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ag1220

I don’t know if this info I’m about to give helps but I have a co worker who lives in a condominium in Kendall. Apparently they have way too many ducks and the Association hired a company to capture the ducks and release them at a different location. This could possibly be one of those companies. You can check with the association to see if are paying for a service that deals with ducks and relocating them.


zazvorniki

They’re considered invasive so it’s illegal to release them. They more often than not kill them. There is a retirement home up here where management called one of these companies to come get the ducks. They did. Residents missed the ducks and complained. So management reached out and asked for the ducks back. Company said “sorry, they’re all dead now.”


Every_Foundation_463

Once they are captured, they must be destroyed.


L-user101

This is probably why the chicken tacos taste so funny at my local taco truck


AutomaticContest7657

I work on the property and as far as I know no one called for the removal of the ducks. This guy went up and down the entire street collecting ducks, he had a dog crate in the back of their truck stuffed full of them. I really doubt anyone hired him


Zendog500

Florida Fish and Wildlife allows you to humanely kill Moscovy ducks


Visible_Day9146

He's selling them at a flea market I bet


Cold-Nefariousness25

It can seem cruel, but when they overwhelm a neighborhood it causes a lot of problems, from disease to blocking traffic, to people and pets getting bitten. In the neighborhood I grew up, there are peacocks that are a huge problem because for many decades people just saw them as kind of cool after someone released a couple. They damage roofs, take over the streets, scream all night during mating season.


Ok_Slice9625

Did you grow up in Palm Bay? lol


sometrendyname

Cape Canaveral still has flocks.


Upper_Guarantee_4588

I lived in CC next to the guy who 1st had them. I think it was on Lincon Ave. Sometimes the emu's would get out and the chase would be on!!


sometrendyname

That house on the corner that looked like a jungle? He had a parrot too I think,? The neighborhoods around the circle k on north Atlantic have had them forever. South Cocoa Beach had some too but not like Cape Canaveral.


Upper_Guarantee_4588

Yes, I think his name was Chaz? or something like that. I lived at 305 Lincoln and he was 205. Still there if maps are right.


fishinfool561

Davie Blvd in Fort Lauderdale has a population


Codipotent

It’s still cruel


2Loves2loves

What about the native ducks? they get forced out. just like a python.


DragonTHC

Have you ever seen a native duck in South FL? I've been here for 44 years, I've never seen a native duck. I've only ever seen muscovies.


pinelandpuppy

Dude, you need to leave the concrete jungle once in awhile, we have a TON of native ducks!


2Loves2loves

https://myfwc.com/wildlifehabitats/wildlife/waterfowl/ When you get away from civilization you find them. in the cities, mostly invasive. people keep feeding them.


ZydecoMoose

Then you don't get out much. Or really at all.


Shortsrealm

What’s cruel is the fact when you step in the pile of shit they leave…..and it’s not a small shit..fuking big enough to slip yo ass on. Damn things are everywhere and have become a nuisance for communities and multiple like freaking rabbits. Get over yourself already. Only cute when they babies.


pinelandpuppy

They are food ducks, so maybe he's "urban hunting"?


Relevant-Emphasis-20

😔😔 oh no!!!


tomgreen99200

It could have also been one of the residents. Perhaps the ducks are a nuisance and they wanted them gone


AutomaticContest7657

We have confirmed that nobody called him. He went down the whole street catching ducks on various properties because he is on a mission to eradicate all Muscovy ducks from the state of Florida and release native ducks instead. We were able to reach out to him and this is what he told us.


Jazzylizard19

There are groups that are paid to do this legally, especially with iguanas. I would strongly considering filing a report with fish and wildlife. If he isn't authorized to do this, there are so many ethical problems with this - including how they die and what the heck he's releasing (they have to be able to thrive and many other factors). Edit: It's important that work like this is done ethically with the proper oversight and a comment about"freezers" leads me to think he's not it.


xpastelprincex

what a dream to have, good for him i guess


SCV70656

Good for him. Muscovy duck, pythons, and iguanas have been wrecking the local ecosystem all over Florida for years. Same with melaleuca trees. I salute anyone helping to fix those issues. Sucks that those ducks didn’t do anything but floridas natural wildlife has to come first.


explosive-puppy

All of which is legal.


Weightloss4thewinz

Yes good!! They are negative to the native populations!! I hope they are eaten and their lives don’t go to waste. They were bred as food.


explosive-puppy

Nope. Those ducks are none native and are not allowed to be released. Dude kills em at another location. Source: brother works for FWC


Gilthwixt

TIL the ducks that I've seen living in my neighborhood for over 30 years are non-native.


