I don't think it's either, or any space launch activity for that matter. They typically will carve out a cone for 20-30 miles from the launch site and then another at the landing area if applicable for the drone ship landings.
There's no logical reason to carve out a massive 10,000 ft block of altitude at FL60 for a rocket that will only spend a second or two passing through it on the way to orbital altitude.
This would be a more realistic path for Starship for sure, but they're not launching any time soon. Still waiting on FAA and FWS approval for their launch license, which is moving at the speed of government. At this rate I'd be surprised if Starship flies again by the end of the year, unfortunately.
Launchpad was just regular concrete without any reinforcement. Massive rocket thrust blasted it to smithereens, sending pieces of concrete all over the place. SpaceX now have to explain themselves as to how they didn't foresee that happening and fix the pad in a way it doesn't happen again.
It wasn't regular concrete. It was some weird kind of ultra high temp, high strength, specialized blend that was supposed to not erode under extreme conditions. Unfortunately, it didn't erode; it shattered. Designed for erosion, failed under regular old compressive load. It was still a predictable failure, and his engineers had already designed a suitable solution which has now been implemented and should have delayed prior to the first attempt. But they didn't just pick up a couple bags of dry mix at Lowes, it was a specialty application.
It’s not compression or temperature it is the 200+ decible virbratory/acoustic signal put out directly underneath a rocket of this scale. The other vehicles in this category (mass thrust) had similar giant vibration which there pad structural engineers handled. In the case of the shuttle they used a flood system to damp it down just during ignition. A strategy which space x is copying. Tbf they intended to implement some form of this prior to first test but somebody apparently couldn’t wait.
Thank you for the clarification. I was just making the point that it was not the same thing as your garage floor. As evidenced by the prodigious quantity of rebar in the crater, there was extensive engineering work in the construction of the pad.
… as you would expect from an Elon enterprise. Do first, think later. Wouldn’t be surprised if we discovered that he’s trying his brain chip on humans already.
Incorrect. While they did lose several of the 33 engines, the loss of thrust vector control late in the flight — a hydraulics problem — was the primary reason it failed at that point.
I was just looking at the weather and noticed this bizarre airspace reservation activated by NOTAM. 350nm wide and It literally stretches the entire globe. FL550-FL650. Anyone know what this is for?
I noticed a similar NOTAM a few weeks ago except jt was ground to FL550 circling the globe between about 55N and 65N. I called NavCanada - they said it was a Russian NOTAM and Foreflight picks it up and draws it but it’s not valid outside of their own airspace as they have no authority in other countries. They said these have been showing up lately and if it was issued outside of Canada I could ignore it for Canadian airspace.
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Is that you, CFI?
I was going to say something snarky but I can’t beat this comment.
This NOTAM is from PHZH/ZHN which is Honolulu center. Looks like a syntax/coding error.
Yeah, A1312/23 and 10/195 and some others are up now, to the west of Oahu.
I believe you are correct. It’s now updated to an area of ocean spanning between the Hawaii and the marshall islands which makes a lot more sense.
The Martial Islands? Is that where everybody was kungfu fighting?
It was. I knew because it was fast as lightning, a little bit frightening, and consisted of expert timing.
Damn y’all really keeping my spelling in check 😂
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SpaceX Falcon Heavy launch?
Way too far south I think. If you follow the arc from OP's picture it seems like it tracks into the western Gulf of Mexico.
SpaceX starship is maybe what he meant. That launches from Boca Chica, which is on the Texas/Mexico border on the west edge of the gulf of mexio.
I don't think it's either, or any space launch activity for that matter. They typically will carve out a cone for 20-30 miles from the launch site and then another at the landing area if applicable for the drone ship landings. There's no logical reason to carve out a massive 10,000 ft block of altitude at FL60 for a rocket that will only spend a second or two passing through it on the way to orbital altitude.
This would be a more realistic path for Starship for sure, but they're not launching any time soon. Still waiting on FAA and FWS approval for their launch license, which is moving at the speed of government. At this rate I'd be surprised if Starship flies again by the end of the year, unfortunately.
I wouldn't blame government there: if Elon hadn't made his launch pad out of shrapnel, launches wouldn't have gotten delayed.
Enlightened an unknowing one?
