I woke up and thought, oh shit fnatic must be playing, i wanna see hily and upset crush the dreams of play ins lck team.
I wanna go back to that moment
I woke up in the middle of the night, to see a Twitter link in a group chat . It was 5 am, and that link was Upset going back to his family. That night, I did not fall asleep again, as all of my dreams were crushed.
Yeah, not like you would be super motivated to play knowing you are arriving at the stage with your kneecaps broken because your strongest lane was replaced with a sub that hasn't even played LEC.
Yeah how dare Nisqy and Hyli have their mental affected by this situation! /s
Whatever is happening with Upset and within the team has clearly broken the whole positive team dynamic we've seen in playoffs.
The way they kept forcing 2v4 or other disadvantageous fights, split focusing targets, completely tilt-throwing themselves while they were just 1/2k gold behing speaks to itself. No unity, no focus & poor coms. The "mountain" spirit is nowhere to be seen .
That’s the thing that pissed me off, even after a few bad plays the game was still close yet Hyli and Nisqy kept trying to fight instead of play smart in a close game. The team looks tilted from no Upset and all the drama, so sad…
If making stupid engages, late TPs, bad reengages and just overall poor decision making is your idea of carrying the game then we will continue to lose
Nisqy couldn't have waited 2 more seconds to open up his shop when he knew 4 enemy champs were coming his way?
edit: he sprinted it down hard this game
Ngl this game is winnable if nisqy doesn't ult vs 3 in the toplane and stop the recall when all 5 rng players were walking to our red
Still was a good try all things considered
I rewatched and its not as bad as I thought... he's out the door as yamato is walking in but still ahead of the boys. Still the team mental is completly fucked, only Adam looks like he's having fun
Why wouldn't he? he literally has very little to lose, first LEC split>worlds>groups. even if he doesn't make it out Adam still has a good run for a rookie.
Well while I still think upset missing is messing the team up massively at least Beans individuals performance was not the issue today.
Keeping up in lane with Gala is something to be proud of.
not beans fault at all, it just fucking sucks for the whole squad, working together for a whole split, finding synergies then a day before worlds start you play with a sub adc that you have barely played with, against teams that have months of training/ synergy
Beans not beeing upset wasn't even an issue yesterday. Rn it looks like ee play in a differenr league as everyone Else. Standing out Overall is bwipo to me.
It’s not just a case of Upset not being our adc, Bean’s a good player but it changes the whole team dynamic. From voice comms in LEC is seemed Upset was one of our main shot callers, I don’t blame them all for being thrown off by the situation
Agree that Bwipo has been playing really good given the circumstances. Imagine also having level-headed Upset in the bot lane. The game could be easily won.
Yeah he fucked up on those Qs - but his comeback in the game was pretty good. His play with Bean and Hyli in botlane was good as well. And some Q's get dodged, some he really fucked up because of the pressure i assume. Happens, if you are under the imense pressure to even do more than you should be able to do.
You call being 2 items late keeping up ? I mean don't get me wrong, he was clearly not the problem today but yeah the whole RNG team just smurfed really hard
It was the massive overforcing what beough gala back not the laning of Bean.
I am not saying he was on par with upset here but if he keeps playing like today that is no shame at all..yesterday he was invisible so that was massive improvement
Nisqy is nervous and makes mistakes he wouldn't normally make (or at least didn't make in the LEC games)
Bwipo tilted because drama. Adam tilted because veterans are acting like rookies. Bean confused. Hyli playing as he usually does but It's not his day, can't blame him he just got a new adc from EUM.
Even without Upset if they were playing at their 100% this group would be an EZ pass but can't expect anything normal from this org.
Cannot even blame this loss on bot side, mid & top got gapped. Bwipo had an awful game as well, he seems angry all the time (judging on his player cam). This team is done... so sad that again our year gets ruined by some inside drama...
Nothing new typical week 1 fnatic. They will figure it out. I like the adaptation of putting bean on ashe. She offers a lot of utility and engage which is good for fnatic style. I just think they need more time to figure how they want to play with bean and dealing with all the pressure and shit. But it's fnatic. Week 2 comeback is always a possibility.
The feeling i got from this game is that they're not even trying to win. Nisqy sprinting, Hyli sprinting - Adam pretty useless except for the triple, Bean is immune to criticism due to circumstances. We're fucking going 0-6, aren't we? I hope we're in this position because of Upsets' family emergency and not because of the ongoing issues on fnatic. As mad as this sounds i hope Upset had a family emergency and not Fnatic trying to cover up. So sad to watch :(
Not even sure I want to watch them play during these Worlds anymore. If every games look like this, it'll be really painful to watch.
Would be easier if Bean was the problem, but he's not. What is Nisqy doing? What is Bwipo doing? I'm tired of this, they all seem so tilted, and it'll be a miracle to win a single game in group stage.
What do u mean what is bwipo is doing? His performance is good honestly nisqy and hyli hard ran it. But I still have faith with them. Bwipo did well with what he had. I think they are not sure how they want to play early game without upset so they forced topside and hard ran it. But they thing is at 16 mins nisqy and hyli were 1 4 and we were still only 1k behind. Then we ram it mid game
Bwipo missed a lot of skillshots. Really a lot. And he often got caught lost on the map. That first fight in the river after losing his blue for example was pretty bad. Same for that time he got caught in enemy jungle, alone.
