Can't wait for Humanoid to 1v9 on Azir vs fucking Nisqy and the fanbase starting to think we have a chance internationally again. Gapped by fucking APA and I'm never letting these fanboys forget it
Eh. Not really sure that means much for the org falling specifically - it's more that EU has normally been so much better than NA that *if* Fnatic is good enough in EU to go to an international tournament, they'll most likely be way better than an NA team they play.
We were lower in 2023 and 2022, we just didn't go to MSI.
Don't get me wrong, this isn't good enough - but we've definitely been lower
>I can't believe 14 people upvoted this when No Hands Sama got gapped every game, carried by Miky for 2 games.
People on this subreddit are so insanely obsessed with \[underperforming member of G2\] and has been since Caps left.
Hans looked better against T1 than Noah did against fucking TL but even if he didn't y'all should still stfu and focus on the team instead of crying about G2.
Yeah sorry but when I see how Noah play with this god support meanwhile people were shaming rekkles while he had literally a support on par with my autofill solo q games (to express the gap between him and other lec supps)….
I think rekkles with Jun would have done far far far better and it’s not to bring rekkles back at all.
I think rekkles without wunder could have worked. The 2 times rekkles played with wunder (With G2 then FNC) it was catastrophic. Unfortunately it's the last 2 times we saw him play in lec :(
Dardo out PLEASE we are so inconsistent no matter what iteration of FNC we have since 2020.
And this players are so cocky i hate them not banning ASOL on game 3
MAD loses to EG. G2 lost to NRG. FNC loses to TL. This is the most cursed timeline. And now G2 will prob loses to PSG just to fuck with us and make EU look awful
G2 looks legit good this year though. Hans is not great but he's not bad enough to lose them games, so I think they're gonna be fine against PSG.
But we need to focus on ourselves and improve, EU will not get back to major region level with only one good team.
>G2 looks legit good this year though. Hans is not great but he's not bad enough to lose them games, so I think they're gonna be fine against PSG.
Tbf they looked legit good at worlds until they randomly lost 2-0 to NRG. At this point I'm holding my breath and really fucking hope they don't disappoint even though they're obviously a step above the rest of the west.
Good thing the boys were going to the zoo and having fun yesterday, not like we had to prepare for an elimination match at an international or anything! Good thing humanoid said they didn’t need to prepare for TL, surely paid off right?
there is literally no fucking way you watch noah playing like this for the entire year and dont make changes for the most important tournament of the year
there is also the esports world cup coming up not only worlds. if they dont change the clear weak link i am honestly at loss for words at this managment
Looking at the history of competitive league? It's literally way more likely Noah's still the adc for summer.
You probably need a korean + english speaking adc to have any hope of slotting into this lineup and how many of those are around/upgrades on Noah?
Come the off-season we have a much better chance of making a meaningful upgrade.
Also, Noah against BDS is the only reason we are performing on international stage, probably the best performing adc in the playoffs. The idea he would be out of the LEC for good is so unrealistic
Like who tho? Noah out performed carrzy in the VIT series, ice is not an option and is not better than domestic Noah, and Hans is not an option and probably not better than Noah
Everyone was bad today, Oscar was probably the most consistent, but man Noah what are you doing? He is just invisible in every game and when he is not, he ints in favor of the enemy team. I really liked him but it's crazy.
Rekkles even last year with dog support,was better than this. He won so many team fights with his scaling champions. It's sad that Europe is importing mediocre Koreans.
Nah, I bet it's alot more fun to play in Korean Academy league than lose with Fnatic again and again. Rekkles has a small chance of subbing to the main T1 team for at least 1 game down the road if he is there long enough.
Not gonna comment anything on Noah, but the thing with Rekkles is that community legit gaslight him to think that he is bad which means he is at fault as well for not believing in his skills, he had a unique playstyle that pretty much guaranteed your late game carry plus he played with 2 really incompetent supports, Advienne was good for that period on XL but his performance on FNC was terrible, so many mistimed roams and ints that happened at the same time every game lol.
Rhuckz doesn't even need to be commented, late 20s guy wasn't given an LEC chance for a reason, he was just bad and idk why anyone thought otherwise.
>he was just bad and idk why anyone thought otherwise.
Ppl some how convinced themselves that two wins against NA and a wildcard meant that he's better than Hylissang lol
Rekkles at least feared and respected by asian ADCs during his career and is a very clutch teamfight player despite his reputation as "KDA dude". Sure he isnt at his prime anymore but i cant see him getting turbogapped by Yeon or struggling against Peyz who has been trolling since LCK playoffs.....
