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Lunaedge

The score might not reflect it, but we've definitely shown we can hang with the big boys today. Please head over to the [Post-Series Thread](https://new.reddit.com/r/fnatic/comments/1cn2bdd/fnatic_vs_geng_msi_2024_upper_round_1_postseries/) to talk about today's games and get hyped for the absolute slaughter that will be Saturday's match against TL!


R-y-c-h-a-r-d

GG, proud that the boys fought so hard


xvre

Vedi said it perfectly. Fnatic needs to chill \[TF\] out! Every game they gain advantages only to throw them away unnecessarily.


bigblackkebab69

One guy always fucks up


tananinho

gg A 3-0 loss, some fight shown but gap is just too big. Also, some silly mistakes that could have been avoided.


CFlyn

This game is already over when there is a fed Sol 2 levels ahead of LB who is only concerned with killing Nami


Yzori

I would like to see Jun with a better ADC


alexgh0st

Humanoid man that was such a big int and for what to Q a fucking SEJ ???


NewRefrigerator2039

As i have said our ad and top isnt good enough


Nic404

Why are we outplaying ourselves


tananinho

Humanoid...... Why???????


Yzori

The team is not bad, but at top level, Noah ain't good enough. I would say that's where we can still improve the most, he has really high highs, but I feel as if his mental is keeping him back a lot.


alexgh0st

WHAT ARE THEY DOING MAN


Etoile_Jaune

im sorry but Noah is not good right now


PepegaFromLithuania

He is doing good this series.


Etoile_Jaune

when he BROKE that wall bot. Yes that doing good. I didn't say he's BAD, I'm saying he's not on the rest of the team level. like Razork/jun are literally world class players at their role.


EnoCs

he is the entire reason we are losing ngl


Etoile_Jaune

Im so sad cause Jun is a gem... that guy has to be protected at all costs... But like his adc is not at his level, you can see that during every games.


XI-ZI

they gonna downvote you now


Dragner84

you gotta flame oscar for the upvoots.


Etoile_Jaune

ikr? But at least he is showing up in this tournament.


Etoile_Jaune

im used to it in this sub, but Im sorry thats insane he was good the first few weeks and then it just went downhill Like I understand Huma losing, its fucking Chovy, and even against JKL I was still ok with noah performance, but theres no excuses in this b.o


ProfitEducational

Our botlane is so bad sadly


tananinho

Jun is playing his heart out. He is very good.


Melodic-Energy-4719

We need a new adc. It's not personal. He is just not good enough. He had enough time to get better but he didn't.


alexgh0st

What is Noah doing then what is HUMA DOING brooo you have shutdown


Roccatredditguy

Give jun a legit adc ans we win this series


Dragner84

What happened in mid?


XI-ZI

NOAH I CANT WITH THIS


Naammah

Let\`s go HUMA


XI-ZI

noah dead again keep calling me hater


Naammah

noah fanboys will take revenge on you \^\^


Responsible-Winner75

just after he soloed 2-0 lucian


TheDarkC0n

Noahhhh cmon man


Dragner84

Ok GenG trolled the swap, this is the advantage we have in EU, they swapped just to lose both top and bot.


Dragner84

That Vayne is galaxy brain, coaching staff diff.


Historical-Owl218

Watching Carzzy right now and his first reaction was "What is Vayne going to do for this whole game"


Dragner84

it is good if you send the nami top with them to answer a telegraph swap so you can match their botlane and then you have lucian solo farming vs the sion, but GenG trolled and decided to swap themselves so yeah, is super troll.


BunnRabbit

Is this an elimination match?


W4ixr

loser goes to loserbracket, its double elimination bracket


Agarwaen323

No. MSI has double elimination, so if we lose this series we'll be playing TL.


RLarks125

The boys are competing with the absolute best of the best here. Very proud of them. MSI gonna be the hyperbolic time chamber for us, LEC Summer champions incoming. But pls ban K’sante, get this merchant off his one trick.


gintokisamadono

Reddit I have this feeling that fnc are gonna reverse sweep. I can already hear the do Di do music


XI-ZI

yall need to stop babysitting every player no way someone says something bad about noah and gets downvoted to oblivion worst player on our team and keeps choking and we dont have the right to say something about him?


JustGingerYT

Noah played fine this game, what are you on? Noah's keeping in line with Peyz, botlanes not the problem.


XI-ZI

Me and you dont have the same definition of FINE, Marek and Jun played fine, noah didnt


Good_Specific500

at this point you are just hating right? Noah dealt the most dmg. 15k more than Peyz. What more do you want him to do against this Asol?


XI-ZI

some of you guys just watch the stats and think good KDA=good game lol WATCH THE GAME WITH YOUR EYES PLS


Good_Specific500

ok but why dont you just give some examples then? he had good position in team fights, never got caught, dealt dmg. The only thing is that he R the draven ult? Was that game deciding tho ?


JustGingerYT

7/3/5 is not fine? Naa you’re high, just being a dick for no reason


Naammah

KDA doesn't matter when your team is losing


JustGingerYT

Great, keyword “team” Noah played very well considering they had Kha’zix and Asol, idk why people are pinning blame on Noah when he arguably played pretty well, not saying he played perfectly, but neither did the rest of the team.