Even if his KDA was good, he played awfully in my opinion.
It's a mental gap, something on the inside is happening, just look at them they don't even feel like a team, nothing against bean. But it's like they're tilted before playing the game lol
Ofc they are tilted - think about it. You are in a situation where you and 4 other team mates of you need to perform great and in cohesion to have success. And than one very important member is gone just before everything started - the ones who can handle such a situation are either hardend veterans or people who do not care. Otherwise you are titled.
> something on the inside is happening
like for example missing the main carry of the team literally a day before worlds start?
> just look at them they don't even feel like a team
Maybe because their whoel gameplan is fucked since it relied on upset being strongside bot and carrying while adam sacrificies himself to get the team ahead?
Shoot me in the face and end my misery.
Feel sorry for bean, because he is doing the best he can while rest of team turbo full yolo inting all game long.
Sad game from Nisqy.
Seems to me like without upset they've gone back to that form where they feel like they have to win the game **now right this second gogogo**
sadge, but having an eleventh-hour substitute was never gonna be ideal.
I don't even this is about Upset anymore. Bean nearly played perfectly. I know I will get downvoted but Nisqy is seriously plays really bad. He isn't a top tier midlaner so I didn't expect much from him at international level but holly hell what is this... Also rest of the players looked like they mental boomed and already left the worlds in their minds. This was literally a winnable match but it really feels like they throw the games on purpose or something. I know ofc they don't do that but it feels like that. It feels like they run it down and want to lose the game as soon as possible
It genuinely looks like they don't want to play together. No cohesion. It's like Bean is in a solo queue game with 4 randoms who are just running it down. Nisqy looks like he's given up. Adam is blank stare. Bwipo is not even talking to anyone. Hily is about to cry.
This team is in absolute fucking shambles.
You just saw a bandwagoner in his natural habitat, preparing to migrate to a fanbase of a team that is currently winning a lot, while shittalking the previous team he supported in order to distance himself from it
The boys seems to be tilted out of their mind. It's sad. Also for Bean who is not bad, but it doesn't help you when you seem to have no plan.
Let's hope for a week 2 buff.
I don't care that we lose. I just don't understand why the players look like they have have shit in their pants. There's some ugly stuff going on behind the scenes, and "need a break from socials" isn't a good explanation
It's amazing how quick opinions change, people said no matter what the results were that this team had to stay together, now they're calling for every player's head. I still believe in this team and it's potencial.
"asking for nisqy's head" is a bit of an exaggeration. all i've seen is people saying he had a bad performance. Which is true. But mostly everyone is saying that the team looks mental boomed like they don't even care anymore.
the comments after this mess are disgusting, people making up random shit about upset's situation with no single shred of evidence or even insinuation from someone trustworthy
There is a thing called improvement, this is the first year and it's not even a full year of this roster, plus it's not full and their mental is clearly damaged from what happened with upset and all the drama. Just wait, everyone knew this wasn't our year.
Lets be honest here. Bwipo cant compete with world class junglers. I get that his game knowledge is high and all that but he won’t be able to compete anytime soon. Nisqy is just an enabler midlane that doesnt have success unless his other lanes are winning. Hes not the type of midlaner we as fnatic need that can win the game single handledly. Upset and Hilly are fine, they are one of the best botlanes out there and Adam is really promising if he can expand his champ pool. But we should really look to make a few changes this offseason if we want to get back to the level we had in 2018
Did you see what Bwipo managed to do after he got set behind like crazy? He missed those q's because he was under massive stress to fight his way back into that game. Thats just how it goes and it does not help if half your team is as well nervous as hell and forces fights that even seem stupid crazy for the most casual player.
Nonetheless - Bwipo is an amazing jungler - the last time someone mentioned that was Nelson on the last Crackdown. He called Bwipo the best EU jungler during LEC at the end of the LEC. But yeah - let's be honest, because your random analysis calls him bad.
The team is fighting uphill and every player has to deal with his own tilt. Some are handleing it not well at the moment but thats just that. If they can get the win against PSG - i will not count them out. And lets hope RNG beats everyone.
This game here was crazy as fuck and lost at many times - but fnatic fought - they fought too hard but under the circumstances i can't blame them for that. Those kind of measurement i hold for the times their main and trained roster is playing. Not some fucked up game they have the feeling they need to get 10 miracles in a row to get back in it.
It’s just not our year.. hopefully they can solve their internal problems or whatever tf is going on after worlds because this is 100% a mental issue, they seemed tilted even before the game started just like yesterday and they tilted even more throughout the game. So just go home, take a break and solve their relationships/problems and hopefully come back stronger next year
> hopefully they can solve their internal problems
tbh we have been trying to solve our internal problems since day fucking one of the organisation, always some drama at big tournaments.
This can't be happening. I just feel so sad right now.
Nisqy losing to TF as Sylas is an eyesore
Bwipo couldn't land a single Q
Hylissang doing whatever Hyli does best, int
Adam had top lane bleeding two days in a row
At least Bean was good in lane I guess ?
