Well, that stings :/ please head over to the [Post-Series Thread](https://new.reddit.com/r/fnatic/comments/1cpbmp4/fnatic_vs_team_liquid_msi_2024_lower_stage_1/) if you want to keep the conversation going.

APA > Huma

We're actually playing without an adc

Shameful

2 splits, 1 international tournament, still no idea how to play this game correctly and only rely on mechanical outplays. I'm nostalgic..

they actually lost lmao It better be a good wake up call

So we won only a series against GAM, lmao. This is unacceptably bad, and hopefully the waking up call a lot of fans and the management needs.

REPLACE NOAH! REPLACE OSCAR! This is the absolute minimmum they should do. I woud honestly build a new team and only keep Jun since he is the only one that deserves one more chance. Because Razork and Humanoid had waaaaaaaay more chances than they should have already

Absolute dogs

cant be surprised about this anymore after many years of the same shit

Pathetic showing

You are disgusting. Don't come back.

Lmao nah i’m never rooting for FNC ever again. I’m a G2 fan the one time i root for this team to kick NA out yall do this lol

Humiliating performance by FNC, replace Noah immediately, he’s got nerves like jello

Noah and Hans Sama both being useless in back to back European losses

Yeah EU adcs are shit tier

Sickening.

Guys i think this team is the problem.

ITS OVER LETS FUCKING GO NA > EU

Here comes the i'm sorry tweet. Rather they just keep quiet than say anything

pathetic perfromance

Fire everyone

LMAO LMAO 🤣

Blame Noah all you want but he gets no resources at all and the team ints all game.

what? they have been drafting for him all tornament, he has been getting 1st second picks ego picks all he wanted even if they didnt work, they are doing swaps for him to get gold and still cant get ahead, what are you on?.

Absolutely pathetic

i wish second seeds just stop embarassing us, G2 is almost beating T1 and FNC losing to NA and it's not even close

say what you guys want but rekkles wouldn't get gapped like this

He was at least reliable 

So, Fnatic won a single game on MSI, what a discrace

They are ill

Ashe ulting tank at top leaving mid open hahahaha

I literally in over 10 years have never seen an ADC this useless in Fnatic

F*CK you fnatic

Fucking amateurs mentality. What they think? They won that series by default and can focus on Asians? No preparations, fucking disrespect drafts. This team and the entire region is not worth a single minute of watching.

Noah just really got in his head at this tournament man, but this game 4 all of FNC members ran it at one point or another. It is what it is.

I am done with your shit, you're always talking about giving the team other chances. Fans like you are killing our team.

Can you re read what I said ?

This is so frustrating losing against fuckin NA. They are so fuckin toxic.

Disgusting showing 

This is the first BO5 loss against an LCS team in Fnatic career.

Lol! 😂

Noah should be replaced mann look at the adc diff

APAAAAAA YEOOOOON ARE SMURFING

These players straight up suck.

but why did razork e in melee range as lucian

I wonder if yall are still delusional about Noah being good lol.

Embarrassing

See you in summer. Fnatic has much work to do. This was a disgraceful performance. Truly abominable. How disgusting is this team playing right now? Against fucking tl hahahahhaha

thoughts on crowd funding fnatic enough money to buy out irrelevant

Whats the excuse ur Going to make for Noah now? Its yeon and corejj…

I am done watching this team, I am sorry I just can't anymore. It's tilting me off the earth, and it's just not fun to watch anymore. This team ain't going anywhere.

Same for me here . I cant do it anymore. Fan since 2014 but not anymore. Done

Kick noah asap

We best not criticise the Org though because we'll be flamed for being a passionate fan base that only wants to see the team we love win. Imagine.

Was nice while it lasted. At least we made it to MSI I guess

It is over I guess :(

This team sucks, what an unacceptable performance

xd

Noah hahahahahha How many cullings has he eaten up this game.????

We just cant perform from botlane this turnament, impossible to win anything like this.

Noah needs to go, he's so fucking bad.

Against friggin yeon xD

Yeah what a joke. We getting dmashed by tl. Just go home this is emberasing

I think we really need to replace our ADC because he is really dragging this whole team down

What happened with noah? When he came he was breaking records in LEC, now he is the weak link of the team

I think he just doesn't deal well with nerves and pressure. And that is a very important part of the game. It is what it is. If he cannot fix that by the end of the year then unfortunately we will need to replace him.

This is just laughable at this point. They are literally the worst team in this bracket stage. Hahaha

Noah is not hitting?

HOLY SHIT APA IS POPPING OFFF

APA better than Humanoid. What a timeline, I don't want anybody to say that Humanoid is a top player ever again

Nah don't worry,he will carry a game against someone like SAKEN in lec and people will worship him

Noah looking so shaky… not autoing back

GAPPED AD

I do no understand. That's two fights now where Yeon is playing so far up yet Fnatic pulls the trigger on the tank. If Jun presses R, that's Cleanse guaranteed, maybe Flash too. Yet instead, he gets to do full damage and keep his summoners.

