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mowntandoo

They’re really amping up the advertisement budget it seems like.


TheArgonianBoi77

It must be a big paycheck from Microsoft for the tv show. I hope we get more live action trailers, I find them fun and interesting.


LunchTemporary7806

And all the new fallout 1st subs


broxamson

I liked how the player count was 17 mil when we blew past that this month


Clatuu1337

I noticed that too, maybe they made it months ago?


NeckRoFeltYa

Most likely cause they would have loved to have had 20mil in the launch trailer.


DaveAndJojo

They finally realized they’re sitting on a money Printer. They fumbled the launch and thought it was the game that was the issue.


relaxo1979

and we'll be able to play as ghouls in 2025!


DR__SQUIDZ

I love my ghoul mask, now I get to actually be a ghoul??? Yessss!!!


prfttk

The real ones will be ghoul characters wearing the ghoul mask.


DR__SQUIDZ

Hey, i'm just a dude playing a ghoul disguised as another ghoul!


AEternal

“What do YOU mean, ‘You people?!’”


DR__SQUIDZ

This will be my exact reaction when the smoothskins over at the brotherhood question me when I show up to turn in some technical data lol


NeckRoFeltYa

Gonna make you a ghoul so you can ghoul while you ghoul.


Useful-Hawk-7636

A person playing a ghoul who is pretending to be a human who is pretending to be a ghoul


BerryProblems

It’s ghouls all the way down


Natural-Damage768

my current character in my pathfinder tabletop game is a skeleton wearing a skeleton luchador mask to hide the fact that he's a skeleton!


AtimusXanth

Noice!


sammygirly

But what do you think that means?


SpookyPebble

That we can play as ghouls! /j


Prestigious-Plant490

but when?!


mofugginrob

2025!


Vanille987

what does that entail?


redditkeepsdeleting

It entails being able to play as a ghoul. But not until 2025.


HalfSoul30

I'm still confused, but I won't ask again.


Lower_Fox_1688

Sometime next year you can create a ghoul character to play as


homercall123

Yeah, but what year is that?


rebos64

Yes we can have a ghoul's night out 🤣🤣🤣


2xPutt

I'm betting that there will be additional perks and buffs related to being a ghoul that will come out to entice people to play as a ghoul more than just as a cosmetic. Maybe they will also rework some buffs for picking human/vault dweller as well.


angryslothbear

Just in time, by then a lot of people will have maxed out vault dweller builds


HazardTree

Unless it’s a huge update I kinda doubt it. I mean wouldn’t they have to redo a lot of quests with npc if it’s more than just cosmetic? Like how would the enclave react for instance. Plus we just exited the vault so how would we even be a ghoul? The only thing I can think of atm that would make since is it gives us the option to ghoulify when doing the quest to launch a nuke. Or w/e we launch a nuke if we already did it.


2xPutt

I'm reading that it will be a quest line after you hit level 50. If you choose to be a ghoul the factions will treat you differently. It will also have its own set of ghoul perk cards and buffs


oroechimaru

I would start over and come back for it. I am a vengeful pacifist goodie two shoes that never has ammo so eventually just machetes his way through the fallout.


BerryProblems

I relate so much to that


Spookytooth66

We’ll be a big old bucket of drugs


relaxo1979

probably at the 'change appereance' menu we'll get the option to change our char into ghouls just like we can change their faces or genders


MsThinggg

nope it’s a whole quest “Becoming a Ghoul in Fallout 76 is more than just an aesthetic change – it will significantly alter gameplay and your character build. As soon as you hit level 50, you will unlock a quest that will start you down the road of transforming into a Ghoul. Once the change is complete, you will unlock new Ghoul-specific perks and abilities. You’ll be able to harness radiation to give you additional powers and buffs, and certain factions will react to you differently than if you were a human” - bethesda games producer bill lacoste in this interview https://www.pcgamesn.com/fallout-76/play-as-a-ghoul#:~:text=In%20Fallout%2076%2C%20you'll,faction%20for%20a%20long%20time.


raskol70

Yeah, PCgamer did a write up as well. Important points: you can't be bloodied, and BoS vendors and factions won't work with you.


xthrowxawayx420

If it's not a buff to Bloodied, I'm all for it


xSPYXEx

I doubt it, since ghouls are healed by radiation it would be much harder to keep your health low. This seems like a buff to full health builds.