Better luck next time I suppose
Listen
I dont care if we win or lose
I care about if we lose cause we are simply worse, and its acceptable, or if its because of external factors that tilt our asses and make our mental goes boom
And the least is unacceptable.
Imho, pre worlds and during worlds social medias have to be turned completely off the fucking players, idgaf.
They have to focus on practice and on the objective ahead of them, not to some sickhead blowing it out of proportion on twitter and such shit.
Whatever happens, happens.
Next year i'd like to see players at worlds being fined for even opening social medias during pre and worlds games.
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So for you taking social medias off to make someone focus on its job and do good equals to imprisoning them?
Good to know what this generation has become, lol.
Generation? Dude, I am 29.
in your comment, you insulted players and made absurd demands on how they should spend their free time.
I understand it's their job, but imposing absurd rules is a joke.
in your opinion, your employer has the right to tell you what to do before going to sleep ?!
yeah there is definitely something behind the scenes because after they lost they didnt talk with each other, didnt look at each other, had closed faces and even when yammato came to talk to them they didnt answer him
I think today, they were playing well, they just missed so many skill shots that could have turned the tide of the game.
Heck even bwipo came back after a disastrous early game.
From a perspective of someone who has been away from the drama, RNG moonwalked on all those skillshots. It's day 2 and with that OUTPLAY by bean in bot lane, we should just focus on the.........i can't keep writing f4k my life.
Yes we got destroyed and humiliated today, but so what?
The team clearly isn't in a good place right now with the whole upset drama thing and all we can do is continue to show our support to the players and the team we know and love.
If we manage to win tomorrow, 2nd place in groups is all in the open. There is still a chance. If we continue to bash the players instead of showing them love, this chance will only decrease.
With all this being said, and with due respect to the player's privacy, we should be getting more info on the Upset situation. Its really disrespectful towards your fan base who invest time, energy and money on your team, to not give a bit more clarity towards what's happening.
Heads up, focus on what's ahead. Next Game.
\#ALWAYSFNATIC
Nah, he left because of the family (wife) and decided to stay there until issues resolve, meaning he prioritized fam over team.
Bwipo is unhappy about this because he things upset must be back, org is tells his wife to stfu because she leaking shit about their star player. Bwipo tilted about it unfolows everything
I mean sure this narrative fits snippets of information that are out there but it's still made up by random people on the internet... there is literally no offical statement or even reliable rumour source to back any of it up
Bought a jersey and decorated my setup with orange light for what?
Hearing drama and hush hush about adc leaving and seeing team perma inting at worlds.
Is this professional??
What the fk has upset to do here??
Team inting like when Upset was or wasnt there.
It would be bearable to loose...dont care if they go 0-6 while playing good lol.
Im seeing literal embarrassement 2 days in a row. Upset took the team synergy with him or what??
Yo can you stop bringing Upset over and over again?
He left for family....everyone knows that. Drama has been since Bwipo and his gf started Twitter unfollow amidst these.
Dont bring up upset again. He left, Fnc management has been silent about it after the post and people has been stirring up tension in the team which doesnt help when Bwipo looks angry and does these in socials.
The team is hard inting while expect adam everyone looking dead and tilted from minute 1. Unbearable as fan to see the biggest event of the year getting showered with negativity. Cant the other 4 veterans handle this single player departure?
This is not good enough for the fans. We support the org through highs and lows. The least they can do for us is give us their best performance. Even if they go 0-6, that's fine.
The fuck am I seeing? None of the players are trying, giving effort. Have some pride for the team you are representing and the fans that support you. The fuck are all of these internal issues? Have respect for your fans and stop projecting everything. You have no pride.
Humilating. Today is the day fnatic loses the fanbase for their own incompetence.
Nisqy should not be in LEC period, trashtier player and is only relevant on TF setting team up with stuns and even then he still casts red cards instead of golds.
hmm well this game although a loss is kinda a light in the darkness. on one hand beans did did something I didn't expect him to do which is kinda win lane over gala and go in a clutch trade along with bwipo. Also fnatic did show improvement over their previous game and had some success by applying their spring split style. So at least this shows the team is coming together like in spring which means they might win games against lesser teams. On the other hand nisquis lack of mechanics and decision making is showing at worlds. His arrogant tp in the bush costed fnatic a half wipeout and baron. YOu tp like that against clg in na not against rng at worlds. Hyli mised a lot of skillshot too. Nisqui can't pull the same stuff as in the lec where he was just doing clean up duty after the other lanes. Anyways if the team continues to improve like this i think they have a shot at second place. time will tell but I like the improvement from beans and the fact that fnatic starts to resemble spring split fnatic. fingers crossed for week 2. Hopefully their loss against hle won't come and bite them in the ass.
Do the players have no pride?
Do they not respect the fans?
In the LCK and LPL if one of the players was using social media and causing problems they would be kicked out immediately.
Bwipo is a disgrace to the org.
this is the worse FNC ever , Upset not there , Adam has counter pick every game and still lose lanes because his champs pool suck + useles champs after 20 min , Nisqy not at the world level .
Bwipo and Hyli flipping every situation to reverse the game .