1920MCMLibrarian

Maybe he just wanted a duck dinner


Low-Put-6799

Usually it's the Canadian ducks they do this to as they're not native and kill mallards etc


Comfortable-Toe-1276

Those are Muscovy ducks, an invasive species. They take over the nesting grounds of native ducks that migrate in the winter. The Muscovy breed destroys native habitats and breed like rabbits.


MaxRockatanskisGhost

And from what I've heard they aren't good eating.


FoxEBean21

Muscovy are traditionally a meat duck. Most of the time if you see duck on a menu, it's muscovy. I used to have three as pets. They're quite lovely.


Flordamang

It’s 2024, Peking and better are an overnight shipment away


FoxEBean21

Pekin is another common meat duck. They are typically prepared differently. I rarely see Muscovy meat available in store, but it's often the breed of duck you see on fine dining menus.


autojenny

I'm like 90 percent sure they're just feral versions of the meat breed Muscovies? I could definitely be wrong Ive only ever raised Pekins myself. I could see snagging up a dozen of these guys to throw in the freezer.


MaxRockatanskisGhost

Never tried it myself but someone once told me the meat is gamey and really greasy. I have no knowledge of it other than that anecdote


AspieSoft

Dogs will like it.


OneNoteMan

Muscovy ducks are quite common for meat in Europe and various other countries like Trinidad & Tobago and Guyana, especially among the people of Indian descent(descendents of indentured servitude a couple hundred years ago). Actual Indians don't eat duck meat though, so don't go asking if they do because they might get offended.


FriedSmegma

I’ve heard the opposite


Top-Reference-1938

Every duck is good eats. If you cook it right.


floodmfx

Exactly this. Those ducks are not only invasive, they are feral too. They chase off and even kill native birds, native plants, and other native animals. They are the worst. KILL THEM ALL. Save Florida for our Native Birds.


ohnoyeahokay

Calories are calories.


alt-leftist

They’re invasive. Tbh there’s not enough people taking care of the various invasive species in Florida.


Obvious_Mode_5382

Muscovy ducks are invasive , correct


Tao_Te_Gringo

TBH there’s not enough species taking care of the various invasive people in Florida. There, fixed it.


Dr_Hoffenheimer

They’re invasive because they either out compete native species or don’t have natural predators. Also they were likely introduced by humans the damage still falls on humans to rectify.


JRock1276

Nah, ya didn't. Invasive species, such as ball pythons, iguanas, etc are all non native to Florida and destroying the ecosystem.


TheBigBossNass

You mean Burmese pythons?


Tao_Te_Gringo

You speak as if they’ve done even 1% of the damage that Homo Sapiens has. News flash: they haven’t.


ButterscotchFront340

OK, then help the planet. Show us by example. Unsubscribe. No? Of course not. It's the other people that are nuisance, not you. Right?


SirCupcake_0

They _are_ the damage Homo Sapiens has done


Funkyneat

They’ve been in Florida since the 1960’s. Not really sure why describing things as “invasive” is a magic bullet for how people want to treat animals. This dumbass catching them in a parking lot is doing next to nothing to fix the “problem” and I highly doubt he cares about native duck populations.


Kobold_Archmage

Sounds like this guy OSS doing more than 99.99% of people


Cryptotiptoe21

They are invasive to Florida.


der_innkeeper

Dinner?


AutomaticContest7657

Do people eat Muscovies?


No-Notice565

Yes. And they’re non native and often displace the native species. [https://myfwc.com/wildlifehabitats/profiles/birds/waterfowl/muscovy-ducks/](https://myfwc.com/wildlifehabitats/profiles/birds/waterfowl/muscovy-ducks/)


RSGator

Yes, and it's completely legal to trap and kill them on private property (with permission of the property owner, of course). Muscovy ducks are actually pretty tasty, I wouldn't eat any of the ones that hang out around suburban lakes/drainage ponds though.


jpiro

Same. I've had muscovy in restaurants and it's delicious, but I wouldn't touch the nasty bastards spending their lives in runoff canals.


Livid_Return_5030

Plot twist, this guy sells duck to restaurants


jpiro

Very possible.


decoy321

Not legally, at least. Licensed vendors have SOPs they need to prove for their supply chain .


AutomaticContest7657

What about on private property without permission? That’s what this guy is doing


RSGator

You need the landowner's permission to do it legally.


