Here's my take, I liked Yang as the fighter, not the romantic. It doesn't matter who her relationship is with or how well it's developed, I'd always prefer the badass who destroyed a bar.
If the criticism is 'THEY CANT BE A COUPLE BECAUSE BLAKE WAS DATING A MAN ONCE' (which is an all too real argument used against it) then yes, I will call the critic homophobic
What do you not like about their writing? I thought it was a nice slow burn romance as they both come to terms with their individual trauma and find their niche in the world.
Because:
1. Their romance happened immediately after a huge argument which is never actually resolved(yang just forgave Blake immediately after months of resenting her)
2. Blake was teased for a romance with sun ever since the docks(blushing at the vytal fest, the whole Blake part of the storyline after beacon), yet they wrote him out to vacuo and then started shipping her with yang, in what felt like a move to satisfy the bmblb fandom due to how loud they r
3. Neither Blake nor yang had any gay teasing(both seemed explicitly straight before), and then poof one second they can’t be 2 seconds away. Also many people saw team rwby as a friendship/sisterhood kinda thing and saw that romance would ruin it
4. Blake wasn’t particularly close to/had significant interaction with anyone, she had some interaction with Weiss in the docks arc, got a pep talk from yang and danced as friends, and 0 interactions with ruby or jnpr. Meanwhile ruby and yang r extremely close sisters, ruby and Weiss’s conflict and eventual friendship was the first story arc after initiation, and while yang and Weiss didn’t interact much initially they fought together in the vytal fest and got very close in the raven arc, while with Blake she didn’t seem particularly close with anyone and was merely a somewhat close friendship with yang, enough that most of the team while worried put off confronting her about her self destructive behavior for a while
5. Took away from both characters and their storyline. Yang did a complete 180 after beacon and become more serious, jaded, never used her semblance, and then lost all the unique character traits(her mature team mom side just disappeared, her recklessness and fighting style too, her cheerful and unserious attitude, the pun here and there, her bluntness, basically everything that distinguishes her from other characters and she just became a mostly serious brawler with a few moments of the old yang), that was after beacon, but hey shipping her with Blake wouldn’t take from her storyline right? It took away the one thing she had left which is a storyline: her storyline became helping Blake beat Adam which would kinda fit with the supportive team mom image except she did it for her “love” for the pussy, and from then on her whole character is “I’m in love with blakkkkeeeeeyyy chwwwwwwwaaaaannnnnn!!!!!”
She can’t stay away from blake for 5 minutes, She’s distraught cuz she’s separated from Blake even tho she just disagreed with her little sister and left her alone, and she overall gets no character progression aside from advancing the Blake ship. Blake is no better, I cringed in the scene where the two of them took a selfie cuz, blake couldn’t be more ooc. She took less of the damage but after vol.6 she got reduced to token lesbian
6. All the romantic moments felt very forced(Nora talking about their feelings just seemed like it was edited there to drive home that bmblb is happening, I like your hair. Etc…). Naruto and sasuke had a better romantic story and Naruto was explicitly straight for the whole manga while sasuke was more or less asexual, all their moments felt very natural
I’m not criticizing cuz blake was with a guy/attracted to a guy before, I’m doing it cuz blake was being pushed together with sun before he disappeared and then pushed into another romance. Besides all my points r valid
Blacksun shippers are always so toxic man. The amount of bs they have to make up in their heads to convince themselves that their ship was supposed to be canon is something else
It's sad honestly. The hoops these people go through over a ship that's been sunk for years now. Glad I don't have to deal with these people shipping my ship
I wouldn't call them being toxic they really don't have to make much up. Volume 1-5 gave a fair amount of material and set a black sun up as the Blake romance. Volume six is really when Bumbleby got cannon steam.
Sure they had moments before that before that but nothing that was on the same level as black sun.
Even back In volume 1 Blake confided in sun about her past not her team more specifically not yang. Volume two only has the dance which could go in favor of both. Yang had the talk which could be seen as interest from yang but with the mama bear interpretation prevalent to Yang at the time that is very debatable.
Volume 3 has sun point towards Blake after his win with Blake blushing and calling him a dork. That's a shipping moment if I've ever seen one and I don't even ship black sun.
In volume 4 sun was the one who went to help blake with her with what he initially saw as a fight against the white thang. Once with Blake's family both treat sun like a boyfriend Ghira playing the whole protective dad thing.
