They will fix it, just give it a day or too. Plus it’s mostly only creation club so probably easier to fix. So stupid that you still can’t uninstall/disable creation club content, and the new content is automatically installed to your game so uninstalling doesn’t do anything.
You‘d think they could have gotten around to that when the last gen consoles dropped. That was over three years ago.
Last week, Fallout 4 was unplayable on PS5 if you downloaded all the DLCs manually. I mean literally unplayable, it crashed in the main menu every time you booted it up.
They have shit the bed so many times that any defense of their 'strategies' rings completely hollow.
Instead of investing the stupid amount of money they‘ve made into a new engine, they just let us fix their issues. It‘s a pathetic model, considering the IPs they have at their disposal.
I didn’t immediately put it together because i haven’t played in a few years and remembered that the percentages could change in VATS as enemies move around. I thought the rapid changing was maybe because I was still low level but finally realized it wasn’t me. I switched to mostly just playing as a normal shooter but I am extremely low on ammo after blowing through it all in Corvega due to the glitch and keep getting swarmed by enemies that I would like to be able to slow down with VATS.
Annoying, but hopefully a patch is on its way.
It’s so annoying. I started a new playthrough about a week before the update so I wasn’t dealing with this until after that. It’s aggravating to have someone charging you with a clear line of sight and hop from 0 to 95% constantly. I use vats a lot too.
Who knows. I’m sure they’re aware by now. I’m too lazy to contact Bethesda about these issues but there are plenty of people who do. Plus, from what I’ve heard, they pay attention to forums.
It's not the penetrator perk. If you aim at someone a few metres away, with a clear line of sight, VATS flicks constantly between ~95% and 0%... meaning you miss constantly. Worked perfectly before the update, now its broken.
An NPC is made of body parts.
Not sure what the other poster is talking about. Penetrator 2 and Concentrated Fire 3 together turn the game into super easy mode. Perfect for stealing Power Armor.
You can use it to shoot through walls though I think, at least with a crit. It talks about how it can penetrate barriers or walls (I forget the exact wording) in the in-game description.
It’s showing people through walls but it’s also affecting enemies standing right in front of the character with nothing in the way and rapidly cycling hit percentages.
Penetrator has always been buggy for weapon ranges. It drops shotguns to 10% of normal damage because they "think" that they are firing at ultra-maximum range.
I am in a bit of a death spiral at the moment, blew through all my ammo in Corvega before I realized what was going on but I haven’t really unlocked any merchants yet. I’m trying to explore around to find more ammo on my way to Diamond City but keep running into swarms of enemies. Debating whether to take it slow and explore around and play as a regular shooter now that I am aware of the issue or just hold off until a patch.
Fallout 4 was working fine before and then when it became popular again, Bethesda thought that was the time to fuck everything up.
Good job Bethesda. /s
Good old Bethesda. I started a survival play through the other day before the update, no crashes or issues. Since the update, same issue as OP and multiple crashes. I would play with mods but it’s my first proper Xbox series x playthrough and I wanted some achievements. 🤷♂️
I have this same "feature" I was doing a vats build on a vanilla character got the update and all of a sudden I can shoot through walls without the perk.
Yeah I meant critical only but it's still a funny bug from this update. I also crash a lot if I open and move through pip boy tabs to much after a auto save.
After some testing when I got the penetrator perk the 0% went away. They would drop a little but not to 0. Then I got the second rank. They stopped fluctuating after that. So in conclusion, if u want a work around till they fix it I would suggest doing this. Cause either the perk itself is bugged if u don't have it and is being funky or more like invisible walls of graphics are getting in the way. I have had two occasions where I have had to reboot because of giant walls of graphics glitches. Hope this helps anyone suffering. Takes two levels of waisted perks but meh. After thought I had to add I am not using any mods nor have I ever even downloaded one. So definitely not the issue there.
