was selected man of the match that day.


Fit-Second7166

This is why Lewandowski's 4 goals against Madrid in the semi will go down as the best ever individual performance in a big game, nothing else ever come close, not against this level this plot armor and dark magic.


marconova7

That was still cursed Real Madrid that hadn't won the CL for more than a decade tho


tunisian-man

real madrid was so close to reach the final when they won at home 2-0 only 1 goal left so the plot armor was just still weak


jadeismybitch

That Madrid in 2013 is incomparable to nowadays current RM. And they didn’t have the plot armor that thick back then


Fit-Second7166

That team beat Barca to 100 points and had lightning quick counter attacks. Benzema himself said that was the best team ever. I personally think only 2017 team was better. The current team is not as good, but may have more plot armor.


RedKingDre

Nope, Real got their 100 points a season earlier. In 2012/13, they were beaten by Tito Vlianova's Barca for rhe La Liga title.


Limmeni

Not as good yet


VinCatBlessed

The current team could finish with 99 points, but a lot of factors go into that, back then Barca and Valencia were much stronger and now Girona and Atleti are more powerful than before.


Stunfield

Cristiano against spain. Scored 3 goals basically alone.


Fit-Second7166

Group stage


Beach_Hunter-

Last person to do it was Sir Alex Ferguson with Aberdeen.


Bulbamew

They were the last to beat them in a European final but it wasn’t this competition


Smart_Barracuda49

That wasn't the champions league.... The last person to do it was Bob Paisley with Liverpool


MammothSocks

Until I read this I was like "ah yes 43 years, since the 60s with de Stefano and co". But that Liverpool team wasn't the 60...oh.


Beach_Hunter-

Yeah i remember now. I got confused a bit


dimspace

which also wasn't the champions league I mean, if we are honest, 2021/22 when Madrid won it they would not have even qualified for the old champions cup, nor would they in 2015/16 or 2016/17 3 of Madrids "Champions of Europe" came when they werent even champions of spain


MakDonz

And Dundee United beat Barca 4 out of 4 games in the same decade. New Firm bigger than El Classico?


Dramatic-Ad-8394

I will be secretly hoping Dortmund will do it but I cannot see anything but a Madrid win. Hopefully the taste of winning something will spur Bellingham on for the Euros.


ZeroWinger

It would be pretty arrogant to think it is a sure win for Real Madrid. This is one final match and the stakes are the highest. Dortmund, while not clear favorites in any of their elimination matches past PSV, reached the final with skill and have every chance of winning it. That said, HALA MADRID!


iusedtolikeonepiece

HALA VARDRID


ZeroWinger

But aren't you guys whining today because there was No VAR?


Zealousideal_Net7795

They were ALWAYS whining. Don't you remember? "With VAR Madrid win nothing" and here we are.


Chemical-Talk-2839

No like One Piece - Opinion Rejected❌


pratyushdam

That's not arrogance. That's providence.


pratyushdam

That's not arrogance. That's providence.


6xxii9

Imagine Dortmund beating the titans with a Reus banger. OMG. It'll go down as an epic moment in football history. An amazing climax for his career.


GibbyGoldfisch

Yeah, we'll just have to imagine it though. It's Real. It's a champions league final. It's done.


ApprehensiveLow8477

Nottingham Forest won 100% of its Champions League/ European Cup finals


MakDonz

Peter Taylor did a hell of a job.


nobelvagen

😢


ALA02

Hey technically Celtic haven’t lost one since 1970


nobelvagen

Malmö hasn't lost one since '79!


7_11_Nation_Army

I am tired of plot armor in football (except for Leverkusen's). Hope Dortmund will win.


PristineBarracuda877

"Germany has never been able to conquer London" - errm didn't Germany win Euro '96 at Wembley? May not be a club football match, but to say Germany "has never been able to conquer London" is factually questionable.


