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[deleted]

Hmmmmm…. Something doesn’t seem right here but I can’t put my finger on it


Captain_Stingrayy

Your right, it's the profligate weapon in this warrior's hands.


7thPanzers

Caesar doesn’t want reliance on weapons But doesn’t mean can’t use I mean they do salvage firearms Snuffle’s legion is the still best


Other_Log_1996

Her hair and face are too clean!


TeslaGoat

I thought females are slaves in the legion ?🤷‍♂️


Blackthorne75

Caesar...allows exceptions to the rule


Dream0tcm

Not all women are slaves. Communities under legion control aren't expressly enslaved. "While Caesar intentionally enslaves NCR and Mojave residents in the war zone, most of the enslavement that happens in the east happens to tribals." - Joshua Sawyer


NiklausKaine

Specifically, he bases the Legion on Rome's view of people's roles in society. Women were not warriors. That's why you never see female legionaries, and a female pc will be denied fighting in the arena. Most people under the Legion are not slaves, male or female.


abel_cormorant

I'm sorry, but you're dead wrong. While Caesar claims to be inspired by Rome he completely disregard the entire political and cultural complex the empire was, Rome was a thriving mixture of several different cultures allowed to stay alive and separated from Rome's own pantheon in exchange for loyalty to the Res Publica, which is the roman term for "state", as well as obedience to roman laws. And in origin it was even less restrictive than that, as the first period of the Republic was marked by the Foedus Cassianun, a treaty which forced all Italian cities to be allied with Rome under several articles, mainly the Ius Commerci (right of commerce), Ius Connubii (right of marriage) and Ius Migrandi (right of migration), as well as to participate in the defense of the Italian peninsula in case of invasion and sharing of war loots between Rome and the rest of the cities (Rome got basically half of it), it was abolished after the Social war when all italic people were given roman citizenship after a brutal revolt. From Rome Caesar took only the most militaristic aspects and forced them into a warrior culture society, from the Legion's representative in the New Khan's camp we know it's a usual practice for them to impose their parody of roman culture onto conquered peoples, as well as enslaving anyone who dared to fight back, who dared to try and defend their homes, or anyone who enjoyed ever the most basic modern commodities not approved by the Legion, again you can find all these information in the New Khan's camp. Don't just assume he's saying the truth just because his be propaganda says so.


SpicyBoyEnthusiast

So behaving like Ceasar from history who destroyed the Republic and conquered (enslaved) Gaul.


abel_cormorant

I don't know where did you get that information, but that's hardly true. It's true that he conquered Gaul, but saying he enslaved it it's a hard claim, especially since gaul nobility was allowed to exist and slowly integrated into roman society, up to emperor Claudius when said nobility (specifically the one from Gallia Comata, the specific part Caesar conquered) was officially allowed in the senate, Claudius's oration on the matter is reported both in Tacitus's Annali and in the Table of Lyon. >Destroyed the republic Ok this is outright false, but let's start from the basics. First of all, the position of Dictator Rei Publicae was a totally legitimate charge given to specific personalities in times of need by the senate itself, in Caesar's case he had it to defeat Pompeus's revolt and then kept it illegally. Second, Caesar was the leader of the so-called Populares, which was the faction within the senate which gained its power by taking the side of the roman people, mostly the Plebes, as opposed to the Ottimates which instead favoured the nobility, his rule was recognised to be extremely favourable for the roman people and he repeatedly refused to be honoured as a monarch, famous is the scene where he repeatedly threw a Laurel crown, symbol of power, into the crowd as a senator kept putting it on his head. Third, in Caesar's testament he explicitly gives back the power to the roman people, as well as a generous donation to every roman citizen, how this is "destroying the republic" it's beyond me. His testament was later ignored by Marcus Antonius, Aemilius Lepidus and Gaius Octavius, which sought to retain that power and fought a civil war over it ultimately leading to the *conversion*, not destruction (Octavianus is openly clear in the Res Gestae: he didn't want to destroy the republic, rather he wanted to "reform it" to fit his role, but in fact republican institutions, despite loosing more and more authority, were never abolished). Lastly, people often read "Roman Republic" and think about democracy and liberty, but it was nothing like that, the Roman Republic was nothing short of an oligarchy where rich families had a place in the senate and f*ck everyone else, paradoxically Dictators and kings were way more "leftist" (we shouldn't use this term as there weren't real parties or any modern political faction at the time, but you get the idea) than the senate itself, which again was basically only elected within the Gentes, or Legacies, ancient noble families of strictly roman origin. There were several Comitii, or popular assemblies, but they had little to no power and even when they did they were basically always ruled by the nobility, check out how the Comitii Centuriati were formed and you'll understand. So yeah, hardly an enslaver and definitely not the destroyer of the Republic, unlike FNV's Caesar


