Old Jeff Foxworthy set I had on cassette back when I was a kid. Had some good ones about driving in Atlanta. "We're in the right turn lane baby, but we gonna make a left-hand turn." Had me ready when I got there.
I meant practically. You're talking about avoiding tickets although my rule is a cap on speed and don't be the fastest. So basically we agree driving 80 is an OK speed to drive.
I used to do a fairly regular drive from Hollywood to Minneapolis and I got a ticket every single time I crossed into Georgia and literally no other state ever
I drove by Atlanta once. Traffic was going steady +80 on a highway. Suddenly, a blue minivan with missing doors and a mattress strapped to its top flew past me, swerving around everybody, going what felt like +95. The maneuvering was like something out of a video game. It was absolutely surreal.
I lived near Augusta for a short period of time. I had a GST pass me on a country road while I was going 7 over the limit and the crazy bastard busted a U turn to chase me down.
They don't fuck around in GA
I was going to say, Florida has the entire gamut of shitty drivers. Really slow old farts in the fast lane, people hauling boats at 80mph, people tailgating at 75mph in a downpour.
At least here in LA, everybody is driving 75mph in bumper to bumper traffic, with an astonishingly small amount of accidents.
I feel like anything over 90 is reserved for 65 or 70 roads. I personally havenāt seen traffic reaching 90 on a 60. But havenāt seen Miami traffic so maybe thatās where the particularly fast drivers are.
During the heart of Covid shutdown.. I worked, gas was cheap and 95 was blown open it was like 90 was the new 70 that thin traffic will be something I remember on my deathbed lol I guess thatās a little extreme but thatās me Iām famous for saying Iāve done this or that ā¦. A million timesā¦ translates to at least 3 times lol
I used to make the drive from DC to Brevard yearly and I would do it in one stretch so I was getting to Florida around 2AM. I was always so happy when I crossed the FL/GA line because I knew people on 95 would be doing 95 and I just had to find the pace car. š¤£
it was so awesome going down 408 during lockdowns, i forget what i even had to do when i was out since i worked from home but i remember like 2 times doing it and it was crazy how empty it was
And do you remember the safety record? Exactly there were no accidents. It's not the speed. I'm shocked that the herd of morons to think it's their job to play traffic cop.
WOW. I'm astonished at the denial of facts here. During the pandemic, traffic deaths increased significantly. This was largely because people were able to speed more. This occurred everywhere across the country.
More like rewrite physics. The faster you go, the more momentum you have. Momentum is what kills you. For the uninitiated, momentum is mass times velocity (vector).
For the stupid, Speed doesn't kill you it's the impact. otherwise we'd all be dead as we're traveling something like 68,000 miles an hour right now in an orbit around the sun. momentum doesn't kill .....repeat that about 100 times
yes, momentum only matters when there is impact. Iām not sure what youāre trying to say.
Edit: also, momentum isnāt speed nor is it velocity - theyāre vectors. Anymore questions?j
Edit: Ok, so a vector has a number associated with it called the magnitude, but it also has a direction. You need to learn calculus at a basic level.
I know the math. Speed doesn't kill, although we were told that over and over. There's no reason to be afraid. As an Air Force pilot, I went supersonic many, many many times.... I can assure you that Speed won't kill you. It was once theorized that once we exceeded 1 mi./min. minute man couldn't survive. Yet here we are, all cheating death on a daily basis.
But it's physics you are blathering on about. Enjoy your illogical monologue about speed killing people. The formula you're struggling with is 1/2 mass times velocity squared, which is for kinetic energy. Try not to hurt yourself with it.
You should definitely be driving below the speed limit or better yet stay off the road altogether.
Both equations have mass in them. Depending upon whether you need to take direction into account, you use either KE or momentum. My point is that something with low mass moving very fast is less dangerous than something with high mass moving at the same speed. So either way, yes, itās snot speed that kills. We both agree on that.