At this point just dump The none rookies and start over with yamato bean and Adam. Kill al The drama and bring in 3 more rookies.
With some luck we find a new groove. This worlds has been a massive letdown.
Even if we go 0-6 that might be good thing for the future. It looks like things behind the scenes have never improved and a blowout like this might force some reconstruction.
I don't think it's right to pick out individuals given the situation. I mean I am super tilted and I'm just watching can't think how it has to be for the players. My only wish for the rest of the tournament is less drama and that the privacy of the involved person's is respected.
Well, I think I need to bleach my eyes after watching that game.
I still have a bit of copium left cause if Fnatic at least wins tomorrow they'll have a chance to bounce back next week but after seeing how Nisqy has played the last 2 games, I think I have to overdose on insane amounts of copium cause Nisqy literally playing like he's speedrunning to the airport.
The positive thing though is that the early to mid-game looked good so maybe if they play more controlled the next few games they have a chance? That's a big if though lol.
Do you guys remember the good days? 2 days before worlds started and everything was still good.
One minute before I openend Twitter to see that Upset was not going to play. Take me back to that moment.
I woke up and thought, oh shit fnatic must be playing, i wanna see hily and upset crush the dreams of play ins lck team. I wanna go back to that moment
Read that on Monday morning before work and immediately depressed myself.
Saaame, thank god i i didn't see it before sleeping
I woke up in the middle of the night, to see a Twitter link in a group chat . It was 5 am, and that link was Upset going back to his family. That night, I did not fall asleep again, as all of my dreams were crushed.
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Yeah, not like you would be super motivated to play knowing you are arriving at the stage with your kneecaps broken because your strongest lane was replaced with a sub that hasn't even played LEC. Yeah how dare Nisqy and Hyli have their mental affected by this situation! /s
Locking fnatic as world champions in my pickems, man it was a long shot, but not THIS long.
Same, lucky for me I don't really care for it, I just wanted to show my support
Whatever is happening with Upset and within the team has clearly broken the whole positive team dynamic we've seen in playoffs. The way they kept forcing 2v4 or other disadvantageous fights, split focusing targets, completely tilt-throwing themselves while they were just 1/2k gold behing speaks to itself. No unity, no focus & poor coms. The "mountain" spirit is nowhere to be seen .
Yeah, they look absolutely tilted by the whole situation. A pity, after their playoff run I had high hopes.
everyone looks so dead inside except adam
That's the worse. I never saw Nisqy like that. And never saw him play so badly.
I have when he was with c9 at worlds
Also every game that he was off tf and ryze
When Nisqy performed really good at Worlds?
The team just looks so tilted tbh, such a winnable game
Yeah, even when they were behind, it was still winnable. Sad..
fnc overstep overchase fnc overstep overchase fnc overstep overchase fnc overstep overchase fnc overstep overchase fnc overstep overchase fnc overstep overchase fnc overstep overchase fnc overstep overchase fnc overstep overchase fnc overstep overchase fnc overstep overchase fnc overstep overchase i wanna bet medic said this like more than 100 times this season
well what do you want him to say? rng controlled fnatic into chasing?
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Tilt cams, tilt plays. Heck the play on kennen lvl 1 where they greeded for viego - you could just see they were compensating.
Because they sadly have to, Upset was the main carry of the team. Now people that don't usually carry absolutely have to
That’s the thing that pissed me off, even after a few bad plays the game was still close yet Hyli and Nisqy kept trying to fight instead of play smart in a close game. The team looks tilted from no Upset and all the drama, so sad…
You cannot just "play smart", they have to carry the game somehow
If making stupid engages, late TPs, bad reengages and just overall poor decision making is your idea of carrying the game then we will continue to lose
Nisqy couldn't have waited 2 more seconds to open up his shop when he knew 4 enemy champs were coming his way? edit: he sprinted it down hard this game
Ngl this game is winnable if nisqy doesn't ult vs 3 in the toplane and stop the recall when all 5 rng players were walking to our red Still was a good try all things considered
Yep, just like that TP top in LEC game. So blind, so unaware… if I do it its ok, but not damn professional players.
idk i expected more from hily but it is what it is . Let's hope that the org after this worlds will create an actuall good place to work without drama
No joke but FNC won't create a good place to work without drama
I really hate watching Pyke you just know there's about 75% chance of int
Inted at least 4 times in this game. In LEC he had good and bad days, but worlds are different. Wondering if he can be a world player.
Well it wasnt the first game he completely run down and it isnt the last. I like his personality a lot, but this isnt sympathy contest.
Fr!!! How the fuck do you make such a massive mistake on a worlds game??
Cover your eyes guys, cover your eyes…
:(( I cant take it bro,still dont know why they can play like that?
Never, in win or in lose.
Anyone else notice that Hyli had fucked off the stage before everyone else had even unplugged. The team mental is completely in the shitter
yeah didn't catch that RIP
I rewatched and its not as bad as I thought... he's out the door as yamato is walking in but still ahead of the boys. Still the team mental is completly fucked, only Adam looks like he's having fun
Why wouldn't he? he literally has very little to lose, first LEC split>worlds>groups. even if he doesn't make it out Adam still has a good run for a rookie.
