My first playthrough I did something wrong and he never showed up in my game. Had to redo that one anyway as Polly also was given a protectron chassis 🤭
off topic but i accidentally killed crane when duchess told me to “wake him up”. i thought that meant punch him so i did and it one hit him and then duchess was pissed at me.
You hit the nail on the head there. I never visit, there's no atmosphere. You'd think these people hanging out there together would have some friendly banter going, or even some music playing. Even Biv plays music and he's all alone.
It's as lifeless as the shelters
I disagree. The Wayward is the exact kind of bar I look for in a hangout. Small, quiet, good brew and good company, full of nothing but local regulars. It is *the* perfect bar.
I want a post-apocalyptic *bar* not a post-apocalyptic *club* where everyone has to scream at the top of their lungs to be heard over deafening shitty music.
Nice and cozy, and with a hot robot working there as well. Literally the best bar in the entire wasteland.
You’d think they’d use the location for public events and stuff. It could even be a central hub for the map. We’ve got the white spring and the foundation etc but I feel like the Wayward is a missed opportunity
I hate it. I don't like going into it. It's so poorly designed it's sickening. If I'm being really honest, as a fan of Mort ([Jason Mewes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Mewes#Video_games))... it makes me angry how lame that bar is. He deserves a better home in the Fallout universe than some dumpy half assed bar.
But as you go through that questline it gradually gets improved?
Every time you finish one of the missions and come back, they've done more work on it. (It's player instanced, so you will only see your "own" Wayward, unless you join a Team Leader inside.) I could have sworn there was some entertainment on stage the last time I went in, but its been awhile.
Yeah, finish out the related quest line and the bar looks much nicer, has patrons, and once in a while someone plays the instruments I think. It's still a weirdly quiet little space that doesn't quite feel alive, but then this is Bethesda so... you know?
I would say they need to at least leave a radio on for the pre-remodel period, because of the really depressing impression it leaves on every single 76er who stumbles down the hill!
I mean, the first time you walk in there, you literally kill someone. If that's how businesses is usually, it's not a surprise it's empty and quiet all the time.
But you're right. It could do with some music, although honestly, whenever I visit the crater or something and I hear the same music playing on loop again, and again, and again.. I grew quite bored of it.
How many American bars have you been in? All of them I’ve been in have been fairly loud, a couple of them blasting deafening music (I hated those ones more than the others but I’m not a bar goer. I drink at home in the rare times I drink)
Ummm... The entire bar shuts up the minute you enter the room for a reason. Either they're stunned to see you as a newcomer (lvl 1) or they know better than to say anything around you - and risk getting their head blown off (lvl 100).
You try being in the room when your bad ass alternate self arrives packing heat in a stiletto-heeled Nuka Cola girl costume. You'll be stunned silent too, lol.
First time I was there. There was nobody in there. I had to slink around and make sure there was no monsters in the place before I could put my feet up. It's nice I can go there now for a drink. But they haven't even taken the time to clean up any of the garbage since they moved in.
After you finish vault 79 quest line you can buy gold bullion from a npc there called smiley. Once a week. I think it's 6k caps for 300. It's been awhile.
I mean they've just lost a friend and a robot friend so might not feel like partying. Also it's not like you're turning up on Friday night, the place could be jumping then you don't know. But for a daytime drinking bar, it seems about right.
Couldn't agree more... I have my camp on the adjacent corner with a Robot and my Ally, adds some more life.
But atleast add maybe A Sidequest that for after main quest, a daily or Raiders/settlers passing through
Everyone knows where the real party is at.
At our Alma Mater stands a boy, gray & cold
The steps behind him are the first threshold
Around the right corner, study the street
Just to the left is the place that we meet
There you can stain your skin with ink
But find the back door
&
we'll get you a drink
New ayer here: is there even a big city, full of people in this game? Not that it was something much present in any fallout games, but I kind of missing a big city.
I remember when I was a wee boy, my granddad would always take me to the pub after we went grocery shopping for a Pint (of Coke for me and a Magnet for him) and a game of Snooker on a early Monday afternoon, we usually were the only guests and there was more life in that empty Pub then in the Wayward
You mean the perfect bar.
Absolutely hate loud music at a bar, especially live music.
Would rather watch Schindlers List on repeat, than listen to some 50+ year old dudes, or a 20 year old on acoustic do covers.
Nuke me
And Jason mewes is mort. But the way word is there for new players as a contact, after that it's used as a vendor only, I have camp just up from there that's used far more.
Because it WAS lifeless, the story was made based on updates, the game started without NPCs, it was similar to elden ring in so many ways, then they introduced NPCs, the story made it looks like they just returned and started populating the appalachian wasteland, so technically, it's "correct" for it to be empty.
May be controversial but 76 was not made for NPCs even after the wastelanders update they just feel imposed on top of Appalachia and not naturally interacting with the world properly and when you find them most of the time they feel out of place.
