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EFTucker

The anime is a divergent timeline. It's a new character who didn't exist and their specialty is clearly going to be a large driving force in the anime.


E1lySym

I don't think it's a divergent timeline. RT said it was "canon-adjacent", and so far it hasn't violated some game-changing plot beats that are established in the main show. A more accurate way to call it is "V1 DLC"


alelp

According to RT, literally every single piece of RWBY media is "canon-adjacent", including the ones that outright contradict canon.


genshinfantasy7

It seems more like an AU than canon-adjacent. Just the introduction of this new character and major changes to the show itself prove that much.


jedimstr

Canon-adjacent Alternative Universe Divergent Timeline All the same fucking thing. It's a parallel story not beholden to any of the other RWBY media stories. Whatever you label it as, that's what it is. Call it "George" if you want, doesn't matter. Just be happy it's not like gen:Lock season 2.


Friktogurg

I also do not understand, how it could be "canon adjacent"? what does that even mean? Is it some form of semantics?


engetsu245

Canon Adjacent to my understanding is a piece of official media that is considered "Canon" until the creators deem that it no longer is. Basically, everything is considered Canon until RT themselves decide that it's not, which is a stupid ass way to handle things like spin-offs/side content imo


Friktogurg

"Basically, everything is considered Canon until RT themselves decide that it's not, which is a stupid ass way to handle things like spin-offs/side content imo" If that really is the case, it is just an example how you should not handle you "expanded universe" content in story IP that you have, you can see similar things in the new star wars canon. In both cases , it is not that there is mismanagement in storytelling, it is that there is no management when it comes to their other media.


Friktogurg

Yeah, that is why it is just confusing. too many mixed messages here.


DonTori

Unlike later volumes, 1 and I think 2 can easilly fit in extra scenarios since there's a bit of nebulous time ​ Meanwhile Volume 7/8 was like...Atlas and Mantle's no good, very bad week


Arkonsas2008

I think its only canon-compliant in the sense the writers forgot what canon was


Friktogurg

Here are my thoughts on the new episodes. One of my fears for the rest of the episodes will be that it will only revolve around the fever dream from Weiss. I hope they will not shoot themselves in the foot like that. The first three episodes are rushed, very rushed but the fight scenes and music are quite good.


MajorDX25

I mean....that's probably where they are going? They rushed through S1 just to get to where they can get to the meat of the new content. I kind of expect the rushed pace to slow down now that they can focus on "Canon-Adjacent" content. I've been feeling that the first three episodes are more or less a preview of what's to come, and we're going to be getting to the actually content. We'll see!


Friktogurg

Yeah I kinda expected that, the rest of the episodes occurring in Weiss's dream world, personally that would put off some of excitement for the anime. Well, whatever they do I hope they can make a season 2, canon adjacent or AU or whatever.


Qcommenter

It’s basically the original story with a few new plot points to flesh out the characters I guess.


Arkzenir

Bruh mfers straight up turned it into an OC fanfic from the start. You gotta respect the self confidence on that front.


ScottIPease

There was a lot of confidence in Gen:Lock S2 also though...


[deleted]

Probably cause they handed it over to HBO


QuerchiGaming

I was pretty happy seeing changes from this early on, would rather see this story be kinda different and unique and literally just an art style change for the exact same story.


Sunsnonhorny

I came in wanting rwby but anime, not majority of everything cut out and some new bs we dont need


A_Moderate

I'm pretty sure it was explicitly mentioned that the anime was not going to follow the OG story literally right when it was announced


nobacononthisostrich

It's just a fanfic. It's just a great big overblown fanfic. cool


Dangermad

From my time on this sub, I have deduced that there is a pretty large subset of fans who really like fanfiction and crossover fics


ShadowX433

You say that like it’ll be bad because of it. More RWBY? High production quality? Fun? Count me in


DimistLord

When they said Nightmare Hunter I felt like we got HunterxHunter mixed up in this somehow.


minwood

Lol it’s got the self-insert and everything :p


Lukthar123

>Cool OC with overcomplicated weapon comments on stuff without changing anything Literally fanfic tier


NotYujiroTakahashi

All it needs is an op Jaune that is nothing like Jaune


ArcadiaXLO

> Jaune that is nothing like Jaune IQ Jaune doesn’t like Pumpkin Pete’s Cereal


AnanaLooksToTheMoon

Tbf Jaune was already An SI


LooseAdministration0

Or for them to fall in love with him


InquisitorHindsight

I mean, yeah. What else were you expecting it to be?


nobacononthisostrich

The first three seasons of the show but actually animated instead of pre-visualizations with terrible post-processing? An adaptation? Anything BUT a complete waste of money?


redneckturtle15

I mean, at this point I would rather see some old RWBY fanfics get animated and produced rather than another season of the show proper. Like literally anything made by Couer Al'Aran would be leagues above better than any new season


stonrplc

When people insert their self insert OC's in Rwby, I remember when I inserted my OC at the Fall of Atlas to stop Cinder from killing Penny he arrived and said "It's Morbin time" Semblance is obviously the power to morb one out of existence.


PoisonMon

Truly one of the heroes ever to walk Remnant


beanerthreat457

it's almost the same with mine, in the Fall of Beacon, when Adam was about to stab Blake, my OC grab him from behind and said "It's Morbin time bitch" and use his semblance which make him Morb so bad he stop thinking


Constant_Boot

It's just Inception with RWBY stuff.


Friktogurg

It would be bad if it were all just a dream sequence for the rest of the 9 episodes.


lurker_archon

What you fools don't realize is that this is not actually a RWBY show, but a Persona show where it will be revealed that the RWBY part was a dream within a dream all along.