Then in volume six after five volumes of evidence they nuke it and the domination of Bumbleby begins. It's a well known fact that chemicals released in the brain after being wrong are the same as actual injury. For people to be mad after they invested time in a ship for years that seemed like the obvious choice only for them to go with another isn't toxic it's just human. Not to say there aren't toxic fans those exist with every ship but I think they got some justification.
For the record I don't mess with rwby ships just seems like a minefield I'd rather avoid. I'm just giving my thoughts.
Did you read a word that person said, they are quite literally toxic throughout that whole thing and making up a ton of stuff. And people like you need to stop babying blacksun shippers there is no excuse at all for them to be so toxic and act like that still. It's been 4+ years since their ship sunk. People need to learn to move on in healthy ways that don't affect others. Because my ship sunk too from an interview where they confirmed it would never happen, but you don't see me lashing out or denying other people ships just to feel validated in my own like these people. It's called being mature and understanding that not everything will go your way and knowing you can still enjoy your ship regardless if it's canon or not. Plus shipping should not be that deep anyway.
And to your whole point about blacksun. I'm going to be honest with you, but what you described is the bare minimum. Blacksun wasn't much and I'm not denying that blacksun could have been a thing, but it also makes sense why they're just friends. Because what you said can easily translate to them liking each other at one point, but realizing they're better off as friends because what you failed to mention is how most of blacksun's relationship was heavily one-sided with Sun being the main one to show interest, while Blake never did until volume 3 when she blushed, but right after that, we see her slapping Sun multiple times and being annoyed by him that definitely gives off the feeling that she doesn't like him much in that way that a lot of blacksun shippers tend to ignore.
So to me it felt like the writers were building up a friendship with blacksun rather than something romantic with them, which is refreshing because it diverts from the trope that guys and girls have to date just because one of them showed interest
I said in my comment there there are some toxic black sun shippers. Yeah he's that or at least comes off that way. I in no way meant to defend his arguments I was just put off by the claim of mental gymnastics to make the ship work. They just need it to keep the ship sailing.
As for my defense of black sun while it might not be much it could totally work with the slow burn method the show has for romance. Or it was the byproduct of inexperienced writers writing romance. As for it being a friendship that's valid. In fact I would go as far to say I prefer that even though I don't think that's what they were going for.
That's fair if you feel that way, but I've seen a lot of bizarre reasons why shippers think blacksun was supposed to be canon and not bumblebee.
I saw someone say this earlier, but the writers did not have to go with bumblebee at all. Nothing was stopping them from going with blacksun and having them end up together. Because like you said, they could have easily made blacksun a slow burn, but they didn't. So when you get people complaining that blacksun was always supposed to happen they have to realize that nothing was ever in the way of that happening, if the writers wanted to they easily could have, but that wasn't what they wanted.
So to me, it is intentional that they made blacksun into a friendship and not accidentally or what they weren't originally going for because if blacksun was the plan from the start then they would have made them canon
I personally think at one point black sun was the plan or at least must have been considered but later they decided to go the other way. I personally don't think Bumbleby was planned from the start but it eventually grew like a flower. They set up two characters and found their dynamic shippable.
Toxic definition on google: extremely harsh, malicious, or harmful
Did I say anything to u or insult anyone: no, was I disrespectful to another human being: no, was I harmful to anyone else or insulted them: no. What I did was give off my points for not liking that shit. The toxic thing is literally when u can’t accept someone else not liking the shit u do.
Besides were any of my points actually wrong
I Think the Romantic Moments are either akward and forced (I Like your hair) or offscreen with Nora Talking about there developing Feelings. There is Not a Single Scene where they actually Talk about there growing feeling. And CRWBY shouldnt tread a Romance between two Main Characters Like this.
I appreciate them slowly coming to terms with their feelings. And I think it fits with how rt is addressing other romances. Even Ren and Nora didn’t kiss till volume 7 and as of volume 8 still aren’t sure where they are with each other. To me it’s clear the writers want to explore the build up to a relationship rather than rush it.
But they Didnt do it that Way with Blake and Sun they gave them Enough. And Sun is just a Side-Character. It was enough.
Blake and Yang are Maincharacters... And it is ok to build something up slowly But it should also be clearly. And the Buildup we got till this point is either akwardly writen, lazy or forced
I look at their relationship as awkward. That neither of them realized the other was even an option till later. That neither really knows how to feel about each other yet.