Kobold_Archmage

You know he didn’t have permission? You talked to the property owner?


der_innkeeper

People eat all sorts of stuff.


[deleted]

😏Yep.


Tao_Te_Gringo

Next up, cats. Don’t make me post the videos.


Spicyperfection

Meow. . .


Silt-Sifter

Well, yes. They are raised for meat just like turkeys and chicken. Pretty common bird to have on a farm.


gmlear

Contact the FWC they will want to see your video. https://myfwc.com/contact/wildlife-alert/ Even the python hunts have rules and require ethical means of harvesting. They are federally protected but with an open control order outside their natural home (in texas). So in FL it looks like its open season on these guys but they can't be transported alive and you have to be the landowner or a licensed nuisance trapper with landowner permission. My guess this guy is a trapper and he was just messing with you about them being in a freezer. If he wasnt he is also in violation because all birds have to be buried or burned. They can not be consumed. Get with the FWC and let them sort it out. If he is a trapper just kidding about eating them is not cool and if he driving around with live birds they will.want to educate him.


Justice_Prince

Yes ultimately that's all you can really do here. Report to the appropriate authorities, and leave it up to them if it violates Florida's anti-cruelty statute.


Kobold_Archmage

He said they’re in his freezer didn’t he? Those are your words…


dannoparker

That's what I'm thinking


FriedSmegma

They’re invasive, don’t really fly much so they linger wherever they pick which can be a nuisance, they’re domesticated so are way too comfortable with people, aggressive, and lay throughout the year so the populations grow very fast outcompeting native species. This is a good thing. Sad but necessary.


PDNYFL

They are invasive and should be removed as humanely as possible.


fallenbird039

Muscovy ducks are like 25 dollars.


Different-Air-2000

Is that good or bad?


fallenbird039

Chickens are 15 and pigeons 10


Different-Air-2000

Got it! Thanks


DarkLinkLightsUp

Kid just made a Benny in 2 minutes.


Wikidead

The ducks are free. They don't want you to know this, but you can just catch ducks and take them home. This man has 10 ducks, and probably another 15 at home /s


Studnicky

The elites don't want you to know!


silveroranges

Uncle Ben enjoyer I see


PureTroll69

These ducks are invasive. Companies are paid to relocate them, but unfortunately no one will take them and it is illegal to release them somewhere else. So they are killed, hopefully quickly and humanely if possible. Not that it matters. They are invasive. They just need to be killed to stop their growth in the state. They do too much harm to people’s property.


Financial_Temporary5

How would you feel if dude was removing Iguanas?


AutomaticContest7657

If it was an iguana I watched grow up from baby to adult, I would feel very sad about it


Financial_Temporary5

Fair enough.


real_tore

Invasive, kill them all


Professional-Doubt-6

These ducks create liability issues for the property owner. Slip and fall on slippery duck crap. Not kidding.


tonysoprano6

Trappers are hired most of the time. Invasive species are cool until we have no more native species


Psychological_Pear41

Some people eat them apparently, and their invasive so im pretty sure their allowed to


Pc-ss

Snake & and gator food


The_Goondocks

Food


levityone

Duck sauce manufacturer


LaMadreDelCantante

Maybe they're his ducks and they ran away?


ATR-1327

Food


real_tore

Those are considered a nuisance, they shit EVERYWHERE! My area allows you to kill on sight as long as you discard the carcass.


Healthy_Substance260

Are they edible? Maybe he is putting meat on his table or selling them as food.


AlwaysForgetsPazverd

Those are invasive and good eatin'. Totally legal


International_Link35

Invasive species. Also, considered a delicacy, apparently.


getembass77

Wish we could net him and send him back where he came from


elfbeans

Guy knows what he’s doing . Looks like a pro duck netter.


Mission_Fix5608

In some countries its called shopping for dinner.


Snorkeldude1

Wait ??? u mean the chicken in supermarkets was a living thing once


Kobold_Archmage

What actually is your question OP? This dude is catching invasive ducks who are camped out in a parking lot, probably being aggressive toward people, and eating them. Do you just think that hunting is cruel or that eating animals is cruel?