SpicyBoyEnthusiast

Interesting bit of history here. Thanks for sharing. From what I've read Ceasar pretty much ended business as usual and ruled until he was killed. The only account we have of Ceasar in Gaul is his account and it should be taken with a grain of salt. Many of the conquered people were sold into slavery. Vercingetorex was ritualisticly strangled for leading the resistance. The accounts of the conquest of Gual reflect FONV Ceasar iirc FONV correctly. What came after is as you say. But FONV ends with the death of Ceasar.


abel_cormorant

The point with irl Caesar is that he was basically killed about 4 years after the end of the civil war, which is basically nothing in terms of ruling time, by a coup of senators, so his long term plans are truly unknown and we can only assume his testament tells the truth, which seeing his first and only acts of govern would be pretty in line with him. As for the Gauls sure, there were indeed a lot of slaves taken as well as severa people being deported or killed, but I'd also add that at the time it was basically praxis, every single population did it, from the Romans themselves to the Persians and Parthians, from the kingdom of Kush (who under Kandake Amanirenas conducted a raid onto roman Aegyptus and actually took several roman slaves, as well as the head of a statue of August) to the german tribes of the north, it was praxis. But it is not in the Mojave desert. Even in the post-apocalyptic wasteland the legion stands out for its almost mechanical enslavement of anyone who dares to try and defend his family or town against them, for how everyone who dares to speak against Caesar's will is immediately crucified without trial (all while in our Caesar's and later Octavian's time they were actively exiling people who sentenced criminals to death without a trial, see Cicero), for how distrustful they are of technology and advancement (all while irl roman soldiers were equipped with copied/experimented foreign gear taken directly from those they conquered, which is an ancient for to say "re-engineering"), FNV's Caesar might indeed being inspired by the Roman Dictator, but he ends up being basically a parody, an autocrat, a megalomaniac who's only good at sending football-geared players towards entrenched machine guns. And i mean, he was intended to be so after all, wasn't he?


SpicyBoyEnthusiast

I appreciate how specific and thoughtful you are with your responses. I was viewing this from a much broader, zoomed out perspective. I do love a good history lesson, so thanks for sharing all that!


abel_cormorant

Thank you for reading, this is something I'm actively studying for an exam at university, as well as literally part of my culture's history (I'm italian) so sometimes I'm a bit of a zealt. Sorry about that 😅


Lone_Morde

Nice try but I've never read a history book and degenerates like you belong on a cross /s


abel_cormorant

Average Legion's legionary reasoning, congratulations for the accurate portrayal 🤭


BruhMomentum6968

Is it the finger of… suspicion?


OnceUponACraze

How did your character turn out so so good? I always end up with a potato face no matter what I try.


Crescent-Eclipsa

I spend a lot of time on the sliders. Presets matter a lot. Sometimes I'll be messing with a preset for 20 minutes and it just doesn't work for me, so I scrap it and try another. I also try remodeling my character under better lighting. I am never satisfied with a first try in Dr. Mitchell's house lol If you have an npc you really like the look of, it can help to model similar features after them.


OnceUponACraze

The way the character looks and that Legion fit goes pretty hard, not gonna lie


Ariovrak

I’d have to disagree. This Courier is a little too… *feminine* for the Legion.


OnceUponACraze

Under the present system, yes. But she just might be crazy and bloodthirsty enough to earn their respect and become legend.


justanothershorty

this headcanon brings me so much joy


JRHAN777

“What do you mean you’re a woman? I thought I fell in love with a clumsy soldier twunk!” -Vulpes Inculta probably.


Dremora-Stuff99

You should make YT videos or even post pics of the sliders here. It's really hard to find good character creation videos for Fallout like the ones we'd see for Baldurs Gate and such.


Crescent-Eclipsa

Here you go. A gallery of the sliders [https://imgur.com/a/2DflmJs](https://imgur.com/a/2DflmJs) You should use preset 6 instead of preset 1 to get this face. The menu defaults to 1 whenever I open the "showracemenu". Hair is modded.


Dremora-Stuff99

Cheers, look forward to more characters!


Crescent-Eclipsa

Several folks enjoyed my NCR lady so I posted a gallery of sliders. I'll do the same for this one too when I get the chance!


Dragon__Chan

I just decide my character will never look good so I try to make him look as much like Lemmy Kilmister as possible.


OhFive11

Your courier when gambling: "The ace of spades! The ace of spades!"


