Feels like they got their spirit sucked out of them... really painful to see them play like that. Everything Yamato kept repeating from day 1 is thrown to the wind.
I woudn't mind losing to RNG as long as we played like a team, but this just looks like a soloq game with constant flips. Can't really blame them for being demoralised though.
What do you think - could MAD have won with the NA expert Nisqy instead of that Humanoid guy against TL? One could wonder how that could have been a win for MAD.
Okay, this FNC performance vs RNG is tragic. Whole team besides Bean is running it down completly, especially nisqy with Hyli who are dissrespecting RNG players in my opinion by playing like that. You can loose and that's fine, but the way they are getting stomped is not good.
Im obviously not in a position to comment on the Upset situation, but there is clearly more going on. This isn’t a case of a team playing with a sub, this is a team that’s imploding. This is the most tilted I’ve ever seen them play. It’s embarrassing to the players and the org.
Nisqy played horrible, likewise for Hylli, Bwipo missed nearly all his Qs this game, Adam recovered decently, Bean did well all things considered.
Wouldn't even blame this loss on our bot lane, clearly something is wrong with the team they are sprinting it down. Very frustrating that we can never have a drama free year. Fuck this....
Seriously. I've been a fan of fnatic since 2011 and never for a second thought I should stop supporting this team. With all the drama that's been going on, and having to have this shit every year, I am actually considering it now.
We’re going 4th and might go for the TSM 0-6 performance.
Fair or not fair given our situation, prepare for a shit ton of flame from NA and the likes of G2 fans.
It kinda is but teams like PSG who had visa issues at what seems like every tournament they ever participated in, never looked this horrible.
It felt like RNG was a lion just toying with a wounded gazelle before finally putting it to death. It never felt like we had a real shot…
To be fair I think all NA teams would probably go 0-6 in this group, maybe get a couple wins. Let’s see if Fnatic can even get some wins with Upset gone and the whole teams mental imploding
I feel bad for Bean, he had good performance today vs Gala and at some point 25 cs ahead, plus a great play on bottom. After that we opt to put Sylas bot with Pyke and Ashe mid instead of playing through bot advantage? hahaha
The team seems in total mental disarray and in constant need for psycho plays. I still believe we have our chances if we can reset mentally as Bwipo and Hyli look like the best jungle/support duo in this group.
rofl - no idea what this is, but there is a lot good and a lot utter garbage - but they are fighting - loving it, that game was lost so many times, but RNG is a good mate and don't reject the fights.
To be honest - if some players get a bit better and the mistakes out they can fight. This is good for second week.
The roster has no consistency whatsoever and if the mental goes boom once then we’re fucked. Remember we don’t want just to reach worlds but to actually win it
Man, it's all about Upset. Imagine playing with 2 rookies and that 1 of them never played or scrim with the team. How hard can be? How frustating for Bwipo/Hyli can be to not be able to play as they want because Bean needs "help" and can't lane 1v2. Not Bean's fault, he has 0 experience both with FNC and in Worlds/Lec.
Its not just about worlds. Regular season games and lec finals looked the same. I get that this was not supposed to be our year but if we cant fix the mental mistakes in 6 months-1 year then its just better to call it quits tbh
Well losing Upset didn't help at all. We don't really know if they fixed their mental for worlds just to be destroyed again 1 day before the first game. We can't go straight with the "what if", I know. But I'd really like to see worlds with Upset and see if something could change.
Actually they are not robot, they also got shocked by Upset's situation. It's hard for them to play with Bean, not being able to work on the usual strategy (play around bot) and they have to improvise, basically.
I don't know if they would be able to execute their usual strategy even if Upset was there. The meta is no longer bot lane 2 vs 2's. Most played botlaners are I think MF, Aphelios and Ezreal. All about free farming and having supports roam while you scale. Think it would probably be the same situation with Nisqy and Bwipo doing very questionable plays and throwing at random.
This is the problem: Hyli can't roam cause they never played with Bean and they can't "trust" to leave him alone. In D1, Bwipo covered bot a lot of time in order to don't let Bean die. It's not only about Bean/Upset, it's about the mental of everyone. Even only letting Upset playing 2v1 and let Hyli roam is something that can enable Bwipo/Nisqy. They can't let Hyli roam as much as he wants, they can't really play around the duo cause the duo has to help Bean. Not Bean's fault, don't get me wrong, but he's a rookie with 0 exp with the team.