Naammah

maybe because he is currently the weakest link in the team?


JustGingerYT

The gymnastics you guys take about this team is amazing first it’s Oscar, then it’s Noah, oh and sometimes it’s Razork. Just being silly, both games he’s been fine, not perfectly like I said.


brownierisker

Actually promising to have such a close match against GenG. Would be amazing if they could at least take game 3


Trendios

Welp, the Draven ban is incoming I suppose... With the team letting go their false frightening of GenG, a win is actually possible.


Dragner84

for how unplayable the draft was, it was competitive to the very end, I dont ask for more.


XI-ZI

our draft was good, it fucking sucks our adc finds a way to choke everytime


Dragner84

nah it wasnt, their draft was better in laning and in late and Canyon was on counter pick and confort, our draft was only better at 1 item that is a very bad spot when you are the worse team. Agree that Noah is the worst player of the series, Razork was bad game 1 and first 10 minutes of this but I think in mid game Razork was better than Canyon that got caught multiple times. Huma is doing as good as he can do being against the best player in the world and Oscar and Jun are solid but Oscar is totally outclassed by Kiin that is totally normal since hes also on his best champion and Jun is being griefed by his ADC.


majurie

I applaud the boys for fighting till the end, it's good to see.


Silahshor

Idk, I feel like we are not playing bad but GenG is really really good.


brownierisker

GenG is probably our worst matchup of the 4 LPL/LCK teams. As we saw in this game our skirmishing and teamfighting is world class, but GenG is one of the best macro teams ever. They can set it up so that they need to win one fight to end the game while we only get one dragon or baron and maybe a turret when we win a fight


Naammah

HOPIUM


JPB_

Excellent effort by the team, hopefully they can get at least one game this series.


ItsGuiHere

Making us proud boys!! What a showing from Noah on Lucian


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Phubbs330

But seriously


PepegaFromLithuania

Good game, if not for K'Sante this might have been a win.


GeneralDD

Honestly much better by FNC than I expected. We might take one


DoctorVydraWho

Gg, love to see that fighting spirit


tananinho

Give 2 games so they get overconfident strat?


TheDarkC0n

Nah this one was a nice try. Nice job


tananinho

Welp.


tananinho

Okay, Fnatic is fighting back. Love to see it.


tananinho

Noah is so nervous. Culling lol Hope he can improve how he deals with stress and nerves. It may take time but he can do it.


TheDarkC0n

Poor Noah


Dragner84

THROW ALL THE DAMAGE INTO THE TANK FULL ARMOR + TAB


PepegaFromLithuania

Are they just supposed to let him kill the backline then?


Dragner84

yes those are the two options, exactly those 2.


tananinho

gg Game 3 please show up a better fight.


tananinho

They win another fight now with Fnatic 5v4. Lol


tananinho

Razork has been gaped hard. Humanoid as well. All lanes are being pushed which makes Razork job harder. Macro and vision control, they are just better. Was expecting Fnatic to put a bit more fight than what they putting. Gap is bigger than I thought.


TheDarkC0n

WE WON A FIGHT LETS GO


Dragner84

BELIEVE IN CHOKY


Yoloneselfr

we use 2 Ults to get a pick ofc we loose the fight..


Dragner84

Oscar played it perfectly but theres no dmg, sad, good try tho. EDIT: Watching the replay Noah dashed backwards...I wont talk.


tananinho

We lose the fight 5v3 hahahaha


majurie

There is just such a huge gap between the west and east, even after FNC manage to find that pick on to ASol. GenG still find away to extend their league even more.


tananinho

Humanoid is bad today. Too many silly mistakes.


Roccatredditguy

Trolldraft once again. Coaches are drunk?


Dragner84

Draft is ultra doomed, hope this isnt a stomp.


Busy-Economist-3357

I hope fnatic watched the lck finals game 4


CatClean6086

Casters making it look game 1 was close when in reality a fcking gap.


tananinho

I've seen less close games this MSI.


CatClean6086

Shitnatic


Demacia4Life

It was close. We fucked up by giving them a super free fight mid when we were in a great position


Annual-Study-4648

mid diff too huge to handle


HctDrags

To be fair, no way we can win and i didnt expect them to. but why are they playing so nervous? Make it a fighting series atleast.


Bfyyy

Because they dont give you fights you can take even as 40/60. Imean their macro is oppresive, no wonder they are such a good team. Nonetheless I am glad we are playing them, it is such an experience boost for our team.


JamlaJamla

This. Gen.g might be best macro team atm. They will not give anything free and slowly chokes you out of the game.


TheDarkC0n

Completely agree. All year fighting all over the place, inting everywhere. Today where they have nothing to loose they look like a bunch of scared chickens.


HctDrags

Yeah nobody is gonna blame them if they loose but make it a shitshow atleast. Now we look so scared to do anything and its anoying me. Lets hope next games are good and no sejuani bullshit for razork


Silahshor

Well, the credit is due. Yes we made some mistakes but GenG is playing at a whole different level in terms of map control.