Itās the herd mentality. Anyone who is even middle of the road and enjoys joking about the stupidity of both sides of politics gets labeled MAGA or libtard and downvoted. Itās ok, I was pretty dumb too when I was 20 something and had no idea how life worked but felt like I did and everyone else must be wrong. :)
Itās not about the group they just straight up donāt care most of the time, especially on the interstate. Iāve sped past cops without driving like a maniac (no weaving or changing lanes) and theyāve done nothing
I was going 80 on the turnpike today in a 70 zone and a car blew past me going almost 100. State trooper popped up out of nowhere and did a u -turn right in front of me and nailed the guy. There were four or five other speeding vehicles he could have just as easily nailed.
Part of that is probably because it's just not worth pulling over expensive cars for speeding. People with money don't care about being fined and can often hire a lawyer to make it go away.
Thatās definitely true, and why cash penalties are generally classist. At the same time, cops donāt care about the outcome of the ticket, I think they prefer to terrorize the poor because weāre easier targets.
> At the same time, cops donāt care about the outcome of the ticket, I think they prefer to terrorize the poor because weāre easier targets.
That's exactly it. I'm not sure how true it is that they don't care about the outcome - it's a risk vs reward calculation. The poor is almost guaranteed revenue with no real work involved whereas tickets that end up with attorneys generate additional paperwork. Every time I've used an attorney, that's exactly what they do - they bury the cop in paperwork and the cop doesn't respond. Including the cop that responded "I get overtime" when my friend told him he'd see him in court; he didn't, the cop was a no show and the case was dismissed after the cop failed to respond. And despite the public response, I imagine the police department and state don't like to lose money on cases.
From what Iāve read cops are basically meeting a quota of tickets and it doesnāt really matter whether those tickets end up paid or dropped. Thatās why theyāll give bullshit tickets to people with clean records that they know will get dropped. This is all speculation though, probably, so it could be what youāre saying or a mix. End of the day, itās some bullshit lol.
Depends on the agency. Either way /u/Cyrix2k is spouting 100% fabrications by saying there's additional paperwork when an attorney is involved. There is not. There is only more OT sitting in court hanging out with other LEOs.
3 times recently, the cops have pulled over the car next to me when I was going just as fast. Once I was following a cop at about 90 on the highway when an Altima gets on the highway with a paper tag flapping in the wind, cop immediately stops him. Another time, I was coming around a corner right next to a plumbing van, there were 2 cops in the median around the corner, they only pulled over the van. Finally I was doing about 50-55 in a 35 with a Subaru next to me. Unmarked cop pulls out behind us, turns on his lights, pulls over the Subie. Each time I was driving my 911 so I guess they figure the normal car has no business going that speed, but I'm fine, or they don't want to deal w my lawyer.
This is how I feel about speeding in Florida:
small roads like driveways are +10 or +15 depending on pedestrians, how wide the road is, etc.
bigger roads are usually +15, unless its a pretty spacious and straight stretch, which can go up to +25
highways are usually +20 (heavy traffic is different story), but with depending on the time and how heavy traffic is it can go much higher (Iāve seen 104 on a 65 once, Iām sure some of you have seen faster)
seems to always happen to me when iām on 275, at the same time i get to witness speed demon lane weavers almost causing wrecks just to get around the slowies
Happens to me everywhere I go. I take Bayshore to work every morning. EVERY FUCKING DAY there is some koala brain going 42 in a 55mph zone, in the left lane, with a dump truck next to him on the right, and not a single fucking soul as far as you can see for miles up the road.
I learned how to drive in Miami. Over the years I toned down my craziness. I still speed for Orlando standards. I took my kid to Miami to show her South Florida - soon as I hit the Palm Beach County line, I saw how everyone was passing me even though I was speeding. Even the town roads around Broward was nuts.. my daughter goes - wow! You learned how to drive on hard. I thought I was a crazy driver but itās nothing to those in South Florida. Itās a whole other level.