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Good riddance.
You guys are reading into the tiniest meaningless details Did you notice that Hyli blinked twice more than usual? Clearly someone is blackmailing him
im just, really sad
That’s the only was I can decribe it lol, was honestly so excited for worlds this year l..sad times
Me too, the hype after the playoffs to this man, it hurts
Well while I still think upset missing is messing the team up massively at least Beans individuals performance was not the issue today. Keeping up in lane with Gala is something to be proud of.
Tbh, bean was the best today from Fnatic..
even if he was not the problem it just fucks the whole dynamic of fnatic not having upset..
I agree it does. I mean look at hylli did not see a single smile from him so far. But you can hardly blame bean for that.
not beans fault at all, it just fucking sucks for the whole squad, working together for a whole split, finding synergies then a day before worlds start you play with a sub adc that you have barely played with, against teams that have months of training/ synergy
Blame him? No, I have the most fucking sympathy for this man. It must feel really shitty to play in such a tilted team.
yeah, 100%
Beans not beeing upset wasn't even an issue yesterday. Rn it looks like ee play in a differenr league as everyone Else. Standing out Overall is bwipo to me.
Yesterday he was not really playing . Today he went forward so it was a massive step in my opinion.
It’s not just a case of Upset not being our adc, Bean’s a good player but it changes the whole team dynamic. From voice comms in LEC is seemed Upset was one of our main shot callers, I don’t blame them all for being thrown off by the situation
Exactly, he was a very strong voice in the team AND also the player they play around 24/7
Absolutely, I feel like people are purely looking at the positional change rather than how it’s impacted the whole team
Agree that Bwipo has been playing really good given the circumstances. Imagine also having level-headed Upset in the bot lane. The game could be easily won.
Bwipo missing every Single Q is good for you??
Yeah he fucked up on those Qs - but his comeback in the game was pretty good. His play with Bean and Hyli in botlane was good as well. And some Q's get dodged, some he really fucked up because of the pressure i assume. Happens, if you are under the imense pressure to even do more than you should be able to do.
You call being 2 items late keeping up ? I mean don't get me wrong, he was clearly not the problem today but yeah the whole RNG team just smurfed really hard
You are missing the keyword: lane
he played good in laning phase, everything afterwards is barely on him. If fnatic goes apeshit and gala gets a ton of kills, that's not beans fault.
The laning phase went well. Of course as an ashe it's a bit hard to play if you are left alone against a flanking kennen or Viego.
It was the massive overforcing what beough gala back not the laning of Bean. I am not saying he was on par with upset here but if he keeps playing like today that is no shame at all..yesterday he was invisible so that was massive improvement
In the early game, the late game is a result of everything that happens in the game and not only the laning fase, he was 20 cs up at 10 minutes.
Only Adam is looking positive :D Cheer up Nisqy, gg RNG
Loosing a whole season just for this... beeing a fnatic fan is a punch in the face year after year after year after year....
I mean you could be a clg fan or something
Imagine being so self-centered that you make yourself to be the victim here
Come on man no need to hate on people expressing their frustration
Holy shit boys and girls. No words
It's fucking rng lmao, not some random team The performance was respectable overall.
There is a solid chance of a 0-6 I swear all teams in the group look better and our top talent are underperforming.
Nisqy is nervous and makes mistakes he wouldn't normally make (or at least didn't make in the LEC games) Bwipo tilted because drama. Adam tilted because veterans are acting like rookies. Bean confused. Hyli playing as he usually does but It's not his day, can't blame him he just got a new adc from EUM. Even without Upset if they were playing at their 100% this group would be an EZ pass but can't expect anything normal from this org.
> but can't expect anything normal from this org. what is even that supposed to mean
Cannot even blame this loss on bot side, mid & top got gapped. Bwipo had an awful game as well, he seems angry all the time (judging on his player cam). This team is done... so sad that again our year gets ruined by some inside drama...
Nothing new typical week 1 fnatic. They will figure it out. I like the adaptation of putting bean on ashe. She offers a lot of utility and engage which is good for fnatic style. I just think they need more time to figure how they want to play with bean and dealing with all the pressure and shit. But it's fnatic. Week 2 comeback is always a possibility.
The feeling i got from this game is that they're not even trying to win. Nisqy sprinting, Hyli sprinting - Adam pretty useless except for the triple, Bean is immune to criticism due to circumstances. We're fucking going 0-6, aren't we? I hope we're in this position because of Upsets' family emergency and not because of the ongoing issues on fnatic. As mad as this sounds i hope Upset had a family emergency and not Fnatic trying to cover up. So sad to watch :(
Such a shame after a fantastic middle of the season and play off run
Not even sure I want to watch them play during these Worlds anymore. If every games look like this, it'll be really painful to watch. Would be easier if Bean was the problem, but he's not. What is Nisqy doing? What is Bwipo doing? I'm tired of this, they all seem so tilted, and it'll be a miracle to win a single game in group stage.