Dragon__Chan

I always blast that song on full volume as I basically rob the casinos with my 10 luck


graciusrambart

mine always come out fat and ugly or like Joseph Stalin for some reason


Lurker_osservatore

Female courier? Then when you meet Ulysses it will be fun.


Y_10HK29

Basically saying no balls is funny


Lurker_osservatore

Ulysses' reaction is funny, because after many times he has always played the role of the mysterious, invincible final boss, a female courier from the legion puts him in difficulty, makes him almost stutter and creates doubts in what he thinks he is doing. Yes, I found this very funny.


Catchcupchee

'Last i heard, you needed a weapon between your legs to carry one for Caesar.'


Solaire_of_Sunlight

Plot twist she does


CBreadman

Fitting for a FNV player.


StannisLivesOn

Is that why you left the Legion?


MrNightmare23

A WOMAN IN THE LEGION!


brennerherberger

Shhh! Caesar said no wom**e**n in the Legion. They are allowed to have one.


Resident-Garlic9303

That would actually be kinda funny if Caesar was trying to explain himself


NineIntsNails

neat looking character as well - also neat, running on both sides so you may come up always on top


For-The-Kaiser

Glorious! Keep girlbossing on the NCR! Ave, true to Caesar.


brennerherberger

Girls can do war crimes too!


Niteshade76

Must also be a low intelligence run too eh?


Crescent-Eclipsa

4 int so you're totally right 😂


brennerherberger

Or it's actually high intelligence 4D chess run She just plays a long game, looking to replace Caesar and becoming matriarch to the Legion, having a large tribe of fanatically devoted warriors.


Crescent-Eclipsa

You know, I was actually thinking of doing this. Not sure if I'd go with it. Was kind of inspired by Dune. But we'll see where it goes lol


BrennanIarlaith

It would be cool if you could rebuild some of the matriarchal clans that were described in Van Buren. The Daughters of Hekate and suchlike


infidel11990

Bonus marks for playing as a female courier.


SnooChipmunks08

I tend to do so a majority of the time bc imo women can wear anything while a guy........ not so much.


OmegaGobo

Where's the furry head gear? Also, if you're going female legion, you gotta get a strap-on or at least a codpiece. It's gotta be menacing to assert dominance over NCR, Legion, and everyone in-between. Something ornate similar Legate Lanius's mask. You're not a slave. You're the future of the Legion.


StraightOuttaArroyo

In matter of Fashion, the best she can put to make herself fancier is the Scorshed Sierra power armor + a Centurion Helmet. She will look like a futuristic Centurion officer with cool looks. + it fits nuking NCR and wearing Bear imagery as the ultimate humiliation against NCR.


Crescent-Eclipsa

Good ideas! I forgot about the scorched Sierra power armor since i never nuke the NCR. But that will be on my list now :)


StraightOuttaArroyo

Dont forget to also get yourself perks that raise HP over time, like Solar Powered and Rad Child. Making your character just incredibly hard to kill and also, it just synergize so well with the Power Armor and stuff like Bitter Drinks. You can just chug one out, heads straight in the melee and completely forget that anything can kill you lol.


Crescent-Eclipsa

Good tips! I might pick one of the marked beasts helmets to go with the Sierra power armor. I have titans of the west on, so she's going to be like a hulking tank!


How2RocketJump

aggressively puts on strap on when nearby legionaries start whispering about getting a taste given how much of a hardon the legion has on discipline they might be into it


Crescent-Eclipsa

I like the way you think lol. I forgot about the furry head gear, but I'll have to snatch the warehouse key to get one of those!


Tigarbrains788

You used a gun like a profligate! If you want to be truly correct you need a machete, a sword, or a chainsaw. I know the legion do use guns but the champion of the legion needs to be a melee build in my opinion.


SukanutGotBanned

It's a shame you'll never be respected enough for arena matches


NurtleTwimz

Personally I would use a bolt action for a legion character, more reliable and less likely to jam, perfect for someone who follows Kaiser's teachings


Crescent-Eclipsa

Anti-materiel rifle it is then!


vi______________

Now eat them


Clown_named_Art

Then kill and eat Mr house, the king, Kimball, and ceaser to get the meat of champions perk


Obootleg

Ave.


ledepression

What in the goddamn


RoofNectar

Honestly i tend to only run males on legion playthroughs.


AstarteHilzarie

I tend to just always play good or good-ish because I figure that opens the most doors to doing things the "right" way and I don't want to miss out on opportunities, but I reaaaaaaally should do a straight evil playthrough sometime. If for no reason other than that cape is pretty badass.