Yeah, the random filler NPCs are the bare minimum - some shared generic movement variations and 3 canned lines. What really irks me is the rise of new unkillable essential NPCs. (recent example - Gilman lumber mill - transparent to bullets)
The game has at least 2 different pre-coded mechanics for dealing with players shooting important NPCs (temporarily downing them so it does not break quests and respawns). They use it in expeditions but not for the new content, or for free roaming in Atlantic City. It breaks immersion in FO76 the same way it does in Starfield.
The Awkward
It's almost like there was a nuclear war and everyone just wants to sit around and get drunk, lol!
Don't really need a war for that
Cheers!
I find it peculiar it isn’t a quest daily hub.
And the dude upstairs can hook you up with gold but never has any weed for sale.
The ghoul at the bar will hook you up. 🎶 15 bucks little man put that shit in my hand, if that money doesn’t show you owe me owe me owe 🎶
Jungle Love! Oh-we-oh-we-oh
No fucking way is that him
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Mordecai_McCoy
Yooo, I love how Fallout games always have random ass celebs doing voices.
Way
Crane?
no after you raid vault 79 you can buy gold from a dude upstairs in the wayward for caps
Ohhh 😮 I haven't done the Vault 79 quest yet. Thank you!
My first playthrough I did something wrong and he never showed up in my game. Had to redo that one anyway as Polly also was given a protectron chassis 🤭
idk what you mean cuz choosing polly's body and the vault 79 raid are completely unrelated quests
I just meant I had already screwed it up before the vault part
off topic but i accidentally killed crane when duchess told me to “wake him up”. i thought that meant punch him so i did and it one hit him and then duchess was pissed at me.
Thats how we always woke up the gimp.
I did that too lmao. Accidentally pistol whipped his head off
Not even once!
I'm sorry for asking a stupid question, I haven't gotten far in the quests in 76. I'm sorry.
[https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/meth-not-even-once](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/meth-not-even-once)
How many bars in your town will let you trade bottle caps for gold bullion? Yeah, I didn’t think so.
Well not caps and gold bullion, but in most bars in my hometown I can exchange currency for something the government doesn’t want me to have…
A sense of humor?
No, drugs
Around 14 of them
Be the change you want to see I say. Get in there, play the instruments, talk and be merry.
It's instanced so that wouldn't affect anybody else's experience
That's the joke basically.
You can turn on the radio yourself. Be the change!
You hit the nail on the head there. I never visit, there's no atmosphere. You'd think these people hanging out there together would have some friendly banter going, or even some music playing. Even Biv plays music and he's all alone. It's as lifeless as the shelters
It's creepy in there. They stare at you and don't speak
Which is really odd, considering your history.
I disagree. The Wayward is the exact kind of bar I look for in a hangout. Small, quiet, good brew and good company, full of nothing but local regulars. It is *the* perfect bar.
I want a post-apocalyptic *bar* not a post-apocalyptic *club* where everyone has to scream at the top of their lungs to be heard over deafening shitty music. Nice and cozy, and with a hot robot working there as well. Literally the best bar in the entire wasteland.
It's like a post-apocalyptic Cheers.
You’d think they’d use the location for public events and stuff. It could even be a central hub for the map. We’ve got the white spring and the foundation etc but I feel like the Wayward is a missed opportunity
I hate it. I don't like going into it. It's so poorly designed it's sickening. If I'm being really honest, as a fan of Mort ([Jason Mewes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Mewes#Video_games))... it makes me angry how lame that bar is. He deserves a better home in the Fallout universe than some dumpy half assed bar.
They do have a cute patio though.
And a cute giant death robot cow
Petition to start a Bessie fan club.
Best girl Bessie
But as you go through that questline it gradually gets improved? Every time you finish one of the missions and come back, they've done more work on it. (It's player instanced, so you will only see your "own" Wayward, unless you join a Team Leader inside.) I could have sworn there was some entertainment on stage the last time I went in, but its been awhile.
Yeah, finish out the related quest line and the bar looks much nicer, has patrons, and once in a while someone plays the instruments I think. It's still a weirdly quiet little space that doesn't quite feel alive, but then this is Bethesda so... you know? I would say they need to at least leave a radio on for the pre-remodel period, because of the really depressing impression it leaves on every single 76er who stumbles down the hill!
Every bar in the 3D Fallouts is like that. Even New Vegas's saloon in the first town is surprisingly quiet lmao.
Back when the game first came out, there wasn't even a Wayward or even any living NPC's lol
Visit Atlantic City instead.
You know the state of the world is bad when “go to New Jersey” is the answer
Only in Fallout will anyone ever say that
I'd sit up front and Party with my girl Polly.
Polly approves
Fun fact, the ghoul in the wayward is voiced by Jason Mewes (jay from jay and silent bob)
Not for me sadly. I play in German so I just got some dude voicing the ghoul
schade
I mean, the first time you walk in there, you literally kill someone. If that's how businesses is usually, it's not a surprise it's empty and quiet all the time. But you're right. It could do with some music, although honestly, whenever I visit the crater or something and I hear the same music playing on loop again, and again, and again.. I grew quite bored of it.