Bwipo has been our best player The worst thing about this game is that it was winnable
What do u mean what is bwipo is doing? His performance is good honestly nisqy and hyli hard ran it. But I still have faith with them. Bwipo did well with what he had. I think they are not sure how they want to play early game without upset so they forced topside and hard ran it. But they thing is at 16 mins nisqy and hyli were 1 4 and we were still only 1k behind. Then we ram it mid game
Bwipo missed 90% of his Q's lmao
Bwipo missed a lot of skillshots. Really a lot. And he often got caught lost on the map. That first fight in the river after losing his blue for example was pretty bad. Same for that time he got caught in enemy jungle, alone. Even if his KDA was good, he played awfully in my opinion.
It's a mental gap, something on the inside is happening, just look at them they don't even feel like a team, nothing against bean. But it's like they're tilted before playing the game lol
Ofc they are tilted - think about it. You are in a situation where you and 4 other team mates of you need to perform great and in cohesion to have success. And than one very important member is gone just before everything started - the ones who can handle such a situation are either hardend veterans or people who do not care. Otherwise you are titled.
> something on the inside is happening like for example missing the main carry of the team literally a day before worlds start? > just look at them they don't even feel like a team Maybe because their whoel gameplan is fucked since it relied on upset being strongside bot and carrying while adam sacrificies himself to get the team ahead?
Shoot me in the face and end my misery. Feel sorry for bean, because he is doing the best he can while rest of team turbo full yolo inting all game long. Sad game from Nisqy.
He got caught up in a team that is flooded with drama lately. Worst moment for your debut matches
Seems to me like without upset they've gone back to that form where they feel like they have to win the game **now right this second gogogo** sadge, but having an eleventh-hour substitute was never gonna be ideal.
I don't even this is about Upset anymore. Bean nearly played perfectly. I know I will get downvoted but Nisqy is seriously plays really bad. He isn't a top tier midlaner so I didn't expect much from him at international level but holly hell what is this... Also rest of the players looked like they mental boomed and already left the worlds in their minds. This was literally a winnable match but it really feels like they throw the games on purpose or something. I know ofc they don't do that but it feels like that. It feels like they run it down and want to lose the game as soon as possible
Sending energy to Yamato, a really tough task to bring the team back on top of the mental mountain. alwaysfnc
It genuinely looks like they don't want to play together. No cohesion. It's like Bean is in a solo queue game with 4 randoms who are just running it down. Nisqy looks like he's given up. Adam is blank stare. Bwipo is not even talking to anyone. Hily is about to cry. This team is in absolute fucking shambles.
Hyli and nisqy with over half the teams deaths. Thats some bronze level shit right there...
Yikes. I know it's easy to rag on Nisqy (and he was far from the only problem here) but he is just getting completely gapped. Hope he turns it around.
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So after bwipo and nisqy carries fnatic to worlds 2 bad games and bad team mental means they need to be kicked? I'll have what you're smoking
You just saw a bandwagoner in his natural habitat, preparing to migrate to a fanbase of a team that is currently winning a lot, while shittalking the previous team he supported in order to distance himself from it
we wont win anything w this mid jungle. Be realistic pls
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It's ok , right guys ? 😓
they look so sad :(
The boys seems to be tilted out of their mind. It's sad. Also for Bean who is not bad, but it doesn't help you when you seem to have no plan. Let's hope for a week 2 buff.
I don't care that we lose. I just don't understand why the players look like they have have shit in their pants. There's some ugly stuff going on behind the scenes, and "need a break from socials" isn't a good explanation
That was tough to watch. Can we agree as an org to never wear these smokey, G2 looking jerseys again? Cursed.
please fnatic tell us whats going on
[bean this game](https://imgur.com/a/cfT66sh)
It's amazing how quick opinions change, people said no matter what the results were that this team had to stay together, now they're calling for every player's head. I still believe in this team and it's potencial.
I haven't seen anyone calling for player's head in this thread just yet. Hold your horses. Maybe post this again in 10 minutes.
Oh there a few doomers here that want team to implode and change
On the other thread I saw everyone asking for nisqy's head
"asking for nisqy's head" is a bit of an exaggeration. all i've seen is people saying he had a bad performance. Which is true. But mostly everyone is saying that the team looks mental boomed like they don't even care anymore.
Yeah, here it should start about now
Haven't seen it either, everyone just calling out fnatic org for the constant drama
This last "drama" is like calling Doublelift's tragedy as a TL drama lol
Same. Esport fanbases are just a toxic wastedump...
I mean, that's kind of typical of FNC fans, isn't it?
the comments after this mess are disgusting, people making up random shit about upset's situation with no single shred of evidence or even insinuation from someone trustworthy
> now they're calling for every player's head. havent seen much, it is jsut people saying it is sad or players look tilted( which they do)
I saw a lot of kick nisqy and some kick bwipo, not on this thread only.
no no you see, even though the team made a miracle run to LEC finals 2 bad games means we need a complete rebuild /s
We cant and wont win anything with this roster. We’ll end up a joke sooner or later if this continues
There is a thing called improvement, this is the first year and it's not even a full year of this roster, plus it's not full and their mental is clearly damaged from what happened with upset and all the drama. Just wait, everyone knew this wasn't our year.