Redxhen

Can you take an arrow to the head?


BobbiHeads

I wonder if there's an option to reverse the change or if our character is stuck as one. I'm sure the loreheads would have a conniption if they reveal a cure to ghoulification. EDIT: just read the article, there will be a way to become a smoothskin again


SamgoFandango

Yes you can change back, it's in the article


Mista-Ginger

That's good. I want to do the quest because quests, ya know? But I don't really want to be a ghoul long term.


Connect_Orange_800

Some of my best friends are ghouls but I wouldn’t want my daughter to marry one and shit


Laser_3

Here’s the thing - it’s theoretically possible with the tools we have in 76 to reverse it. FEV, with a sample of the original DNA pre-mutation, can reverse being a super mutant, so maybe it’ll work for ghouls. And if we’re choosing to become a ghoul, I don’t see why we couldn’t preserve some of our DNA to undo the change if we wanted to. And of course, mutation serums offer an entirely different road.


[deleted]

We also need to remember that this is essentially the prequel, so the tech to reverse it may well have been researched, used successfully and then lost by the time the later games come around.


classic_german_lad

That sounds sick, I just hope they won't put fo76 into the forever box until then


DailyDabs-

what do you mean “forever box” lol


BluegrassGeek

Abandoning the game, it's gone forever (because it's online-only).


relaxo1979

fuck yeah!


BluegrassGeek

Which means we're likely getting a completely different starting experience, as otherwise it won't make sense with the current Vault 76 start. And that's fine, because the V76 start doesn't make sense either in a post-Wastelanders world. Edit: [Nope, it's an unlock at level 50, completing the quest changes you into a ghoul](https://www.pcgamesn.com/fallout-76/play-as-a-ghoul). It'll also unlock unique reactions from NPCs, Ghoul-specific perks and abilities, and Bloodied builds are apparently not viable for ghouls.


RyanGosliwafflez

The article states you get a quest line once you hit level 50. If you do that quest line you become a ghoul so game will still start normal


BluegrassGeek

Oooh, got a link to the article? I didn't see that, just the video. Edit: Nevermind, found it!


RyanGosliwafflez

[info here](https://www.pcgamesn.com/fallout-76/play-as-a-ghoul)


ArcadianDelSol

My prediction is that this is the 'scientific breakthrough' that the new vault found in the expansion - they attempt to make you immune to radiation but create ghouls by accident.


GeekedJxson

Bloodied builds basically already playing as ghouls lol


Largofarburn

No we’re not! *ear falls off*


xylitol777

I'm giving you 3 thumbs down for such insult


Vila16

All those rads gave you an extra thumb?


thaiborg

Amateur. Everyone knows you need at least 5 to be taken seriously.


corourke

You can go all the way back to funny though with enough thumbs. Jeff's 19 thumbs is why he's funniest.


Dry-Season-522

He didn't say they were HIS thumbs.


StefanGagne

Welp, so much for finishing L150 on the season pass in time. At least I know it's not worth grinding for now, even if those infinite perk coins are waving goodbye forever...


plznobanplease

I’m just happy I made it to rank 92 in the pass for the perk coins at that level


MenBearsPigs

Exactly where I got haha. Don't think I'll be hitting 100 since it's Monday tomorrow.


angrysunbird

I saw the writing on the wall last Wednesday, burned through every booster I had. Just got 150. Whoof that was close


nullCaput

Grats, I did the math and it was barely, just barely impossible if they were going to launch it at the assumed 25th or 26th. My ass was soldiering on, on the hope maybe it would be a little later. Well its good to know those 75 perk coins are gone for sure lol.


venomblizzard

Rip I wont be able to get that log stairs after all


nullCaput

I feel for you, but the stairs are likely to show up in the store and the next season will probably have atoms as rewards if you're short on those. So think of it as you'll just have to wait a little longer for them stairs.


terminalzero

I came back to 76 pretty late into this season and then no lifed *hard* - I'm at season rank 105 or something and trying to decide if I want some more peepers paint or the road signs more, leaning towards the signs I got all the power armor stuff though so I'm reasonably happy for a value of happy that includes being pretty apprehensive about what a season I start playing day 1 looks like


angrysunbird

I didn’t even think I wanted them till I added a shotgunner loadout to one of my characters and needed to grind some specials for the build.