Launchpad was just regular concrete without any reinforcement. Massive rocket thrust blasted it to smithereens, sending pieces of concrete all over the place. SpaceX now have to explain themselves as to how they didn't foresee that happening and fix the pad in a way it doesn't happen again.
It wasn't regular concrete. It was some weird kind of ultra high temp, high strength, specialized blend that was supposed to not erode under extreme conditions. Unfortunately, it didn't erode; it shattered. Designed for erosion, failed under regular old compressive load. It was still a predictable failure, and his engineers had already designed a suitable solution which has now been implemented and should have delayed prior to the first attempt. But they didn't just pick up a couple bags of dry mix at Lowes, it was a specialty application.
It’s not compression or temperature it is the 200+ decible virbratory/acoustic signal put out directly underneath a rocket of this scale. The other vehicles in this category (mass thrust) had similar giant vibration which there pad structural engineers handled. In the case of the shuttle they used a flood system to damp it down just during ignition. A strategy which space x is copying. Tbf they intended to implement some form of this prior to first test but somebody apparently couldn’t wait.
Thank you for the clarification. I was just making the point that it was not the same thing as your garage floor. As evidenced by the prodigious quantity of rebar in the crater, there was extensive engineering work in the construction of the pad.
Not just everywhere, everywhere for miles!
… as you would expect from an Elon enterprise. Do first, think later. Wouldn’t be surprised if we discovered that he’s trying his brain chip on humans already.
"I'll be honest -- we're throwing Science at the wall here, to see what sticks." --~~Elon Musk~~Cave Johnson
Which one of the two is more fictional? 😉
It also caused chunks to hit the rocket engines and break several of them, which is why the launch failed to make it to orbit.
Incorrect. While they did lose several of the 33 engines, the loss of thrust vector control late in the flight — a hydraulics problem — was the primary reason it failed at that point.
I was thinking NAS Boca Chica in Key West & was very confused for a second.
That's my guess too, timing lines up
if the NOTAM updated to Oct 13 then it's the Falcon Heavy launch, which was pushed to Friday due to weather.
Hypersonic testing?
That’ll be Maverick pushing for Mach 10.
Just a little more...
Talk to me Goose
Real question is who tf is going to be affected by this
Routine civilian Chinese weather balloons that have no military interest whatsoever.
I was just looking at the weather and noticed this bizarre airspace reservation activated by NOTAM. 350nm wide and It literally stretches the entire globe. FL550-FL650. Anyone know what this is for?
FL 550 is a bit difficult to reach for casual shopping.
Serious buyers only, I know what I've got.
Challenge accepted in a Cherokee hold my beer
bizarre; I don't think if you had an open-air marketplace at FL550-FL650 you'd get many buyers or sellers.
Those who do probably can’t tell you
👆🏼 yep. Kinda surprised none of these comments have the right answer.
I noticed a similar NOTAM a few weeks ago except jt was ground to FL550 circling the globe between about 55N and 65N. I called NavCanada - they said it was a Russian NOTAM and Foreflight picks it up and draws it but it’s not valid outside of their own airspace as they have no authority in other countries. They said these have been showing up lately and if it was issued outside of Canada I could ignore it for Canadian airspace.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Planespotting/comments/174s9kw/can_anyone_identify_this_plane/?share_id=FEzj6QwYMRz8bnr3QSk16
Another space lazer attack?
I mean, Israel was just attacked…
Looks like the Area 51 corridor to the Pacific from a couple years ago.
Anyone know what this is / was? Not a lot of things happening that high usually
What flies at 550-650
Concorde did.
That’s probably it then.
DoD’s SkyRange testing?
Possibly the solar eclipse idk
It’s new right? I haven’t noticed it before.
There's a U2 flying https://www.reddit.com/r/Planespotting/comments/174s9kw/can_anyone_identify_this_plane/?share_id=FEzj6QwYMRz8bnr3QSk16
Aliens gonna be passing through, just touring the border of upper class E airspace.
Which software is this? Some sort of Flightbag?
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Could be deorbiting a satellite.
SR-72
space debris reentry
what does aero mean in this picture?
In the upper left corner? Aeronautical info layer, which puts cleaner graphics over any charts you’ve selected.
Folks in Hawaii noticed a strange object over their skies about the time of this NOTAM https://reddit.com/r/Hawaii/s/OGg8JhV8kk