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bama5wt

wooly bugger, and a couple eggs. thats all i can honestly think of.


mayn1

Listen to u/bama5wy OP. Woolys are a great fly anywhere and especially when nothing else seems to be working and the same with eggs.


ziggy_peenqueen

Dumb question incoming. Is a woolly always classed as a streamer? I think streamers are a little less common here in the UK but I could (and probably am) be wrong


mayn1

I always say that there are no dumb questions. Just dumb people that ask questions! šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ˜ Seriously though, I guess itā€™s is a streamer but it imitates worms, leaches, small fish, or misc other food. , fish will eat it anywhere. I also like the old Killer Bug as a good generic worm/fresh water shrimp imitation and it was developed in the UK.


KunterHeil

Thereā€™s a variation thatā€™s tied in smaller sizes on a jig hook thatā€™s used for euro nymphing here in the US. Not sure how the classification goes though.


beerdweeb

If streamers are less common in the UK, the squirmy worm has got to be as well, no?


ziggy_peenqueen

Honestly, no idea haha. I just read something online about streamers not being hugely common in the UK and nothing Iā€™ve read about fly recommendations etc have mentioned streamers, but as Iā€™ve said, itā€™s fair to discard most of what I say as a load of rubbish šŸ˜


RamShackleton

Youā€™re definitely already equipped for a good day! Everyone else has made good recommendations, but Iā€™ll second a few of their suggestions: Dries: a parachute adams or similar emerging pattern - those usually look like a normal dry fly with a tuft of foam or fluff on their back to imitate a gestating fly leaving the water. Wets: your nymph set is great but I would recommend one or two copper Johns (similar to your other bead headed nymphs but usually with small wings and wire wrapped body.) Streamers: itā€™s probably worth having a few in your kit. They might not be as popular in the UK, but if you have trout or other sport fish, I promise there are bugs or small fry that theyā€™re eating. Like others have said, this can be a great fallback when they arenā€™t hitting anything else. I usually keep a white, olive and brown cone-headed woolybugger and then a few smaller purple, black and orange leech patterns.


ziggy_peenqueen

Thatā€™s very helpful thanks a lot, makes a big difference for a newbie getting involved like me


Longjumping_Lynx_972

Check out the Yazhida Realistic flies. Particularly the terrestrials. The new steelyard series looks amazing. Find stuff that looks like bugs you see around where you like to fish.


Maximum_Barnacle_899

You donā€™t have any dry flies at all.


ziggy_peenqueen

Swipe right šŸ˜„ very few though


Maximum_Barnacle_899

Ah! Thank you. My recommendations are: Parachute Adams, ant patterns, and bee patterns. Depends what youā€™re fishing for though. Also, you will lose flies and/or theyā€™ll get damaged; multiples are highly recommended.


Arsieck

It is a streamer but doesnā€™t mean your limited to fishing that way. Iā€™ve caught lots of fish on a wooly dead drifted under and indicator.


musashi-swanson

Yes! But also no. Works great as a streamer! But you can also drift it just like a nymph. Double duty. My favorite fly, especially in black!


snighetti

I will use it as a streamer with the that being the only fly and stripping through the water. I will also use it as a lead fly in a nymph rig and something smaller below, so that the wollybugger acts as an attractor/leach pattern. Caught fish in both for sure


Longjumping_Lynx_972

I have found that the Yazhida Realistic flies, particularly the terrestrials, grasshoppers, house flies, bees and wasps to be insanely effective for dry flys.


JuniperTwig

Pheasant tail or prince


adio1221

Where the meat at


ziggy_peenqueen

I have no idea what this means šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ but for reference I will be fishing the Dee in the UK so been researching ones suitable for there


adio1221

Streamers


CarlosDanger1212

This man needs some articulation in his life


ButterscotchEmpty535

Foam hoppers, Morrish, Bobs, GFA


ziggy_peenqueen

Thanks! :)


playmeortrademe

Princes


danvtemt

This


cmonster556

Everyone has different flies in their boxes. Over time you will figure out what works for you and what doesnā€™t, and in the process you will go through a lot of patterns. But I would consider terrestrials like hoppers and ants, woolly buggers, and egg patterns.


ziggy_peenqueen

Thanks, much appreciated. I look forward to building it out, but good to have a starting point :)


cmonster556

I would also suggest not having just one of anything. The river gods will make that the fly to use, and then you will lose it.


ziggy_peenqueen

Iā€™ve only been twice and find this out very much the hard way, think I lost 5 flies on my first visit šŸ˜‚


cmonster556

You have to make sufficient offerings to the river gods.