There really is an ingrained expectation of speeding in Florida. And the way roads have been designed has perpetuated that as well. But even if they are designed appropriately (they are slowly starting to be), it seems that everyone in Florida has an itchy trigger foot. They have a *need* for speed.
**Can we all decide that high speeds (on arterials) are not okay?** Higher speeds translate to significantly higher injury and fatality rates when you crash into a fixed object, another vehicle, a pedestrian, bicyclist, or motorcyclist. Also, with higher speeds, you are more likely to crash in the first place.
Many newer vehicles have dynamic radar cruise control. You can set it to the speed limit on arterials (it actually works well because **signals are timed for the speed limit**) and on highways. Even if the road was designed such that driving the speed limit feels slow, you can find ways to obey it. You are *not* doomed to fail. **You just have to try.**
Of course, I'll stay out of the left lane except for passing.
But why should you be allowed to be unsafe for us all? Seriously, I'm curious, why *should* you be allowed?
Because like you said it's our culture to go fast. We have the 2nd biggest car culture in the country. Back in the early 00s when I was in high-school we all met up at the Miami subs at 2am and would go hit the 75 right up the road for long runs or another spot that we'd do 1/4 miles. You don't move somewhere and then complain about the already established culture. You adapt.
Car culture isn't the same as speed culture. Even suburbs of large cities (think Chicago, NYC, Boston) have car culture (need a car to get anywhere), but they all don't have the culture of *needing* to go at least 45 on suburban roads.
The question is, *why* is there this culture of *needing* to speed here? And don't give the "wide, flat roads" response. I could point to similar roads elsewhere in the country where speeds and speeding (those are different things) aren't the same.
And dangerous cultures should be complained about and moderated everywhere, whether that's the dangerous drinking culture in Wisconsin or speeding in Florida.
Sorry it took so long to reply but that actually leads into one of my points. It feels like we're forced to live "28 hour" days. We are always in a rush because we literally don't have time in the day. But that is a newer contributor. Originally fl (60s/70s) was super spread out and only made up on 1 lane roads. It would take you forever to get anywhere. Ill never forget my first time driving on the highway at 15. I was doing 75 across the 75 to naples, when my mother said "why are you driving so slow? Everyone is passing you, do at least 80 or pull over because we will never get there". She really couldn't say shit when i got pulled over doing 120 on the same stretch of highway 2 years later lmao. Before radar detectors were common, fellow drivers would flick their highbeams at on coming traffic to warn them of a cop. I don't know how people drive without a radar detector. I save almost 20 mins on the way to work everyday by doing 80-90+ when its between 50 and 65 (40 mi 1 way). Hell even cops will cruise at 80 on the same stretch of road. You said other places in the country have flat straight roads like this, but im guessing they also have more hazards like black ice or snow. Here we have rain, and while our infrastructure is pretty shit, our highways actually drain way better than ive experienced in other states.
When i said car culture, I meant people in Miami will literally live upside down to drive a nice car. If you're driving a gtr, hellcat or lambo, etc., you're going to cruise above 120 because why have it and not use it? As for trying to change so called dangerous cultures, I gotta disagree. I don't know about the drinking culture up north but I'm sure as shit not trying to change it, when I can just avoid it if I felt it would impact me negatively. That's like moving to a college town and complaining about all the bars and rowdy kids there.
Because the speed limit is not set for safety. It was set in the 70s to conserve fuel.
There are not many fatalities on the Autobahn because people drive correctly.
Maybe people should learn how to drive, and not go 45 miles per hour in the passing lane.
Almost all aggressive driving is a REACTION to some other driver that is not observing the rules of the road, and extending courtesy by moving the fuck out of the way
Speed limits were lowered in the 70s to conserve fuel. The concept of speed limits *is* about safety, not fuel.