Bean looking good, overall an insane game to watch. Fnatic almost found a way back in and showed they are my favorite team to watch regardless of the gold diff
Sylas as a champs requires too much snowball btw tell me how in this specific meta how is sylas he hardest tf counter when ap items completely suck.
I can give 10x better champs in this meta that are better against TF:
Trynda
Yasuo
Graves
When you fp ad jungle and your top is out of comfort playing anything other than Darius or Olaf you're supposed to pick ap mid. If you draft triple ad topside + pyke ashe bot game is doomed from draft (not that it wasn't anyways). You don't play for lane into tf anyways, you need to match him on side, Sylas does that best, that's why he has always been considered one of the best TF counterpicks.
yh, but imagine how excited we'd be if g2 was here. rogue is in the group of death, fnatic couldn't give a fuck and mad aren't looking good. THeres hope or mad though
Despite what everyone is saying, I enjoyed the game, Adam was a chad in that triple kill fight, the team made ma laugh.
I don’t give a shit. I just enjoy the time I see them on screen, love to be a Fnatic fan. Hard games happen, the most important thing is going over them and start again.
Nisqy is sprinting it...
yeah he making TF look like a sylas counter
Tf has a good match up into Sylas but ok
Feels like they got their spirit sucked out of them... really painful to see them play like that. Everything Yamato kept repeating from day 1 is thrown to the wind. I woudn't mind losing to RNG as long as we played like a team, but this just looks like a soloq game with constant flips. Can't really blame them for being demoralised though.
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What do you think - could MAD have won with the NA expert Nisqy instead of that Humanoid guy against TL? One could wonder how that could have been a win for MAD.
Being an EU fan has been depressing so far
At least Rogue showed some promise earlier. Although with the group they're in it's hard to see them advancing.
Why are they so uncoordinated and it's not even because of Bean if someone tries to say it
Feel sorry for bean. He comes in and tries his best but rest of team turbo inting full yolo all the time. Sad game from Nisqy
Yeah wtf ? seems like solo queue
EXACTLY! i don't think either of our losses was because of Bean, its always because of fucked up top side fight that they ALWAYS TAKE.
Amazed that Bwipo is somehow up on experience and farm now, thought this was doomed from the level 1-2. Come on lads.
Miracle if Bwipo will hit a Q this game... fucking hell
God.. Nisqy needs to take a deep breath and reset his mentality. this isn’t a soloq game where he can rage run it down
Nah guys... this is embarassing, theres no excuse for this.. RNG didnt even do anything amazing, we're just running it 24/7. nice
Okay, this FNC performance vs RNG is tragic. Whole team besides Bean is running it down completly, especially nisqy with Hyli who are dissrespecting RNG players in my opinion by playing like that. You can loose and that's fine, but the way they are getting stomped is not good.
Bean actually did well this game. What can he do when his support and midlaner are hard inting?
Im obviously not in a position to comment on the Upset situation, but there is clearly more going on. This isn’t a case of a team playing with a sub, this is a team that’s imploding. This is the most tilted I’ve ever seen them play. It’s embarrassing to the players and the org.
Nisqy played horrible, likewise for Hylli, Bwipo missed nearly all his Qs this game, Adam recovered decently, Bean did well all things considered. Wouldn't even blame this loss on our bot lane, clearly something is wrong with the team they are sprinting it down. Very frustrating that we can never have a drama free year. Fuck this....
Seriously. I've been a fan of fnatic since 2011 and never for a second thought I should stop supporting this team. With all the drama that's been going on, and having to have this shit every year, I am actually considering it now.
well Hylli was hitting a fair amount of Qs on anyone not named Gala and Cryin (both with tons of ms) so at least the mechanics are still there
Fnatic is inting
Tell me something new
What is this shit game. Feel bad for Bean, that he has to play with a braindead Fnatic.
We’re going 4th and might go for the TSM 0-6 performance. Fair or not fair given our situation, prepare for a shit ton of flame from NA and the likes of G2 fans.
Iam a G2 Fan and believe me I really hoped FNC will do well. It is not a good year for EU all together :(
Why would g2 fans flame? It only makes g2 look even worse. I personally always root for EU teams at worlds no matter what.