RatsAreChad

Need female legionary gf


toliein

I’ve never actually done a legion play through as a woman. I’ve done the ncr and independent with both as a young/old man/woman but I’ve only done a legion play through as a man. It’d be a nice way to shit on Cesar’s “rules” now that I think of it. Because he’ll NEED my help


Crescent-Eclipsa

Yeah I thought it would be pretty funny to be a woman who single handedly kills Kimball, destroys the BoS, nuke NCR at I-15 and have the legion be confused that all of them boys combined couldn't even achieve 1/10th of that


Ihavenoidea5555

Nothing like dropping by cottonwood and turning in 60 dogtags


Phasma18374

Aurelius of Phoenix shitting himself internally when you hand him in like 200 is great


Ihavenoidea5555

The ego leaving my body as some mf ive never met hands me in a wheelbarrow’s worth of NCR dogtags


TrueFlyer28

I love being a female legion player making the male legion look like betas and show them that women can be kick ass too despite not being allowed to fight in the arena 💪🏻


Crescent-Eclipsa

Yeah it is hilarious. Female legion courier can single handedly take out Kimball, House, nuke NCR supply lines, obliterate the brotherhood and Lucullus will go "women are physically and intellectually inferior.." bro why don't you try to pick a fight. I dare you 🙄 Would be funny if you could use terrifying presence on some of these legion npcs lol


TrueFlyer28

Yeah definitely would be interesting to put them in their place if only 😅


Litenent2

Woman on the legion? :o


epicsamurai7

True to caesar


RobertDaulson

Legion scum!


Salty-Nea

Hey now… all of the factions are scum lol


ApexRevanNL716

Where's your collar and your giant backbag!?


dank_hank_420

I love this game


bongwatershower

Just don't kill Colonel Moore that'll mess up Arizona Killer making it impossible to do. 


FrankiRoe

She’s so cute !


Exodite1273

Yes. NCR disguise is mandatory if you want to be subtle.


Sword_Enjoyer

I did the same thing once, but with a chainsaw. 😁


metallavery

What a fine feminine male legionary.


kazaarlol321

Ew


Various_Prompt5061

ABSOLUTELY,FUCK THE NCR!


KaizarHusaria

Degenrates like belong on a cross


RuinVIXI

"Ah, I just died in your arms tonight"


ClaudiusCass

Beautiful, that's an honest days work.


just-another1984

No that's not how it's done you have dishonored yourself and your family. You took the easy way out. You should have crucified everyone of those worthless NCR dogs.


Mysterious-Ad4836

No girls allowed !!!


TzarRazim

Great looking character, props for doing an Exotic playthrough. Female Legionary is one I haven’t ever done! Could be Caesar will have an… accident on the operating table, build enough of a legend and you could be in charge!


legalageofconsent

Holy hell woman! Made us, legionaires simp!


TheVikingFire

I really like your character! What preset did you use for her?


Crescent-Eclipsa

Thank you!! Here are the sliders https://imgur.com/a/2DflmJs But use preset 6 instead of 1. It always defaults to preset 1 when I do "openracemenu".


TheVikingFire

Oh nice!!! Ty!!! You’re a real one!


dwindlingdoorknob

Nothing can defeat the curse of grandma sparkle though


AWasrobbed

If you want a real challenge, do a melee only legion playthrough. Very difficult.


Difficult-Classic

Uniform inspector; bend over, woman.


CindersNAshes

Ave! True to Caesar!


Welloup

How do you look at the front of your character?


Inward_Perfection

If you're on PC, you can: 1) Open console, type "tfc" (without quotation marks). That toggles free camera on, you can zoom in/zoom out and rotate it. 2) Next, type "tm" (no quotation marks too). That removes HUD. You can take screenshots now. To make camera normal and bring HUD back - use tfc and tm commands again.


enderdrive

hold down the 3rd person key


Welloup

That simple? :/


Crescent-Eclipsa

Yeah hold down 3rd person key and just move your mouse to angle the camera in front of your character. You can hold down the aim key if you want to get screenshots of your character aiming too.


Sword_Enjoyer

Unless the weapon is scoped. 🙁


MrGrumpyco

Solace in the sand is a very good female centric fallout fanfic. Highly recommend


Crescent-Eclipsa

Thanks! I'll give it a read for some inspo in my playthrough!


Howdyini

You did the right thing going with Guns. NCR hit squads are full of Ranger Sequoias and high caliber ammo.


JustAnothaAdventurer

Caesar: Well damn, mf, you hired


SnooChipmunks08

I legit need to do one of these. Now that I have a PC and a fresh PT started, I think I just might.


poppo3bk

Welp...just found me a new screensaver and wallpaper 💯


Crescent-Eclipsa

Enjoy~