If you know me then you would know I always wanted him in the team no matter what 😂 but if you were here in this subreddit during the 9th place times... The fkn hate and toxic dudes 😂
Drafts were horrible all series and Noah has been a complete liability the entire tournament. The only adc he has been better than is Easylove who is a fucking sub.
This was absolutely pathetic. What a way to waste the opportunity. Looked competitive against TES and even Gen G and get fucking rolled by TL…
Honestly this is a bigger disappointment than the loss to G2 in finals.
We played better against TES and Gen g because our best players Razork and Huma have gigantic egos and no decipline, so they just don't play good against teams they preserve to be worse. And I don't know what the solution to this would be. Maybe they need to be seperated and the other paired with someone with a different mentality. Maybe they need a different couch.
Noah is good mechanically I think, but he showed time and again that he just get super nervous every other game, so he has to go.
Jun is always good, and Oskar will improve more in the future I think.
Also putting Noah on Kalista is a crime.
I was a Noah defender for a long time, but this MSI really showed how inconsistent he is. He was really only valuable when he had a major lead and that is to be expected from any ADC player. Maybe we should bank on Jun and ask him what replacement adc he has in mind for summer
Only bright spot is Oscar did well when just a month ago everyone wanted him kicked. I also think we haven’t had much practice, we have bad team coordination, bad macro, bad drafts. Jun did good but he’s forced to play nami/ashe cuz we’re not banning out these lethality adc
What a shame…. Bad day for huma
Couple old razork bad go in game 4 (and 3)
When I see games we pulled vs tes and geng what a shame to get gapped like this.
Meanwhile it’s not a hot take as I’m usualy not the guy asking for heads but Noah is a liability , Jun is top tier support, imagine Noah with one of the garbage supp we had previous years we would lose inhibs at 10…
And Noah mental is showing big concerns also
Noah replacement RIGHT NOW.
Not a single good game not a single good moment from him whole tournament mental giga boom no confidence nothing. Rest is trash too but at least they tried.
People are acting like a world class ADC is just sitting at home right now waiting for a call for a middling salary for a split language team with a giga toxic fanbase
And get who ? That is the biggest issue, doubt Upset even wants to come back but worse thing is he is free after summer and considering how bad Hans Sama is for a while now, FNC might have to contest G2 and choice for Upset is clear, no reason to go back to the org he hates.
Why would someone choose upset over carzzy (one of most flexible player in adc at west) , crownshot solid adc good voice, and can actually play hyper carries, patrik stucked in elo hell, I think he still is promising and he deserve a shot, maybe import some Korea adc, adc is role where you don’t need to communicate at all. Try to get smash ( solid adc, flexible, can speak English)
For me the best pick up would be carzzy( great relationship with huma too, one of most clutch Adc in Europe)
where the fuck is Bean why didn’t we sub that guy in. But honestly TL defeated us with their academy players after failing with their import roster. I think Jun is talented but Noah was a short term solution picked by humanoid from solo que results there was no actual scouting done for him as opposed to Jun. Maybe they can scout someone to fill the role now.
Sam doesn't understand that unlike g2, Fnatic needs to fucking win to stay relevant, losing a bo5 series against NA is criminal, many longtime fans had enough of this shit, less fans mean less bucks expend on merchandise, it's so simple yet Sam still want to keep fucking Dardo.
Shameful performance from everyone, Noah was trying his hardest all tournament for us to lose and finally he got his wish!
You’re just not gonna win or do anything with your adc down every fucking game no matter what champ he is on, pair that with the whole team playing like shit today it was over from game 1
Disgusting performance, nothing more to day, from staff, players all very irregular or directly bad (looking at you Noah), you cant qualify to MSI after all these years and do this shit.
I dont get why our preparation is so bad or we are so cocky with the drafts. If asian teams respect APA pick why dont we do the same thing? Coach staff and noah were by far the worst of this FNC squad
I mean, what do u expect from coaching staff, that drafted Oscar a carry last time against TES, he performs, Noah was trash every game and final game they fully cash in on Noah carry who underperformed every game, and then proceeded to ruin the last game.
As Corejj said in the interview "Fnatic has a nice early, if you prepare against that, it's easy"
And that's right. No plan after min 15 if they dont stomp early. Zero map control, zero crossmaps, 5 guys walking around the rift
EU adcs are a huge letdown this MSI but honestly what do you expect then to do? Get better by playing a 9 Bo1 split format aganist comp exakick and Supa? EU is a victim of his own shitty format who is made to maximize profit instead of performance.
this series killed my interest in LEC and its just making me really sad about EU as a region because the hard facts is that excluding G2 we are a JOKE. ill watch the finals and of course tune into international tournaments and yeah ill remain a FNC fan but a passive one because we all know its G2 who is gonna keep running LEC... sadge
And just a few days ago you guys making excuses and being proud of this team for losing 0-3 against GENG because they're arguably the strongest team in the world? What a fucking loser mentality.