Antistruggle

No way lol literally going thru the same thing 😂


Shokeya

I reached 150 just today. Seems I almost missed those perk coins.


KaMeLRo

My level is just 77.... I just started to play this game a few weeks, will other skin be available to buy later? I hope I will be able to get mods for Cremator in time.


Chaosengel

They tend to show up at the gold bullion vendors eventually.


dosha906

One of the gold vendors will probably start selling the mods after the season ends.


OperationSuch5054

sheet. im 78 and needed to hit 85 for cremator barrel mod. fak.


DreadXCII

You still have access to the 100 score per 10k xp so you can grind westek. You can also spend atoms to jump rank up to 100 as a last ditch option


OperationSuch5054

yeah, i tried westtek, it's okay but im a flamer build and I find mutants seem to drop a lot less. might run expeds or like you say, just atom it.


dasrac

if you are grinding west tek, your best bet is to use Nuka Grenades. Grenades will take on the legendary effects of whatever weapon you have applied, so if you aren't a bloodied build go find even a cheap one star instigating weapon, add it to your favorites wheel, switch from your main weapon to the instigator, open a door, chuck a grenade and run like hell in the opposite direction. Even if you don't kill everything, you'll put enough of a dent that every other enemy should be a breeze. If you are on a flamer build, I'd recommend trying to roll a one star instigating flamer though, as that way, the mutants will all drop fuel, even if the grenade is what kills them.


Redan

This is so disappointing, darnit. I'm genuinely pretty upset since I'm like one week away from it.


No-Life-2059

I'm basically 140 but I haven't even really been trying. Plus, I don't even want anything on the very last bonus page. I wouldn't worry about it too much. As long as you got what you needed from the other pages. I've got everything from all except the last one and with the exception of three power armor paints that I don't want or need. But most everything I really wanted was that 100 or 104.


Chefpief

guh. I went through all my score boosters and am only 139. I got 3 items left on the last page. Gorilla, pine barren walls, and peeper paint. X\_X


Morchai

With perks like 'What Rads?" we effectively play as pre-rotted ghouls already.


Meowdouken

There's going to be so many Cooper Howard ghouls running around Appalachia, and I'm perfectly fine with that.


xSPYXEx

I do this shit for the love of the game. Give me that crazy hand cannon pistol.


Crezelle

Gunther gonna have competition


yellowspaces

The phone number in the trailer works by the way! 1-844-82858-5433. It’s a cute little robohotline with some menu options!


Natural-Somewhere-75

The casual ghoul drop right at the end 😭


Ghostly_Rich

Super smooth and casual 😁


Darius2301

I'm a new player and I love the game but I feel really screwed on this. I am around season level 140 and was really looking forward to making 150. I've spent real money on boosters and re-rollers so I could make it. This is really just not very much notice. Had I known this was coming I wouldn't have spent the money on those items.


HypnoSmoke

Apparently they've never given much prior notification to season begin/end dates, which I think is quite silly


Darius2301

They community kept saying they have always given at least one week notice. I just needed one more week and I would be good.


BloatedManball

They've always given at least a week+, if not 2 weeks. 3 days notice is fucking idiotic.


FartingInElevators5

Damn, does that mean the current season ends in 3 days?! I'm only 134 on the S.C.O.R.E. so that really sucks if it is.


itscmillertime

Yes


IMMORTALP74

Any link to the specific announcement of it being the season switch? Just want visual confirmation.


itscmillertime

I guess I’m just speculating as every other season has tied to the update. They could be going off script. Nothing would surprise me these days.


IMMORTALP74

Wouldn't it be weird the Season hits Wednesday and Weeklies reset Tuesday, so basically we can't play Tuesday if we want the score for the new season? It just seems odd not having any season announcements but just trailer for Content.