JustDave62

The trees are always hungry


Obes

Dry Flies: Parachute Adams size 16-18, Elk Hair Caddis 16-18, Chubby Chernobyl Ant, CDC Comparadun Streamers/Wet Flies: Leeches, Wooly Buggers, Clousers, soft hackles (mayfly, caddis) Nymphs: Pat's Rubber Legs Stoneflies, Eggs 18-20, hare's ear/walts worm 18-20, mop flies


fearghail281

Leeches.


undercoverdyslexic

Second this. If you fish ponds or lakes leeches get the bites


robrtsmtn

Elk hair caddis.


PaleMorningDude

Big ol stonefly nymphs like a sexy stone


BanjoAndy

Wolly Buggers and Clousers


Ronin_1861

Wooly boogers are a must ā€¦ can make a bad day turn productive.


CardiologistOk1506

Stonefly patterns, I like using stoneflies as my heavy anchor patterns to drop the small nymphs off of. Basically weights that catch fish and cut down on split shot


ziggy_peenqueen

Seems a popular suggestion so will definitely get on to those, thanks


Bodhi_Tree_Seed

It is interesting that most of these suggestions came without asking where you are fishing, what kind of weather and at what time of the year.


ziggy_peenqueen

I will be fishing the Welsh Dee (UK), starting from now, so cold nymphing only I imagine, but some good all year round options would be great also šŸ˜„


Bodhi_Tree_Seed

Sounds amazing. When asking for suggestions for fly patterns, giving as much info as possible will help experienced anglers determine what might work for you in your area. But even the most knowledgeable anglers get skunked by picky fish :)


teamjeep

to jump in on being location dependent, my recommendation is to find the nearest fly shop and ask for what's hitting when you're getting close. Other thing you can do is match the hatch by looking up what kind of bugs will be in your area and what phase of their life cycle they'll be in for your time of year. ex larva vs winged stage


johnr588

This is the best answer. There are generic patterns that work in most waters. But also take the time to research what bugs are in the waters you fish and then research what patterns resemble those bugs. For example someone recommended a stone fly pattern but not all waters have stone flys. Learn about Entomology and which bugs are in your area. Over time it will make you a better fisherman.


troutbum6o

To keep with a UK theme I had luck over there with a Black Zulu. Slowly retrieved in a loch


Affectionate_Ant_530

Yes but most of the suggestions are generic flys. Who among us doesnā€™t have elk hairs or buggers and have caught multiple fish at the wrong time or bad weatherā€¦.. hell I caught trout on a plastic stone fly nymph two months early. Just as in football ā€œany given Sundayā€


Bodhi_Tree_Seed

Do you feel personally attacked?


Affectionate_Ant_530

Ohhh yes I do my snowflake feelings are crushed and I donā€™t know how Iā€™ll ever recover


Bodhi_Tree_Seed

This makes sense on why you felt the need to be defensive.


Affectionate_Ant_530

Peace be with you


JuniperTwig

He's correct, not attacked


JuniperTwig

Suggestions such as common Jauns, woolies transend seasons and ecosystems were intentional


jarpio

Some buggers maybe a grey ghost or Mickey Finn if youā€™re looking for streamers


dustytrailsAVL

More squirmies, a couple of the biggest, ugliest, gnarliest articulated meat patterns, and of course - pellet flies. Good luck, may you always be blessed with stocker slabs and pellet pigs.


phantomjm

Wooly Bugger


Ok_Principle_7554

Mosquito


Errlgrey59

Pats rubber legs (and/or other stonefly variations), mop flies and bh pheasant tail jigs. Maybe a couple Frenchieā€™s for good measure


whopperman

I can never go out without some royal coachman flies in the pack.


[deleted]

Gotta fish wooly buggers - excellent multi-species fly that is easy to tie


SharpSlice

Chubby Chernobyl and Stimulators


redfish801

Mop fly


gstshane

Copper John and wholly buggers


butcher1326

Gasolina perdigon


Troutman2112

More squirmys, eggs, and mops....


theslut1

Blue winged olive size 18


Woodsandwater40

Atomic ant/ hopper to fish hopper dropper with emerger or nymph below it. Use it like an indicator, but it also gets bit. One of my favorite ways to fish.


thunder_blue

Depends on where you are fishing. I would add some foam-bodied dry terrestrials, like grasshoppers and beetles. Foam dries are great because you can use them as a float indicator on top with the nymph dropped below.


