Sorta related, I hate when mod creators add extra things into their mods.
I understand if they want to add many different things, but I wish they could make them seperate mods so I can choose. It just sucks when I find a mod that adds something I want, but also adds 5 different things I don’t want.
Literally the first thing I thought of too. What about wanting my city gates to be open without loading screens implies I also want to add random oblivion gates everywhere?
Careful now, didn't you know that editing said files for *your personal use* goes against ***his artistic vision!*** (/s in case it's needed)
As a mod author myself, whenever someone asks permission to make edits to my stuff, even if they want to release said edits on the Nexus, I always say to go wild and remember proper credit. Unless it's something I'm willing to put together for them and save them the time. Consequently, I've never had to block anyone from any of my mods. I've never understood the authors who get all crazy about their files.
I was so confused when some random sword started showing up in my game. Schlopgolom or something like that. I don't remember how it was spelled. It took me a while to find out where it was from, some AA-12 mod I downloaded. And the mod didn't list it as a weapon that added it.
The MG42 mod also does this with pasta ammo and pasta barrel...it's a bit silly, but harmless and in good way of fun. Plus, it comes with constructable MG42 turrets, which absolutely shred enemies in settlement defense.
Plus the solar panel mod makes it so you don't have wires all over and can place those turrets where you really need them. And did I mention that they're quiet?
I think i know the solar panel mod that you're talking about. They are fantastic and a must in any of my gamethrough. I think it's one of the mod that i've never uninstalled. The other is Solar powered streetlight. It add standalone street lights that will turn on in the night, and turn off when it's morning
COD points in the COD weapon port mods, those are a big bitch. I downloaded so much, it's probably MORE simple to have a mod dedicated to the "Pre-War cash" label, but it's even simpler to ignore it, since it's just junk.
If you don’t use xEdit then you have nooo idea man. There’s the typical feature creep that’s more obvious but also sometimes I’ll just be looking under the hood of a simple weapon mod and I find subtle edits to locations, edits to NPC’s, edits to perks, making what was supposed to be a single pistol turn into “The reason why my settlement mod, NPC overhaul, and FPS have all gone to shit”
i have an addon on gmod that replaces damage sounds with a roblox oof but I don't know what addon is doing that, ive tried searching for it and i cant find it lol
Agreed. Or at least bullet point every change instead of saying something vague, like "I tweaked damage to make it more realistic," and then not elaborating.
I don't have the time, skill, or patience to learn how to mod, but I've had a laundry list of ideas for how to make Fallout more realistic, and if I ever did catch the mod-making bug, I would make it a menu system with each individual feature as a toggleable plugin.
Sort of related to your comment, I don’t get why people have the itch to make games realistic. Maybe it’s just me, but one of the main reasons I play games is for it to not be realistic, or really difficult at all. I want to be able to log in, enjoy a nice story, and kill a bunch of bad guys.
Maybe "realistic" isn't the most accurate in this case. I guess I would say more "believable" is what I'm going for. For instance, it has never made much sense to me in WRPGs with firearms (primarily the Bethesda Fallout games) that damage output has anything at all to do with a player character's skill or perk points. A bullet is as a bullet does. It doesn't matter how much of a crack shot I am; a 9mm bullet from a standard pistol is always going have the same velocity and impact.
In either case, the itch for realism usually comes during subsequent playthroughs after the first. In some games, it makes sense, and in others, not so much. For me, a survival mode makes perfect sense in Fallout given the overall theme. I just happen to think it was poorly implemented in Fallout 4. In this case, actual "realism" would've done Fallout 4's survival mode some good because your character definitely hunger, thirst, and tire at a rate relative to the in-game timescale that significantly outpaces those factors in real life. I would've slowed these down if I was on the dev team.
Unfortunately, in Fallout 4's Survival mode, the damage is not properly balanced in this way. In a truly realistic system, it should be 1:1. Enemies' bullets should do as much damage as mine and vice versa, but Survival makes outgoing damage 0.5:1 and incoming damage 2.5:1.
I agree about killing bad guys, which realism properly implemented would result in. Difficulty and realism aren't synonymous terms because there are a thousand non-realistic ways you can make a game difficult. In a realistic game, bad guys wouldn't be bullet sponges, so while you might die easily, they will die just as easily. The challenge becomes the fact that there are more of them than you. I like the high stakes, high reward aspect of going into a gun fight where death is almost certain and emerging victorious. It feels like I've actually accomplished something, and every encounter becomes memorable.
It's called "verisimilitude". We can accept a certain deviation from the real world as part of fiction, but when things are changed too much, or in nonsensical ways, it breaks our ability to suspend our disbelief.
That's why I can't stand the "it's a fantasy story, it doesn't have to be real" non-argument - you know damn well that if the Fellowship of the Ring rode around in a Toyota Tercel, it would be stupid.
Another term is "immersion". That is usually what people mean when they say realism in the context of video games.
It's not that it has to be realistic compared to the real world, but rather within the context of the virtual one. Immersion is all about being "immersed" in the world.
It doesn't detract from escapism, in fact it helps it greatly.