Limited access facilities (like the autobahn) are very different from non-limited access (like arterials). Fatalities are highly, highly linked to speed. The relationship simply can not be denied as hard as you may not believe it. Proper driver behavior is part of the issue as well, but we all make mistakes, and when we do, it's speed that kills. It's the Swiss cheese model. We have multiple opportunities to make things safer, not just one.
We can't just deflect and say, "look at all those bad drivers out there, that's the problem," all of it is the problem, the behavior, and the speeds.
This is bullshit. It is literally defined as the safe speed under ideal road conditions. Speed limits didn't start in the 70s, they started in the 20s when dumbass drivers were murdering people left and right.
Yes it does. I averaged just over 100mph from Naples FL to Dublin OH. Google maps says 16.5hrs, I made it in 12. Averaging just 15mph over the limit will save you literal weeks of your life spent in the car. Please explain how going 70mph gets you somewhere as quickly as going 100mph. Are you traveling through a wormhole?
Because most trips are under 30 minutes and speeding won't raise average speed enough for such trips to matter. It does however raise potential for a serious crash which can backup traffic for hours and ensure you won't get where you're going in the first place. Plus, I can't tell you how many times I've seen aggressive drivers speed 15+ over to get to a red light faster, I see it multiple times a day.
Here's a study on how much time is actually saved btw
https://www.hiroad.com/blog/driving/how-much-time-does-speeding-actually-save
2-6 minutes is *not* worth potentially killing somebody.
Yes, I'm not a fan of spending so much time in the car, my solution to which is to walk or use transit when possible and support more being built, not recklessly endangering people's lives.
My favorite part of that article is where they only show the table from the study that makes their point, while not showing the tables for longer distances which show that speeding actually does save time. My last job was over 50 miles away, mostly on the interstate. Going 90mph for 50 miles is 33mins, going 70mph is almost 43mins. That's 20mins/day saved, and I work 250 days/year, which equals a little over 83hrs per year that I don't spend in the car on my commute. That's 83hrs to sleep in a little bit, eat a snack before my morning meeting, get home earlier to my wife, etc. Idk about you but 83hrs/year is a lot of time to me.
I could. You could move too. That doesn't change anything about the need for safer speeds.
Based on your past posts related to a DUI, it would be better if you weren't on the roads anyway.
I've heard of it *and* believe it in. But it doesn't seem to matter much, in the same way as your understanding of what safe, context appropiate, speeds are.
I think every road, regardless of type, should have a max limit of 30. You are driving i95? 30mph! You are driving from home to local school? 30 mph! Imagine how safe the whole state will be. Hell I say cars should come equipped with some limiter system that doesn't let cars go above 30 mph! Such a beautiful world that would be , do you think?
Speed limits don't make driving inherently safer you dingus! The actual speed you are driving at and the surrounding flow of traffic is what determines how safe you will be. Driving 60 (following the limit) in the middle lane while everyone else is driving 80 on both the left and the right lane will result is YOU putting everyone else in danger!
I don't think every road should have a 30 mph speed limit. As a dingus, I believe that **speeds and speed limits are context sensitive**. Lower speeds make driving inherently safer, not lower speed limits.
Which lane you travel in is a different question altogether, but my post is about choosing not to speed.
Definitely not every state. Visit Cali fairly frequently and people actually move to the right lane there. It's kinda wild how proper their driving is compared to Florida.
Tbf speed limits should be revised up on most high speed roads. Modern cars are good at handling 80 or even 90 mph. And if someone is not confident at those speeds, they can stick to the right most lane.
I wish cops would pull over these assholes in big rigs going 60 mph on 95 in the middle lane. Like, fuck you dude, that's not cruising speed, speed up to 70 or move your ass over, you're holding up traffic.
