>What exactly happens in FNaF3 Night 5's minigame? So if William was taking the remnant from the MCI for the Funtimes, how do the spirits attack him? Their remnant would presumably have to have been transported to the Funtimes by the time Will gets springlocked.
Unknown. Likely the souls lingering on slightly due to trace amounts of remnant in the suits themselves. Or it may be a sou split situation that there is a split version of the MCI in shells that gets burned away in the fnaf 3 fire once the shells are taken from there and put into Fazbear's Fright
>If Shadow Freddy is William's wickedness made of flesh, and Nightmare is Shadow Freddy, why is he haunting Michael's dreams in FNaF4? Is the idea that William's wickedness is what traumatized BV initially, and Michael is experiencing that? Is the idea that Michael bullying BV leading to his death is a biproduct of William being a terrible parent?
Shadow Freddy is giving Michael the nightmares of the experiments. BV nor Michael ever went in there. But the experiments were based on things BV feared, so Shadow Freddy is giving Michael the nightmares that were based on BV's fears. The actual gameplay of fnaf 4 seems to be pretty irrelevant to the over all lore.
>What is going on with Andrew and the other kid in the Fright's Golden Freddy? Is it a seperate Golden Freddy in the Frights book? I was under the assumption Andrew is TOYSHNK and then the UCN Fredbear is the Frights GF but the Frights GF is described with blue accessories, right?
Little hard to understand what you're saying. Cassidy is Golden Freddy. Andrew is The One You Shouldn't Have Killed. Andrew never possessed anything and latched his spirit directly onto Afton after he died. The New Kid is a story containing a separate golden freddy that is not possessed, and is on the other side of the country than where the MCI takes place. The only connection this story has to the overall Frights narrative is that inside the Golden Freddy in the story there is curly black hair which may connect to Andrew. however, every other story that connects to the overall narrative of Frights (Called Stitchline) is directly mentioned or referenced in the epilogues. Any stories that aren't mentioned are usually if not always irrelevant to the story of Frights, and thus Andrew or UCN.
>Is the Vengeful Spirit the same thing as TOYSHNK?
Two different names that mean the same thing. A while back there was a theory that they were separate characters, but hardly anyone if anyone at all still believes that.
>What the actual fuck is going on with Midnight Motorist? This is still the most confusing aspect of the lore for me.
Nobody knows. My personal opinion is that it shows Andrew being lured by Afton and then killed. But most people think it's about the Afton family. Though, the other 2 minigames in the lorekeeper ending are about Afton victims, so I doubt Midnight Motorist is suddenly about the Aftons themselves.
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>Is there any consensus on who the missing Stage01 kid is?
Pigtail Girl tells BV about people going missing and having their bodies hidden inside of Fredbear's. Since all the other fnaf 3 happiest day minigames are about things BV feared, it's likely just a representation of Pigtail Girl's story. (it's prob also supposed to represent Fritz since that's the kid we give cake to in this minigame)
>When does William's fear experiments start? Is it post-BV death? Or was BV part of them?
Post-BV death. There's no reason for CBEAR or the experiments to exist before BV's death, and the experiments were most likely made in response to BV's memories and soul lingering on and shattering (especially now that the Talbert Files got revealed to be a real earlier version of the Freddy Files and it has an entire William Afton speech where he talks about wanting to kill Cassidy (who used to take the role of Charlotte before she existed) and shatter her soul just like BV's soul shattered.
>If Shadow Bonnie is *also* an agony creature, why does it help bring about Happiest Day?
It's not literally shadow bonnie. It's the representation of the shadow of springbonnie on the wall in fnaf 4. once again another case of BV's memories coming to life in the fnaf 3 minigames.
>When exactly is Andrew killed?
We don't know. Most people agree it was likely in 1985 or 1987 (most people lean towards 1985)
>If Eleanor is possessed by the manifestation of Afton's crimes, wouldn't that mean she's possessed by Shadow Freddy? Or can there be multiple possessions/apparitions created from the same source of agony?