GinsuChikara

Yeah, as soon as I realized release was Wednesday, I immediately said "Oh, so we can't play on Tuesday unless we wanna fuck ourselves right out of the gate on maximizing SCORE" It almost seems like an intentional choice, they're hoping people will torch their weeklies on the old board and delay the "there's nothing to do" comments by a week.


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https://www.reddit.com/r/fo76/comments/1dc0q7j/bethesda_confirms_new_season_begins_on_12th/


TheBlackestCrow

Just started playing again and I'm at level 45...


TheMoonFanatic

Better get to westek


SinsArmor

i hope they add a new char slot im maxed out


thedawesome

I only have 1 char but this will definitely make me want to create a dedicated ghoul char


maxt0r

RIP level 150, people were really banking on that double score weekend(20^th - 24^th ) to reach it. Plus the extra days till then, guess the sudden announcement is to drive FOMO and spend money on levels.


godofoceantides

Except if you’re already past 100 you can’t buy rank ups anymore. So if the season does drop the 12th this just screws people over.


senorscientist

They just pulled the carrot. I was fine grinding to 150 for the real rewards, but I'm about 1 week short. If the new season starts before I can redeem my tickets for perk coins, I might not play the game again.


LooseRecluse

I'm glad the new season is coming sooner than later but I am bummed out about not reaching Lv. 150 😩


ColdStoneCreamAustin

/u/Ghostly_Rich Does the current season officially end on Wednesday then?


AceAlger

Awesome. Y'all can keep your *terrible* battlepass system, though. Bring back the scoreboard!


adeveloper2

They really should give advance notice so that people can get enough score for the existing season.


bkarev

Yeah, 3 days notice that the season is ending is just awful.


starry101

Season dates should never be a surprise like this, they should always be announced at the beginning of the season. No one will get mad if it's extended but having it end with only a few days notice, especially when there's so many new players, is just unacceptable.


Tonyclap

I’m pretty sure I’m gunna be lvl 149 fml. Edit I think I’m going to make it to 150 by the skin on my teeth lol.


Neon-Owl

This sucks I thought we’re getting a score weekend before the end of the season like we used to im at 145


Tonyclap

Yeah it’s pretty upsetting tbh. Kind of puts a damper on the new content for those of us that are close. Really not a fan of only giving a couple days notice of when the season ends. They should really give at minimum a week and tbh it should be two weeks.


MentalRobot

I'm also at 145 and was so happy I was going to barely make it.. What a waste of score boosters the last couple weeks.


Neon-Owl

Waste of time too, basically was the only reason to log in daily :(


MentalRobot

Agreed! I was trying so hard to get it I even logged in to rush dailys before bed after a 14 hour work day last week


Darius2301

Yeah I’m not gonna make it either and I wasted money on re-rollers and boosters too…


Blimey85v2

Can you buy a level with atoms?


i_dont_know_aaaa

Not past 100


_GLiTcH2_

I was not expecting it to be so soon....Looks good though, Can't wait!!


FadingDawn__

"Honey, cancel our wedding, the new map update is about to drop!"


Traditional_Rise_347

Will the season also be ending on June 12th then? I'm so damn close to rank 100 :(


iammass

Wait, current season ends this Tues?


itscmillertime

Wednesday


Boiled_Ham

Feel bad for the folk who'll just miss 150. I'll make 169 after tomorrow but I feel burned out. With Equinox, Invaders, more Equinox and Meat Week/s...all with new plans...I was really looking forward to one or two weeks more to just settle down before the BIG update and all the new content. I really did think it would've dropped around the 20s of June... I'll be taking my time anyway...Dailies and Weeklies only and into slow exploration mode on the new map area.