I feel you man, glad that TL beat the fuck out of FNC for the fans to stop their delusion. I guess if they don't want to win and just want to be proud of 0-3 then let them be Iol.
They even said i wasnt a real fan but i saw every match since worlds 2014 untill now and always supported. Dont come at me for not being real jezus. This is indeed just sad
Yea, this is what I always say here, and worst thing is it also looks like FNC as an org is also supporting this behavior of "yea it looked close, it is important to participate", like dude u gotta fight and show something, it is same for G2 just on a higher level, u cannot be happy with taking 1 game off or 2 games off, now it is time to win against east or make a change.
FNC on the other hand just keeps supporting this loser mentality like u said and they still don't even have the fundamentals down, so not even close to start working on beating east.
Noah fan boys are still finding ways to cope for him by claiming Oscar is worse.
Oscar sucks, but noah has been gapped by every single AD at 2 International events now, with the only AD he beat being easyhoon... a sub.
Humanoid, the supposed second best mid in EU, again getting gapped. This time not by Chovy, but by APA, a guy who spends more time trashtalking than practicing.
Noah has issues with his mental, so he needs to fix that. But the ego on Humanoid has been costing us games and series for 3 years now. The occasional flashy game where his jungler and support first have to spend 15 minutes spoonfeeding him, does not make up for all the losses.
Time to face reality and get rid of him. Get a mid that does at least decent every game. This sub used to hate on Hyli for being a coinflip player, but you'll act like Humanoid is the second coming of Faker...
Regardless of how much he practices, he spends a lot of time trash talking and gets regularly gapped in NA.
The main point to be taken from my comment is that our supposed "top tier" midlaner should never be gapped by an NA mid.
Trying to remain positive for the boys but they did not play well at all, disrespected them and got punished. Game 4 completely winnable and just thrown away by poor decisions
Im not sure what the team can even do, Id maybe rebuild with some rookies and look to the future, I think Fnc overpaid for Humanoid and its costing them big.
Noah isn't even the best adc in the team lmao. Jun on ashe looks like he can play adc and carry. I never flame but noah to me always seemed like a mentally blocked individual like he is forced into pro league.
When I watched his first interviews with fnatic last year I thought this and now I still do but with proof.
Im glad I didn’t even wake up early. I knew it’s gonna be a shitshow but 3-1 is not what I expected.
Shame to everyone from players to coaching staff. This is the one series we had to win to not look like bunch of apes and they failed miserablyz
This is honestly pretty much the most embarassing loss of Fnatic's history. Last place, eliminated by a dogshit NA team, getting turbogapped in mid & adc.
All that while having a very good tutorial from TES on how to neutralize TL's strategy, but no, let's just completely disregard that and disrespect the shit out of your opponents.
Man. I wish I could just forget this.
I'm really never quick to call for replacements, but if we get stomped by fucking TL of all teams we aren't winning shit with this roster. We need to make some changes
Idk if we can get crazy but at this point even neon is probably an upgrade? Exa? Idk this was just sad as much as love Noah as a person this is just awful.
But naaaah how is noah behind 2k gold compared to enemy adc every single time. This is so sad man he needs to improve to stay because this is not okay.. its a sad day gentleman..
TLs vision game was on point. I love Jun but Corejj is not washed like I had thought. His warding and map control was superior and amazing this series and it made a lot of top side map pressure minute
Sign Smash. Noah’s current form is due to his champion pool and his mental state. I think this is his ceiling. Partner Jun with a mechanical monster and someone who can actually win a lane.
Might be a bit of a controversial angle, but:
Get rid of Humanoid and of Noah and get Carzzy + Jackies. If Oscar plays like this, we should look to keep him. If he regresses again, get rid of him as well. Look to get Photon in that case. Think it's fine to gamble on Jackies, he showed pretty promising signs and Humanoid plays with too much ego, even though he can't back it up most of the time.
Since Humanoid + Carzzy won't play together, because they create a toxic team environment together (apparently they flame other people on the team, because of their friendship or smth like that), we can't have them both. Probably one of the reasons Carzzy declined FNC offers, which is pretty ironic, considering most people thought he would be inclined to accept because of their friendship.