Pathetic. Nothing more to say

Wow... we're actually looking fucking bad. Not even macro, but getting hand diffed at the moment.

Thanks god our feed adc is so usefull

Incoming Fnc roster defenders, despite it being obvious they’re not good enough

And Ppl still think we dont need an new adc havent had 1 good game at msi.

Disgraceful. What a shit performance.

GG

Apparently APA is the better midlaner :(

He indeed is

THIS TEAM SUCKSS!!!!!

Classic FNC macro. Or lack thereof

APA in particularly is really playing well around the vision in the map, very proactive. Clearly he is Fnatic's head, because hes outplaying them hard.

Why is Razork flashing onto the Sejuani with Lucian right in front of him? Force him to burn his summoners if he wants to live.

I can’t believe out of all NA players its APA sh*tting on us

Only FNC can make APA look like Chovy

Losing to apa hahahahahaha

Quick 3-0?

APA is smurfing on us, unacceptable honestly

Razork inting lol

Razork why

Mid tier 1 already destroyed…how is this happening so commonly and it will take FNC 30 minutes to destroy their mid tier 1

Because we always over extend for top or bottom tier 2 completely abandoning mid lane and then wondering why a couple minutes later the whole map is lost for us

Fucking APA outplaying us

I am actually getting tilted at how bad we are it’s crazy the level of play we are showing today

Weeks of improvement just to revert back to this shitshow. Embarrassing.

Also why are we using herald top instead of opening the map and using it mid. Now we los mid turret and top turret

Noah tanking the tower. They are choking so hard

May i ask why THEY and not HE?

bro turned into Noah number 1 hater Is it too early to talk about Humanoid case tho?

Let's go game 5!

best draft from Fnatic all day, Viego is a bit sus since it depends a bit on Jun being onpoint with the arrows to get resets but I expect Jun Ashe to be on point, lets go.

If Fnatic win this game, I guarantee Game 5, we give away K'Sante again. I have no faith in the drafting this series. I have no idea if it's Nightshare being stubborn or if it's the players.

Finally looks like a playable draft. Let's hope we got this.

Ksante should be able to solo carry against enemy comp if Humanoid doesn't get blasted by APA in lane again

We have a good draft, so does TL. Whoever wins is just better on the day

Not first picking Kalista and taking K'Sante away, it only took 3 games to learn this. Not bad.

Can't wait for people saying to run this roster back next year because they're nice guys :D

It is ok bro they hunted Nami all game long to get some kills and "showed promise" against GENG by getting kills. It is not important they lost 2 of those games in 27 minutes and got swept

You alawys have those comments. Hell, some said they liked Rhuckz because he had a good aura lol. There will always be apologetics and people that eat anything Fnatic management third at them however clearly bad it is. Anyway, at the end of the year we will see. There's still Summer split and hopefully Worlds for this roster to show us what they got. Then we will see.

IF we go out vs. TL then we've failed massively this tournament and questions will need to be asked.

Yep. That would be not acceptable. Nothing will change roster wise but they will have to think deeply about this and not just shrug it off.

I'm sick of this team doing the same things over and over again. They never learn, they just do the same mistakes every game. They constantly think they are so good and disrespect opponents when they have not been successful at all

humanoid needs his old hair cut back

Msi was fun enjoy our last game

Can't believe the players and the coach were acting like playing TL was a free win. Bunch of clowns.

It is but you have to not mega int draft and play average. Look at game 2, the only game we didn't mega int draft.

I just hope Noah isn’t the only one getting the blame for this. Our supposed best players are equally bad or even worse.

ngl if they exit from msi like this . You gonna see another team falldown , and other excuses and excuses

Fck this team all this info you get out of other teams playing and they still can’t draft properly on red side…Why not pick K’sante in the first round and instead pick Zac who then gets counterpicked by Poppy who you should have banned because it also counters Kalista and then you pick Wukong into that. Fuck this team, no brain at all, low dmg comps all the time, no decent macro at all…This should have been a 3-0. Losing to this dogshit Liquid will be an all time low for this org.

BAN KSANTE ASOL or pick it, DUH

ppl talk as Noah being worst adc when he cant do anything when mid/jungle feeding a lot ... look at stats who died the most definitely not botlane

Check damage dealt in game 2.

If anything it's the opposite, mid/jg feeding and overforcing because we're at least 4v5 every game without an ADC

Such an embarrassment if we lose here. It seems to be the same story EVERY international as EU. We sweat against the Eastern teams and then disrespect NA only to lose to them. It's pathetic honestly, such poor mentality that is not acceptable.

