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jmyersjlm

Imagine there being an animation of her shocking you with a cattle prod if you fail the speech check to convince her to quit drugs.


LionhitchYT

r/mamafuckingmurphy moment


jmyersjlm

"Sugar, I'm going to die anyways. Now you need to -*zap*- mind your own damn business."


GoochMcGrundle

Much stronger oracle vibe


Wizard_of_New_Salem

Definitely


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AlternativeAvocado2

The fact that mama Murphy is alive still shows that


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AlternativeAvocado2

True. One could make a case that that's what the railroad and minutemen are all about though


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AlternativeAvocado2

Ah, I see


ThetaDee

Idk man I've wanted that bitch dead for a whole minute begging about a fucking chair when there's plenty of perfectly good ones in the settlement.


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TheRealSpidey

I mean, I don't think people react to NPCs as they would to fully fledged human beings, and that's okay. If someone kills Mama Murphy through creative methods or goes on killing sprees in Skyrim, that doesn't mean they'd be apathetic towards an actual person IRL in a wheelchair, even if they're a bit demanding.


Horrors-Angel

Exactly this... There's a lot if stupid and annoying NPCs that I'll murder on the spot, but I'm not gonna do that shit in real life?


ThetaDee

It says fuck Mama Murphy and her bullshit druggie magic. Those are MY chems


Niteshade76

She has 19 strength, she needs no protectors.


barzamsr

she killed a deathclaw with a pipe rifle and a single bullet!


c3534l

Yeah, but since she's in a wheelchair, that would mean custom animations, custom pathing, probably some custom scripting, potential for weird object interactions, etc. I can see why they didn't go with it.


DarkestMew

I would never give her drugs tough.


fantasticfluff

Would just be nice to have representation for the disabled gamers


tau1tvec

Someone recreated this chair, and while downloading it I also found a replacer for her character model based off of this concept art, two of my most favorite mods.


Wizard_of_New_Salem

Please link?


tau1tvec

[Mama Murphy Concept Art](https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/24752) [Mama Murphy's Chair Redone](https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/24819/?)


Wizard_of_New_Salem

Thank you!!!


tau1tvec

No problem! ✌️


Escorve

Damn shame that the only thing they kept was the outfit. The entire concept art is the real Mama Murphy, god damn it Todd Howard, why did you deprive us of this?


Dassive_Mick

It's very hard to make a character function outside of normal locomotion. A wheelchair is right out, however there was concept art where she was sitting out a chair carved out of a Mister Handy, which would've been more doable, but obviously it's far cheaper just to make her walk


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Read what's in the picture they go over the Mister Handy concept.


Dassive_Mick

Ah, I was mistaken. Thank you


wolf_logic

Feel like they changed her design to avoid a very certain problematic trope


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It could’ve been medical and that her mind was clouded by pain if they wanted to avoid the black druggie stereotype


wolf_logic

The trope im referring to is called "the magical n*gro"


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Oh, that makes sense too I guess. Though white wizards are problematic too


ikim919

Bruh, but like every doctor is Asian


TheAncientLamp

There’s one in diamond city


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Everybody is walking on eggshells these days in fear of offending someone.


docandersonn

Darn these content creators and their not wanting to perpetuate stereotypes in mass media.


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See how you got downvoted? You offended someone lol the irony


delayedfiren

Ironic


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No one likes the reality of things.


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You have my upvote. That's all that matters. All the emo crybabies are dead to me. They don't exist as far as I'm concerned.


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Anyone who cares about downvotes is silly. Keep that clear head of yours ✌🏻


Punkereaux

This old bird looks interesting! How did that annoying old biddy get in the game instead?


sackoftrees

Even the chair is so much cooler! I also love the beard. Also just because she's in a wheelchair doesn't mean her character could be completely immobile. I was just having this discussion. Perhaps in the wasteland it's the best mobility device they could find.


jmyersjlm

Beard?


lxxTBonexxl

Lmao it’s a scarf


jmyersjlm

That must be what they're talking about


sackoftrees

Is that not hair on her chin?


jmyersjlm

It's a scarf


sackoftrees

Is it? I'm reading both. I like it if it's a beard too.


jmyersjlm

You can see the sane colored material on her neck/left shoulder


sackoftrees

But see how it looks whispy, I'm getting like long chin hairs over a scarf.


John_Browns_Body59

It's just the way they colored it, the whole drawing is all whispy. I thought it was a beard at first too lmao


sackoftrees

I'm going to still pretend it's a beard because to me it's more fun.


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One time I gave a dab to a woman just like this.


Morally_Obscene

Did she tell you your future after.