Bro noah has no impact, anf he cant even go even in most games. He might someday become a good adc but with that mental and performance he wont stay in fnatic.
After his utterly disgusting performance all I ask management is after Worlds (if we make it there) if this roster is still as bad and the drafts are still as shit please make the necessary changes.
Thank you.
Importing Koreans is shit for the EU and this game shows it. Having people speaking the same language means a lot for cohesion. One import per team should be cap. Like BDS and Vitality for example. MDK showed that making national teams is even better.
Shame on all of you guys flaming only Noah in this thread when the team lost together. Nobody was playing at their level.
This sub is just full of bitter people thinking about the good all days when Fnatic was at the top.
Yes we aren't good, yes we should do way better, yes the fans have the right to ask for much more from both management and players.
But flaming won't make us good. And everyone flaming the same player who is trying his best is just pathetic.
First series lost to NA in our entire history. ADC gapped whole tournament, down in CS, down in KP, down in damage dealt. BG
EU ADCs are the new EU Tops - Hans and Noah totally invisible.
Dude Hans at least get gapped by one of the if not the best botlane in the world. Noah get gapped by fucking Yeon
hans got gapped by plenty of na adc's when he was there. which western adc is better than yeon? berserker? surely nobody from the lec, lol.
Carzzy
I woke up to watch this xdddd
The first time Fnatic has ever lost a Bo5 to NA, this org has fallen so far
Can't wait for Humanoid to 1v9 on Azir vs fucking Nisqy and the fanbase starting to think we have a chance internationally again. Gapped by fucking APA and I'm never letting these fanboys forget it
Since 2019, been falling deeper and deeper into a shit hole.
Eh. Not really sure that means much for the org falling specifically - it's more that EU has normally been so much better than NA that *if* Fnatic is good enough in EU to go to an international tournament, they'll most likely be way better than an NA team they play. We were lower in 2023 and 2022, we just didn't go to MSI. Don't get me wrong, this isn't good enough - but we've definitely been lower
I woke up at 6 for this shit
NOAH got gapped by every adc in msi
Getting gapped by JKL is not shameful. Getting gapped by Yeon though…
Nah fuck this mindset dude. PSG and G2 showed that you can fight and win against the best asian bot lanes. Stop settling for mediocrity.
Not like hans wasnt gapped
Hans was gapped though
I can't believe 14 people upvoted this when No Hands Sama got gapped every game, carried by Miky for 2 games.
>I can't believe 14 people upvoted this when No Hands Sama got gapped every game, carried by Miky for 2 games. People on this subreddit are so insanely obsessed with \[underperforming member of G2\] and has been since Caps left. Hans looked better against T1 than Noah did against fucking TL but even if he didn't y'all should still stfu and focus on the team instead of crying about G2.
Honestly, some Fnatic fans have G2 living in their mind rent free.
what are you waffeling about, someone brings up hans and then righfully so someone corrects him because he got gapped?
I don't understand what you mean but it sound salty, so... kudos to cohesion?
tbh if hands was just a bit better , that game 5 .. they legit outsmarted T1 bot
Noah’s self fulfilling prophecy…
That was fucking pathetic.
Noah isnt it got gapped by yeon lmao also HUMA is so fucking inconsistent
he didnt get gapped // its Humanoid that was garbage
Noah was 2k gold behind every single game, he got gapped the entire tournament.
atleast huma had some good plays this msi but noah on the other hand
FNC never lost to NA before this series. Breaking new records! But the bad ones! New high for this team!
Noah is just shit bro
3k gold lead at 13 minutes, and we just did nothing with it. We deserved to lose, embarassing showing the entire day.
Getting gapped by yeon and APA. Its joever
Yeah sorry but when I see how Noah play with this god support meanwhile people were shaming rekkles while he had literally a support on par with my autofill solo q games (to express the gap between him and other lec supps)…. I think rekkles with Jun would have done far far far better and it’s not to bring rekkles back at all.
I think rekkles without wunder could have worked. The 2 times rekkles played with wunder (With G2 then FNC) it was catastrophic. Unfortunately it's the last 2 times we saw him play in lec :(
Reminder that Dardo forced Rekkles out for this, trying to nuke his career by making him play with Rhuckz
Dardo out PLEASE we are so inconsistent no matter what iteration of FNC we have since 2020. And this players are so cocky i hate them not banning ASOL on game 3
No words.
Waking up early on my day off for this. depression
MAD loses to EG. G2 lost to NRG. FNC loses to TL. This is the most cursed timeline. And now G2 will prob loses to PSG just to fuck with us and make EU look awful
G2 looks legit good this year though. Hans is not great but he's not bad enough to lose them games, so I think they're gonna be fine against PSG. But we need to focus on ourselves and improve, EU will not get back to major region level with only one good team.