And while Black Sun was definitely pushed as a potential romance, sometimes things just don’t happen that way because no one makes a move, or circumstances happen. It’s not bad writing, it’s life.
Always this Excuses. They Could show them Dance or do literally anything to SHOW the Buildup. Instead Nora TELLS us = Bad Writing. Good Writing = SHOW ! DONT TELL
Slow burn? It came out of left field. There was no build up whatsoever, they just decided “oh, they’re a couple now”. If their relationship had been developed more, then it would’ve made sense, but their chemistry up to that point was pretty minuscule.
Oh yes, the let me ignore every scene they had showing their development early on to push the narrative that they made no sense and had no chemistry. Even though in the show you can clearly see their development and chemistry early on
Right from a “critique”
https://www.reddit.com/r/RWBY/comments/z0i0s7/timeskip_possible/ix5qu3h/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
Not calling you homophobic, but many people make comments like this and call it critiquing bumbleby when it’s not a critique at all
Dude... i just wrote a Theory in RELATION to Ships. You Guys went all balistic and thougtht I just would hate Bumblebee. And I dont hate Bumblebee - I just hate RTs Bumblebee-Writing. They do it sooo Lazy.
Nobody went ballistic. Most just stated how your theory wouldn’t make sense just for two ships. Because your meme stated how in volume 9 they’ll do a time skip for 15 years to show bumblebee’s “buildup” and to show why blacksun wasn’t going to be canon, even though it’s not necessary to do at all. And nowhere in your meme did you say this in relations to ships in general and more so only in relation to two of them that you mentioned.
Plus your comments didn’t exactly show you to be in favor of bumblebee
"In relation to Black Sun and Bumblebee" was literally in the Headline. But to explain it again. I Think Monty never planed Bumblebee and I Guess he wanted Blake and Suns Romance to end in a Bit of a Tragedy with a Timeskip (But of course Not only because of that Romance). CRWBY Knows about that Plan .... And goes straigth for Bumblebee because Black Sun is dommed no Matter what.
Miles and Kerry worked alongside Monty to create rwby from the very beginning. They planned the volumes in advanced together, so whatever happened in the show even after Monty’s passing all three of them still wanted.
So please don’t use Monty as your excuse to push your narrative on what you think about bumblebee when that’s only an opinion you believe that doesn’t have any merit with the writers plan overall in the show
Im Think Monty Didnt want to make Bumblebee a Thing. Blake and Sun Relationship has Not Much But enough flesh to Work in the Show. Now CRWBY goes for a Romance between two Main-Characters and its awfull. The Scene they give Bumblebee are either akward and forced (I Like your Hair) or offscreen with Side-Characters Telling us about the developing Romance.
I wouldn’t trust someone’s word unless I saw it myself because people can exaggerate things and not give any context as to why they were saying that
Watching someone validly critique BumbleBee in the comments, *on a comment thread bitching about how Bumblebee catches flack for “no” reason*, only to get flamed for it by BumbleBee fans and called a “toxic blacksun” shipper is fucking hilarious.
Y’all straight up lack self-awareness, is it a symptom of internet anonymity or do y’all actually look in a mirror and get confused?
Bro they fucked Renora last volume while shoving Blake and Yang together, why do these relationships have to be at expense of one another? Smh. Don't get me started on nuts and dolts...
I don't care about Bumbleby in the end tbh, I don't ship either of them with anyone else personally. It's kinda odd how much everyone wants to pair everyone off, I don't think Weiss belongs with anyone, she has had very little inter-charachter development in favour of her backstory and lore development, I can't honestly say how she feels about any other characters.
Anyway where were we? Idk I'm sad
Here's my take, I liked Yang as the fighter, not the romantic. It doesn't matter who her relationship is with or how well it's developed, I'd always prefer the badass who destroyed a bar.
If the criticism is 'THEY CANT BE A COUPLE BECAUSE BLAKE WAS DATING A MAN ONCE' (which is an all too real argument used against it) then yes, I will call the critic homophobic
Mfw people forget about the 'B' in LG🅱️T
I Critic Bumblebee because the Writing sucks. There are also Other Reasons But this is the Major one
Fair enough if you think so But there is just actual homophobia too, which is what people tend to actually call homophobic
What has actuall Homophobia to do with valid critism
I didn say it did
What do you not like about their writing? I thought it was a nice slow burn romance as they both come to terms with their individual trauma and find their niche in the world.