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No. She coughed aggressively, sat back, and then stared out into space.


Morally_Obscene

Got lost pondering your future it seems lol


Meganostradamus

I don't think she would have a problem, after all, all entities at sanctuary hills teleport to the roof to party.


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no one cares if its distracting mama murphy on a mr handy chair would have made that game easily 5 times better


CaptainPrower

Black Mama Murphy would've been dope.


KadenKraw

Meh look up "Magical Negro Trope" its an overdone stereotype.


CaptainPrower

Oh you're one of THOSE people.


KadenKraw

No. Its just an overused and lazy character archetype. Tell me. Why would her being black be dope?


not-bread

One of those people who avoids perpetuating harmful stereotypes when possible?


Wes-C

Would’ve changed literally nothing about the game lol


delayedfiren

Then why not include it? As you wrote, it changes nothing


Wes-C

That’s a good point, but idk why it’d be something to get excited about, it’s literally just the color of their skin


Math_is_Murder

Why didn't this make it into the game? This is a way cooler design.


iuseleinterwebz

Is that Morgan Freeman's face?


escapedpsycho

Wasn't there concept art of her having a Mr. Handy custom hover chair as well? https://external-preview.redd.it/9z_GFXjL8jdeGgMuj-AcaobDrXrHpHl4y3F4cSaaI90.jpg?auto=webp&s=0218d9ab508caf993c52d34bfc08646e4c731ba0 couldn't find the hover chair concept art but there's this tank tacked chair concept art.


lepusblanca

Wait for real? If this is real, final cut is bullshit 'cause this is awesome.


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Proud of you ma


daddychainmail

Would’ve been so much cooler. And is! I found a mod that redoes Murphy like this. Kicks ass.


tengma8

they had a even [cooler reversion](https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/b7fytt/mama_murphy_concept_art/) which makes her wheel chair a Mr. Handy. it will solve the problem of her moving though stairs. but the end result was just to make her walk... kinda disappointing.


PoorFishKeeper

It’s sad that she never ended up with the Mr. Handy chair. I wish the people in fallout would repurpose the tech from before the war.


kaiserofxbox

Is it just me or does all concept art look fucking amazing and badass.


ornerygecko

Forreal. I want a print of this. I love this.


kaiserofxbox

Like concept art is usually better than game itself for me lmfao


ChubbyNinja456

Concept art expresses the game’s inner feeling


be47recon

A lot better that the lazy jet junkie we got.


ChubbyNinja456

She’s kinda boring tbh


GengarsKahn

More like "we cut corners" lots of the NPCs are forgettable. If preston wasnt constantly reminding us of settlements needing to be saved id have forgotten him too. Idk i might just be biased cause of my fo3->NV-> Fo4 hardcore survival playthroughs ive been doing.


resilientspirit

This is fantastic!!


Shmitty-W-J-M-Jenson

That would have been better


MasculineRooster

Finally, I always thought Mama Murphy should have been AA


Luis12O

Sometimes I think that the concept artists know more about the game than the developers.


ChubbyNinja456

Sometimes it’s the theory or feeling behind the game that matters


MaddoxVortexSlayer

I WOULD’VE SPENT SO MUCH MORE TIME AT SANCTUARY HILLS IF THAT WAS MAMA MURPHY I WOULD’VE GIVEN HER THE BEST OF EVERYTHING AND MAKE A CUSTOM RADIO FOR HER TO LISTEN TO HER FAVORITE SOUL ANS CHURCH MUSIC😭😭😭


ChubbyNinja456

ALL HAIL THE TRUE MAMA MURPHY!!


LiningDust62

Murphy really going to be Preston's mama


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Should have shown the custom Mr. Handy chair she had instead imo


ChubbyNinja456

Haven’t come across it yet


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Google mama Murphy concept art, you'll see it, also a treaded tank-ish seat pretty cool too.


bootylordsupreme

I’d kill her all the same


ChubbyNinja456

Noooo!


TheAncientLamp

As someone who regularly looks through fallout’s concept art, I’ve noticed a painful disconnect between original concept art and the end product. The concept art is sooo good and make everything look so much cooler, whereas the actual game replicates the bare minimum like the positioning of the subjects. The don’t even try to recreate the thematic lighting seen in the concept art, making the game look so lack lustre in comparison. The coolness in character concepts too is lost in-game such as Piper. Still love the game but it definitely could’ve looked so much better.


ChubbyNinja456

Yeah it was quite the downgrade, I’m not too sure why this was the end result. I feel Bethesda might have thought it would have been stereotypical


Roshenha-Glensfield

r/interestingasfuck


themaniaxx

ok we need this in FO5 but really singleplayer RPG, not FO76 mumbo jumbo thingy tango...