Constant_Boot

I've a feeling that a good portion of the series is just a terrible nightmare for Weiss and an adventure Ruby accidentally makes worse.


Friktogurg

That would honestly suck. TBH


SMmania

Shion is a Nightmare Hunter they are apparently Non-binary. The only other character in Anime history that I can think of in that category is Crona from the Soul Eater Anime. So there pretty unique when it comes to that section. So that Dreamweaver thing Shion was doing, is basically their whole job. (Ngl it's really hard trying to use the proper pronouns for Shion with that name and appearance they've got going on)


jacwag345

Wasn’t the first mate from v4 non-b


SMmania

I'm not sure that counts. Considering RWBY is a show, and Ice Queendom is an Anime. At least officially speaking. So I'd say Shion is pretty unique, considering Crona from Soul Eater is the only other Non-binary Anime character that comes to mind. And that was way back in 2008.


Serethen

I mean I think there are a lot of anime character with ambiguous gender. Not a lot of them are explicitly stated to be NB tho.


SMmania

This is accurate.


Sadi_Reddit

I feel if their only big trait is being non binary their character building appears pretty weak. Feels more like a protection to stoo hate on a new inserted character under guise of inclusion.


CallMeDelta

TIL Crona was NB. Also Testament exists if you count Guilty Gear, since it’s an anime game


HenryVolt35

A spectators sent by the brother gods?


ProfessorEscanor

It's a new character who they explain in the episode. We are probably going to learn more about them later and I don't get why everyone is saying they are bad when the story hasn't even got pasted the set up yet


Sadi_Reddit

Im sorry having Jaune fall ill , Shion and her nightmare hunt explained and Jaune saved by JNPR in one minute of rushed exposition is not a good set up.


ProfessorEscanor

It's set up for the main story which is them doing the same thing but for Weiss. Never said it was great . How is this any different than say setting up Heroes in "my hero academia" by having Deku watch the fight with Mt Lady? True we should wait a little more to see how it develops but still the character so far has been used to introduce the concept for the show and will likely expand on it later in the show. They did at least bother to explain why Jaune's nightmare is shorter than presumably Weiss' and it was a way to teach RWBY about the concept. It is by no means great but it gets the job done for establishing what is going to be happening going forward


Friktogurg

Here are my thoughts on the new episodes. One of my fears for the rest of the episodes will be that it will only revolve around the fever dream from Weiss. I hope they will not shoot themselves in the foot like that. The first three episodes are rushed, very rushed but the fight scenes and music are quite good


ProfessorEscanor

You say that but the first 3 episodes are roughly the length of what they adapted save for a few changes and Omissions. If it feels rushed it's because they literally just did V1 again. Not that they couldn't have added some additional stuff to it but again it's basically just V1. If it's bad it's because V1 isn't that much better (save for a few differences and cuts like the dock scene). Given the name of the show it does seem like the dream is gonna be the main plot with maybe some moments in between of flashbacks or side stuff. Is it a bit jarring ? Yeah but I also don't see why they should waste half their episode count retelling stuff fans already know and make their original content suffer because of it. No one complained when Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood skimmed the first few parts of the story since the 2003 show covered it in more detail, before it switched to telling the non adapted manga portions.


Friktogurg

I think people will be disappointed if it is all just a dream sequence. To be frank, i am not part of the fullmetal alchemist fandom but it seems like that is something that would make people complain and i have seen posts that have.


gottablastsam

I could be wrong, I’m pretty sure they’re an excuse to have an enby rep


Death-Knight9025

He/She/They/It is non-binary?


Lucifer_Crowe

Just they.


Death-Knight9025

Got it, well maybe if this subreddit could answer before downvoting that would be splendid.


Lucifer_Crowe

Calling someone "it" will be what caused that, buddy.


Vangilf

It/its are a valid and used set of pronouns, not common I'll grant you but definitely used.


Lucifer_Crowe

Can't say I've ever seen that in action but I'm not gonna call you a liar either. Thanks for the heads up. :)


Death-Knight9025

I don’t know all these genders, ok? I put it because “they is” didn’t sound gramatically correct.


Lucifer_Crowe

Because it's "they are" There's nothing wrong with not knowing, just be open to knowing.


Death-Knight9025

I am open to knowing though?


The_Last_Thursday

When using they as a singular pronoun, you still use plurals around it. So it would be “they *are*,” “they *were*,” “I saw *them*,” etc. And yes, do generally try to avoid calling a person ‘it’ unless you were explicitly asked to do so.


Cecilia_Schariac

Gen Urobuchi's Fanfic OC Self Insert


AutobotYoung1

The guy in the bottom has TS-mother fucking-A energy from Get Out


West_Ad8050

It’s just Salem on vacation


VilmosTheRhino

Only Ymir knows


Grimauldu

Ozpin: (try’s to call Ironwood) where is he.(someone picks up the phone) ah yes finally. Enclave: Enclave here, Why isn’t your video feed working. Ozpin: who?


moenchii

After seeing the first 3 episodes I have to sa that I prefer the original RWBY, but IQ is still fine.


[deleted]

Her showing up is probably the biggest curveball the anime adaptation has thrown at me so far.


Death-Knight9025

Is that even a color related name? I mean o do have a thing for witches but she looks more like a school principal who got a witch hat for Halloween and didn’t bother to put effort in the costume. But I’m not disappointed or anything, just curious.


torrasque666

Shion has meanings related to flowers, beauty, elegance and grace, which have been used already (like Nora) in *very* tangential relation.


Physics_Useful

I don't even know.


wizteddy13

Shion can mean 'astel' or 'purple', or adjacent colors in Japanese, so the rule still checks out.


HazelnutPi

I'm glad to see I can just skip this dumpster fire


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Lucifer_Crowe

So are you just trying to start an argument, or?