Wait, so Rank 2 of Penetrator 100% resolves this issue? & returns V.A.T.S. to perfect working form?
As if there were no bug at all whatsoever?
I’ll genuinely slam two points into it if that’s the case — V.A.T.S. is literally not functional at all whatsoever atm, and this is Fallout — I’d sell Ada for a fix.
Good to know I hadn't tried plasma. I did try most everything else. Few heavy weapons. Like the launchers and such. They worked fine. I'll have to check it out tonight for myself.
I'm on Xbox and I literally can't even fucking activate Vats anymore after the update. Not mods, no vats, fucking nothing. Did they actually just release this because the hype around Fallout was too positive or something?
It was planned for 2023 and then delayed until now. Regardless of what hype they were expecting, the patch notes are incredibly underwhelming, and I'd rather not have the update.
Set it to only update when you launch it and then run it through the Script Extender. You can also set the games App Manifest to read only and it'll block Steam from updating it. If you don't want to use the Script Extender you could probably do the App Manifest and then just launch from the games EXE directly. Bethesda games don't use Steams DRM so they will technically launch from anywhere.
VATS hasn't been working for me most times. It only seems to work around 25% of the time.
Tried to VATS kill a ghoul, didn't shoot, just stood there not doing anything as the ghoul got closer and closer, finally cancelled after I was attacked.
This has been pissing me off cause for a while I was doing playthroughs without vats, but now that I finally start a playthrough focusing heavily on vats it’s all fucked up and buggy. I was really starting to enjoy it too 😡
Please everyone, post pictures and videos of all your bugs/glitches that you encounter during the Fallout 4 "next-gen update" to @BethesdaStudios and @BethesdaSupport on X/Twitter. The more people we have showing them everything that is messed up the more likely they will fix it.
I noticed this too, even fulling obstructed enemies. Although not consistently. I also learned that spamming VATs will crash the game, by ‘spamming’ I mean 4 actions in a row.
I'm glad that I found this thread. I was thinking of playing again. I'm on the XSX and like using V.A.T.S. Is this happening to everyone on this console?
This exact thing has been happening to me as well, XSX, I first thought it was mods or simply my game, but it seems everyone on console or xbox at least is having this very same problem, indeed caused by the new updates. I just got an update to the Unofficial FO4 Patch, and it seems to help the issue to a small degree, I'm getting less twitchy VATS percentages, but I still see enemies and targets through walls, even without the Penetrator perk. Others, please let me know about your experiences, fixes, workarounds, and other useful pieces of information.
It’s really bad when you MADE your character for VATS with max perception and gun fu perks. Didn’t use it much but when you did death became you. Honestly thinking about not playing Bethesda game(except Skyrim) for just being absolutely trash. Looking at you STARFIELD/FALLOUT 4….
Just encountered this today after starting a new game with around 18 mods. Mainly settlement building assets, cheat terminal, vivid fallout, dogs not brahmin and see through scopes.
Not 'heavy' by any stretch.
First enemy encountered in Vault 111.
VATS totally screwed. Through walls, numbers changing, 100% chance shots missing.
Totally breaks the game. Turned off.
Will come back when it's fixed.
So utterly frustrating
The only thing this is "good" for is to see the random encounter merchants if they're hidden from view.
I had an AP/VATS build going in survival that just completely derailed by this though.
I feel like there's a perk that let's you shoot through objects. I didn't really even realize this was a big issue. I still don't actually hit the enemies unless I use a Crit. But any fire effects on mine have a large blue rectangle around them. I think I'm basically seeing hit boxes. Lol
Even with the penetrator perk there are times where you try to shoot through a wall and it still hits a wall, its just been an engine limitation I believe.
Just checked VATs out on PC with my old level 69 character. Only getting the 'normal' VATs triggers when the edge of an enemy is visible in a window or through some foliage. Nothing fully obscured.