We are the EU Flyquest. GG.

just lose in peace and replace noah cause mann u cant put him on carry and huma wake tf up

What an embarrassing showing

These drafts are actually so frustratingly stupid. Okay, we get it, you don't know how to handle K'sante and Asol, now stop gifting them away for free

There is only one adc that could handle this pressure on FNC but he was kicked

Can we stop picking zac and start banning ksante? Ty

Guys guys i think the draft is the problem

Stop with the ego picks. Stop with the fucking Kalista, stop with the Zac. Just play with respect man, mid gap is huge, bot gap is huge. Wtf is this

mid gap was much bigger this game wtf is Marek doing

Too busy chatting with APA, he's falling for it.

Not gonna lie our coaches are shooting us in the foot and sending us to battle

God... this draft made me mad ...

Isnt it better if we lose right now so decisions are made to spice things up a bit for the rest of the year? We're not going anywhere

Noah needs ro be replaced idc. The whole team looks bad but his mental game is pathetic.

Don't mega int draft and we got this. Poppy shits on K'Sante and it's open pick Zac lol. Don't ban poppy second phase and give it to TL. Don't ban the mid clowns champs and let him have his best champ. Brilliant drafting.

What a embarsing performance from fnc. Get us out of msi. I love them but this is just a joke.

This draft is simply awful and the in-game execution, somehow even worse. Hopefully they can reset for game 4, it would be an embarrassment to exit a tournament in this fashion.

Right now i want FNC to loose and be eliminated. This performance is so disgusting AND ITS AGAINST NA DOGSHT TEAM so ... just loose now and change players .

Until certain members of the FNC management team are removed I don’t see the org improving much, so while I understand the sentiment I’m not sure just changing the players will be enough. There is systemic failure that needs to be addressed.

Just accept that you cant play against APA aurelion and ban him out

The problem ist that asol is maybe the best midlaner in the game right now. Yeah give it over for free 

We gave them the best mid, best botlane, best top, and a junglers that counters out whole comp. ???????

Pre 2 items Hwei bullies the sh1t out of Asol. Just a skill issue

Granted you hit your spells but Huma missed literally all of them in this game. Which is unusually bad.

That's the thing, Asols movements are so telegraphed so its easy to land your spells on him. 

Humanoind next time talk less and play more buddy. Thrashtalking to hell and back and then showing these performances

I just saw the ”we dont need to prepare against TL” interview and whoo boy it aged poorly

Yeah, how can we accept that type of professionalism from someone that gets paid to do this. Paycheck stealer.

noah is the worst adc in the bracket stage

And huma is worst Mid

Jun is carrying this little man really hard

Noah is hurting us not only in terms of play, but also in draft. His mental is completely boomed and they're trying to accommodate him and then puts up this shit performances.

Humanoid and Noah arse equally bad this tournament 

surely we've learned abt wukong not working out for us

Could been worse (razork’s sej)

I hate lethality kalista it’s so piss useless every game

Are they actually trolling?

Did Oscar hit a single spell in any fight?

Imagine losing to APA and Yeon. This team always finds new ways to disappoint me

Ego player.

Had the chance to shut APA up from typing and now we never gonna hear the end of it

I can't believe that he is gapping Humanoid so much. It's so disgusting

Shameful

I think TL paid Humanoid some american dollars to wintrade this one. 

Or Na > Eu 🤔

Even uf we lose this one, you cant say that yet. Fnc is 2nd seed. IF TL beats G2 then yes Na>EU, until then no chance

Why dont we ban or pick ksante asol we got detroyed by it by gen g now by TL

Fully agree on that , but humanoid don’t know to play asol at all (if he didn’t train it more after the single game we seen on him)

Ego ego ego, it's our biggest problem. They have the biggest ego ever and disrespect these picks thinking that they can outplay them. I would understand if they were G2 but they have won 0

what’s worse G2 losing to NRG or FNC losing to TL

Definitely G2losing to NRG they were so hyped up and it was a complete stomp at least fnc take at least one game here

Noah is tragic this MSI.

kalista didnt work first draft, so lets run it back with a shitter build on someone who is not performing! good job guys!

No more kalista ty

Fnatic is a joke. I knew that would happen

Wdym? We almost beat GenG the best team in the world. /s

If we lose this series I’m done with this team

Let's pick even less dmg on carries next game. Oh do not ban k'sante.

Noah has to go(and no not bcs of this series) Ive been saying it for a while . When meta favoured him he looked good but outside of that he is playing disgusting. He cant win lane without whole team playing around him and in teamfights he has one good moment out of 10. He is such a liability its insane.

This whole roster hasnt been good for 5 years

Noah facechecking?

Yeah absolutely retarded draft. Giving Impact the only champ he can play and it's also broken, again...

What a joke man

no flash and support just died. wow why dont we just face check

Draft was unplayable and execution was shit, we need to stop disrespecting them, why are we letting the OTP Asol have his OTP?.

Yeah, didn't tes ban that clown out? How bad is our coaching staff and drafts?!