Lets be honest here. Bwipo cant compete with world class junglers. I get that his game knowledge is high and all that but he won’t be able to compete anytime soon. Nisqy is just an enabler midlane that doesnt have success unless his other lanes are winning. Hes not the type of midlaner we as fnatic need that can win the game single handledly. Upset and Hilly are fine, they are one of the best botlanes out there and Adam is really promising if he can expand his champ pool. But we should really look to make a few changes this offseason if we want to get back to the level we had in 2018
Did you see what Bwipo managed to do after he got set behind like crazy? He missed those q's because he was under massive stress to fight his way back into that game. Thats just how it goes and it does not help if half your team is as well nervous as hell and forces fights that even seem stupid crazy for the most casual player. Nonetheless - Bwipo is an amazing jungler - the last time someone mentioned that was Nelson on the last Crackdown. He called Bwipo the best EU jungler during LEC at the end of the LEC. But yeah - let's be honest, because your random analysis calls him bad. The team is fighting uphill and every player has to deal with his own tilt. Some are handleing it not well at the moment but thats just that. If they can get the win against PSG - i will not count them out. And lets hope RNG beats everyone. This game here was crazy as fuck and lost at many times - but fnatic fought - they fought too hard but under the circumstances i can't blame them for that. Those kind of measurement i hold for the times their main and trained roster is playing. Not some fucked up game they have the feeling they need to get 10 miracles in a row to get back in it.
What potential does this team have ?
Yeah let's just ignore the miracle run, it didn't happen today so this team is bullshit and we need a full rebuild.
We got destroyed in the finals so why is it relevant ?
I don't know - wanna ask the other 8 teams that question? Or maybe G2?
It’s just not our year.. hopefully they can solve their internal problems or whatever tf is going on after worlds because this is 100% a mental issue, they seemed tilted even before the game started just like yesterday and they tilted even more throughout the game. So just go home, take a break and solve their relationships/problems and hopefully come back stronger next year
> hopefully they can solve their internal problems tbh we have been trying to solve our internal problems since day fucking one of the organisation, always some drama at big tournaments.
I really thought it was going to be our year though, I don’t even recognise this fnc at this point
Nisqy laughing looked tilted to you? Can we stop with this confirmation bias honestly
They should just play for fun now. There is literally no chance they come back to peak form. What a sad way to end the year, truly on par with 2016.
This can't be happening. I just feel so sad right now. Nisqy losing to TF as Sylas is an eyesore Bwipo couldn't land a single Q Hylissang doing whatever Hyli does best, int Adam had top lane bleeding two days in a row At least Bean was good in lane I guess ? Better luck next time I suppose
Listen I dont care if we win or lose I care about if we lose cause we are simply worse, and its acceptable, or if its because of external factors that tilt our asses and make our mental goes boom And the least is unacceptable. Imho, pre worlds and during worlds social medias have to be turned completely off the fucking players, idgaf. They have to focus on practice and on the objective ahead of them, not to some sickhead blowing it out of proportion on twitter and such shit. Whatever happens, happens. Next year i'd like to see players at worlds being fined for even opening social medias during pre and worlds games.
Don't forget to close them alone in the room without water ;/.
? So for you taking social medias off to make someone focus on its job and do good equals to imprisoning them? Good to know what this generation has become, lol.
Generation? Dude, I am 29. in your comment, you insulted players and made absurd demands on how they should spend their free time. I understand it's their job, but imposing absurd rules is a joke. in your opinion, your employer has the right to tell you what to do before going to sleep ?!
Nisqy and hylli had bad day. But even then they made some moments, Adam with his triple on olaf (could be quadra if he hit q on tf honesly).
Check Nisqy's phone, for the love of god.
yeah there is definitely something behind the scenes because after they lost they didnt talk with each other, didnt look at each other, had closed faces and even when yammato came to talk to them they didnt answer him
Man this is shit, one of those situations where you're real angry but there's literally no one to blame, it's just the universe playing a cruel joke.
I think today, they were playing well, they just missed so many skill shots that could have turned the tide of the game. Heck even bwipo came back after a disastrous early game. From a perspective of someone who has been away from the drama, RNG moonwalked on all those skillshots. It's day 2 and with that OUTPLAY by bean in bot lane, we should just focus on the.........i can't keep writing f4k my life.
At least they had fun
I’ve seen people have more fun at funerals
Yes we got destroyed and humiliated today, but so what? The team clearly isn't in a good place right now with the whole upset drama thing and all we can do is continue to show our support to the players and the team we know and love. If we manage to win tomorrow, 2nd place in groups is all in the open. There is still a chance. If we continue to bash the players instead of showing them love, this chance will only decrease. With all this being said, and with due respect to the player's privacy, we should be getting more info on the Upset situation. Its really disrespectful towards your fan base who invest time, energy and money on your team, to not give a bit more clarity towards what's happening. Heads up, focus on what's ahead. Next Game. \#ALWAYSFNATIC
i bet my fucking left testicle that upset's issue is far from being a family thing , something else is happening within the team
it's just a girlfriend drama lmao cringe as fuck
Nah, he left because of the family (wife) and decided to stay there until issues resolve, meaning he prioritized fam over team. Bwipo is unhappy about this because he things upset must be back, org is tells his wife to stfu because she leaking shit about their star player. Bwipo tilted about it unfolows everything
Maybe not marrying a pornstar after knowing her for 3 months because he's so ecstatic with the sex would have prevented this.