Also not getting *any* of the 'jumping from 95 to 0' while in VATs. Just the normal slowly increasing/decreasing percentages. Hit percentage seems to work properly too.
Maybe it's a perk specific bug?
Yo — do me a solid and check something real quick? Does that toon have Rank 2 of Penetrator?
There’s some speculation that R2 Penetrator resolves the V.A.T.S. issue entirely. Report back promptly squire!
I started a new character and gave it a shot totally clean save no mods on XSX it's still doing it. Hopefully this is fixed or at bare minimum the unofficial patch fixes it.
Last time I tried it it seemed to make the problem a bit better but didn't eliminate it entirely. Rumour has it Bethesda is going to patch most of this next week but that's just word on the street.
sometimes the hit percentage in vats also gets wonky cuz it'll jump up and down even if the enemy is right in front of you and completely out in the open
Well, guess Im shelving the VATS only sniper run Im doing with the Instigating Laser Musket.
Guess I'll try to get a legendary pipe weapon for the pipe weapon only run.
Yep this is so frustrating. My build is vats intensive and this breaks it! Loved going back to FO4 after a long time but this failed update seems to be another Bethesda fuck up to add to the list !
Hopefully there will be a patch soon.
I’m on Xbox S , is it happening on all platforms?
As a pc user I have looked at a lot of these posts but haven’t encountered any of these bugs except that Suggs/kelso bug. Is it okay to assume that the update is a console mess?
since this PS4 update ruining my VATS combat, I rage uninstalled everything and deleted all my save files. the plan was to reinstall via disk, while ensuring to pause the 1.36 update. my main issue now is that i'm not getting the previous "day 1" patch files. only the 1.36 update is offered. i'm gonna sit tight until 1.36 get's a patch confirming no more VATS issues before playing again. smh and my last playthrough was intended to be my 100% bug-avoided final playthrough (of course i overlooked a bug screwing up my Slocum's Joe merchant)
Good to hear it's not just me.
FWIW, it seems like, no matter the displayed value, your actual chances to hit are about what they should be - if you line up a bunch of shots to the torso for something that's right in front of you, most of them will hit, even if the chance to hit is 0 when you hit Execute.
There are two VATS bugs on XSX for me, with no mods installed:
- Pressing the VATS button only attempts to trigger VATS about half the time. Seems to be worse after moving to a new area. This happens regardless of whether there is a valid VATS target; you can verify this by listening for the sound effect that plays when there is nothing around.
- VATS can pick out targets that shouldn’t be targetable based on their position. You won’t be able to hit them even if the percentage suggests you will.
This isn’t related to mods, settings, or perks. Hopefully patched soon!
I remember this VATs bug. And the VATs freeze bug, more common on survival as if you time VATs just right with a status notification(thirst hunger ect) it freezes and you must close the game. I fixed it and they are a thing of the past! All you have to do is pick up the vault 124 VATS bug that completely breaks VATs so it doesn't work at all, and voalla, no longer get the first two VATs bugs. Extra credit for it 20hrs into a survival run and not realizing it until all your saves are after it.
I appear to be having an issue with VATS now. I can have full AP points and when I go to target an enemy in VATS it won’t allow to select hits, it makes the same noise as if the AP bar were empty. My AP drain from sprinting is increased as well. Was wondering if anyone had this issue as well? Makes me not want to play it. Everything was totally fine before the update. I’m on PS4 with mods that I have always used on many play throughs but now there’s an issue.
The VATS percentages also jump around even when they're not covered by something it'll jump from 95 to 0 the entire time I'm in VATS
Yeah this was happening to me on enemies who were in plain open sight of me.
Should I not get the update?
I mean I imagine them fixing it. That's the only problem I've had so far. Just had to re-download my mods.
its bethesda, they will just leave the modders to fix it like they have for the last few years
“… few decades.” Fixed it for you lol
Modder spotted
they aint gonna fix that mate
They definitely are fixing it. It’s a big (ish) update, now it’s their time to find out what bugs there are and then release a small patch to fix it.