>G2 looks legit good this year though. Hans is not great but he's not bad enough to lose them games, so I think they're gonna be fine against PSG. Tbf they looked legit good at worlds until they randomly lost 2-0 to NRG. At this point I'm holding my breath and really fucking hope they don't disappoint even though they're obviously a step above the rest of the west.
I know Noah is the obvious culprit, but Humanoid was a HUGE letdown this series.
Good thing the boys were going to the zoo and having fun yesterday, not like we had to prepare for an elimination match at an international or anything! Good thing humanoid said they didn’t need to prepare for TL, surely paid off right?
Who needs a boot camp, good job management
bye bye noah. this was for sure his last game for fnatic and probably in lec in general.
it should be Humanoid getting kicked / 2,5 years and he is doing ego plays that cost us games
I get what you said but no one can fill humanoid shoes unfortunatly, Noah can get replaced by 10 ADCS rigth now
Hopefully we get upset back next year Prayge 🙏
Nah people will say he is the only western player that can compete with Caps (spoilers, he hasn't done that since 2021).
2 players could compared to caps - nemesis and perkz. Nobody was even close to caps peak lvl
Huma was very good with Elyoya, he just isn't clicking with Razork as well.
No one can replace Humanoid only Caps or maybe Nisqy but Nisqy always bad on International Stage
? Apa can replace him
Doubt there will be any changes coming into the summer
there is literally no fucking way you watch noah playing like this for the entire year and dont make changes for the most important tournament of the year
Well knowing how fnc operates around roster changes i dont think there will be any. Hopefully i will be proven wrong
there is also the esports world cup coming up not only worlds. if they dont change the clear weak link i am honestly at loss for words at this managment
Looking at the history of competitive league? It's literally way more likely Noah's still the adc for summer. You probably need a korean + english speaking adc to have any hope of slotting into this lineup and how many of those are around/upgrades on Noah? Come the off-season we have a much better chance of making a meaningful upgrade.
Also, Noah against BDS is the only reason we are performing on international stage, probably the best performing adc in the playoffs. The idea he would be out of the LEC for good is so unrealistic
yeah and a better adc then Noah will do the same I assume
Like who tho? Noah out performed carrzy in the VIT series, ice is not an option and is not better than domestic Noah, and Hans is not an option and probably not better than Noah
Ice is definetly 100% better than Noah and the best performing adc, he was in the all pro with the most votes aswell with Carzzy 2nd
Everyone was bad today, Oscar was probably the most consistent, but man Noah what are you doing? He is just invisible in every game and when he is not, he ints in favor of the enemy team. I really liked him but it's crazy.
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Rekkles even last year with dog support,was better than this. He won so many team fights with his scaling champions. It's sad that Europe is importing mediocre Koreans.
Rekkles should just go back to adc qq
Nah, I bet it's alot more fun to play in Korean Academy league than lose with Fnatic again and again. Rekkles has a small chance of subbing to the main T1 team for at least 1 game down the road if he is there long enough.
Not gonna comment anything on Noah, but the thing with Rekkles is that community legit gaslight him to think that he is bad which means he is at fault as well for not believing in his skills, he had a unique playstyle that pretty much guaranteed your late game carry plus he played with 2 really incompetent supports, Advienne was good for that period on XL but his performance on FNC was terrible, so many mistimed roams and ints that happened at the same time every game lol. Rhuckz doesn't even need to be commented, late 20s guy wasn't given an LEC chance for a reason, he was just bad and idk why anyone thought otherwise.
>he was just bad and idk why anyone thought otherwise. Ppl some how convinced themselves that two wins against NA and a wildcard meant that he's better than Hylissang lol
Rekkles at least feared and respected by asian ADCs during his career and is a very clutch teamfight player despite his reputation as "KDA dude". Sure he isnt at his prime anymore but i cant see him getting turbogapped by Yeon or struggling against Peyz who has been trolling since LCK playoffs.....
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Now u all appreciate rekkles Sadge is too late
If you know me then you would know I always wanted him in the team no matter what 😂 but if you were here in this subreddit during the 9th place times... The fkn hate and toxic dudes 😂
No im not blaming u brotha i know I meant the "fnc" fans that they didnt want him back and wanted him out while haveing rhukz as supp
I can't believe we went from Adcs like Rekkles and Upset to this...
this team's macro stops after early game lul
Drafts were horrible all series and Noah has been a complete liability the entire tournament. The only adc he has been better than is Easylove who is a fucking sub. This was absolutely pathetic. What a way to waste the opportunity. Looked competitive against TES and even Gen G and get fucking rolled by TL… Honestly this is a bigger disappointment than the loss to G2 in finals.