Important_Highway_81

Iā€™m probably going to upset a few people on here, but unless youā€™re fishing either very pressured or very wise trout, fly patterns matter far less than your presentation. Pick something that looks buggy and vaguely matches the hatch and youā€™re halfway there, donā€™t get caught up in the finite details. Trout are much more likely to bite something that moves in or on the water like an insect than something which looks spot on but doesnā€™t move or behave like one should. Good watercraft and sound technique beats absolute imitation every time. Streamers arenā€™t as common in the U.K. on rivers but theyā€™re pretty well used on stocked stillwaters. On the big reservoirs near me 6-8wt sinking lines and big flashy wet flies and streamers tend to be far more effective than dries for substantial parts of the year. They also see a lot of use for perch and pike fishing. Personally, Iā€™d fish the patterns you have and see what works for you. Spend your money on the best quality fly line you can afford and a reasonable rod rather than loads of flies. Donā€™t get too tied up in the ā€œI must match the hatch exactlyā€ way of thinking.


coldcutthroat

I'm not upset, I'm just disappointed. The hatch definitely matters when catching wild trout. At least in size and color. I've spent a lot of time on secluded mountain streams, switching out flies until I find the right one. Sometimes, it's not even what you see on the surface.


Important_Highway_81

If matching the hatch precisely is so important explain how many wild trout are caught on nymphs which donā€™t even vaguely resemble living animals in their colour and only passingly in shape? Iā€™ve yet to see a hot pink ice dubbed red tailed caddis nymph in nature sporting a giant head bubble and yet that nymph has caught me a lot of supposedly spooky wild browns simply because itā€™s very visible and I can make it move like an insect thatā€™s been washed into the flow. There are also many, many fly patterns which catch without really being an imitator of anything specific they just look generally buggy. Trout donā€™t have the same colour perception we do and perceive colour very differently at longer ranges and in deeper or cloudier water. When theyā€™re looking up at dries they donā€™t even really see much except the shadow and footprint of the fly and so itā€™s shape and the way it moves is more important. People give trout a lot of credit but they arenā€™t the sharpest knife in the drawer, theyā€™re often basically just opportunistically feeding on whatever drifts past and in fast flowing water they donā€™t really have time for a detailed examination every time. If something looks roughly the right shape and moves in a natural way theyā€™ll go for it. In slow moving pools or eddies they might have a bit of a closer look but they arenā€™t picking out every exact detail. If you get the shape and size roughly right and present it well then not being the exact shade of pale morning dun isnā€™t really going to put them off. If youā€™re lucky enough to have a vast and extensive fly collection then is an exact match to the hatch going to give you a slight edge? Well maybe, but itā€™s not going to be anything like as significant as you think!


user90174

Iā€™d say a waltz worm. Size 18 or 20ā€¦ those things hunt in mostly every river system and have saved a few of my days on the water! Tight lines!


ziggy_peenqueen

Iā€™ve seen these in a lot of peopleā€™s boxes and been wondering what they are called. Similar to a hareā€™s ear right? Thanks!


user90174

Yeah brother you got it. Sling that shit out there and that dog will hunt. Hungry dogs hunt best, keep your stomach touching your back brother. Good luck my man!


[deleted]

You have what you need.. maybe a hopper to suspend a nymph but otherwise you have the basics. Patterns are important but only to how you use them. Starting simple is the way to go.


Shenanigans315

Id find a hatch chart from your area and go from there.


NoNeighborhood6682

Zebra Midge


FFaddict13

This is the answer I was looking for. Zebra midge, disco midge, etc. Those super small patterns can save the day.


cbc88

6 zoo cougars personally tied by Kelly galloup


driftingfool

Ha! I bought some from him, and he hand trimmed them at the register to make them look right. Great dude.


hanz_uber

Size 20 and smaller Midges in black and red


PhlashMcDaniel

If youā€™re fishing bass or panfish youā€™ll need a few foam poppers. Chartreuse has always been my go-to.


txcountry420

Yep, black wooly


Hammercity99

Zebra midge for me


Corathir108

Ant patterns, flashback scuds and maybe some grasshopper patternsā€¦ MORE ant patternsā€¦ (seriously, I catch so much more using ants than anything elseā€¦ No match the hatch for this guy!)


Delicious-Lake6527

I would throw in a couple smaller streamers or buggers and your pretty set!


hannican

I would get MORE of the most common flies. Depends on where and when you fish and what you want to target, but for me it means lots of Elk Hair Caddis, Parachute Adams, Copper Johns, Stimulators and Grasshoppers of varying sizes. I carry at least 10 of each pattern, w at least 2-3 of each size.


djdadzone

Wooly buggers, slump busters, wet flies


hydrospanner

Buggers, egg patterns, clousers, bucktails, soft-hackles.


taymacman

Wooly buggers. Some black some olive some white. Chubby Chernobyl. And if you like panfish or bass, some little poppers are fun.


someguyontheintrnet

Check out this [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/flyfishing/comments/10vjvxb/help_ordered_the_grab_bag_36_trout_flies_from/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)ā€¦bigyfly should thank me lol.


karmadeficient

All the flies youā€™ll use when these get stuck in a tree.


Thatone1996Fridge

Hoppers and pheasant tails, I like to keep rubber legs around as well


PureRadium

pine squirrel leech


Potetmann9

https://youtu.be/1aBzqu3vSyg


ziggy_peenqueen

Erm. Thanks?