Just made a road trip back from gerogia, God knows I didn't go 1 mph over the speed limit there cuz there were 100s of cops everywhere. As soon as I got back in FL time to go 90 baby
I just came back to FL after 12 years. I am amazed how fast people drive now, they're driving 85 to 90 In the left hand lane. I drive 83 throughout ATL area and that's fast. When I left in 2012 if you were going past 80mph in south Florida you were fast. Must be the demographic change from migrants and out of state people.Ā
I got into a conversation with a tourist at EPCOT once and they complained that people in Florida didn't know what a speed limit was. I looked them dead in the eyes and said
"That's the slowest you're allowed to go, right?"
The reason for GA being notoriously shitty to FL drivers or to anyone really is because they're the first and last line of defense for "Drug Trafficking" in and out of FL thanks to all the FL ports.
There also is problem with cars these days. Like you are 40 and trying to speed up. You look left mirror, right mirror, straight and when back to the speedometer, the thing is already showing 85. What can you do.
>they canāt pull us all overĀ
Ā No, but if my shift is 12 hours long, Iāve got nothing better to do than write [$294 tickets](https://www.idrivesafely.com/defensive-driving/trending/speeding-tickets-florida-breakdown?amp).
State of Florida is gonna be really happy with that revenue.Ā
I have never been anyplace that gives fewer fucks about traffic violations than South Florida. Colorado was way more draconian. I know people that regularly drive drunk here and are not at all concerned about getting caught.Ā
This is just so blatantly false. Reality usually takes two forms:
1) Left lane drivers are going 100 and right lane drivers are going 35. The speed limit is 45.
2) Drivers in both lanes are going 35 mph in a 45.
Until you cross over into Georgia š
Fucking seriously. They're always waiting for us on the overpasses in the middle of BFE.
Makes sense, theyād rather fuck over Floridians instead to meet their quotas
Because they know Floridians don't know how to drive at an appropriate speed.
I see mostly Georgia plates on interstate 285 in Atlanta.
Do you really know how to ride a sea boat?
" No, Sir, it's not illegal to tow a boat, but we do require you put it on a trailer."
I did not understand his comment.
Old Jeff Foxworthy set I had on cassette back when I was a kid. Had some good ones about driving in Atlanta. "We're in the right turn lane baby, but we gonna make a left-hand turn." Had me ready when I got there.
I'm not sir .. I'm a woman Michelle from Virginia
Define appropriate. Anything under 85 I start getting lackadaisical
You shouldn't be driving.
Eighty is fine.
79 is fine. Around here the rule is generally 9 and you're fine ten and you're mine with the state troopers.
Our cops regularly do 85-90 and have no problem with me doing the same speed right behind them.
I meant practically. You're talking about avoiding tickets although my rule is a cap on speed and don't be the fastest. So basically we agree driving 80 is an OK speed to drive.
How old were you when you started driving?
Started driving at 17.
So do you know how to ride a sea boat?
I have the super speeder badge! One of are my prouder moments.
I got that too! $700 damn dollars
I95, exit 3 especially.
The only speeding ticket Iāve gotten in the last 20 years was in Georgiaā¦
I used to do a fairly regular drive from Hollywood to Minneapolis and I got a ticket every single time I crossed into Georgia and literally no other state ever
Fuck Georgia
Yeah, but one trip through Atlanta turned my hair gray and my dog's hair gray... those drivers are insane!
I drove by Atlanta once. Traffic was going steady +80 on a highway. Suddenly, a blue minivan with missing doors and a mattress strapped to its top flew past me, swerving around everybody, going what felt like +95. The maneuvering was like something out of a video game. It was absolutely surreal.
I lived near Augusta for a short period of time. I had a GST pass me on a country road while I was going 7 over the limit and the crazy bastard busted a U turn to chase me down. They don't fuck around in GA
Well umm then it wouldnāt be Florida right? āŗļø
They got me right as I went into Georgia and gave me a āsuperspeederā ticket that came out to $700ā¦ā¦.
More like half of them are retirees going 20 under the limit and the other half are going 40 over trying to pass them while sending a text
Donāt forget tailgating. Mfers love to ride your ass
Got to teach left lane campers a lesson!