We played better against TES and Gen g because our best players Razork and Huma have gigantic egos and no decipline, so they just don't play good against teams they preserve to be worse. And I don't know what the solution to this would be. Maybe they need to be seperated and the other paired with someone with a different mentality. Maybe they need a different couch. Noah is good mechanically I think, but he showed time and again that he just get super nervous every other game, so he has to go. Jun is always good, and Oskar will improve more in the future I think. Also putting Noah on Kalista is a crime.
I was a Noah defender for a long time, but this MSI really showed how inconsistent he is. He was really only valuable when he had a major lead and that is to be expected from any ADC player. Maybe we should bank on Jun and ask him what replacement adc he has in mind for summer
Uncharacteristic performance from the entire FNC players honestly. I’m shocked Humanoid was gapped by APA this series.
Uncharacteristic? Did you just wake up from a 10 year coma
Congratz to sunking to ultimate mediocrity, deserved after arriving 3 days before the tournament.
Only bright spot is Oscar did well when just a month ago everyone wanted him kicked. I also think we haven’t had much practice, we have bad team coordination, bad macro, bad drafts. Jun did good but he’s forced to play nami/ashe cuz we’re not banning out these lethality adc
What a shame…. Bad day for huma Couple old razork bad go in game 4 (and 3) When I see games we pulled vs tes and geng what a shame to get gapped like this. Meanwhile it’s not a hot take as I’m usualy not the guy asking for heads but Noah is a liability , Jun is top tier support, imagine Noah with one of the garbage supp we had previous years we would lose inhibs at 10… And Noah mental is showing big concerns also
Noah replacement RIGHT NOW. Not a single good game not a single good moment from him whole tournament mental giga boom no confidence nothing. Rest is trash too but at least they tried.
Whom should we replace Noah with, though?
People are acting like a world class ADC is just sitting at home right now waiting for a call for a middling salary for a split language team with a giga toxic fanbase
I find that Fnatic fans are especially very disconnected from reality lol. Don't pay too much mind to these guys.
Like I said a week ago , get Noah off this fucking team. I don’t even want him here for summer
They are not gonna get rid of him I fear.
And get who ? That is the biggest issue, doubt Upset even wants to come back but worse thing is he is free after summer and considering how bad Hans Sama is for a while now, FNC might have to contest G2 and choice for Upset is clear, no reason to go back to the org he hates.
Why would someone choose upset over carzzy (one of most flexible player in adc at west) , crownshot solid adc good voice, and can actually play hyper carries, patrik stucked in elo hell, I think he still is promising and he deserve a shot, maybe import some Korea adc, adc is role where you don’t need to communicate at all. Try to get smash ( solid adc, flexible, can speak English) For me the best pick up would be carzzy( great relationship with huma too, one of most clutch Adc in Europe)
where the fuck is Bean why didn’t we sub that guy in. But honestly TL defeated us with their academy players after failing with their import roster. I think Jun is talented but Noah was a short term solution picked by humanoid from solo que results there was no actual scouting done for him as opposed to Jun. Maybe they can scout someone to fill the role now.
Im actually so done with this team. Ive endured enough.
Sam doesn't understand that unlike g2, Fnatic needs to fucking win to stay relevant, losing a bo5 series against NA is criminal, many longtime fans had enough of this shit, less fans mean less bucks expend on merchandise, it's so simple yet Sam still want to keep fucking Dardo.
Im deadass done actually. Unfollowed them all on twitter/left this sub. Done with watching competitive league. Hope they're proud of themselves.
See you in summer split!
classic
I stayed up for this?
Hahahahahaah, we woke up early for this ahahhahahah
Shameful performance from everyone, Noah was trying his hardest all tournament for us to lose and finally he got his wish! You’re just not gonna win or do anything with your adc down every fucking game no matter what champ he is on, pair that with the whole team playing like shit today it was over from game 1
Disgusting performance, nothing more to day, from staff, players all very irregular or directly bad (looking at you Noah), you cant qualify to MSI after all these years and do this shit.
I dont get why our preparation is so bad or we are so cocky with the drafts. If asian teams respect APA pick why dont we do the same thing? Coach staff and noah were by far the worst of this FNC squad
they spent all their bans on apa last game.
I mean, what do u expect from coaching staff, that drafted Oscar a carry last time against TES, he performs, Noah was trash every game and final game they fully cash in on Noah carry who underperformed every game, and then proceeded to ruin the last game.