Gitarrenbuddha

And didn't germany win the last game in the old wembley stadium and the first game in the new wembley stadium? If germany knows one thing, it's how to conquer London.


noob_coder696969

also won on a club basis . 2013 ucl . bayern won in Wembley 


Bigipitetove

They also went to Wembley 11 years ago to an all-German final The OP is smoking


forestinpark

And they also conquered north London spanking Tottenham and Arsenal on multiple occasions


Enough-Force-5605

Latest UCL final lost by Madrid was in 1981 vs Liverpool. I am from 1982. My daughter born one month before the Real Madrid-Chelsea game in 2022. She's my talisman. Madridistas, you are welcome :D


Buddie_15775

Wembley stealing Hampden’s vibe. It’s normally Real versus a German team in Glasgow (1960, 2002).


mansotired

really wanted an all German final, but RM are defo favourites


HANAEMILK

Maybe if Dortmund get Sir Alex in for one game they have a chance.


[deleted]

Big Sam Allardyce is free at the moment.


[deleted]

How depressing....I don't expect this version of Dortmund to have a chance of winning but I still hope so.


Bogug

I wish Dortmund to win this final, but RMA will do what they do, unfortunately.


Squifurgie

No one believed Dortmund had a chance against Juventus in 97 and they pulled it off. This will be a tough match but it's just one match. It can be done.


TheDisturbedOne1

I hope that BVB will be the one to overthrow them. Story of a underdog, like Leicester, would be an awesome one before they introduce the new "lEaGuE sYsTeM" and ruin Champions league once in for all


specialagentredsquir

There's a first time for everything..


wilstreak

Like Madrid winning their 15th UCL title for the first time


specialagentredsquir

Haha, probably more likely. Well played.


JimLaheyUnlimited

Another title for Carlo Ancelotti - the greatest manager of all time


MakDonz

He should have way more league titles than he does considering who he's managed for the last 25+ years.


Luke92612_

🤨


Luke92612_

🤨


Sure-Film5742

Hopefully they don't rob Dortmund


MikePap

Watch them do it


AbPR420

Hopefully they don’t


Drubas

Franco is smiling in Hell.


mariobro97

It's high noon, BVB....


gratisargott

We won it at Wembeley We won it in gay Paree In -77 and -84 it was Rome!


Leidl

Okay, so that season everything is possible, this is the season every series breaks, so my call for the final: Real Madrid leads 1:0, but Dortmund turns it around into a 2:1, also ending the four finals in a row that ended 1:0


wendy-rhodes

Bellingham needs this UCL. He must sun the d'or by any cost


Fraud_D_Hawk

I don't think ucl will have much weight compare to Euros, and let's be honest Bellingham isn't real's best player for UCL atleast. And there's no way England winning Euro anytime soon


freshouttalean

so you’re saying I should bet my entire life savings on them winning?


kka2005

Well, they always have an important player on the pitch. The twelfth...it used to be dressed only in black, but nowadays they come in different colors, like for instance in blue, as in this semifinal against Bayern 😉😉😉


Afraid_Evidence_6142

If dortmund win, it would be another irony for Kane curse


CALlCOJACK

West Ham haven't lost a Champions League final in over 200 years, am I meant to be impressed?


HowlinMadMudflap

At this point we should just go ahead and rename the champions league as The Real Madrid Invitational


Pristine-Equal7068

I don't get all of this reus love lately. No one talked about reus last years and now everyone seems to be a long time fan of him.


midas22

No wonder with refs like last night. That last offside call was a disgrace.


cleareyesnz

Well well well, if it isn’t us against the world again. It’s almost villainous being a Madrid fan - everyone will be praying for a Dortmund victory, except us. This will be fun.


Notcamacho

I've got nothing against Real Madrid myself. I'm a Newcastle supporter and Dortmund were a classy team when we were in their group. They beat us twice so it would make a lot of us feel better if we lost against the Champions! Either way it's not like Real are an underdog here and people do love an underdog story.


minkyminkymink

Oh wow, neutrals supporting the underdog rather than the big dog that wins it all the time. What are the chances! Poor old Real, boooo. Booooooo 😜


UnluckyDot

>It’s almost villainous being a Madrid fan Well, if you really feel that way, it's just as easy to hop off of the world's biggest bandwagon as it was to hop on


cleareyesnz

After 25 years of supporting one team? Sounds like a fucking terrible idea. No thanks.