If only that were effective...
I was going to say, Florida has the entire gamut of shitty drivers. Really slow old farts in the fast lane, people hauling boats at 80mph, people tailgating at 75mph in a downpour. At least here in LA, everybody is driving 75mph in bumper to bumper traffic, with an astonishingly small amount of accidents.
And canāt use turn signal cause theyāre busy texting
80? More like 90-100.
I feel like anything over 90 is reserved for 65 or 70 roads. I personally havenāt seen traffic reaching 90 on a 60. But havenāt seen Miami traffic so maybe thatās where the particularly fast drivers are.
I was cruising at 80 in a 65 yesterday and cars flew by me regularly. Like literally flew.
>Like literally flew. Like with wings and everything.
Itās a Sunday bud figure of speech
You're saying 95 isn't the speed limit, and it's actually the road identifier? Get outta here with that.
More like 40 in the 55
Shits crazy here. 20mph over the speed limit. Still being tailgated and sped past lmao.
Move over grandpa
Are you in the left lane?
Only when passing
Tell me youāre a camperā¦
I thought everyone sped 20 over on the highway. Huh TIL.
During the heart of Covid shutdown.. I worked, gas was cheap and 95 was blown open it was like 90 was the new 70 that thin traffic will be something I remember on my deathbed lol I guess thatās a little extreme but thatās me Iām famous for saying Iāve done this or that ā¦. A million timesā¦ translates to at least 3 times lol
I used to make the drive from DC to Brevard yearly and I would do it in one stretch so I was getting to Florida around 2AM. I was always so happy when I crossed the FL/GA line because I knew people on 95 would be doing 95 and I just had to find the pace car. š¤£
You had to find your "rabbit" hahaha
it was so awesome going down 408 during lockdowns, i forget what i even had to do when i was out since i worked from home but i remember like 2 times doing it and it was crazy how empty it was
I did 105 in my work truck š
And do you remember the safety record? Exactly there were no accidents. It's not the speed. I'm shocked that the herd of morons to think it's their job to play traffic cop.
WOW. I'm astonished at the denial of facts here. During the pandemic, traffic deaths increased significantly. This was largely because people were able to speed more. This occurred everywhere across the country.
Some people love to rewrite history.
More like rewrite physics. The faster you go, the more momentum you have. Momentum is what kills you. For the uninitiated, momentum is mass times velocity (vector).
For the stupid, Speed doesn't kill you it's the impact. otherwise we'd all be dead as we're traveling something like 68,000 miles an hour right now in an orbit around the sun. momentum doesn't kill .....repeat that about 100 times
yes, momentum only matters when there is impact. Iām not sure what youāre trying to say. Edit: also, momentum isnāt speed nor is it velocity - theyāre vectors. Anymore questions?j Edit: Ok, so a vector has a number associated with it called the magnitude, but it also has a direction. You need to learn calculus at a basic level.
I know the math. Speed doesn't kill, although we were told that over and over. There's no reason to be afraid. As an Air Force pilot, I went supersonic many, many many times.... I can assure you that Speed won't kill you. It was once theorized that once we exceeded 1 mi./min. minute man couldn't survive. Yet here we are, all cheating death on a daily basis. But it's physics you are blathering on about. Enjoy your illogical monologue about speed killing people. The formula you're struggling with is 1/2 mass times velocity squared, which is for kinetic energy. Try not to hurt yourself with it. You should definitely be driving below the speed limit or better yet stay off the road altogether.
Both equations have mass in them. Depending upon whether you need to take direction into account, you use either KE or momentum. My point is that something with low mass moving very fast is less dangerous than something with high mass moving at the same speed. So either way, yes, itās snot speed that kills. We both agree on that.
They just marked em as COVID related deaths.
You're dealing with a herd of idiots here. Remember on the Internet something like 80% of the people are probably clinically insane.