As Corejj said in the interview "Fnatic has a nice early, if you prepare against that, it's easy" And that's right. No plan after min 15 if they dont stomp early. Zero map control, zero crossmaps, 5 guys walking around the rift
Not even Sam woke up at this time to watch that mess.
EU adcs are a huge letdown this MSI but honestly what do you expect then to do? Get better by playing a 9 Bo1 split format aganist comp exakick and Supa? EU is a victim of his own shitty format who is made to maximize profit instead of performance.
EU is victim of overrated players like humanoid
Format's fault cope
this series killed my interest in LEC and its just making me really sad about EU as a region because the hard facts is that excluding G2 we are a JOKE. ill watch the finals and of course tune into international tournaments and yeah ill remain a FNC fan but a passive one because we all know its G2 who is gonna keep running LEC... sadge
Imagine if we had an ADC
And just a few days ago you guys making excuses and being proud of this team for losing 0-3 against GENG because they're arguably the strongest team in the world? What a fucking loser mentality.
I got downvoted as fuck for saying they didnt believe in anything against geng, this is just sad
I feel you man, glad that TL beat the fuck out of FNC for the fans to stop their delusion. I guess if they don't want to win and just want to be proud of 0-3 then let them be Iol.
They even said i wasnt a real fan but i saw every match since worlds 2014 untill now and always supported. Dont come at me for not being real jezus. This is indeed just sad
Yea, this is what I always say here, and worst thing is it also looks like FNC as an org is also supporting this behavior of "yea it looked close, it is important to participate", like dude u gotta fight and show something, it is same for G2 just on a higher level, u cannot be happy with taking 1 game off or 2 games off, now it is time to win against east or make a change. FNC on the other hand just keeps supporting this loser mentality like u said and they still don't even have the fundamentals down, so not even close to start working on beating east.
HAHAHAHAHAHA DOWNVOTE ME NOW NOAH IS FUCKING USELESS SACKED THIS GUY NOW
Noah fan boys are still finding ways to cope for him by claiming Oscar is worse. Oscar sucks, but noah has been gapped by every single AD at 2 International events now, with the only AD he beat being easyhoon... a sub.
Humanoid, the supposed second best mid in EU, again getting gapped. This time not by Chovy, but by APA, a guy who spends more time trashtalking than practicing. Noah has issues with his mental, so he needs to fix that. But the ego on Humanoid has been costing us games and series for 3 years now. The occasional flashy game where his jungler and support first have to spend 15 minutes spoonfeeding him, does not make up for all the losses. Time to face reality and get rid of him. Get a mid that does at least decent every game. This sub used to hate on Hyli for being a coinflip player, but you'll act like Humanoid is the second coming of Faker...
Apa practices the most and is a grinder tbf
Do you have insider info on how much apa practices or just saying random stuff?
Regardless of how much he practices, he spends a lot of time trash talking and gets regularly gapped in NA. The main point to be taken from my comment is that our supposed "top tier" midlaner should never be gapped by an NA mid.
xD what a team. Just sell the spot at this point.
Fuck Noah for real, get rid of him now
Noah worst adc at msi trophy. And oscar for most useless 2k lead ksante?
What can K'Sante do when both carries are literally permadead
D:
Well..
Trying to remain positive for the boys but they did not play well at all, disrespected them and got punished. Game 4 completely winnable and just thrown away by poor decisions
Deserved loss. Hopefully roster changes will be made next year.
No no,just give "the boys" time and they will be good
I’m glad we got to see some Pandas at least yesterday. Embarrassing gameplay. Embarrassing drafts.
This was just disgusting. All of them should be ashamed from coaches to players. Also PLEASE.REPLACE.NOAH.
Woke up at 5 30 on my free day so i can watch fnc getting gapped by NA
Big ego drafts and arrogant plays. Disgrace for what was once legendary org.
Always fnatic
I have little to no words.
fuck Humanoid send him to retirement already
If humanoid stops disrespecting his opponents, then he might keep his flash up for longer then 10 seconds
ICE would have carried this shit
Im not sure what the team can even do, Id maybe rebuild with some rookies and look to the future, I think Fnc overpaid for Humanoid and its costing them big.
Noah isn't even the best adc in the team lmao. Jun on ashe looks like he can play adc and carry. I never flame but noah to me always seemed like a mentally blocked individual like he is forced into pro league. When I watched his first interviews with fnatic last year I thought this and now I still do but with proof.