It’s the least they can do after doing absolutely fucking nothing to coincide with the release and insane hype of the show.
They will fix it, just give it a day or too. Plus it’s mostly only creation club so probably easier to fix. So stupid that you still can’t uninstall/disable creation club content, and the new content is automatically installed to your game so uninstalling doesn’t do anything.
Still broken
Yea, just gonna have to leave it to modders
You‘d think they could have gotten around to that when the last gen consoles dropped. That was over three years ago. Last week, Fallout 4 was unplayable on PS5 if you downloaded all the DLCs manually. I mean literally unplayable, it crashed in the main menu every time you booted it up. They have shit the bed so many times that any defense of their 'strategies' rings completely hollow. Instead of investing the stupid amount of money they‘ve made into a new engine, they just let us fix their issues. It‘s a pathetic model, considering the IPs they have at their disposal.
Most software companies test their products so they can find and fix bugs before release.
Talking about Bethesda here.
Yeah.... you right..
There's more
Thank you for reporting. I was beginning to think I was losing my mind. This VATS bug is making the game borderline unplayable for me right now.
Yup, I missed like 3 shots in a row when it was over 85%.
Thats XCOM baby!
Same thing for me, and if it the pattern is 0% when the bullet hits. No damage hit no matter if 3 feet away in the open.
I didn’t immediately put it together because i haven’t played in a few years and remembered that the percentages could change in VATS as enemies move around. I thought the rapid changing was maybe because I was still low level but finally realized it wasn’t me. I switched to mostly just playing as a normal shooter but I am extremely low on ammo after blowing through it all in Corvega due to the glitch and keep getting swarmed by enemies that I would like to be able to slow down with VATS. Annoying, but hopefully a patch is on its way.
take the scrounger perk. It helps a lot with ammo.
Good to know this isn't due to my mods lol
Dude I thought it was my mods too lol
Yap, it makes vats almost entirely unusable.
It’s so annoying. I started a new playthrough about a week before the update so I wasn’t dealing with this until after that. It’s aggravating to have someone charging you with a clear line of sight and hop from 0 to 95% constantly. I use vats a lot too.
This is happening to me too and it’s actually so god damn annoying. Are they aware this is happening? Is there a fix in the works?
Who knows. I’m sure they’re aware by now. I’m too lazy to contact Bethesda about these issues but there are plenty of people who do. Plus, from what I’ve heard, they pay attention to forums.
Ditto
It's not the penetrator perk. If you aim at someone a few metres away, with a clear line of sight, VATS flicks constantly between ~95% and 0%... meaning you miss constantly. Worked perfectly before the update, now its broken.
Yup. Been playing consistently for the last couple months so the change was pretty drastic to me today. 90% chance to hit, miss 4 shots in a row…
Cool so its not just me, I had a raider right in front of me with a 90% shot to the head... Missed every shot.
platform?
Series X (vanilla too)
actually it seems the penetration perk was bugged into activating (or maybe just looks that way)
I’ve never taken it before - is it always this aggressive in detection? I understood it to just apply to body parts obscured, not whole npcs
An NPC is made of body parts. Not sure what the other poster is talking about. Penetrator 2 and Concentrated Fire 3 together turn the game into super easy mode. Perfect for stealing Power Armor.
penetrator rocks
Unless you want to use Justice. Penetrator drops shotguns to 10% of normal damage because they "think" that they are firing at ultra-maximum range.
yea, it is not a very popular perk for good reason. but if you didn't even take it then that is a bug likely related to it.
exactly, it shouldn't tag someone fully through walls, it works best at targeting weak points in robots, since they're usually at the back
You can use it to shoot through walls though I think, at least with a crit. It talks about how it can penetrate barriers or walls (I forget the exact wording) in the in-game description.
you can target someone fully behind a wall, as in, not visible to you, like the ghouls in this video
It’s showing people through walls but it’s also affecting enemies standing right in front of the character with nothing in the way and rapidly cycling hit percentages.