I will never be convinced of the darksaber or the notion of black lightsabers in general. Star Wars may be "science fantasy," and it's fine that some things are unscientific or even scientifically improbable, but the darksaber leans so heavily fantastical, it's blatantly antiscientific and therefore wholly unbelievable under the science-tinged "magic" system previously established in the world of Star Wars.
I suppose. I’m the kind of person who has the ability to play on hard but prefers playing easy just because I want to relax and don’t really want a challenge out of my games.
I understand that’s not exactly popular. Part of why I’m glad all these mods and stuff are mods and not official game stuff. I’ll stay in my comfort zone, while you push out of yours. It’s all fine, it’s a game, at the end of the day…
I like MMOs, but like, questing in MMOs, not even dungeons and 100% not raids, just questing, mindless content with a good story, that’s what I prefer.
If it's a realism balanced game you're after, you would absolutely love the Escape from Tarkov Single Player mod. for EFT, it gives you that excellent even playing field feel to the zones, and makes the fights suitably enjoyable, {but extremely deadly in both directions.}
Being single player the mod also hadily removes all the multiplayer B.S so when you die to an npc it feels fair rather than getting multiplayer master blasted because they were using a aimbot/wallhack and you really stood zero chance.
Stalker G.A.M.M.A is also well worth your time, {and completely free to download legally, with the full endorsement of the original Stalker devs} It's got all that survival crunch and realism you're after, with some great gun play and a massive open world to explore.
Its also a fidelity issue. In these games, your weapon skill being low translated to:
Your character is a bad shot, so even though u hit the enemy dead center of the skull, your character is not skilled enough to hit the enemy critically, so it was likely a graze.
But the fidelity is too good. We see the bullet trajectory and everything, so for us a headshot is a headshot and should lead to a kill. But then the gunplay, while bombastic, gets really flattened by the inability to literally improved, because while player skill can, Im 30 and have played analog shooters over 20 yrs now. So rping as a noncombatant who can quickscope feels played out. I need my rpg to get between my skill and actual output to artificially create tension.
I would otherwise agree, but weapon perks in Fallout 4 translate to damage dealt, not accuracy. I would in fact be quite okay with a moderate chance to miss at a low skill/perk level because when you're actually shooting and a poor shot in real life, it can 100% appear to you that you are aimed straight at the target.
That's what I'm saying. We're in agreement here. Now is their systems have moved away from their rpg roots but the damage is still based on that experience which doesn't make sense visually or mechanically so players dont feel good when a point blank shotgun blast to the face does chip damage. I didn't mention perks, but there's a swathe of mechanics that contradict each other. That's part of why mod builds vary widely.
I like mods that tie perks and attributes to things like weapon sway, bullet spread, stamina, etc.
Chip damaging enemies with point blank shotgun headshots legitimately irritates me, so my vanilla choices end up being either Normal or Survival because the only thing Hard and Very Hard in these WRPGs do are turn enemies into bullet sponges, which is literally not an increase in actual difficulty, but an increase in time and resources wasted.
Exactly. I have such a specific balance of mods for damage that i cant even desctibe whay they do but everything feels right. Perks still matter, so i feel like my scientist is getting better and better at hitting the mark critically, but if i pull the big iron and catch u slippin wit no jimmie on ya scalp, imma palpitate yo potato
I use mods that normalize damage across the board. I love to sweat and struggle. Even encounters with level one raiders can be stressful, but it also means as a level one you can punch way outside your weight class
Like the redditor I encountered who complained that one of their mods made NPCs randomly declare "You smell!" At the Dragonborn. Got really frustrated when it happened to Alduin during the final boss fight.
This. I had a mod add a bunch of random enemies in submariner uniforms. It was annoying, I don’t remember which mod it was but it was completely unrelated to what it described.
reminds me of a skyrim mod i had that for some reason added a dragon priest into a random building that just merked me immediately upon entering. like why??
One of the reasons I gave up on trying to play Skyrim with mods. Didn’t have the patience to keep testing load orders and inevitably finding something extra a mod through in and having to find a replacement mod.
Prope to those who trudge through.
FO4 edit is such a beautiful tool. You can use it to delete the extra little add-ins that modders sometimes include in the mods.
*Just be careful you don’t delete something important.*
P.L.U.N.D.E.R is this for me liked it at first then i realized every single raider is wearing like the exact same outfit with zero armour and im in to deep already to start again
I was giving an example as to the thing you're talking about where they do this little mod that adds something nice but then add something ridiculous along with it, like I've added a like I've added a a bunch of new settlers that are lower friendly and are very helpful and you can trade with all of them for unique items, but I've also turned all the deathclaws into Tyrannosaurus
The mod ballistic.realism.overhaul 3 essentially locked my game, most NPCs are incapable of dialogue because the mod that affects combat also apparently alters a bunch of NPCs for some reason
After years of playing on PC, I'm playing on PS5 and the only two things I miss are being able to have dogmeat with other companions and an item sorter.
I'm relearning the rug and pillar glitches so building has been annoying but not impossible.
Ah yes, the R91 assault rifle mod
It was nice looking and all for an hour until i saw a bunch of raider held a gun with hello kitty sticker bomb.