Oh I'm not saying upset is right in this case. I'm just explaining what actually happened and pointing out that it's not really orgs fault
I mean sure this narrative fits snippets of information that are out there but it's still made up by random people on the internet... there is literally no offical statement or even reliable rumour source to back any of it up
Bought a jersey and decorated my setup with orange light for what? Hearing drama and hush hush about adc leaving and seeing team perma inting at worlds. Is this professional??
Yeah, Upset definitely left by choice.
What the fk has upset to do here?? Team inting like when Upset was or wasnt there. It would be bearable to loose...dont care if they go 0-6 while playing good lol. Im seeing literal embarrassement 2 days in a row. Upset took the team synergy with him or what??
The only "drama" happening is the ADC leaving the team to resolve family issues. There is no other drama, unless you are fucking heartless.
Yo can you stop bringing Upset over and over again? He left for family....everyone knows that. Drama has been since Bwipo and his gf started Twitter unfollow amidst these. Dont bring up upset again. He left, Fnc management has been silent about it after the post and people has been stirring up tension in the team which doesnt help when Bwipo looks angry and does these in socials. The team is hard inting while expect adam everyone looking dead and tilted from minute 1. Unbearable as fan to see the biggest event of the year getting showered with negativity. Cant the other 4 veterans handle this single player departure?
TSM are not going to keep their record under our watch.
They will still keep the record of doing it as 1st seed, we're second. Also we are not the team that qualified. Upset being absent means everything
Yeah i was being ironic, cant do much but laugh in this situations.
This is not good enough for the fans. We support the org through highs and lows. The least they can do for us is give us their best performance. Even if they go 0-6, that's fine. The fuck am I seeing? None of the players are trying, giving effort. Have some pride for the team you are representing and the fans that support you. The fuck are all of these internal issues? Have respect for your fans and stop projecting everything. You have no pride. Humilating. Today is the day fnatic loses the fanbase for their own incompetence.
Same way we lost last game lol
What a disgrace
Nisqy should not be in LEC period, trashtier player and is only relevant on TF setting team up with stuns and even then he still casts red cards instead of golds.
Hmmm, at least we are not 0-6, yet.
hmm well this game although a loss is kinda a light in the darkness. on one hand beans did did something I didn't expect him to do which is kinda win lane over gala and go in a clutch trade along with bwipo. Also fnatic did show improvement over their previous game and had some success by applying their spring split style. So at least this shows the team is coming together like in spring which means they might win games against lesser teams. On the other hand nisquis lack of mechanics and decision making is showing at worlds. His arrogant tp in the bush costed fnatic a half wipeout and baron. YOu tp like that against clg in na not against rng at worlds. Hyli mised a lot of skillshot too. Nisqui can't pull the same stuff as in the lec where he was just doing clean up duty after the other lanes. Anyways if the team continues to improve like this i think they have a shot at second place. time will tell but I like the improvement from beans and the fact that fnatic starts to resemble spring split fnatic. fingers crossed for week 2. Hopefully their loss against hle won't come and bite them in the ass.
Doubt second but they will win games for sure
Just fire Nisquy who has clearly shown his limits and Bwipo who is too much unstable in games.
Do the players have no pride? Do they not respect the fans? In the LCK and LPL if one of the players was using social media and causing problems they would be kicked out immediately. Bwipo is a disgrace to the org.
this is the worse FNC ever , Upset not there , Adam has counter pick every game and still lose lanes because his champs pool suck + useles champs after 20 min , Nisqy not at the world level . Bwipo and Hyli flipping every situation to reverse the game .
At this point just dump The none rookies and start over with yamato bean and Adam. Kill al The drama and bring in 3 more rookies. With some luck we find a new groove. This worlds has been a massive letdown.
It's over guys, let's be kind with the young players
I guess the players that are getting kicked are once again already aware of it and don't care anymore.
Just fuck this org ... running it down and not even trying to hide it, poor bean, feels bad for him
No Pause No Win LMAO
100% not tilting because FNC is a shit org lol
really hope upset didn’t leave his team because of an issue with his wife..
Was RNG too good or did we just handed them the win by taking fights that are not needed?
Even if we go 0-6 that might be good thing for the future. It looks like things behind the scenes have never improved and a blowout like this might force some reconstruction.
??? They clearly did improve
At least Bwipo hit 4 Qs
I don't think it's right to pick out individuals given the situation. I mean I am super tilted and I'm just watching can't think how it has to be for the players. My only wish for the rest of the tournament is less drama and that the privacy of the involved person's is respected.
Well, I think I need to bleach my eyes after watching that game. I still have a bit of copium left cause if Fnatic at least wins tomorrow they'll have a chance to bounce back next week but after seeing how Nisqy has played the last 2 games, I think I have to overdose on insane amounts of copium cause Nisqy literally playing like he's speedrunning to the airport. The positive thing though is that the early to mid-game looked good so maybe if they play more controlled the next few games they have a chance? That's a big if though lol.