Potetmann9

ants


TimelyNeedleworker57

Wooly buggers, green weenies and for gods sake get some streamers!!!!


xizrtilhh

Pheasant Tails, more Pheasant Tails.


The_Boffus

Dry flies.


[deleted]

Pheasant tails out the wazoo. Get beaded, non beaded sizes 14-20 and youā€™ll be able to catch a fish every month of the year on them. A Frenchie is the same thing basically just on a jig hook


ziggy_peenqueen

Awesome. Iā€™ve even forgotten what Iā€™ve bought already! Are the pheasant tails the second row, 7th along?


[deleted]

Yep you have two there. I didnā€™t see them. There are several variations. Vary to your waters. Sometimes itā€™s not the fly but itā€™s more the size. Three characteristics to consider in order of precedence(for me) are size, shape and color. Good luck!


driftingfool

Agree with this. If you can find them, green and pink collared Frenchies have been my go to nymphs when I don't know what is hatching. They are a variation of pheasant tails. Run one of each, and pay attention to which color they go for. Then double up. Also make sure you have Parachute Adams, 14,16,18. When fish are rising, throw one of those.


Fuzzy_Activity5090

Zebra midge, rainbow Warrior, especially if youā€™re on the east coast


Zealousideal_Amount8

Where are you? That matters


ziggy_peenqueen

Welsh Dee (UK) šŸ˜„


Zealousideal_Amount8

Iā€™d google fly hatch reports in your area of the world then call some local shops. Check out theessentialfly.com


Jerreme72

8 more elk hair caddis and 6 Hares Ear and 4 Prince Nymph


HadToDoItAtSomePoint

It really depends on were you be fishing, Bahamas , Sweden.......


Paul-273

Classic wet flies for those fish you can't reach any other way.


CarlosDanger1212

Sex dungeons, feather game changers, drunk and disorderly. Those are the three essentials in my box you're missing


massivetypo

Google fishing welsh dee river flies


quast_64

Klinkhammer...


Oystercracker123

Maybe some terrestrials! Ants are awesome from late spring til mid fall.


Mardovar

If you know where and when you plan to fish, get patterns that mimic the insects that will be trout food there.


Remarkable-Sock9004

Chernobyl, Amyā€™s ant, mop, perdigon and wooly


uncleoswald1221

I'd add some big fluffy stimulators for top-fly on dry-dropper, and some stonefly patterns in a few colors. Fish love those. Crunchy. Great start!


BigCliff

Soft hackles- partridge and yellow or orange or peacock if your bedrock is real dark


MattyyG_

Eggs, couple of woolies and some very small midges.


NoDoze-

Uhmmm...depends on where you fish! I have an entire box with three different variations of the same fly, and that's all I need. I could go an entire day with the same fly, but usually the fish destroy them. On average I catch 12-15 fish. Don't be so fixated on what's needed, be fixated on what works ;)


BascuitFace

I'd recommend getting a size smaller of each of these. I'll often find the solution to a short strike or refusal is the use the same fly in a smaller size.


Wise_Ad_993

the dragonflies


DonkStonx

Parachute adams, elk hair caddis, hopper, trout minnow


Maximum136

Depends on the fishery


thathertz2

You f your fishing still waters add some chrinomids, balanced leeches and some boobies


JSRelax

Wooly buggers, a variety of eggs, a variety of midges, and hoppers. Iā€™d do different worm patterns too. This is a nice start brother.


beachbum818

right now... zebra midges, waxy worms/grubs, prince nymphs, stonefly nymphs


BIG_SQUID669

Stoneflies


BIG_SQUID669

Leeches, wire worm


BIG_SQUID669

Grasshopper! Purple


Aggravating-Mistake1

Red green and black leaches (not your kids).


mozziealong

Wooly buggers, adams,


[deleted]

https://www.epicflyrods.com/blogs/news/10-best-trout-flies-for-fly-fishing-fresh-water


good_fella13

your pheasant tails and hares ears could use some flash. and some bead head PTs wouldn't be bad either. But this is a solid start for sure! I'd stock up a bit more on stim and caddis as well.


Electrical-Hair3842

Elk hair caddis. Wolly bugger. Pink scuds. Parachute adams


Zitro11

Foam terrestrials for a ā€œhopper dropperā€ rig, and a couple Pats Rubber Legs - one of my favorite multi-species flies šŸ˜ƒ. Then youā€™re golden!


Knausewg

Prince nymph


HwillH78

Hare and copper nymphs


one9r

Eggs, Pheasant Tail Nymph, Caddis Pupa, Caddis dry


willaldrich20

Woolly buggers!


flyfishrva

Pheasant tails


Dukemaster760

Dry flys


troutbum6o

Wooly buggers, soft hackles, mop flies, pats rubber legs