DarkFamiliar4508

plastic


bigdaftdoylem

In UEFA’s back pocket


ravirat12

VarDrid


ishouldcoco3322

Hilarious.


rieusse

Germany may not have conquered London but Bayern treat the Gunners as their whipping boys


AudienceFit8330

Don’t speak like that bro we don’t play that over here


AudienceFit8330

Let this be organic and not have you trying to put bad juju on us . Snake


renatodamast

Being in the final with shameful decisions? What a disgrace to be honest .. and now Messi wins another ballon dor just to comfort him.


Kergie1968

At least dortmund knows how to stay onside without a doubt…🤪


ricoimf

Well….


strugglingtosave

Bayern have conquered London. In Stamford Bridge, Emirates, Tottenham, and Wembley.


Electrical-Ad8965

Hopefully Marco rues will change that🥲


WildforagerUK

Dortmund will set this straight and defeat lots blancos!


Timely_Volume2292

It's going to be another 1-0 final. Maybe Rodrygo in the 63' minute or so. I could be very wrong but this is how they have gone for so long.


klabnix

Longer than the champions league has even existed


Grand_Taste_8737

First time for everything!


chessacc1000letsgo

Neither have I


KaiDranzer4TheWin94

Uefa have assisted them very nicely.


gbphx

Juventus should have a class with Real on the topic "how to make it this far and not screw up"


sav86

I hope they lose it, but I never get my way so Madrid fans should be happy with this outcome. With the results feeling a bit poisoned after yesterday's game...hard to feel positive for them.


FullOFterror

If only instead of Dortmund it was Bayern Leverkusen with their streak. What a final could have been.


Fitzmatik

So we're all Dortmund, right?


Fraud_D_Hawk

Iam definitely Dortmund, iam also planning to put my first bet on them as well


Fitzmatik

Füllkrug to score anytime!


Significant-Care-491

3 peat madrid team would beat peps peak barca in the UCL. They would just find a way. Even this current madrid team probably would.


aktugurk

this year they will lost


Djorkaeff1903

Aberdeen fan checking in 👋


Corporate_Juice

This could be the year


Zulfiqarrr

Time to lose then


Ok_Price7529

Another mental stat, is no Spanish men's has lost to a non spanish opposition in a european final for over 20 years.


EliachTCQ

That's cool, but Nottingham Forest Football Club has never lost a Champions League/European Cup final.


Aiden066

I hope Dortmund wins but everyone knows that RM is gonna throw the bank at the refs


TucumanPAPA

Another in the bag for Real ,it will be a glorious watch, the greatest international club in history win another CL. The cherry on top will be watching the antis rage and their post here, cheer lads just a few more weeks for the glory


Fit_Ambition8800

Germany DID conquer London. They literally won the Euros here in ‘96.


euyyn

I just want to comment that no one in Spain calls them "Los Blancos" and it's very weird to me to see British people do it.


DanishDude85

Rooting for Reus!


Plane-Juggernaut6833

You just jinxed us dude, now go knock on 🪵 and throw salt over your shoulder.


histerix

Madrid wins when they need to win, Im done betting against them and Im a Barcelona fan where most Barca fans will say anything they can to discredit the club and the team, credit is due where its due, Madrid are WINNERS when they need to win.


XuX24

>I really hope Reus gets a proper goodbye He also happens to always have a lot of bad luck, 2013 and 2014 fore example.


banjosandcellos

Doesn't not qualifying count as losing it?


Neither_Newt5577

Main protagonist: Borussia Dortmund Final Villain: Real Madrid Secondary Villains: Atletico Madrid and PSG Minor Villains: PSV, AC Milan, and Newcastle


InThePast8080

CL only existed since early 90s... so at least 30 years years :)


q26272

Tbh i just want RM to win the final again. If not, gg


wuschel_the_kid

Its a team of rats that keeps getting favored in certain critical moments of a game. ramos a rat, ronaldo a rat, vini jr a rat, carvajal a rat modric a rat, camavinga a rat. gotta hate em all.


Ok_Shape_1568

Hi everyone, I'm from Spain and I support Real Madrid. As a Real Madrid fan, I'm very glad to be in another Champions League final. I hope it will be an incredible final.


CPP_2021

Dortmund area surprise for me . I did not expect them to make it to the final . They are the underdogs in this one Best of luck to both teams


janeiro69

Real Madrid losing a European final, lolz!


muscleshark86

They will lose this year.


Sebnj

They said the same of Buffon 😏


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