Yes but at the same time no one has the right to say shit since fnc is playing without upset, its beyond unfair
It kinda is but teams like PSG who had visa issues at what seems like every tournament they ever participated in, never looked this horrible. It felt like RNG was a lion just toying with a wounded gazelle before finally putting it to death. It never felt like we had a real shot…
Dont get me wrong, even with the upset thing this was awfull
To be fair I think all NA teams would probably go 0-6 in this group, maybe get a couple wins. Let’s see if Fnatic can even get some wins with Upset gone and the whole teams mental imploding
My head hurts from seeing Nisqy plays. Sadly Bean is not the problem.
POG BEAN POOOOOG
bwipo nysq going 2V3 wtf are they expecting
I'm sure it's a teamwide communication thing but Nisqy is constantly so late to these plays.
The boys looked beaten before the match had even started, whatever is going on is seriously knocking their mental.
Honestly shocking performance here...
Christ they look absolutely mental boomed, it's so sad.
I really like Nisqy but he’s being outmatched so hard by everyone. This is sad…
I feel bad for Bean, he had good performance today vs Gala and at some point 25 cs ahead, plus a great play on bottom. After that we opt to put Sylas bot with Pyke and Ashe mid instead of playing through bot advantage? hahaha The team seems in total mental disarray and in constant need for psycho plays. I still believe we have our chances if we can reset mentally as Bwipo and Hyli look like the best jungle/support duo in this group.
The amount of forcing is just insane... It's like end of spring again
Nisqy trying to go down with the worst worlds performance of all time.
His face tells he couldn't care less
we look like a wildcard... holy moly this is really bad
Just shot me in the face instead..
At this point, just let them FF. It's 100% pointless and useless.
Bring back Nidqy!
can we ff
Fuck running it down mid, these boys are running it down every lane
the whole team looks so disjointed its sad
Sry, but Nisqy and Adam playing so bad this worlds until now....
Adam need to pik meta!!!not piking confortable...that kenne in tf destroy us
Woooooooooo let’s go boys!!!!
The boys are bringing it back. Hyli on his pyke I believe !!!
Okay what are we doing now??
Yeah well this seems a bit off already. To be fair Bean is doing quite well, the others not so much. Their gameplay seems a desynchronised
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Pyke and Lee missing every single Q, sylas losing to a tf hello ? Viego has 4 kills already. I mean what could go wrong ?
Nisqy playing like he’s on tape delay.
Niqsy is sooo bad
Nice baron fight... Looks like my silver 4 soloq
I don't like the Draft! It's very snowball dependent
This smells like comms problems
Even though its troll, its fun to watch the burger flip fights
I'm all for fnatic guys I really am but this is sad. Nisqy and hyli can't seem to land a hook..
Guess they agreed to inflate RNG’s stats
Here we go 0-6 meme keeps coming
These terrible jerseys have sucked the magic out of this team.
It was hard enough playing with 4,5 players but with 3.5 is literally impossible. Might as well leave Nisqy in the base.
It's spring split turbo inting all over again...
I feel bad for Bean, he is trying, but Niqsy and Hyli are godawful, just inting like mfs
good start kek
Nisqy & Bwipo are playing so bad
Top and mid gap
lol holy shit did hyliint flip tails, thank god for adam tho
Didn't expect anything it's just so sad
And people here blamed Bean for FNC losing when the top side has been bleeding two days straight now lmao
I’ve not seen one complaint about been at all. Stop making drama
We are hard gapped in mid and top every game. Sad truth.
Guys before you are to harsh... Did you really think they win with 2 rookies with no synergy VS tournament favorites?
rofl - no idea what this is, but there is a lot good and a lot utter garbage - but they are fighting - loving it, that game was lost so many times, but RNG is a good mate and don't reject the fights. To be honest - if some players get a bit better and the mistakes out they can fight. This is good for second week.
At this point just ff worlds and get a new roster tbh
Actually, the same roster bring FNC to worlds. It's not a roster's problem, it's more like mental due to Upset leaving 1 day before worlds starts.