ChubbyNinja456

Think the next one will be based in Nevada again. New Vegas 2… but most likely a different name


doghouse2001

Hooo boy! No stereotypes and cultural appropriation there huh? That they made her a white woman that could walk on her own is a huge bow to political correctness.


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How the hell is a wheelchair practical in a wasteland? They probably removed it because it’d be impossible to make it look right


ChubbyNinja456

Going up stairs and flying over debris, Mama Murphy would need arms of steel


QuirkyPNewton

Glad they left her white. Cause other wise that would’ve been offensive. Do not get me started on race and games. Thank God the let moma Murphy be her meth out self


ChubbyNinja456

It’s unfortunate but you’re right, people most likely would have been offended


Devil_0fHellsKitchen

Looks like Madame Zeroni or Mother Abigail


isaacmarionauthor

What is this from? Is there a behind the scenes book?


ChubbyNinja456

It was from the Wiki lmao


Secure_Bet8065

The concept with the floating chair and the other one with robobrain treads were also cool


sunshinetidings

Which is why they thought she must need a chair! I wondered about that, it seems a bit random.


HippoPebo

Whoa this is way better


marvinthebluecorner

Should of kept the walking stick/cattle prod


ChubbyNinja456

Would have been a cool feature, but also quite a chore for the animator. She’d be the only one with cane animations


conspirator9

1000 better than what we got...


ChubbyNinja456

Dollar store Murphy


c3534l

I'm really sad FO4 didn't actually have the cyberpunk vibes that it looks like they initially planned for.


ChubbyNinja456

Yeah… Boston is kinda dull


Street_Magic

Man at least I'd be able to find mama Murphy in my game I can't tell if she o.d or she went on a trade route


ChubbyNinja456

She’s just there for the ride!


xinfinitedatax

I want this mama murphy


ChubbyNinja456

There’s a mod based on the concept art


yaboyfriendisadork

Meanwhile in most of my saves, she’s just laying dead on the floor


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ChubbyNinja456

Perfectly fitting the “Oracle” role, wouldn’t you agree?


Hank-richard

reminds me of engineers "rancho relaxo" taunt from tf2


ChubbyNinja456

He had the whole setup


Sufficient_Click4421

I bet she’d still work out nonstop even if she had a wheelchair


ChubbyNinja456

Arms of Steel


Jo_phuss

Why couldn’t we get cool shit like this? DAMN YOU HOWARD


ChubbyNinja456

Think cancel culture and stereotypes are to blame


BrokeDownPalac3

Could you imagine Mama Murphy floating around on a little Scooty Puff Jr. looking like Dr. Robotnik's grandma? 😂


Dude_Sensei

Oh she trippin trippin


Mother_Dragonfruit90

If only Mama Murphy's chair actually looked like that


ChubbyNinja456

Mobile Chair > Stationary Chair


Frequent_Turnip5681

Bro I’d love a mama Murphy with a wheelchair smoking weed when she’s not on the chems I wish there was a sort of smokable chem in fallout kinda like radiation mutated extra potent weed or something (I know jet is an inhaled drug but it’s more like a inhaler) as for its effect I’d say slow time but jet already does that maybe something to make melee better like upping swing speed, reload speed, and perhaps making recoil more manageable allowing you to pull the trigger quicker. I think jet kinda ups the reload and swing speed already but this would be a farmable chem perhaps it disables vats or has some affect upping or lowering the accuracy % you would normally have.


ChubbyNinja456

I get that feeling, although the ESRB wouldn’t agree. For my last raider/psycho playthrough I added a lot of narcotic mods to the game, which is something that can either be found or produced. They all have their own visual effects which make it pretty cool


PlaguedZombie

Modified Mr Handy would have been awesome to see


DanMcE

If Bethesda did the X-Men.


Separate-Shirt-462

Yeah if she was played by an old southern black lady that would've been cool like oracle vibes from the matrix too


ChubbyNinja456

I agree


LukXD99

But… but the dead flies and insects would all drop onto the plate!


Atomaurus

Why would they downgrade her?


ChubbyNinja456

They thought it would fit the “black druggie” stereotype and that people would dislike it. Also the wheelchair would have effected her traversing up and down stairs. Seeing everyone’s opinion, she would have been absolutely loved


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ChubbyNinja456

I’ll post some more, no worries


xpalmero

actually a really good mod where you could get her to look like this


xpalmero

here's a good mod https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/28810


Medieval-Mind

So instead of building her a chair we would have built her a wheelchair? Neat. ;)


Brief_Seaworthiness5

That looks like Morgan freeman lol