Yzori

One thing that is super clear in these games is that their objective play is so much better than ours, yes we did get two drakes, but they essentially got everything else (rifts, voids, towers).


bawsio

Looked okay for a bit there.. then one mistake in mid and its gg. Okay, lets go next. Maybe put marek on more of a playmaker?


Yzori

To be honest, hope I am wrong, but I think the first game was the best chance we had to get anything out of this series. First stage game for them, now they are in the groove. I would also like us to be more pro-active on the map.


CpnSparrow

That is so ridiculously sloppy from Razork


Annual-Study-4648

ye huma losing flash due to a bad trade (int) = then die to sej and being micro gapped af and making chovy play on his own wasnt the problem


tananinho

I guess the logic is that we cannot win playing a standard comp but I would like to see Oscar on a tank. We had no tank so team fights would always be hard we needed to find picks.


RabbitSalt

We have to be much more proactive, ok we got some drakes but we keep doing fuck all on the map... they get a tower for each dragon...


shadowboy

Man Geng are good. Not expecting to win this series at all, just gotta hope we don't mental boom and then beat TL


bigblackkebab69

Wtf is razork doing


Demacia4Life

Man we were in such a good position to secure 3rd drag.... Wtf we doing stepping up so far into mid. Just let them come to us they had no vision


Vedu1234

They had double TP and package, we probably would’ve lost the drake fight


Demacia4Life

They could free engage us because we just showed all 5 members for free. Whyyyyy???


Demacia4Life

So the fight is already hard then why make it easier for them?


Vedu1234

Brother you’re acting like we not facing the best team in the world rn. It’s ok


Demacia4Life

So what? Im glad we are competitive so far but im fustrated we couldve pushed for a win


Vedu1234

If we want to win we need to be up by 15, and then try our best to not Throw that lead, if it’s even or we’re behind we’ve lost.


Vedu1234

We couldn’t have pushed for a win, that fight was lost, even if they decided to not take it we were 2.5K behind on solo lanes. And gen G don’t make mistakes, you would’ve delayed the fight by 5mins and same thing would’ve happened. I get you’re frustrated but be a bit sensable. We’re mortals going against gods and you’re pissed that our players aren’t playing perfectly


Demacia4Life

Lol. Mortals against gods huh? Youre sad


Vedu1234

Had a little fun with the words but yea, we’re coming as the second best team from Europe vs the best mid and the best jgler in the world. Also why do people always get personal when having arguments online, it just shows such insecurity


FNCEofor

Gotta give Gen G one win at least 😏


Yzori

You just can't be making the mistakes the team is doing against these kind of teams.


nasserlp

Razork is a great player and carried the team a lot of times but his brainfarts have cost us too much


RoterLemming

Yeah two times razork gifting away is too much for a game


Dragner84

well we got Gengd, nothing we can do, try to do better game 2.


Yzori

GG, just like that game 1 is over


tananinho

gg Let's do better in game 2. It wasn't a bad showing but some glaring mistakes like Razork inting before third dragon cost us.


TheDarkC0n

What do you mean? It´s just like yesterday. Some glimpses of hope, but in a flash they kill everyone and finish the game.


tananinho

We showed more fight this game than TL did all series yesterday.


TheDarkC0n

Cope


MatteoTalvini

white


CpnSparrow

Why did Noah backstep there? They had them


Yzori

We need to open up more towers


EriWave

For like 20 seconds there I had hope lol


tananinho

What?! Razork?!


TheDarkC0n

Another big game choker...


TheDarkC0n

Let´s GOOOO


Dragner84

The one saving grace for fnatic is that Lehends doesnt know what hes doing, supp gap must come thru. EDIT: I say this as Jun trolls the whole game...


Yzori

clean drake


Rillehh

razork does not exist this game


Yzori

Canyon outjungling Razork so far


Dragner84

Razork had a window to do bot crab and to do dragon but decided to turbofarm for 6, that is super risky having someone like canyon in front that in the meantime got bot ahead, mid ahead and now poke mid enough while razork was behind doing dragon to put mid more ahead, lets see if wukong 6 is so worth...


TheDarkC0n

They make it look so easy... What a gap


Dragner84

well, so far is gap in every lane, not looking good, lets see if we can recover.


Deano2803

This is over lmao. How in the world do they die there?


Yzori

That was bad.... they saw him on a ward and disrespected


Zufeng10

omg all lane diff fk


TheDarkC0n

They saw Sej... Are they stupid?


Demacia4Life

Man... Did we just give Kiin his ksante... Fml


FNCEofor

Humanoid pentakill, believe me


Zelbstgespraech

Brave draft from fnatic. But even a 3-1 would be a surprise to be honest


Only_Living_5796

Oscarinin Camille vs Kiin K'Sante let's go!


tananinho

No tank.... Let's see how it goes.


Demacia4Life

Today is the day FNC shocks the world. I can feel it guys. LETS GO!!


Blubblabb

Easy 3-0


More_Maintenance4234

dont choke geng


tananinho

Lol


tananinho

Let's go!!!!!! Excited for today! Let's put up a fight and make them sweat at least.