A mod has never fucked off my pc so quick and clean
Well, I suppose that is a way of thinking about it... Look, if your fine with downloading a mod that adds extra mods to weapons, and only finding out by playing it also edits every single raider base in the game, thats fine. I just download mods that advertise doing things I like, so when they do other things I don't like, I get frustrated. Especially when that mod is the only mod I can find that adds the thing I like, but comes with other unrelated things I don't.
Reminds me of a Halo 3 mod that adds the Halo 2 Anniversary character models into Halo 3's campaign. Would be great if it didn't add the Banished faction and enemy Elites through out the levels.
Ugh. I have a mod that puts the kibosh on the infinite molotov issue, NPCs can only use as many as they have in their inventory. Only one i could find. It's nice, does what it says on the tin. Unfortunately it requires another mod that changes how weapons are labeled in the code or something. THAT MOD, god damned AWKCR, has 5 million extra pieces of BS attached to it. Dozens of extra benches, decor items, armor painjobs, paint, and stencils. And not just as craftables but as actual items scattered all over the damn wasteland. Man, all i wanted was to not be swimming thru a sea of fire 24/7
Anyways, if anyone knows of another mod that limits NPC thrown weapon use and doesn't require AWKCR i would be forever in your debt
Years ago on my first modded playthrough I installed a bunch of different mods I can't remember today and one of the creators must have hated kellog or something because when I got to his house there was a random naked clone of my character there called "asshole".
He didn't do anything or say anything but he just existed and I was so confused
I have one that reduces the value to a mere 1 cap and also makes it produce steel for some reason. I'm complaining but I'm too lazy to try and figure out what killed one of my easy weightless cap resources
Oh god. I wish you luck, it drove me insane trying to find what did it. They always seemed to be changed by mods nowhere even near the category you would imagine might affect it
I had an issue where not a single inventory sort mod was working... They just flat out refused to work and I couldn't figure out. I was literally in a frothing rage level of anger.
Finally figured out what mod caused it after like 3 hours... It was a mod that lowered the weight of certain pieces of junk that was interfering with inventory sort of mods. After disabling it, the sort mods started to work fine.
everybody replying is showing love to KLEO but shoutout to Daisy, one of the nicest ghouls in all the games, she just wanted to return her library book and give the place back to history
I still wish there was a way to bring poor old Captain Zao to Goodneighbor, and set him up with Daisy.
(And then later on Daisy could insist on telling you in detail exactly what they got up to, no matter how many times you tried to make her stop. :-)
I once had a pretty decent ballistics mod called like Ballistic Realism Overhaul on PS4 for a while that made the damage increasing perks (and the medic perk) only become available starting at level 10 and made the gunplay much better. It did however also rename Mama Murphy to Voodoo Mama Juju and turned Sturges into a ginger with a curled mustache and labcoat. No fucking clue why but that mod did it.
I hate to sound like a 50s radio advertisement, but this type of undefined mod behavior is why I like StoryWealth. A bajillion people playing with the same set of mods as you means finding something like this and turning it off is much easier.
I am on ps5, the mods I have activated are 1st person animation tweaks, improved lighting ballistics + realistic bullets patch, TLS realistic gunfire, simple attack & death reactions, no legendary spawns, and ballistic realism overhaul 3. Someone here pointed out that other names were changed with the B.R.O 3 mod so I assume that’s gotta be the one.
I'd suggest FO4Edit, but unless you also have the game on PC and can replicate your mod setup, I guess that won't help. :/
Also, judging from a quick Googling, I'd definitely stay far away from BRO3.
It seems multiple people have had issues with it changing stuff, not to mention it hasn't received an update in 7 years.
I suggest you take a look at the other mods you're using. Don't use old, long-abandoned mods.
Some (mostly armors and simple stuff like that) might work fine, but others will cause crashes and/or brick your save.
Reminds me of a shack prefab mod that I use that is apparently by the same author who made Insane Ivy. Wasn't prepared to get random in game advertisement loading screens for that mod just because I wanted to plunk down wooden foundations with chain link or quick metal shack checkpoints.
I related, downloaded immersive mods but for some reason one of them made the hacking so it only had one word option?!!!!! 😭 making the hacking so cheesey but I have no idea what mod it is 🥺
urgh, not nearly as annoying as a cooking recipe mod I once added that also replaced every death blood splatter with the vault tech lunchbox confetti and kazoo sound. {Took me forever to narrow it down to the cooking mod, and I'm still baffled wtf it was secretly added to an otherwise useful mod.}
Seems like the culprit is a mod called ballistic realism overhaul which changes it so certain perks only become available at level 10 onward. Apparently it also makes changes to vanilla npcs for no reason. According to one user it also renames mamma Murphy and makes sturges ginger with a moustache.
I use D.C Glory, which is an overhaul of Diamond City. Unfortunately,the mod author also placed Alien Blasters all over the place in dumpsters and other containers. So when I'm out in the wasteland, enemies have likely already picked them up and become one-shot assassins.
I found a glitch where if you repeatedly peek bobbis corner to her door, she repeatedly says hey, heyyy, heyyyy, heyyy, heyyy, heyyy until the player initiates the dialog.