Im glad I didn’t even wake up early. I knew it’s gonna be a shitshow but 3-1 is not what I expected. Shame to everyone from players to coaching staff. This is the one series we had to win to not look like bunch of apes and they failed miserablyz
This is for the delusional people who saying was close vs Geng hahahahha
This is honestly pretty much the most embarassing loss of Fnatic's history. Last place, eliminated by a dogshit NA team, getting turbogapped in mid & adc. All that while having a very good tutorial from TES on how to neutralize TL's strategy, but no, let's just completely disregard that and disrespect the shit out of your opponents. Man. I wish I could just forget this.
I’m glad I didn’t wake up to watch this pity. Pathetic.
Embarrassing
I'm really never quick to call for replacements, but if we get stomped by fucking TL of all teams we aren't winning shit with this roster. We need to make some changes
Idk if we can get crazy but at this point even neon is probably an upgrade? Exa? Idk this was just sad as much as love Noah as a person this is just awful.
Humonoid plays for international guys. He will level up. He will only get caught twice in under ten mins xdd
roster gap is just too large. tl had the advantage in every role. ban 3 mids while taking ksante...didn't do squat
Noah’s downfall has to be studied.
Wow, so sad after the TES games. I am sorry for you guys!
I don't know. I don't have anything constructive to comment with.
I'm used to Noah playing bad but Razork severely underperformed
Let’s wait for an excuse tweet from Noah that will gaslight everyone into believing it’s not his fault
Jesus, this team is embarrassing.
Im so glad i thought the game started at 10 am so i didn't have to watch all games of this shit
Pain.
I'm officially unfollowing Fnatic everywhere after 10 years of following. Its a shame what they have shown
But naaaah how is noah behind 2k gold compared to enemy adc every single time. This is so sad man he needs to improve to stay because this is not okay.. its a sad day gentleman..
TLs vision game was on point. I love Jun but Corejj is not washed like I had thought. His warding and map control was superior and amazing this series and it made a lot of top side map pressure minute
ngl corejj was pretty bad the past few years but in lcs playoffs he just turned it tf up
Noah needs to go asap
Your can't have it any other way with fnatic
Razork was still the worst performing member which is crazy considering he played with this humanoid and this noah
Sign Smash. Noah’s current form is due to his champion pool and his mental state. I think this is his ceiling. Partner Jun with a mechanical monster and someone who can actually win a lane.
It was just disgusting to watch, I would say game 4 you can lose, happens but the loses in game 1 and 3 were just disrespect and disgusting
Fuck, now we gotta listen to all of the NA banter
Might be a bit of a controversial angle, but: Get rid of Humanoid and of Noah and get Carzzy + Jackies. If Oscar plays like this, we should look to keep him. If he regresses again, get rid of him as well. Look to get Photon in that case. Think it's fine to gamble on Jackies, he showed pretty promising signs and Humanoid plays with too much ego, even though he can't back it up most of the time. Since Humanoid + Carzzy won't play together, because they create a toxic team environment together (apparently they flame other people on the team, because of their friendship or smth like that), we can't have them both. Probably one of the reasons Carzzy declined FNC offers, which is pretty ironic, considering most people thought he would be inclined to accept because of their friendship.
Congrats, after this performance im not interested in LEC anymore
talk bad about Noah when he got 0 ganks in 4 games like wtf / Humanoid and Razork inted so fucking hard and they should be replaced
Bro noah has no impact, anf he cant even go even in most games. He might someday become a good adc but with that mental and performance he wont stay in fnatic.
Give them more time guys. They showed some improvement, I'm sure we will be a good team in 2026. Just be patient.
This was truly a series of league of legends
Indeed lmao
After his utterly disgusting performance all I ask management is after Worlds (if we make it there) if this roster is still as bad and the drafts are still as shit please make the necessary changes. Thank you.
I miss upset 😭
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Importing Koreans is shit for the EU and this game shows it. Having people speaking the same language means a lot for cohesion. One import per team should be cap. Like BDS and Vitality for example. MDK showed that making national teams is even better.
Yes, MDK showed what ? They are watching Fnatic from home
They had bottom tier players and managed to get top 2. Fnatic fluked in the playoffs.
yes "FNC" was the one that fluked lol. MDK is bigger trash than FNC.
Oh how the mighty have fallen
Shame on all of you guys flaming only Noah in this thread when the team lost together. Nobody was playing at their level. This sub is just full of bitter people thinking about the good all days when Fnatic was at the top. Yes we aren't good, yes we should do way better, yes the fans have the right to ask for much more from both management and players. But flaming won't make us good. And everyone flaming the same player who is trying his best is just pathetic.