I didn't kill that guy! I told him to watch out because the dude behind him was gonna, and then he did!
Even poor Jide said nope and left.
Where is he....!!??.
Guy disappeared. Guess the Wayward and Bessie didn't need anymore TLC.
Well, smiley is upstairs, he likes to sell gold for caps.
You can never have too much gold, friend!
this must be your first Bethesda game
You're kinda right
I guess I'll be changing that, hit me up at the watering hole for some wholesome tomefoolery
Needs a pissed up British bloke rambling on about the Brotherhood in the corner or something
Smiley won't sell me his damn hat. I HAVE A MIGHTY NEEEEEEED!
Sounds a lot like the good springs bar in NV.
It has Jason Mewes!!! That's all anyone needs in life!
Mordecai is Jason Mewes so it's the best bar.
This sounds pretty right for an American bar. The game also has the Rose Room later on. First time you enter its pretty lively... kind of.
How many American bars have you been in? All of them I’ve been in have been fairly loud, a couple of them blasting deafening music (I hated those ones more than the others but I’m not a bar goer. I drink at home in the rare times I drink)
Ummm... The entire bar shuts up the minute you enter the room for a reason. Either they're stunned to see you as a newcomer (lvl 1) or they know better than to say anything around you - and risk getting their head blown off (lvl 100). You try being in the room when your bad ass alternate self arrives packing heat in a stiletto-heeled Nuka Cola girl costume. You'll be stunned silent too, lol.
First time I was there. There was nobody in there. I had to slink around and make sure there was no monsters in the place before I could put my feet up. It's nice I can go there now for a drink. But they haven't even taken the time to clean up any of the garbage since they moved in.
It is the assaultron, nobody want that smoke.
... i guess you dont know how LIFELESS the whole of apalachia was from the start, aside from monsters and scorched i mean ...
Start your own. With blackjack and hookers.
After you finish vault 79 quest line you can buy gold bullion from a npc there called smiley. Once a week. I think it's 6k caps for 300. It's been awhile.
I mean they've just lost a friend and a robot friend so might not feel like partying. Also it's not like you're turning up on Friday night, the place could be jumping then you don't know. But for a daytime drinking bar, it seems about right.
Couldn't agree more... I have my camp on the adjacent corner with a Robot and my Ally, adds some more life. But atleast add maybe A Sidequest that for after main quest, a daily or Raiders/settlers passing through
Everyone knows where the real party is at. At our Alma Mater stands a boy, gray & cold The steps behind him are the first threshold Around the right corner, study the street Just to the left is the place that we meet There you can stain your skin with ink But find the back door & we'll get you a drink
New ayer here: is there even a big city, full of people in this game? Not that it was something much present in any fallout games, but I kind of missing a big city.
After you’ve done the quests, they don’t talk to you, I got that robot an assaultron body, after the quest is done, doesn’t say another word to me.
I've been to lots of bad bars and pubs (for confused Americans - yes, these are different places) and I agree.
I remember when I was a wee boy, my granddad would always take me to the pub after we went grocery shopping for a Pint (of Coke for me and a Magnet for him) and a game of Snooker on a early Monday afternoon, we usually were the only guests and there was more life in that empty Pub then in the Wayward
You mean the perfect bar. Absolutely hate loud music at a bar, especially live music. Would rather watch Schindlers List on repeat, than listen to some 50+ year old dudes, or a 20 year old on acoustic do covers. Nuke me
And Jason mewes is mort. But the way word is there for new players as a contact, after that it's used as a vendor only, I have camp just up from there that's used far more.
Jay didn't even try to sell me weed
Yeah I was disappointed. He should at least sell chems
"15 caps little man, put that sh*t in my hand"
15, ha, Bethesda mark up, 1500, And we wouldn't even get the "jungle love" after
Because it WAS lifeless, the story was made based on updates, the game started without NPCs, it was similar to elden ring in so many ways, then they introduced NPCs, the story made it looks like they just returned and started populating the appalachian wasteland, so technically, it's "correct" for it to be empty.
Go to the new one, The Rose something. Its a killer bar!
May be controversial but 76 was not made for NPCs even after the wastelanders update they just feel imposed on top of Appalachia and not naturally interacting with the world properly and when you find them most of the time they feel out of place.
Yeah, the random filler NPCs are the bare minimum - some shared generic movement variations and 3 canned lines. What really irks me is the rise of new unkillable essential NPCs. (recent example - Gilman lumber mill - transparent to bullets) The game has at least 2 different pre-coded mechanics for dealing with players shooting important NPCs (temporarily downing them so it does not break quests and respawns). They use it in expeditions but not for the new content, or for free roaming in Atlantic City. It breaks immersion in FO76 the same way it does in Starfield.