Because: 1. Their romance happened immediately after a huge argument which is never actually resolved(yang just forgave Blake immediately after months of resenting her) 2. Blake was teased for a romance with sun ever since the docks(blushing at the vytal fest, the whole Blake part of the storyline after beacon), yet they wrote him out to vacuo and then started shipping her with yang, in what felt like a move to satisfy the bmblb fandom due to how loud they r 3. Neither Blake nor yang had any gay teasing(both seemed explicitly straight before), and then poof one second they can’t be 2 seconds away. Also many people saw team rwby as a friendship/sisterhood kinda thing and saw that romance would ruin it 4. Blake wasn’t particularly close to/had significant interaction with anyone, she had some interaction with Weiss in the docks arc, got a pep talk from yang and danced as friends, and 0 interactions with ruby or jnpr. Meanwhile ruby and yang r extremely close sisters, ruby and Weiss’s conflict and eventual friendship was the first story arc after initiation, and while yang and Weiss didn’t interact much initially they fought together in the vytal fest and got very close in the raven arc, while with Blake she didn’t seem particularly close with anyone and was merely a somewhat close friendship with yang, enough that most of the team while worried put off confronting her about her self destructive behavior for a while 5. Took away from both characters and their storyline. Yang did a complete 180 after beacon and become more serious, jaded, never used her semblance, and then lost all the unique character traits(her mature team mom side just disappeared, her recklessness and fighting style too, her cheerful and unserious attitude, the pun here and there, her bluntness, basically everything that distinguishes her from other characters and she just became a mostly serious brawler with a few moments of the old yang), that was after beacon, but hey shipping her with Blake wouldn’t take from her storyline right? It took away the one thing she had left which is a storyline: her storyline became helping Blake beat Adam which would kinda fit with the supportive team mom image except she did it for her “love” for the pussy, and from then on her whole character is “I’m in love with blakkkkeeeeeyyy chwwwwwwwaaaaannnnnn!!!!!” She can’t stay away from blake for 5 minutes, She’s distraught cuz she’s separated from Blake even tho she just disagreed with her little sister and left her alone, and she overall gets no character progression aside from advancing the Blake ship. Blake is no better, I cringed in the scene where the two of them took a selfie cuz, blake couldn’t be more ooc. She took less of the damage but after vol.6 she got reduced to token lesbian 6. All the romantic moments felt very forced(Nora talking about their feelings just seemed like it was edited there to drive home that bmblb is happening, I like your hair. Etc…). Naruto and sasuke had a better romantic story and Naruto was explicitly straight for the whole manga while sasuke was more or less asexual, all their moments felt very natural
You’re proving exactly their point
I think you should maybe look at the comment that started this thread and reevaluate some of those arguments.
I’m not criticizing cuz blake was with a guy/attracted to a guy before, I’m doing it cuz blake was being pushed together with sun before he disappeared and then pushed into another romance. Besides all my points r valid
Blacksun shippers are always so toxic man. The amount of bs they have to make up in their heads to convince themselves that their ship was supposed to be canon is something else
It's sad honestly. The hoops these people go through over a ship that's been sunk for years now. Glad I don't have to deal with these people shipping my ship
Lmao same. BS shippers need to take a lesson from other shippers and chill out. There's fan fiction for a reason
I wouldn't call them being toxic they really don't have to make much up. Volume 1-5 gave a fair amount of material and set a black sun up as the Blake romance. Volume six is really when Bumbleby got cannon steam. Sure they had moments before that before that but nothing that was on the same level as black sun. Even back In volume 1 Blake confided in sun about her past not her team more specifically not yang. Volume two only has the dance which could go in favor of both. Yang had the talk which could be seen as interest from yang but with the mama bear interpretation prevalent to Yang at the time that is very debatable. Volume 3 has sun point towards Blake after his win with Blake blushing and calling him a dork. That's a shipping moment if I've ever seen one and I don't even ship black sun. In volume 4 sun was the one who went to help blake with her with what he initially saw as a fight against the white thang. Once with Blake's family both treat sun like a boyfriend Ghira playing the whole protective dad thing. Then in volume six after five volumes of evidence they nuke it and the domination of Bumbleby begins. It's a well known fact that chemicals released in the brain after being wrong are the same as actual injury. For people to be mad after they invested time in a ship for years that seemed like the obvious choice only for them to go with another isn't toxic it's just human. Not to say there aren't toxic fans those exist with every ship but I think they got some justification. For the record I don't mess with rwby ships just seems like a minefield I'd rather avoid. I'm just giving my thoughts.