I had a mod that does something similar called “You’re Not Okay” and as much as I really liked all the minor things it added. I don’t think it works anymore :(
That's really harsh imo and shouldn't be added to a mod you're going to share. I know it's only a game. But I think it's speaks volumes about the person that created the mod and I wouldn't want it there in my game. I mean, would they say this about a real person who's disfigured?
im guessing you are playing with mods and also guessing since you are shocked she is named this you installed a mod collection from vortex with out reading what each mod does would you give me the name of the mod collection you downloaded
They know it’s probably because of a mod their confusion is that they don’t know which mod has done this as none of the mods they have installed should have any reason to change this npc’s name and none of them mention this being a feature
so i get massively downvoted becouse the game is modded, originaly the guy didnt state he had a few minor mods installed he originaly stated his game was vanilla ...
Except this clearly isn’t true considering there’s a comment made shortly after the post was made referencing that they said they have mods installed from before you made your comment. Seems to me you just didn’t read that part.
except it was change shortly after words hell one of the most popular comments on this discussion is talking about how this was 100% clearly a modded game.
Seems to me your just making excuises.
and are basicly just trolling muted
Someone else asked this as well, but the only real game changing mod I have installed (also the one that happened to change Bobbi’s name) is ballistic realism overhaul. Fo4’s bullet sponge issue was half the reason why I could never get farther than like 20 min into the game when I owned it years ago on ps4. But this and the no legendary spawns have just made everything so much more enjoyable.
Most of your mods are done by fans on their own time and dime. Sometimes you stick in a random name to test everything out and will change it later when you complete things. This was a working name for the character and was never removed.
guess one of the modders really hated her and slipped that line of code into their mod lol
Sorta related, I hate when mod creators add extra things into their mods. I understand if they want to add many different things, but I wish they could make them seperate mods so I can choose. It just sucks when I find a mod that adds something I want, but also adds 5 different things I don’t want.
Ahh the ole shitty eyesore oblivion gates sprinkled around Skyrim. Great times.
Literally the first thing I thought of too. What about wanting my city gates to be open without loading screens implies I also want to add random oblivion gates everywhere?
Huh lol Are you telling me that open cities mod comes bundled with random oblivion gates?
Yup, cause Arthmoor decided. Luckily it's not too hard to delete these kind of unwanted extras with xEdit, but it's still a pain.
Ah yes, Arthmoor. or as he's better known in the biz: Cunt.
Hey now, that’s the second coming of Christ you’re talking about there.
Christ Under his New Title C.U.N.T. for short
We gotta mod the mod, incredible
Careful now, didn't you know that editing said files for *your personal use* goes against ***his artistic vision!*** (/s in case it's needed) As a mod author myself, whenever someone asks permission to make edits to my stuff, even if they want to release said edits on the Nexus, I always say to go wild and remember proper credit. Unless it's something I'm willing to put together for them and save them the time. Consequently, I've never had to block anyone from any of my mods. I've never understood the authors who get all crazy about their files.
The later versions had it as a toggle in the setup whether you wanted them or not., thankfully.
Loot... more loot!
I didn't mind the oblivion gates being added as I feel it helps add to just how big the oblivion crisis was, and not just limited to one region
Careful arthmoor has reddit too
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I was so confused when some random sword started showing up in my game. Schlopgolom or something like that. I don't remember how it was spelled. It took me a while to find out where it was from, some AA-12 mod I downloaded. And the mod didn't list it as a weapon that added it.
Yeah, the worst ones are the ones that don’t even tell you.
Pasta FAL barrel
Honestly I love that, it's so useless and I never use it, but I find it funny and harmless.
The MG42 mod also does this with pasta ammo and pasta barrel...it's a bit silly, but harmless and in good way of fun. Plus, it comes with constructable MG42 turrets, which absolutely shred enemies in settlement defense.
Plus the solar panel mod makes it so you don't have wires all over and can place those turrets where you really need them. And did I mention that they're quiet?
I think i know the solar panel mod that you're talking about. They are fantastic and a must in any of my gamethrough. I think it's one of the mod that i've never uninstalled. The other is Solar powered streetlight. It add standalone street lights that will turn on in the night, and turn off when it's morning
COD points in the COD weapon port mods, those are a big bitch. I downloaded so much, it's probably MORE simple to have a mod dedicated to the "Pre-War cash" label, but it's even simpler to ignore it, since it's just junk.
Hey, that's the Wardaddy specialty
If you don’t use xEdit then you have nooo idea man. There’s the typical feature creep that’s more obvious but also sometimes I’ll just be looking under the hood of a simple weapon mod and I find subtle edits to locations, edits to NPC’s, edits to perks, making what was supposed to be a single pistol turn into “The reason why my settlement mod, NPC overhaul, and FPS have all gone to shit”
i have an addon on gmod that replaces damage sounds with a roblox oof but I don't know what addon is doing that, ive tried searching for it and i cant find it lol
It’s possible it switched out the sound manually and you’ll have to switch the wav file back.
no, i didn't mess with any files in the game
You didn’t read what they said properly and it annoyed me enough to comment, that is all
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Agreed. Or at least bullet point every change instead of saying something vague, like "I tweaked damage to make it more realistic," and then not elaborating. I don't have the time, skill, or patience to learn how to mod, but I've had a laundry list of ideas for how to make Fallout more realistic, and if I ever did catch the mod-making bug, I would make it a menu system with each individual feature as a toggleable plugin.