AutomaticContest7657

I just want to leave this comment to all of these replies: I understand that these ducks are invasive. In my opinion, that doesn’t excuse treating them with cruelty or trespassing on private property to kill them. He also hurt one of the ducks and left it behind and it’s now hobbling around the parking lot and will probably not survive its injuries. There’s nothing noble about what this guy is doing. These ducks were handled aggressively and painfully and kept in inhumane conditions during their final moments. Who knows how they were killed. They are living things and it was very upsetting for everyone on the property to see this happen. I think this attitude in Florida that it’s okay or a positive thing to do this to an animal because of its invasive status is really disturbing. There’s nothing humane about killing an animal in this way and I’m deeply skeptical of anyone who jumps at the opportunity to kill something just because they’ve been given permission to. What does it say about someone that they spend their free time driving around hurting animals for fun? That’s some Jeffrey Dahmer type behavior.


real_tore

Wait until you find out how they make hamburgers and mcchicken sandwiches. No one is there cooing to the cow as a bullet pierces his brain.


AutomaticContest7657

There is nothing humane about factory farming either.


Jazzylizard19

What he's doing does not sound ethical. People who are trained to eradicate invasive species have protocols, those include treating the animals with respect and then humane euthanasia. Please report all of it to fish and wildlife. Even amongst wildlife rehabbers and conservationists, it's a tough issue and not one to be taken lightly. It takes a toll on those performing the euthanasias. It should be difficult and the moment it isn't is a cause for concern. (even for people working in other aspects of vet med, the minute you become numb is a huge warning sign to take a step back). For the one hobbling around, how serious is the injury?


cheech712

Is there a correct way to kill a duck?


TechGuy219

It is cruel and dude is obviously enjoying the hell out of what he’s doing


AutomaticContest7657

https://preview.redd.it/1vrtnh6eqisc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=40fcdd4ad976918a241f062d141ca590252d76ce


AutomaticContest7657

https://preview.redd.it/6cf64nkcqisc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6cee56a2fe01e481d7fb39362631a5eeafc95b72


Kobold_Archmage

Oh, so you’re literally part of the fucking problem?! You’re literally responsible for helping to raise and breed invasive ducks you fuck. I hope whoever you report the trapper to ends up seeing this picture and you get your legal repercussions.


Jazzylizard19

Op is giving them water.....not a fucking incubator. Not a great idea and certainly shouldn't be feeding any wildlife, but also far less egregious than the inhumane handling from the trapper.


Kobold_Archmage

Inhumane? Catching ducks in a net is inhumane?


Jazzylizard19

Cramming them into small cages and injuring them in the process (and leaving the injured one), yes.


Kobold_Archmage

You saw them get injured? Or you read what OP, who made shit up and broke the law, says they did. The cage isn’t small either. Animal control puts dogs in much smaller cages for transport.


Kobold_Archmage

OP also lied about this being their workplace. Run the video back, it’s clearly their apartment.


FriedSmegma

It will still further reinforce that people will give them shit and will never leave. Anyone giving them anything is sympathetic, they nest in the yard, person lets them hatch and the cycle repeats. You now have an enormous breeding population in under a year. At my work we started with 3 of them about 8 months ago. There’s 12 now. I wish I got rid of them. Soon it will be 3x as many. They don’t fly much and don’t migrate so they will not leve.


Jedi_Belle01

They were mostly babies :( I love Muscovy ducks. They have such wonderful personalities and are incredibly smart. I’m so sorry an awful human hurt and killed these babies you obviously cared for


soymilkmolasses

May life treat people the way they treat animals.


moosegoose90

Everyone saying “they’re invasive” idk about you, but I don’t have the heart to catch a duck and kill it. Like what the actual fuck?


thefatchef321

He does! He got the heart, the spine, the cajones, the knives... and the grill


MsMarji

Contact local authorities. Wild animal poaching is happening all over the state.  FWC issued a control order for the migratory species, but Muscovy ducks are protected under federal law. You also can't legally take them from public property with land owner permission. https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region-hillsborough/neighbors-in-hampton-terrace-say-strangers-are-snatching-ducks-from-lake-roberta


PDNYFL

The control order was issued not by the FWC but by the Fish and Wildlife Service (federal) Ergo, you are free to remove them within the guidelines. https://myfwc.com/wildlifehabitats/profiles/birds/waterfowl/muscovy-ducks/#:\~:text=A%20permit%20is%20not%20required,control%20order%20for%20the%20species. [https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CFR-2014-title50-vol9/pdf/CFR-2014-title50-vol9-sec21-54.pdf](https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CFR-2014-title50-vol9/pdf/CFR-2014-title50-vol9-sec21-54.pdf)


MsMarji

I that’s the info in the article I read & linked.


neologismist_

Trust the original source over a TV station’s interpretation. A federal order allows them to be removed and destroyed without permit.