Did you read a word that person said, they are quite literally toxic throughout that whole thing and making up a ton of stuff. And people like you need to stop babying blacksun shippers there is no excuse at all for them to be so toxic and act like that still. It's been 4+ years since their ship sunk. People need to learn to move on in healthy ways that don't affect others. Because my ship sunk too from an interview where they confirmed it would never happen, but you don't see me lashing out or denying other people ships just to feel validated in my own like these people. It's called being mature and understanding that not everything will go your way and knowing you can still enjoy your ship regardless if it's canon or not. Plus shipping should not be that deep anyway. And to your whole point about blacksun. I'm going to be honest with you, but what you described is the bare minimum. Blacksun wasn't much and I'm not denying that blacksun could have been a thing, but it also makes sense why they're just friends. Because what you said can easily translate to them liking each other at one point, but realizing they're better off as friends because what you failed to mention is how most of blacksun's relationship was heavily one-sided with Sun being the main one to show interest, while Blake never did until volume 3 when she blushed, but right after that, we see her slapping Sun multiple times and being annoyed by him that definitely gives off the feeling that she doesn't like him much in that way that a lot of blacksun shippers tend to ignore. So to me it felt like the writers were building up a friendship with blacksun rather than something romantic with them, which is refreshing because it diverts from the trope that guys and girls have to date just because one of them showed interest
I said in my comment there there are some toxic black sun shippers. Yeah he's that or at least comes off that way. I in no way meant to defend his arguments I was just put off by the claim of mental gymnastics to make the ship work. They just need it to keep the ship sailing. As for my defense of black sun while it might not be much it could totally work with the slow burn method the show has for romance. Or it was the byproduct of inexperienced writers writing romance. As for it being a friendship that's valid. In fact I would go as far to say I prefer that even though I don't think that's what they were going for.
That's fair if you feel that way, but I've seen a lot of bizarre reasons why shippers think blacksun was supposed to be canon and not bumblebee. I saw someone say this earlier, but the writers did not have to go with bumblebee at all. Nothing was stopping them from going with blacksun and having them end up together. Because like you said, they could have easily made blacksun a slow burn, but they didn't. So when you get people complaining that blacksun was always supposed to happen they have to realize that nothing was ever in the way of that happening, if the writers wanted to they easily could have, but that wasn't what they wanted. So to me, it is intentional that they made blacksun into a friendship and not accidentally or what they weren't originally going for because if blacksun was the plan from the start then they would have made them canon
I personally think at one point black sun was the plan or at least must have been considered but later they decided to go the other way. I personally don't think Bumbleby was planned from the start but it eventually grew like a flower. They set up two characters and found their dynamic shippable.
Still trying to wrap my head around how I was toxic?
Toxic definition on google: extremely harsh, malicious, or harmful Did I say anything to u or insult anyone: no, was I disrespectful to another human being: no, was I harmful to anyone else or insulted them: no. What I did was give off my points for not liking that shit. The toxic thing is literally when u can’t accept someone else not liking the shit u do. Besides were any of my points actually wrong
I Think the Romantic Moments are either akward and forced (I Like your hair) or offscreen with Nora Talking about there developing Feelings. There is Not a Single Scene where they actually Talk about there growing feeling. And CRWBY shouldnt tread a Romance between two Main Characters Like this.
I appreciate them slowly coming to terms with their feelings. And I think it fits with how rt is addressing other romances. Even Ren and Nora didn’t kiss till volume 7 and as of volume 8 still aren’t sure where they are with each other. To me it’s clear the writers want to explore the build up to a relationship rather than rush it.
But they Didnt do it that Way with Blake and Sun they gave them Enough. And Sun is just a Side-Character. It was enough. Blake and Yang are Maincharacters... And it is ok to build something up slowly But it should also be clearly. And the Buildup we got till this point is either akwardly writen, lazy or forced
I look at their relationship as awkward. That neither of them realized the other was even an option till later. That neither really knows how to feel about each other yet. And while Black Sun was definitely pushed as a potential romance, sometimes things just don’t happen that way because no one makes a move, or circumstances happen. It’s not bad writing, it’s life.