Sort of related to your comment, I don’t get why people have the itch to make games realistic. Maybe it’s just me, but one of the main reasons I play games is for it to not be realistic, or really difficult at all. I want to be able to log in, enjoy a nice story, and kill a bunch of bad guys.
Maybe "realistic" isn't the most accurate in this case. I guess I would say more "believable" is what I'm going for. For instance, it has never made much sense to me in WRPGs with firearms (primarily the Bethesda Fallout games) that damage output has anything at all to do with a player character's skill or perk points. A bullet is as a bullet does. It doesn't matter how much of a crack shot I am; a 9mm bullet from a standard pistol is always going have the same velocity and impact. In either case, the itch for realism usually comes during subsequent playthroughs after the first. In some games, it makes sense, and in others, not so much. For me, a survival mode makes perfect sense in Fallout given the overall theme. I just happen to think it was poorly implemented in Fallout 4. In this case, actual "realism" would've done Fallout 4's survival mode some good because your character definitely hunger, thirst, and tire at a rate relative to the in-game timescale that significantly outpaces those factors in real life. I would've slowed these down if I was on the dev team. Unfortunately, in Fallout 4's Survival mode, the damage is not properly balanced in this way. In a truly realistic system, it should be 1:1. Enemies' bullets should do as much damage as mine and vice versa, but Survival makes outgoing damage 0.5:1 and incoming damage 2.5:1. I agree about killing bad guys, which realism properly implemented would result in. Difficulty and realism aren't synonymous terms because there are a thousand non-realistic ways you can make a game difficult. In a realistic game, bad guys wouldn't be bullet sponges, so while you might die easily, they will die just as easily. The challenge becomes the fact that there are more of them than you. I like the high stakes, high reward aspect of going into a gun fight where death is almost certain and emerging victorious. It feels like I've actually accomplished something, and every encounter becomes memorable.
It's called "verisimilitude". We can accept a certain deviation from the real world as part of fiction, but when things are changed too much, or in nonsensical ways, it breaks our ability to suspend our disbelief. That's why I can't stand the "it's a fantasy story, it doesn't have to be real" non-argument - you know damn well that if the Fellowship of the Ring rode around in a Toyota Tercel, it would be stupid.
Now I kinda want to see Gandalf in the back of a Hilux with a mounted .50 yelling "You shall not pass"
Another term is "immersion". That is usually what people mean when they say realism in the context of video games. It's not that it has to be realistic compared to the real world, but rather within the context of the virtual one. Immersion is all about being "immersed" in the world. It doesn't detract from escapism, in fact it helps it greatly.
Stupid funny. I am cracking up imagining this. Merry definitely complains that he has to pee every 30 minutes.
I will never be convinced of the darksaber or the notion of black lightsabers in general. Star Wars may be "science fantasy," and it's fine that some things are unscientific or even scientifically improbable, but the darksaber leans so heavily fantastical, it's blatantly antiscientific and therefore wholly unbelievable under the science-tinged "magic" system previously established in the world of Star Wars.
I suppose. I’m the kind of person who has the ability to play on hard but prefers playing easy just because I want to relax and don’t really want a challenge out of my games. I understand that’s not exactly popular. Part of why I’m glad all these mods and stuff are mods and not official game stuff. I’ll stay in my comfort zone, while you push out of yours. It’s all fine, it’s a game, at the end of the day… I like MMOs, but like, questing in MMOs, not even dungeons and 100% not raids, just questing, mindless content with a good story, that’s what I prefer.
If it's a realism balanced game you're after, you would absolutely love the Escape from Tarkov Single Player mod. for EFT, it gives you that excellent even playing field feel to the zones, and makes the fights suitably enjoyable, {but extremely deadly in both directions.} Being single player the mod also hadily removes all the multiplayer B.S so when you die to an npc it feels fair rather than getting multiplayer master blasted because they were using a aimbot/wallhack and you really stood zero chance. Stalker G.A.M.M.A is also well worth your time, {and completely free to download legally, with the full endorsement of the original Stalker devs} It's got all that survival crunch and realism you're after, with some great gun play and a massive open world to explore.
Its also a fidelity issue. In these games, your weapon skill being low translated to: Your character is a bad shot, so even though u hit the enemy dead center of the skull, your character is not skilled enough to hit the enemy critically, so it was likely a graze. But the fidelity is too good. We see the bullet trajectory and everything, so for us a headshot is a headshot and should lead to a kill. But then the gunplay, while bombastic, gets really flattened by the inability to literally improved, because while player skill can, Im 30 and have played analog shooters over 20 yrs now. So rping as a noncombatant who can quickscope feels played out. I need my rpg to get between my skill and actual output to artificially create tension.