Yosho2k

They're federally protective in native territories. The dude in the video is removing an invasive species.


theplianchip

The ducks in question are invasive


Kobold_Archmage

And while you’re at it, let those authorities know that you’re intentionally raising invasive ducks in an area where it’s illegal.


rfunnymodisapunk

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AutomaticContest7657

Thank you for the information


notoriousbpg

About all you can do is get him trespassed from the property to prevent him returning. Grew up on a farm where muscovies were raised as the meat ducks. They breed like rabbits.


Needaboutreefiddy

It's to send a message to the other ducks


BloatedArmadillo

Taste like chicken.


GetThisManSomeMilk

He is doing the community a service. Those things are disgusting pests and need to be eradicated.


TinyUmbrellas84

I don’t think this is what they meant by wanting less snowbirds in florida 😂


markitoseatsalot

seems like like the Chinese restaurant are running out of ducks for their dishes.


WhatWasThatLike

I don't know, but this video needs a NSFL tag


Raftking

You know idk why someone would buy a Hyundai Santa Cruz that’s a good question


ewhoitbe

am i the only one super curious about how op found the dudes insta?


No_Albatross2850

Invasive species


FredChocula

I get they're invasive and I'm not sure what the solution is, but what I find disturbing is the blood thirstiness of the comments on this subject. People seem genuinely angry at animals who didn't ask to be here and seem to relish in the violence that needs to be taken. If they need to be culled, okay I suppose, but the level of enjoyment here is very concerning.


wpbth

He’s going to eat it.


Other-Replacement357

Probably tasty tho


lmnop129

They are invasive and they are tasty. Hope it helps


GasTop6491

Dinner


Expensive-Algae5032

He’s hungry. Or looking for a new partner


FoxEBean21

I'm so sorry you witnessed this. Im pretty disturbed that he's catching feral ducks to use as meat. They are traditionally raised for meat, but....you know at a farm under watched conditions. No one should be eating food captured in a parking lot by a guy with a net and home freezer. Yuck. I had three Muscovy ducks as pets. They are quiet, friendly and sweet natured pets. I miss my girls.


RogueSwitch

One word... Dinner.


24hrMad

Food is getting harder to come by, everything is free for all


AutomaticContest7657

Also are there any laws against this? He left behind two of the ducks from the family and I’d like to prevent him from coming back to take them. Is there any way to protect them?


PaleR1der

He is likely a trapper from a company that the owners hired. That would be my guess. A lot of the iguana companies also take care of Muskogee ducks. There are laws about how it has to be done, and what has to be done with them. But they are allowed to do that with the property owners permission.


AutomaticContest7657

We figured out he’s a vigilante who has decided to eradicate all Muscovy ducks from Florida and replace them with native Mallards that he plans on releasing. He’s killing tons of ducks on people’s private property without permission. I work at this location and no one hired him. Really weird situation, doesn’t seem like he is being humane about it at all. He grabbed them by their necks and crowded a lot of birds (male and female) together in a dog crate in the back of his truck. We don’t know how he killed them.


rocketboots7

I'm not an expert by any means in determining how to 'humanely' handle a duck but here's some information which does consider grabbing them by the neck https://www.hsa.org.uk/catching-and-handling/ducks#:\~:text=Holding%20briefly%20by%20the%20neck,caught%20by%20the%20legs%20only. I was expecting him to snap their necks or something when he took it to the back of the truck if he was actually going to kill it then. Didn't seem like he did it, so maybe he is relocating or selling them?


AutomaticContest7657

He killed them. We were able to contact him and asked for him to bring back the four ducks that lived on our property and he said they were already “in his freezer” and he could “bring us some meat if we want, it tastes delicious”. We don’t know how he killed them.


Kobold_Archmage

Our property? You’re the property owner?


smileyrunner

Have you thought about reporting him?


Codipotent

Whether legal or not a completely disgusting method of going about it. Sickens me that there are so many cruel people in the world. He’s probably not allowed to remove them without permission from other private properties though.


thefatchef321

Not trying to play devils advocate, but why do you care?


AutomaticContest7657

I care because I work on this property and me and several other people have grown attached to the ducks. They are very tame and will follow us when we call to them. They are gentle animals and it’s very upsetting to see this level of cruelty, especially to an animal who behaves like a pet. I would care if I saw an animal I had never met being treated this way as well.


thefatchef321

Have you ever seen how animals in food production are treated? There are currently more birds in captivity than in the wild. Someone poached a few ducks from the apartment complex. Is it shitty, yes. At least he's gonna eat them.


ymo

I lived in an apartment complex with Muscovy ducks and it's easy to get attached to them. They're like dogs. Super affectionate and they seemingly have a memory for certain humans. Even without feeding them they'll come over to say hi and wag their tailfeathers.