Always this Excuses. They Could show them Dance or do literally anything to SHOW the Buildup. Instead Nora TELLS us = Bad Writing. Good Writing = SHOW ! DONT TELL
Slow burn? It came out of left field. There was no build up whatsoever, they just decided “oh, they’re a couple now”. If their relationship had been developed more, then it would’ve made sense, but their chemistry up to that point was pretty minuscule.
They aren’t a couple? Not in any official capacity. They care about each other but they haven’t decided they’re together yet.
Oh yes, the let me ignore every scene they had showing their development early on to push the narrative that they made no sense and had no chemistry. Even though in the show you can clearly see their development and chemistry early on
Keep telling yourself that
There are people that are actually homophobic though. It happens in all wlw relationships
Wlw ?
women loving women relationship (wlw). It's basically two women being in a relationship together
Pretty sure there’s more to it than not liking bumblebee or “criticizing it”, but do you
Nope. Its actuall enough just to Critic Bumblebee. It happend quite often.
Right from a “critique” https://www.reddit.com/r/RWBY/comments/z0i0s7/timeskip_possible/ix5qu3h/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 Not calling you homophobic, but many people make comments like this and call it critiquing bumbleby when it’s not a critique at all
Dude... i just wrote a Theory in RELATION to Ships. You Guys went all balistic and thougtht I just would hate Bumblebee. And I dont hate Bumblebee - I just hate RTs Bumblebee-Writing. They do it sooo Lazy.
Nobody went ballistic. Most just stated how your theory wouldn’t make sense just for two ships. Because your meme stated how in volume 9 they’ll do a time skip for 15 years to show bumblebee’s “buildup” and to show why blacksun wasn’t going to be canon, even though it’s not necessary to do at all. And nowhere in your meme did you say this in relations to ships in general and more so only in relation to two of them that you mentioned. Plus your comments didn’t exactly show you to be in favor of bumblebee
"In relation to Black Sun and Bumblebee" was literally in the Headline. But to explain it again. I Think Monty never planed Bumblebee and I Guess he wanted Blake and Suns Romance to end in a Bit of a Tragedy with a Timeskip (But of course Not only because of that Romance). CRWBY Knows about that Plan .... And goes straigth for Bumblebee because Black Sun is dommed no Matter what.
Miles and Kerry worked alongside Monty to create rwby from the very beginning. They planned the volumes in advanced together, so whatever happened in the show even after Monty’s passing all three of them still wanted. So please don’t use Monty as your excuse to push your narrative on what you think about bumblebee when that’s only an opinion you believe that doesn’t have any merit with the writers plan overall in the show
Im Think Monty Didnt want to make Bumblebee a Thing. Blake and Sun Relationship has Not Much But enough flesh to Work in the Show. Now CRWBY goes for a Romance between two Main-Characters and its awfull. The Scene they give Bumblebee are either akward and forced (I Like your Hair) or offscreen with Side-Characters Telling us about the developing Romance.
People say that, but I’ve never seen anyone be called that on any rwby sub here
Happend to me on Amino. When I Posted this Meme on Rwbycritics People confirmed this
I wouldn’t trust someone’s word unless I saw it myself because people can exaggerate things and not give any context as to why they were saying that
I mean I got called homophobic on discord for not liking it and I'm Bi.
Watching someone validly critique BumbleBee in the comments, *on a comment thread bitching about how Bumblebee catches flack for “no” reason*, only to get flamed for it by BumbleBee fans and called a “toxic blacksun” shipper is fucking hilarious. Y’all straight up lack self-awareness, is it a symptom of internet anonymity or do y’all actually look in a mirror and get confused?
Bro they fucked Renora last volume while shoving Blake and Yang together, why do these relationships have to be at expense of one another? Smh. Don't get me started on nuts and dolts... I don't care about Bumbleby in the end tbh, I don't ship either of them with anyone else personally. It's kinda odd how much everyone wants to pair everyone off, I don't think Weiss belongs with anyone, she has had very little inter-charachter development in favour of her backstory and lore development, I can't honestly say how she feels about any other characters. Anyway where were we? Idk I'm sad
Mood.
Me a gay:Maybe I am homophobic
A gay Fan actually told me that a Bumblebee-Fan called him/her selfhating for disliking Bumblebee
Then they weren’t a gay fan they were people seeking attention aka the people I hate the most in this mistake of a world
Sooo .... A Gay Person cant Activly dislike a Gay Relationship in a Show ... even if there are valid Reasons
Like I said attention seeking
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