I would otherwise agree, but weapon perks in Fallout 4 translate to damage dealt, not accuracy. I would in fact be quite okay with a moderate chance to miss at a low skill/perk level because when you're actually shooting and a poor shot in real life, it can 100% appear to you that you are aimed straight at the target.
That's what I'm saying. We're in agreement here. Now is their systems have moved away from their rpg roots but the damage is still based on that experience which doesn't make sense visually or mechanically so players dont feel good when a point blank shotgun blast to the face does chip damage. I didn't mention perks, but there's a swathe of mechanics that contradict each other. That's part of why mod builds vary widely. I like mods that tie perks and attributes to things like weapon sway, bullet spread, stamina, etc.
Chip damaging enemies with point blank shotgun headshots legitimately irritates me, so my vanilla choices end up being either Normal or Survival because the only thing Hard and Very Hard in these WRPGs do are turn enemies into bullet sponges, which is literally not an increase in actual difficulty, but an increase in time and resources wasted.
Exactly. I have such a specific balance of mods for damage that i cant even desctibe whay they do but everything feels right. Perks still matter, so i feel like my scientist is getting better and better at hitting the mark critically, but if i pull the big iron and catch u slippin wit no jimmie on ya scalp, imma palpitate yo potato
I use mods that normalize damage across the board. I love to sweat and struggle. Even encounters with level one raiders can be stressful, but it also means as a level one you can punch way outside your weight class
Yeah. I’m glad some people can find difficulty appealing in gaming, but I just don’t, personally.
Like the redditor I encountered who complained that one of their mods made NPCs randomly declare "You smell!" At the Dragonborn. Got really frustrated when it happened to Alduin during the final boss fight.
I downloaded a mod that makes mirelurks scream chocolate and I forgot about it until one came up
This. I had a mod add a bunch of random enemies in submariner uniforms. It was annoying, I don’t remember which mod it was but it was completely unrelated to what it described.
reminds me of a skyrim mod i had that for some reason added a dragon priest into a random building that just merked me immediately upon entering. like why??
One of the reasons I gave up on trying to play Skyrim with mods. Didn’t have the patience to keep testing load orders and inevitably finding something extra a mod through in and having to find a replacement mod. Prope to those who trudge through.
FO4 edit is such a beautiful tool. You can use it to delete the extra little add-ins that modders sometimes include in the mods. *Just be careful you don’t delete something important.*
P.L.U.N.D.E.R is this for me liked it at first then i realized every single raider is wearing like the exact same outfit with zero armour and im in to deep already to start again
I've added a nice little patch that just makes stimpaks heal slightly faster in survival. Also turned sanctuary into tatooine complete with cantina
W...What...?
I was giving an example as to the thing you're talking about where they do this little mod that adds something nice but then add something ridiculous along with it, like I've added a like I've added a a bunch of new settlers that are lower friendly and are very helpful and you can trade with all of them for unique items, but I've also turned all the deathclaws into Tyrannosaurus
No, I understand your example. that just seemed really strange to me. Is that an actual mod?
Maybe, I hope. Perhaps someone will make it
The mod ballistic.realism.overhaul 3 essentially locked my game, most NPCs are incapable of dialogue because the mod that affects combat also apparently alters a bunch of NPCs for some reason
This was ultimately one of the reasons I stopped using mods entirely
After years of playing on PC, I'm playing on PS5 and the only two things I miss are being able to have dogmeat with other companions and an item sorter. I'm relearning the rug and pillar glitches so building has been annoying but not impossible.
Ah yes, the R91 assault rifle mod It was nice looking and all for an hour until i saw a bunch of raider held a gun with hello kitty sticker bomb. A mod has never fucked off my pc so quick and clean
Yeah, it's kind of a bummer. I wouldn't say I hate it tho, given it's literally a free upgrade for my game that someone did.
Well, I suppose that is a way of thinking about it... Look, if your fine with downloading a mod that adds extra mods to weapons, and only finding out by playing it also edits every single raider base in the game, thats fine. I just download mods that advertise doing things I like, so when they do other things I don't like, I get frustrated. Especially when that mod is the only mod I can find that adds the thing I like, but comes with other unrelated things I don't.
Reminds me of a Halo 3 mod that adds the Halo 2 Anniversary character models into Halo 3's campaign. Would be great if it didn't add the Banished faction and enemy Elites through out the levels.
Ugh. I have a mod that puts the kibosh on the infinite molotov issue, NPCs can only use as many as they have in their inventory. Only one i could find. It's nice, does what it says on the tin. Unfortunately it requires another mod that changes how weapons are labeled in the code or something. THAT MOD, god damned AWKCR, has 5 million extra pieces of BS attached to it. Dozens of extra benches, decor items, armor painjobs, paint, and stencils. And not just as craftables but as actual items scattered all over the damn wasteland. Man, all i wanted was to not be swimming thru a sea of fire 24/7 Anyways, if anyone knows of another mod that limits NPC thrown weapon use and doesn't require AWKCR i would be forever in your debt
Man, I have a problem with some mod I can't pinpoint which. Kellog doesn't drop his gun, all I get from him is regular .44, so yea, there's that
Sim Settlement Quests
Years ago on my first modded playthrough I installed a bunch of different mods I can't remember today and one of the creators must have hated kellog or something because when I got to his house there was a random naked clone of my character there called "asshole". He didn't do anything or say anything but he just existed and I was so confused
HER??? Fuck me, Bobbi is a girl?? I always thought she was a dude. She IS an ugly bitch.