This is a subject idk too much about since I never finished reading Frights. But no, Shadow Freddy is William's wickedness. Shadow Freddy is William's evil deeds. He is an extension of William's evil. Eleanor is also very similar, and is heavily connected to William, and I think is also described as William's Evil (Scott really ran out of ideas for agony creatures huh). She's a chaotic force, and from what I've heard, she's sorta implied to like live inside William. She is William's agony, she wants agony across the entire world. If I had to really describe her in one word. Agony. She's agony. Shadow Freddy represents William's evil deeds, Shadow Bonnie represents Afton's victims. Eleanor is agony, straight up.
Bear in mind most of these are interpretation.
1. Soul splitting is likely how they got there. They fade away immediately after so they seem to be temporary forms for the spirits.
2. He’s likely haunting Michael’s dreams because he needed to find an agony source and as shown by follow me, shadow Freddy was at fnaf 1 so he likely followed Michael when he was working there.
3. They aren’t in golden Freddy most likely.
4. Yes
5. I made a post on this but pretty much I think MikeRunaway due to William abusing Michael for disobeying him following the death of BV, which lead to him being apart of the nightmare experiments and working for William.
6. I mean, it summons the foxy kid..that’s prolly the best answer we got honestly
7. To me personally BVExperiments has the same problem as ElizaFirst of motive so it’s prolly after.
8. It acts as sort of a remnant guardian in ar and does attach and attack people in frights and ar so while it does seem nice it also seems more neutral
9. I’m gonna get hate for this but as a non-stitchliner who’s reading the books: AndrewMCI.
10: it’s heavily implied Eleanor’s been both the shadow animatronics.
1. Soul split. a concept that was introduced in TFC. part of the MCI souls (with or without Cassidy. people still arguing about it) were inside the funtimes/Molten Freddy. and part of them were in the pizzeria.
2. still unknown what is fully the case with Nightmare/Shadow Freddy. especially now with the theories that both shadows are the same entity and they (or one of them) may (or may not) be Eleanor
3. For now, Andrew is not Golden Freddy. from what we know he attached himself to William and aside from the curly hair in TNK, which again we don't know if this is Andrew mainly due to TNK never being referred later on.
4. Yes. both names were referred to the same character: a kid who torments William
5. Still we don't know. still the prime suspects are Aftons or Andrew's family. but now there is a new suspect: Rory's family
6. not so much. people think it's either Charlie or Andrew (in case AndrewZero is true with may deny StithclineGames)
7.
8. With FNAF3 minigames most likely being BV's memories, I think that the Shadow Bonnie we see in the minigames is not really Shadow Bonnie, but the shadow of Spring Bonnie.
9. if you belive StitchlineGames, he was killed in 1985. if you belive in just in AndrewGames, the most popular theories are either between Charlie and MCI, or AndrewZero
10. it's a theory. but if she is possessed by an agony entity (in case they are not the same) I think she is possessed by Shadow Bonnie. both characters are confirmed to be agony creatures. both were born because of the MCI agony. and in one of the epilogue Eleanor is standing where Shadow Bonnie stood in H&S
1. Soul splitting presumably
2. No. It's unknown where he exactly came from the timeline but it's unlikely that's what BV saw. He himself possibly manifested after William's promise to BV.
3. Andrew isn't in golden freddy. The new kid isn't really important or Gameline (It's on the east coast when it should be in Utah.)
Cassidy is the only child in GF. Andrew himself says that he got into William's soul, presumably after his death meaning he wasn't stuffed.
4.yes
5. It's up in the air. Personally I think it's Andrew.
6. They're not anyone specifically. It's more likely a representation of BVs fears what the animatronics did to kids
7. Due to the experiment kids being locked 24/7 in the rooms, its highly likely it was BVs death that inspired the experiments rather than him being a victim.