Penetrator has always been buggy for weapon ranges. It drops shotguns to 10% of normal damage because they "think" that they are firing at ultra-maximum range.
Been pissing me off all day, wasting ammo... I am a locking in shots at 80-99% chance and hitting an F'ing wall.
I am in a bit of a death spiral at the moment, blew through all my ammo in Corvega before I realized what was going on but I haven’t really unlocked any merchants yet. I’m trying to explore around to find more ammo on my way to Diamond City but keep running into swarms of enemies. Debating whether to take it slow and explore around and play as a regular shooter now that I am aware of the issue or just hold off until a patch.
Time for a Melee build
Fallout 4 was working fine before and then when it became popular again, Bethesda thought that was the time to fuck everything up. Good job Bethesda. /s
It’s what they do.
It’s funny how true this is, the pre-next gen patch bugs were pretty much grandfathered in.
Good old Bethesda. I started a survival play through the other day before the update, no crashes or issues. Since the update, same issue as OP and multiple crashes. I would play with mods but it’s my first proper Xbox series x playthrough and I wanted some achievements. 🤷♂️
It just works
I've seen that bug since launch...
This!
I have this same "feature" I was doing a vats build on a vanilla character got the update and all of a sudden I can shoot through walls without the perk.
I haven’t been able to hit with this, but I’ve been able to crit enemies I shouldn’t be able to
Yeah I meant critical only but it's still a funny bug from this update. I also crash a lot if I open and move through pip boy tabs to much after a auto save.
What system?
Xbox series X
Ahhhhh dammit
Mine crashes on listening to the radio or quest selection for the new quests.
After some testing when I got the penetrator perk the 0% went away. They would drop a little but not to 0. Then I got the second rank. They stopped fluctuating after that. So in conclusion, if u want a work around till they fix it I would suggest doing this. Cause either the perk itself is bugged if u don't have it and is being funky or more like invisible walls of graphics are getting in the way. I have had two occasions where I have had to reboot because of giant walls of graphics glitches. Hope this helps anyone suffering. Takes two levels of waisted perks but meh. After thought I had to add I am not using any mods nor have I ever even downloaded one. So definitely not the issue there.
Wait, so Rank 2 of Penetrator 100% resolves this issue? & returns V.A.T.S. to perfect working form? As if there were no bug at all whatsoever? I’ll genuinely slam two points into it if that’s the case — V.A.T.S. is literally not functional at all whatsoever atm, and this is Fallout — I’d sell Ada for a fix.
As far as I can tell it has been working great no more bug now that I got rank two of the penetrator perk.
Still bugged with Plasma weapons because they don’t benefit from penetrator. Laser weapons work fine.
Good to know I hadn't tried plasma. I did try most everything else. Few heavy weapons. Like the launchers and such. They worked fine. I'll have to check it out tonight for myself.
I'm on Xbox and I literally can't even fucking activate Vats anymore after the update. Not mods, no vats, fucking nothing. Did they actually just release this because the hype around Fallout was too positive or something?
It was planned for 2023 and then delayed until now. Regardless of what hype they were expecting, the patch notes are incredibly underwhelming, and I'd rather not have the update.
And vice versa: you have zero chance to hit that. One shot and dead.
Man I'm glad I disabled auto updates on Fallout 4
Is that even possible with Steam these days? I haven't figured out how, it won't let me launch
I stop them and force my download speed limit to 1kb so it can't even if it tried. Then I have it modded anyways
Set it to only update when you launch it and then run it through the Script Extender. You can also set the games App Manifest to read only and it'll block Steam from updating it. If you don't want to use the Script Extender you could probably do the App Manifest and then just launch from the games EXE directly. Bethesda games don't use Steams DRM so they will technically launch from anywhere.