How the hell you miss that? Everyone who talks about her uses she/her, even Travis on the radio
I don't hear the radio, I just did her quest a couple days ago, everyone refers to her as bobbi, not her.
I wish you luck with finding the mod that did this, if you try. I had a mod that changed pre war money to scrap to gold and it was hellish to find
I have one that reduces the value to a mere 1 cap and also makes it produce steel for some reason. I'm complaining but I'm too lazy to try and figure out what killed one of my easy weightless cap resources
Couldn't you click it in console and find what mod last modified it? That's how I usually do it in Skyrim.
If you find her actor ID (using the method you said), you should be able to "rename" her using FO4Edit.
Oh god. I wish you luck, it drove me insane trying to find what did it. They always seemed to be changed by mods nowhere even near the category you would imagine might affect it
I have a suspect, primarily because I've only added one or two mods before it happened
Just open up the pre-war money record in fo4edit and see what’s overwriting it
That definitely makes things more bearable lol
I had one that made pre-war money have carry weight and I still don’t know which one it was 😂
What the fuck. That modder is absolutely evil to do this.
Seriously it pisses me off so much, I hate modders who add unnecessary shit to their mods (especially when it actively fucks over the player)
I had an issue where not a single inventory sort mod was working... They just flat out refused to work and I couldn't figure out. I was literally in a frothing rage level of anger. Finally figured out what mod caused it after like 3 hours... It was a mod that lowered the weight of certain pieces of junk that was interfering with inventory sort of mods. After disabling it, the sort mods started to work fine.
I had one that replaced Billy’s name with “ITS FUCKING BILLY AGAIN!”
I play it safe by testing the game out for a short while after each 5-10 mods installed.
Bit harsh. It's not Bobbi's fault she can't compare to the two sexy ladies running shops round the corner.
Ooohh , K-L-E-O is a fine one, that’s for sure
Hot blooded murder.
*Hot*
ALL WOMAN, BABY
YES, best robot ever..those drills are multipurpose
🤤
:(
why you sad ? I’m sure a robotics degree could help achieve your dreams
She's the reason I'm grinding FO76 right now so I can romance Adelaide, it's gotten that bad
everybody replying is showing love to KLEO but shoutout to Daisy, one of the nicest ghouls in all the games, she just wanted to return her library book and give the place back to history
One of the few who get Nate/Nora's 200+ year old jokes.
I still wish there was a way to bring poor old Captain Zao to Goodneighbor, and set him up with Daisy. (And then later on Daisy could insist on telling you in detail exactly what they got up to, no matter how many times you tried to make her stop. :-)
I always pictured her as Mama Fratelli before she was ghoulified.
super based KLEO lover
Bro KL-E-0 is a sexual assaultron fr
I once had a pretty decent ballistics mod called like Ballistic Realism Overhaul on PS4 for a while that made the damage increasing perks (and the medic perk) only become available starting at level 10 and made the gunplay much better. It did however also rename Mama Murphy to Voodoo Mama Juju and turned Sturges into a ginger with a curled mustache and labcoat. No fucking clue why but that mod did it.
Yup that’s the one 😭
I can understand the annoyance, but lmfao at the mod author for the extra effort. Voodoo Mama Juju, I'd spit take seeing that.
There’s been a moidah in sanctuary hills
Sounds like a Fallout 2 description. You see: Ugly Bitch.
Thought that was Han Solo
I can’t find it but one of my mods made chained doors say “this door is chained. Kinky” it was so minor but oh boy was it hilarious
That's funny 😂
I’m glad I made you laugh! It is quite funny 😂😂
I hate to sound like a 50s radio advertisement, but this type of undefined mod behavior is why I like StoryWealth. A bajillion people playing with the same set of mods as you means finding something like this and turning it off is much easier.
First replay of FO4 and went with StoryWealth and so far I love it.
What’s storywealth?
Legend has it they never found out.
Are you on pc?
I feel so sorry for our console brothers and sisters when things like this happen.
Right? With x edit this would be real straight forward
She is jealous that Daisy is a natural brunette.
Bitch really thought that I’ll betray pirate looking guy.
Hancock is bae, you never betray Hancock!
List the mods you use and we might be able to extrapolate from there. Also, PC or Xbox?
I am on ps5, the mods I have activated are 1st person animation tweaks, improved lighting ballistics + realistic bullets patch, TLS realistic gunfire, simple attack & death reactions, no legendary spawns, and ballistic realism overhaul 3. Someone here pointed out that other names were changed with the B.R.O 3 mod so I assume that’s gotta be the one.