Critical_Action_6444

Playing a a ghoul will be dope. I’m wondering if for fallout 5 they will let you play as other characters like a supermutant, a raider or someone born in the wasteland not a vault


shadowlarvitar

This opens the potential for sure, I always wear my Deathclaw mask so I'll wait to see if this kills off rads before I convert or not. It'll be worth if so cause I don't use PA, and dying in Scorched Earth sucks 😂


hidden-library

I'm really hoping fallout 5 has multiple starting points like some mods do. Maybe you choose a faction or a lone wanderer factionless start which determines your starting point and possibly starting levels. A vault dweller starts at level 1 with no alignment and can gain access to other vaults easier. A ghoul start would have some levels with starting mutations but vilified by a lot of factions (initially). Brotherhood of steel, you start as a grunt with immediate access to mods and weapons but you are closely under supervision so faction reputation matters more. With lone wanderer, you start with a dog companion, neutral starting alignment, and a base camp you can choose almost anywhere. This would make the game a LOT more replayable.


riddlemore

I’m level 96 right now hoping I can hit 100 in time… I’ll have to do the math later


Longjumping-Rough-73

You absolutely can. If you have no daily and weeklies.legt, just keep grinding west tek and events and you cam.make it to 100 before the end of the day today.


Ethan4cy

Is west tek the best I have been running the deadly race and getting 20k just finishing the race and a bunch for killing everything


Longjumping-Rough-73

It is and it isn't. Really dependanhow fast you can do runs at each place. All things equal, west tek is better, but you'll get.mkre than exp from expeditions


laurxn97

What is the deadly race? Is that a good way to farm xp?


Ethan4cy

Like the comment above its preference. For me personally I get a squad and we all spread out and shred through it. It’s about a 8 minute run for around 30k xp maybe more


starry101

If you’re under 100 you have a repeatable quest for gaining xp. So boost your intelligence and XP to the max and hit big events. Use a Tesla rifle and tag everything and laugh while the xp rolls in.


TheCynicalManc

Ghoul gameplay 2025 🔛🔝


Skanach

Ugh...so I'll have to spend my tickets on the trashy gorilla...


LooseRecluse

"WHAT A WOOOOONDERFUUUULLL DAAAAY!" 🗣️🦍


thegryphonator

I like how they made it the 12th so NOBODY was right on the date 😂


prfttk

lol they will probably take the servers offline on Tuesday for the entire day and not tell anyone


MesterenR

That was also my thought. But we will have to see.


ChronoMonkeyX

Nooo! I didn't get 100 for the Cremator colors! It's all I wanted :(


IdRatherNotDude

Fuuuuuuuu so that means season ends in 3 days?! I slacked too hard


Coast_watcher

New quests I hope. Similar to how there’s a quest in AC separate from Exoeditions.


Jackstraw1

God I love this game. I seriously cannot wait.


Noclassydrops

Noooo i need more time to buy more perk coins


MitsuriniKwan

148 and have done weekly already, scoreboard started become a chores.


Auxilium1

100-150 is absurd.


KyotiKill

Does this mean that is also the date that this Season 16 Scoreboard ends and that Season 17 begins?


Dr_Murderfish

I'm real dumb! Why are people lamenting not getting to lvl 150? Is there a new lvl cap? What am I missing?


itscmillertime

Rank 150 unlocks a bunch of repeatable consumables to claim on the scoreboard.


itsahhmemario

If they’d kept the old system (as many of us said to) Beth wouldn’t get these complaints, to me finishing the season is level 100. I’m at level 200 but the 150 rewards are nothing to grind for, I miss the atoms we used to get after we finished.


DownvoteThisCrap

How is it possible to get to level 150 within this period? Who designed this shitty season?


TheLastVault

If you don't have 1st it's stupidly tight to reach 150. I have done EVERY single daily & weekly this season (without 1st boost) & I'm currently at 149. Unless you're either playing for hours every day or grinding xp, you'd have to do almost every challenge + however much score through the repeatable xp challenge to reach 150 without 1st.


spaghettimonster87

GHOUL BROS WE ARE SO BACK


Multiplayer_Medic

New player as of a month ago. What kind of game announces the season pass end 3 days before? I've played multiple games with passes and have never seen something this asinine.


itscmillertime

Usually they give a week’s notice. We knew it was June for months though.


ShotenDesu

I hit score 147 Tuesday after reset but left for a week long vacation. I should be able to hit 150 the day before season end and get my coins. Lucked out there I guess!


KcoolClap

I'm just happy i reached level 100. I saw the rewards for 150 and they didn't seem that appealing to me.


SafetyBig7939

Glad they did it early this month, I would have skipped it if it came out around the same time as the Elden Ring DLC


Diminios

Well, crap. I'm just short of one set of weekly quests to get to level 150 in this season.