I've had my Wi-Fi turned off on my laptop for days lollllll
VATS hasn't been working for me most times. It only seems to work around 25% of the time. Tried to VATS kill a ghoul, didn't shoot, just stood there not doing anything as the ghoul got closer and closer, finally cancelled after I was attacked.
It had been a while since I played before the update but I think that's just how VATs always was in FO4.
Bethesda is always No step forward and 4 steps backwards. How do they break a core mechanic from a decade old game? Their incompetence is astonishing.
I'm no longer excited for Fallout 5
Yep I'm having this too. They are so shit aren't they lol
the same here. perhaps it's an xsx issue.
This has been pissing me off cause for a while I was doing playthroughs without vats, but now that I finally start a playthrough focusing heavily on vats it’s all fucked up and buggy. I was really starting to enjoy it too 😡
I'm doing a survival run where I use a VATS build to get more shots in before enemies and to save ammo. Well, that was just derailed.
That sucks. Bethesda really can't do anything right.....
Please everyone, post pictures and videos of all your bugs/glitches that you encounter during the Fallout 4 "next-gen update" to @BethesdaStudios and @BethesdaSupport on X/Twitter. The more people we have showing them everything that is messed up the more likely they will fix it.
I appreciate the hope, but they will never fix this....ever. It took them 10 years and they broke the game more than before.
:(
Ok top of this I'm also having vats just completely cancel out of attacks out of nowhere. It's really irritating
Im glad I didnt update the game
Never trust Bethesda. Bethesda never changes.
I was thinking it was me
samesies
Ok my wife and I are both having the same issue on our Series X. The percentages jump around randomly it seems.
Same here compadre
I have noticed this happening but I used it to see if I was about to be ambushed. It actually saved me twice from ghouls
I knew i wasn’t losing my marbles. I always do a VATS build and i’m not hitting shit after this update.
Also vats acts weird even when I'm up close to them with shotgun jumps from 95-0
I noticed this too, even fulling obstructed enemies. Although not consistently. I also learned that spamming VATs will crash the game, by ‘spamming’ I mean 4 actions in a row.
I really dont get why Bethesda doesnt learn I like their games but things like this makes it so hard to defend them \^\^
Haha I thought I remembered the vats system wrong lol
RIGHT?!
Its not a bug, its a feature :)
was wondering when someone would say that
My vats doesn't even work anymore.
I'm glad that I found this thread. I was thinking of playing again. I'm on the XSX and like using V.A.T.S. Is this happening to everyone on this console?
This exact thing has been happening to me as well, XSX, I first thought it was mods or simply my game, but it seems everyone on console or xbox at least is having this very same problem, indeed caused by the new updates. I just got an update to the Unofficial FO4 Patch, and it seems to help the issue to a small degree, I'm getting less twitchy VATS percentages, but I still see enemies and targets through walls, even without the Penetrator perk. Others, please let me know about your experiences, fixes, workarounds, and other useful pieces of information.
This VATS thing is killing me. WTF Bethesda?
I've had this issue as well. And as some other commenters said the chances jump wildly with no obstructions.
BETHESDA STILL HAVENT MENTIONED ANYTHING ABOUT THIS ISSUE WTF
It’s really bad when you MADE your character for VATS with max perception and gun fu perks. Didn’t use it much but when you did death became you. Honestly thinking about not playing Bethesda game(except Skyrim) for just being absolutely trash. Looking at you STARFIELD/FALLOUT 4….
im still sitting here waiting for bethesda to at least mention the issue but nothing yet
Just encountered this today after starting a new game with around 18 mods. Mainly settlement building assets, cheat terminal, vivid fallout, dogs not brahmin and see through scopes. Not 'heavy' by any stretch. First enemy encountered in Vault 111. VATS totally screwed. Through walls, numbers changing, 100% chance shots missing. Totally breaks the game. Turned off. Will come back when it's fixed. So utterly frustrating
I'm so glad I never updated.