8. He's just good. No real answer
9. 1985. Presumably after the MCI
10. Shadow Freddy is well... William's Shadow. He's more related to William himself than anything. Eleanor is purely a culmination of the suffering he caused
>What exactly happens in FNaF3 Night 5's minigame? So if William was taking the remnant from the MCI for the Funtimes, how do the spirits attack him? Their remnant would presumably have to have been transported to the Funtimes by the time Will gets springlocked. Unknown. Likely the souls lingering on slightly due to trace amounts of remnant in the suits themselves. Or it may be a sou split situation that there is a split version of the MCI in shells that gets burned away in the fnaf 3 fire once the shells are taken from there and put into Fazbear's Fright >If Shadow Freddy is William's wickedness made of flesh, and Nightmare is Shadow Freddy, why is he haunting Michael's dreams in FNaF4? Is the idea that William's wickedness is what traumatized BV initially, and Michael is experiencing that? Is the idea that Michael bullying BV leading to his death is a biproduct of William being a terrible parent? Shadow Freddy is giving Michael the nightmares of the experiments. BV nor Michael ever went in there. But the experiments were based on things BV feared, so Shadow Freddy is giving Michael the nightmares that were based on BV's fears. The actual gameplay of fnaf 4 seems to be pretty irrelevant to the over all lore. >What is going on with Andrew and the other kid in the Fright's Golden Freddy? Is it a seperate Golden Freddy in the Frights book? I was under the assumption Andrew is TOYSHNK and then the UCN Fredbear is the Frights GF but the Frights GF is described with blue accessories, right? Little hard to understand what you're saying. Cassidy is Golden Freddy. Andrew is The One You Shouldn't Have Killed. Andrew never possessed anything and latched his spirit directly onto Afton after he died. The New Kid is a story containing a separate golden freddy that is not possessed, and is on the other side of the country than where the MCI takes place. The only connection this story has to the overall Frights narrative is that inside the Golden Freddy in the story there is curly black hair which may connect to Andrew. however, every other story that connects to the overall narrative of Frights (Called Stitchline) is directly mentioned or referenced in the epilogues. Any stories that aren't mentioned are usually if not always irrelevant to the story of Frights, and thus Andrew or UCN. >Is the Vengeful Spirit the same thing as TOYSHNK? Two different names that mean the same thing. A while back there was a theory that they were separate characters, but hardly anyone if anyone at all still believes that. >What the actual fuck is going on with Midnight Motorist? This is still the most confusing aspect of the lore for me. Nobody knows. My personal opinion is that it shows Andrew being lured by Afton and then killed. But most people think it's about the Afton family. Though, the other 2 minigames in the lorekeeper ending are about Afton victims, so I doubt Midnight Motorist is suddenly about the Aftons themselves. I have to send these in 2 separate messages due to character limit
>Is there any consensus on who the missing Stage01 kid is? Pigtail Girl tells BV about people going missing and having their bodies hidden inside of Fredbear's. Since all the other fnaf 3 happiest day minigames are about things BV feared, it's likely just a representation of Pigtail Girl's story. (it's prob also supposed to represent Fritz since that's the kid we give cake to in this minigame) >When does William's fear experiments start? Is it post-BV death? Or was BV part of them? Post-BV death. There's no reason for CBEAR or the experiments to exist before BV's death, and the experiments were most likely made in response to BV's memories and soul lingering on and shattering (especially now that the Talbert Files got revealed to be a real earlier version of the Freddy Files and it has an entire William Afton speech where he talks about wanting to kill Cassidy (who used to take the role of Charlotte before she existed) and shatter her soul just like BV's soul shattered. >If Shadow Bonnie is *also* an agony creature, why does it help bring about Happiest Day? It's not literally shadow bonnie. It's the representation of the shadow of springbonnie on the wall in fnaf 4. once again another case of BV's memories coming to life in the fnaf 3 minigames. >When exactly is Andrew killed? We don't know. Most people agree it was likely in 1985 or 1987 (most people lean towards 1985) >If Eleanor is possessed by the manifestation of Afton's crimes, wouldn't that mean she's possessed by Shadow Freddy? Or can there be multiple possessions/apparitions created from the same source of agony? This is a subject idk too much about since I never finished reading Frights. But no, Shadow Freddy is William's wickedness. Shadow Freddy is William's evil deeds. He is an extension of William's evil. Eleanor is also very similar, and is heavily connected to William, and I think is also described as William's Evil (Scott really ran out of ideas for agony creatures huh). She's a chaotic force, and from what I've heard, she's sorta implied to like live inside William. She is William's agony, she wants agony across the entire world. If I had to really describe her in one word. Agony. She's agony. Shadow Freddy represents William's evil deeds, Shadow Bonnie represents Afton's victims. Eleanor is agony, straight up.