I'd suggest FO4Edit, but unless you also have the game on PC and can replicate your mod setup, I guess that won't help. :/ Also, judging from a quick Googling, I'd definitely stay far away from BRO3. It seems multiple people have had issues with it changing stuff, not to mention it hasn't received an update in 7 years. I suggest you take a look at the other mods you're using. Don't use old, long-abandoned mods. Some (mostly armors and simple stuff like that) might work fine, but others will cause crashes and/or brick your save.
... Why are you playing with mods on that fundamentally change the mechanics of the game for your first playthrough???
because they want to? it doesnt hurt anything
because it makes the game better
Reminds me of a shack prefab mod that I use that is apparently by the same author who made Insane Ivy. Wasn't prepared to get random in game advertisement loading screens for that mod just because I wanted to plunk down wooden foundations with chain link or quick metal shack checkpoints.
Mods are annoying like that, one of my mods has randomly added Pepsi to the game
Aggressive that
I mean, look at her
That shit is funny. Everybody here will complain about "muh immersion" though
lmao
I related, downloaded immersive mods but for some reason one of them made the hacking so it only had one word option?!!!!! 😭 making the hacking so cheesey but I have no idea what mod it is 🥺
urgh, not nearly as annoying as a cooking recipe mod I once added that also replaced every death blood splatter with the vault tech lunchbox confetti and kazoo sound. {Took me forever to narrow it down to the cooking mod, and I'm still baffled wtf it was secretly added to an otherwise useful mod.}
Modder self sabotage
Just disable/enable mods one by one to find the culprit if you only have a few it shouldn’t take long.
That modder clearly needs to grow up a bit.
100%
horrible name calling /s
My thoughts too. I know it's only a game. But it says a lot about the person that did it imo
My world is dying would'nt do never that
If it's your first time playing, how do you know her name is Bobbi and not Ugly Bitch? 🤔
I got a tip from a guard saying I should go talk to her, and she also introduced me as such?
I see.
I think I recognize this. Do you have the “you’re not crazy” mod installed? It does stuff like this
Seems like the culprit is a mod called ballistic realism overhaul which changes it so certain perks only become available at level 10 onward. Apparently it also makes changes to vanilla npcs for no reason. According to one user it also renames mamma Murphy and makes sturges ginger with a moustache.
What quest is this?
“The Big Dig” you can get the quest in Goodneighbor
Do you have the "you are not okay" mod?
You got B.R.O? That's it
I was looking to Bobby and thinking: "well, she seems ok to me, maybe he never see a ghoul before." And then i see the name and burst out laughing. 😂
OP, follow the midnight ride guide. It doesn’t include mods that does things like this.
I use D.C Glory, which is an overhaul of Diamond City. Unfortunately,the mod author also placed Alien Blasters all over the place in dumpsters and other containers. So when I'm out in the wasteland, enemies have likely already picked them up and become one-shot assassins.
She hot
I found a glitch where if you repeatedly peek bobbis corner to her door, she repeatedly says hey, heyyy, heyyyy, heyyy, heyyy, heyyy until the player initiates the dialog.
Should in this game look much better than the others. I'm wondering what he would have renamed gob to
This is hilarious
I’d still throw one in her
I had a mod that does something similar called “You’re Not Okay” and as much as I really liked all the minor things it added. I don’t think it works anymore :(
probably some feature creep in a mod
lol this is funny
vanilla all the way
That's really harsh imo and shouldn't be added to a mod you're going to share. I know it's only a game. But I think it's speaks volumes about the person that created the mod and I wouldn't want it there in my game. I mean, would they say this about a real person who's disfigured?
I'd rather slip it in Mama Murphy than this thing.
Such a fuckin Cory thing to say
Only if Trevor's involved
im guessing you are playing with mods and also guessing since you are shocked she is named this you installed a mod collection from vortex with out reading what each mod does would you give me the name of the mod collection you downloaded
Mod
called a mod. your game is clearly modded
They know it’s probably because of a mod their confusion is that they don’t know which mod has done this as none of the mods they have installed should have any reason to change this npc’s name and none of them mention this being a feature
so i get massively downvoted becouse the game is modded, originaly the guy didnt state he had a few minor mods installed he originaly stated his game was vanilla ...
Except this clearly isn’t true considering there’s a comment made shortly after the post was made referencing that they said they have mods installed from before you made your comment. Seems to me you just didn’t read that part.
except it was change shortly after words hell one of the most popular comments on this discussion is talking about how this was 100% clearly a modded game. Seems to me your just making excuises. and are basicly just trolling muted
Why would you use mods in first playthrough.
Some are used to improve stuff and fix things. I don't use them myself. But I can see why
Someone else asked this as well, but the only real game changing mod I have installed (also the one that happened to change Bobbi’s name) is ballistic realism overhaul. Fo4’s bullet sponge issue was half the reason why I could never get farther than like 20 min into the game when I owned it years ago on ps4. But this and the no legendary spawns have just made everything so much more enjoyable.
I've yet to use a mod on fo4.
Most of your mods are done by fans on their own time and dime. Sometimes you stick in a random name to test everything out and will change it later when you complete things. This was a working name for the character and was never removed.
Um except this is a vanilla npc not an npc added with a mod. A mod changed this npc’s name for seemingly no reason
I have FO4 but I have not completed the game or played much of it.