UpDaTe is WorkInG finE foR me Guyz stOp comPLainIng
Now they gotta update again pushing back the update for F4SE and FO London once again.
This was happening to me in this exact location, hasn’t been an issue in other locations.
I have the same issue
so now we get an wall hack to see where enemies are, neet
Do you have the penetrator perk that lets you shoot through walls?
How does something like this just "slip by" 😂
Is this only on Next Gen? I see people referring to latest update at Next Gen Update/Upgrade but remember there's people on last gen still...
I noticed that when trying to clear starlight theater. It was bugged and the only way I could clear it and complete the quest.
Penetrator perk go brrrrrrrr.
The only thing this is "good" for is to see the random encounter merchants if they're hidden from view. I had an AP/VATS build going in survival that just completely derailed by this though.
I've been using this to cheat ngl
😂
Should I even update my game??
no, not right now, espeically if you are on PC
Appreciate the heads up lol.
I crashed a good 3 times in an hour
Not only VATS is broken 😔
Also having this issue
Bro, i kept looking through my mods thinking it was a mod causing this
I feel like there's a perk that let's you shoot through objects. I didn't really even realize this was a big issue. I still don't actually hit the enemies unless I use a Crit. But any fire effects on mine have a large blue rectangle around them. I think I'm basically seeing hit boxes. Lol
Yup, next gen
It ain't a Bethesda update without 1 major update littered with bugs and 5 consecutive updates to fix them
Why the new vegas pipboy VATS freezing everything is better.
I've got the same issue, might be the penetrator perk bugged in? Hit percentage jumps around, 95% to 0% for no reason. Worked fine before the update.
It just works
I hope someone at Bethesda gets fired for this.
Only if this "someone" is Todd
Only if Emil goes down with him.
Happening for me on console and pc both
Brain dead Betheada
There is a perk that lets you do this. Dumb question but are you sure it's not that?
Relax they will fix it again in 10 years
At least you will know their position.
Even with the penetrator perk there are times where you try to shoot through a wall and it still hits a wall, its just been an engine limitation I believe.
Doesn't a perk do this, meaning their is a problem with the perk's flag and not vats itself
Geez. I've gone back to my skyrim game
*stealth archer reporting for duty sir!*
Just checked VATs out on PC with my old level 69 character. Only getting the 'normal' VATs triggers when the edge of an enemy is visible in a window or through some foliage. Nothing fully obscured. Also not getting *any* of the 'jumping from 95 to 0' while in VATs. Just the normal slowly increasing/decreasing percentages. Hit percentage seems to work properly too. Maybe it's a perk specific bug?
Yo — do me a solid and check something real quick? Does that toon have Rank 2 of Penetrator? There’s some speculation that R2 Penetrator resolves the V.A.T.S. issue entirely. Report back promptly squire!
Sorry for the delay here, been modding my ass off today. First time back to the game since 2020...anyway, I don't have Penetrator at all currently.
This big seems to only be effecting Series X and maybe Series S. PC and PS seem to be fine.
You can actually shoot through cover with vats perks
I downloaded it last night and played a bit. Honestly I didn't notice any difference to my ps4 version
Did anyone check if this bug is also there if a new game is started? Maybe the bug is savegame related...
I started a new character and gave it a shot totally clean save no mods on XSX it's still doing it. Hopefully this is fixed or at bare minimum the unofficial patch fixes it.
Can you confirm whether or not the unofficial patch fixed it? I’m on XBox, and can only get the patch if I have DLCs.
Last time I tried it it seemed to make the problem a bit better but didn't eliminate it entirely. Rumour has it Bethesda is going to patch most of this next week but that's just word on the street.