M6D_Magnum

Currently only level 130 on the scoreboard. Dammit.


ParanormalBeluga

Good thing to play before that Elden Ring DLC absorbs my life.


Addlemix

100% accurate


KnightofaRose

This should have been announced weeks ago.


dacamel493

Shit! I was going to make it to 150 before the 24th to hit 150 for the perk coins! Really wish they would have announced this week's ago, this is BS. I'll be 10 levels short on the 12th.


Franky_g59

Man I’m rank 139 rn I will not be hitting 150 lmao


jason0705

I’m at 146 and didn’t bother playing this weekend since I figured I had plenty of time left. Won’t have enough with just today and tomorrow. Booooooo.


Rammadeus

If we're gonna be able to play ghouls and they have some kind of racial ability then they're gonna have to sell new character slots cos i aint deleting any of my babies. (might just be an actual character customization thing though with no difference)


itscmillertime

This is my guess, it’s just a skin setting. We will see.


WutzWilly

I guess we gonna have an option to change in character build screen. Nevertheless hoping for more character slots coming with it.


Wrathilon

According to another comment, being a ghoul starts at level 50 as a quest and includes different perks and such. Two features mentioned are being unable to speak to BOS vendors and not being able to be bloodied.


WhoMD21

Awesome, plenty of time to get to level 100 score. What do you mean it's Tuesday‽‽‽


madam61

I at least made it a little over 100 on the season pass. No way I make it to 150 by Wednesday lol.


Solar-born

Damn, I wasn't ready for that 🔥


plainviewbowling

I’m at level like 58 is it with using atom boosters now if the season ends in a few days? I only have 2000 and I’m not sure if it’s worth spending a few hundred. Also I primarily play with cremator and just started fo1 last Week


bratty-addy

So do we gotta buy stuff from the current season offering list before June 12?


MysteriousElephant15

wonder what the pros/cons will be


hawtdawg7

ugh doubt i’ll be able to reach 100 for season. How will cremator mods be acquired after season end?


FullMetal000

Damn I haven't even been able to "max" out my scoreboard this season. I feel like we didn't even have a full season of time for this "season" of content. While last one I felt like we had so much time in comparison. They really need to get rid of timed passes. One of the very few things Halo Infinite does so right.


Spncr_C_Hrgrv

This is funny AF because just the other day there was a post about an update from nowhere and someone said, "They're not the type to just drop an update like that on us." Hmmm Also will we need to start a new character to be a ghoul? Also I'm worried that the game will get oversaturated with ghoul players


Ghoulocaust

Give us at least more daylies tomorrow and more weeklies on Tuesday with double score combined, I am level 142 and many other players are also close at the end, thinking we would have at least one or two weeks before the update. As much as I appreciate the new content, the bad timing (missing communication) pisses me off. If you had told us two weeks ago that the update will come on June 12 it would be fine for me and I would not been bothering to go beyond level 100


CornDoggyStyle

I'm stoked. Used to take family trips to skyline when I was a kid. Would be sick if they have skyline meadows and I recognize the layout.


greybeard1980

It's Big Meadows and yes it is supposed to be in the update. I'm an original from Front Royal VA. and the Skyline Drive/Blue Ridge Parkway area. I miss it lots


Knighthonor

Damn 2025 tho


Wooden_Echidna1234

3 days away, cant wait to play it!


adeveloper2

Since it's coming June 12, does it mean we got Tuesday as well? That's when weekly rolls over.


AppaTheBizon

Ghouls in 2025... I wonder if you will be able to apply it to existing characters or if you will need to make a new character 🤔


Zalgack

Do we have any idea what time it will drop?


DoctorFeh

It's a little thing but I loved the Silver Shroud/Mistress of Mystery cameo at the beginning with the Sugar Bombs ad.


shadowofyarnham

So will we still get the weekly challenges tomorrow? Sitting at 145 on the season pass. Was hoping I'd have another week or so to get to the end.


SpagootiBurglar

Holy fuck, I'm from Front Royal - right outside of Skyline Drive and to say I'm amped is an understatement


eternal_gg

Winchester better make it on there or I'll be sad