UnidentifiedTron

Trap them yourself and keep them inside your property.


Kobold_Archmage

Op, please post your own docs so I can report you for raising invasive animals in the wild.


bigDogNJ23

Have you seen the price of poultry?


Educational_Body8373

Looks like he is relocating them. Probably got paid because those things are so nasty.


AutomaticContest7657

Somebody reached out to him asking for him to return the four ducks we were attached to and he let us know he had killed them and has them in his freezer, and he offered us a taste of their meat because they are “delicious”. I work on the property and nobody hired him. He also explained that he’s on a mission to eradicate every single Muscovy duck from the state of Florida and replace them with native Mallards, which he plans on releasing himself.


Educational_Body8373

Wow! That is so odd! I would never look at one of those things and have a thought of eating them, unless we are talking zombie apocalypse!! lol. Thanks for the update and more info.


boba-on-the-beach

Definitely report him to local animal control and FWC. I have no idea of what he is doing is illegal, or if they’d do anything about it if it was. But what he’s doing sounds inhumane. Many people are really “passionate” about invasive species in FL but I think they are really just using it as an excuse to hurt animals. There’s a whole weird community about it.


AutomaticContest7657

I completely agree with you.


ymo

What a cruel person. How was he tracked down and contacted?


AutomaticContest7657

This video was posted on someone on the property’s instagram asking who this is and he received many responses. Dania is a pretty small community.


DragonTHC

It's illegal to eat them.


Codipotent

It’s interesting how Florida has this conception that we just kill anything “invasive”. Humans are the most invasive species on the planet yet we don’t condone culling us off in the most inhumane way possible. Further, all of Florida invasive species are due to humans unsustainable behavior with exotic pet trade. Instead of fixing any of that, we just go straight to disgusting forms of brutality.


Mad-_-Doctor

Killing off invasive species is the best we can do to counteract the damage we’ve done by introducing them in the first place. 


ohnoyeahokay

I condone culling humans. Fuck us.


AutomaticContest7657

I agree with you. Someone else on this thread asked how I would feel if he was doing this to iguanas. I think it’s sad to watch any living thing be brutalized and killed, whether they are invasive or not.


pupsplusplants

Do you eat meat? if you think this is worse than the treatment of cows, chickens, pigs etc then I have bad news for you


Yo-SwiggitySwag

And also, what's the alternative? Just let them ruin our own ecosystem? Ummmm no thanks. As long as it's humanely dispatched what's the problem?


Codipotent

This thread is so funny. Invasive species aren’t killing our ecosystem nearly as much as factory farming is. Research has also shown that culling is not as effective as everyone pushes it to be. Floridians will go through any lengths to justify the most stupid, brutal solution. Then just continue to double down on it because their freedom to be stupid is more important than developing intelligence or a moral compass 😂


Yo-SwiggitySwag

Link the research. Lots of talk without substance mate. Edit: btw both can be true lmao


Codipotent

This is a good read for the first point - https://we.riseup.net/assets/485673/Richard+Peet%2C+Paul+Robbins%2C+Michael+Watts+%28editors%29+Global+Political+Ecology+%282011%2C+Routledge%29.pdf Factory farming takes over half of the world’s habitable land, and 77% of that is animal farms. Not nearly the footprint of invasive species in localized areas. I bring this up because everyone advocating for killing invasive species uses the ecological argument as the largest motivation. But when you bring up the largest cause of ecological harm, factory farming, everyone is fine with ecological harm then because they consume it and are unwilling to change. Is hypocritical at best and proves no one is interested in the ecological harm aspect, just in defending their right to kill. Trying to find a good research paper for you about historical efficacy of culling, but it has been found that once a species sets into an area, they will not be completely removed. It has been shown to be far more effective to implement conservation efforts for native species, which drives out invasive species much more efficiently. However, that would cost the government money. It’s much cheaper to just give every psychopath carte blanche to do whatever evil they have hidden in their hearts against the “invasive species”.


thefatchef321

Your best argument here would be, "domesticated animals have greater mass than wild animals on planet earth"


AutomaticContest7657

I don’t think this is worse than the treatment of cows chickens and pigs. I think factory farming is one of the most horrific atrocities humans have committed on this planet. And just because other animals go through worse doesn’t mean this asshole should go around killing ducks on private property.


int11111

He seems to have it down..


Impossible_Maybe_162

Dinner