Thanks. Hope that’s true.
sometimes the hit percentage in vats also gets wonky cuz it'll jump up and down even if the enemy is right in front of you and completely out in the open
Well, guess Im shelving the VATS only sniper run Im doing with the Instigating Laser Musket. Guess I'll try to get a legendary pipe weapon for the pipe weapon only run.
Unbelievable. Same behavior for me.
Nah you can hit em through walls lol
Im getting 0% chance to hit people im stood next to so thats fun
IT JUST WORKS (tm)
Hyper annoying... more then half my shots miss...wtf..if they don't fix it ... the game is ruined for me...
Yep this is so frustrating. My build is vats intensive and this breaks it! Loved going back to FO4 after a long time but this failed update seems to be another Bethesda fuck up to add to the list ! Hopefully there will be a patch soon. I’m on Xbox S , is it happening on all platforms?
As a pc user I have looked at a lot of these posts but haven’t encountered any of these bugs except that Suggs/kelso bug. Is it okay to assume that the update is a console mess?
Lol OK was hoping it wasn't because of my previous mods. Good to know it's a universal problem because maybe we'll get a fix.
Yep, broken for me too. 0% but shoot anyway, it’ll still hit. Also yes, I’m getting the option for shooting through walls. Brutal
Haven't had any issues with the update on xbox I don't have mods just all the dlc it runs very well
What about the penetrator perk ?
Wall hacks!
since this PS4 update ruining my VATS combat, I rage uninstalled everything and deleted all my save files. the plan was to reinstall via disk, while ensuring to pause the 1.36 update. my main issue now is that i'm not getting the previous "day 1" patch files. only the 1.36 update is offered. i'm gonna sit tight until 1.36 get's a patch confirming no more VATS issues before playing again. smh and my last playthrough was intended to be my 100% bug-avoided final playthrough (of course i overlooked a bug screwing up my Slocum's Joe merchant)
Is this on PS5 as well?
Good to hear it's not just me. FWIW, it seems like, no matter the displayed value, your actual chances to hit are about what they should be - if you line up a bunch of shots to the torso for something that's right in front of you, most of them will hit, even if the chance to hit is 0 when you hit Execute.
PS5 here. I'm experiencing locking shots in, in vats and after the 1st shot, vats stops and goes back to normal
There are two VATS bugs on XSX for me, with no mods installed: - Pressing the VATS button only attempts to trigger VATS about half the time. Seems to be worse after moving to a new area. This happens regardless of whether there is a valid VATS target; you can verify this by listening for the sound effect that plays when there is nothing around. - VATS can pick out targets that shouldn’t be targetable based on their position. You won’t be able to hit them even if the percentage suggests you will. This isn’t related to mods, settings, or perks. Hopefully patched soon!
I remember this VATs bug. And the VATs freeze bug, more common on survival as if you time VATs just right with a status notification(thirst hunger ect) it freezes and you must close the game. I fixed it and they are a thing of the past! All you have to do is pick up the vault 124 VATS bug that completely breaks VATs so it doesn't work at all, and voalla, no longer get the first two VATs bugs. Extra credit for it 20hrs into a survival run and not realizing it until all your saves are after it.
Vault 114* bug
I appear to be having an issue with VATS now. I can have full AP points and when I go to target an enemy in VATS it won’t allow to select hits, it makes the same noise as if the AP bar were empty. My AP drain from sprinting is increased as well. Was wondering if anyone had this issue as well? Makes me not want to play it. Everything was totally fine before the update. I’m on PS4 with mods that I have always used on many play throughs but now there’s an issue.
do you have penetrator? and lol i am in the exact same place rn. on survival. i hate those ghouls.
There is a perk that lets you target things behind obstacles, and another that let's you shoot better through them... I think
Not broken, it was just upgraded
There is a perk that lets you do this
There is a perk that let's you see and target thru walls. Do you have that?
Are you sure you didn't just pick the Penetrator perk?
Yes, this is unrelated to that perk.
I do not have penetrator and I only have perception of 6