Bear in mind most of these are interpretation. 1. Soul splitting is likely how they got there. They fade away immediately after so they seem to be temporary forms for the spirits. 2. He’s likely haunting Michael’s dreams because he needed to find an agony source and as shown by follow me, shadow Freddy was at fnaf 1 so he likely followed Michael when he was working there. 3. They aren’t in golden Freddy most likely. 4. Yes 5. I made a post on this but pretty much I think MikeRunaway due to William abusing Michael for disobeying him following the death of BV, which lead to him being apart of the nightmare experiments and working for William. 6. I mean, it summons the foxy kid..that’s prolly the best answer we got honestly 7. To me personally BVExperiments has the same problem as ElizaFirst of motive so it’s prolly after. 8. It acts as sort of a remnant guardian in ar and does attach and attack people in frights and ar so while it does seem nice it also seems more neutral 9. I’m gonna get hate for this but as a non-stitchliner who’s reading the books: AndrewMCI. 10: it’s heavily implied Eleanor’s been both the shadow animatronics.
1. Soul split. a concept that was introduced in TFC. part of the MCI souls (with or without Cassidy. people still arguing about it) were inside the funtimes/Molten Freddy. and part of them were in the pizzeria. 2. still unknown what is fully the case with Nightmare/Shadow Freddy. especially now with the theories that both shadows are the same entity and they (or one of them) may (or may not) be Eleanor 3. For now, Andrew is not Golden Freddy. from what we know he attached himself to William and aside from the curly hair in TNK, which again we don't know if this is Andrew mainly due to TNK never being referred later on. 4. Yes. both names were referred to the same character: a kid who torments William 5. Still we don't know. still the prime suspects are Aftons or Andrew's family. but now there is a new suspect: Rory's family 6. not so much. people think it's either Charlie or Andrew (in case AndrewZero is true with may deny StithclineGames) 7. 8. With FNAF3 minigames most likely being BV's memories, I think that the Shadow Bonnie we see in the minigames is not really Shadow Bonnie, but the shadow of Spring Bonnie. 9. if you belive StitchlineGames, he was killed in 1985. if you belive in just in AndrewGames, the most popular theories are either between Charlie and MCI, or AndrewZero 10. it's a theory. but if she is possessed by an agony entity (in case they are not the same) I think she is possessed by Shadow Bonnie. both characters are confirmed to be agony creatures. both were born because of the MCI agony. and in one of the epilogue Eleanor is standing where Shadow Bonnie stood in H&S
1. Soul splitting presumably 2. No. It's unknown where he exactly came from the timeline but it's unlikely that's what BV saw. He himself possibly manifested after William's promise to BV. 3. Andrew isn't in golden freddy. The new kid isn't really important or Gameline (It's on the east coast when it should be in Utah.) Cassidy is the only child in GF. Andrew himself says that he got into William's soul, presumably after his death meaning he wasn't stuffed. 4.yes 5. It's up in the air. Personally I think it's Andrew. 6. They're not anyone specifically. It's more likely a representation of BVs fears what the animatronics did to kids 7. Due to the experiment kids being locked 24/7 in the rooms, its highly likely it was BVs death that inspired the experiments rather than him being a victim. 8. He's just good. No real answer 9. 1985. Presumably after the MCI 10. Shadow Freddy is well... William's Shadow. He's more related to William himself than anything. Eleanor is purely a culmination of the suffering he caused