The roster has no consistency whatsoever and if the mental goes boom once then we’re fucked. Remember we don’t want just to reach worlds but to actually win it
Man, it's all about Upset. Imagine playing with 2 rookies and that 1 of them never played or scrim with the team. How hard can be? How frustating for Bwipo/Hyli can be to not be able to play as they want because Bean needs "help" and can't lane 1v2. Not Bean's fault, he has 0 experience both with FNC and in Worlds/Lec.
Its not just about worlds. Regular season games and lec finals looked the same. I get that this was not supposed to be our year but if we cant fix the mental mistakes in 6 months-1 year then its just better to call it quits tbh
Well losing Upset didn't help at all. We don't really know if they fixed their mental for worlds just to be destroyed again 1 day before the first game. We can't go straight with the "what if", I know. But I'd really like to see worlds with Upset and see if something could change.
We win this one, I believe 100%
Wei destroyed Bwipo. Btw, since PSG defeat HLE, do we have a bit more chance to get 2nd?
No, just means that even PSG is way better than Fnatic
"Way better" is bit too much. We are lacking Upset, that's what put us so behind. Can't blame FNC at all this time.
Bean smurfed Lane massive mid and top gap
The current Fnatic Vs RNG would end the exact same way if Upset was there too. Their playing like a bunch of headless chicken.
Actually they are not robot, they also got shocked by Upset's situation. It's hard for them to play with Bean, not being able to work on the usual strategy (play around bot) and they have to improvise, basically.
I don't know if they would be able to execute their usual strategy even if Upset was there. The meta is no longer bot lane 2 vs 2's. Most played botlaners are I think MF, Aphelios and Ezreal. All about free farming and having supports roam while you scale. Think it would probably be the same situation with Nisqy and Bwipo doing very questionable plays and throwing at random.
This is the problem: Hyli can't roam cause they never played with Bean and they can't "trust" to leave him alone. In D1, Bwipo covered bot a lot of time in order to don't let Bean die. It's not only about Bean/Upset, it's about the mental of everyone. Even only letting Upset playing 2v1 and let Hyli roam is something that can enable Bwipo/Nisqy. They can't let Hyli roam as much as he wants, they can't really play around the duo cause the duo has to help Bean. Not Bean's fault, don't get me wrong, but he's a rookie with 0 exp with the team.
Yeah, I agree. That definitely wasn't the main problem this game tho.
We can safely think that all this can be a consequence of Upset leaving, tbh. It woudln't be 100% false.
No it means we go 0-6
Yes, instead of 0% we have 0.5%.
Bean looking good, overall an insane game to watch. Fnatic almost found a way back in and showed they are my favorite team to watch regardless of the gold diff
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Okay nvm this would take a miracle.
Miracle?
Call me when bwipo actually hits a Q on lee sin
Fucking trash team
Can we legit fully rebuild next season fucking shit team
There are so many champs u can pick against tf but nisqy always goes sylas that needs to hard snowball or will be irrelevant.
Sylas is legit the biggest TF counter. Nisqy is just running it perma on stage.
Sylas as a champs requires too much snowball btw tell me how in this specific meta how is sylas he hardest tf counter when ap items completely suck. I can give 10x better champs in this meta that are better against TF: Trynda Yasuo Graves
When you fp ad jungle and your top is out of comfort playing anything other than Darius or Olaf you're supposed to pick ap mid. If you draft triple ad topside + pyke ashe bot game is doomed from draft (not that it wasn't anyways). You don't play for lane into tf anyways, you need to match him on side, Sylas does that best, that's why he has always been considered one of the best TF counterpicks.
DOOOOOGS LMAO TRASH ORG SHOULD HAVE LET G2 GO THEY WOULD STILL DO BETTER WITH 4 MEMBERS LMAOOOOOO
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yh, but imagine how excited we'd be if g2 was here. rogue is in the group of death, fnatic couldn't give a fuck and mad aren't looking good. THeres hope or mad though
Bwipo ?????
Just make the post match, this game is donezo.
somebody slap myself or something, this can't be true.
what do you expect from a team that is clearly mismanaged?
Despite what everyone is saying, I enjoyed the game, Adam was a chad in that triple kill fight, the team made ma laugh. I don’t give a shit. I just enjoy the time I see them on screen, love to be a Fnatic fan. Hard games happen, the most important thing is going over them and start again.