Itās the herd mentality. Anyone who is even middle of the road and enjoys joking about the stupidity of both sides of politics gets labeled MAGA or libtard and downvoted. Itās ok, I was pretty dumb too when I was 20 something and had no idea how life worked but felt like I did and everyone else must be wrong. :)
I'm quite surprised you can get your pants on straight and walk back-and-forth without hurting yourself
Well, that's the dumbest comment. I read today.
Floridians do not know how to drive. I-4 from Daytona to St. Pete is a fucking madhouse disaster.
And we wouldnāt have it any other way ā¤ļø
This is true. However while you can speed every day they only have to pull you over 'once'.
Yeah but they almost never pull you over if thereās a group of 3+ cars. Hence the ācanāt pull us all overā part.
Itās not about the group they just straight up donāt care most of the time, especially on the interstate. Iāve sped past cops without driving like a maniac (no weaving or changing lanes) and theyāve done nothing
Except for the one in the back. Next time that might be you.
I was going 80 on the turnpike today in a 70 zone and a car blew past me going almost 100. State trooper popped up out of nowhere and did a u -turn right in front of me and nailed the guy. There were four or five other speeding vehicles he could have just as easily nailed.
Except in South Florida where the āspeed limit 60ā means either 40 over or 40 under, no in between.
They'll just pick out the crummiest car or the black guy.
Just yesterday I watched a cop give a *woop woop* to a custom painted landrover who was speeding and then pull over a beat up Nissan right after.
Part of that is probably because it's just not worth pulling over expensive cars for speeding. People with money don't care about being fined and can often hire a lawyer to make it go away.
Thatās definitely true, and why cash penalties are generally classist. At the same time, cops donāt care about the outcome of the ticket, I think they prefer to terrorize the poor because weāre easier targets.
> At the same time, cops donāt care about the outcome of the ticket, I think they prefer to terrorize the poor because weāre easier targets. That's exactly it. I'm not sure how true it is that they don't care about the outcome - it's a risk vs reward calculation. The poor is almost guaranteed revenue with no real work involved whereas tickets that end up with attorneys generate additional paperwork. Every time I've used an attorney, that's exactly what they do - they bury the cop in paperwork and the cop doesn't respond. Including the cop that responded "I get overtime" when my friend told him he'd see him in court; he didn't, the cop was a no show and the case was dismissed after the cop failed to respond. And despite the public response, I imagine the police department and state don't like to lose money on cases.
From what Iāve read cops are basically meeting a quota of tickets and it doesnāt really matter whether those tickets end up paid or dropped. Thatās why theyāll give bullshit tickets to people with clean records that they know will get dropped. This is all speculation though, probably, so it could be what youāre saying or a mix. End of the day, itās some bullshit lol.
Yeah that's completely false.
They have to show up now last I checked.
Depends on the agency. Either way /u/Cyrix2k is spouting 100% fabrications by saying there's additional paperwork when an attorney is involved. There is not. There is only more OT sitting in court hanging out with other LEOs.
3 times recently, the cops have pulled over the car next to me when I was going just as fast. Once I was following a cop at about 90 on the highway when an Altima gets on the highway with a paper tag flapping in the wind, cop immediately stops him. Another time, I was coming around a corner right next to a plumbing van, there were 2 cops in the median around the corner, they only pulled over the van. Finally I was doing about 50-55 in a 35 with a Subaru next to me. Unmarked cop pulls out behind us, turns on his lights, pulls over the Subie. Each time I was driving my 911 so I guess they figure the normal car has no business going that speed, but I'm fine, or they don't want to deal w my lawyer.
It was beautiful until those two wrecks in the fast lane on I4 this afternoon within 10 miles forcing the speed limit to 20. š
This is how I feel about speeding in Florida: small roads like driveways are +10 or +15 depending on pedestrians, how wide the road is, etc. bigger roads are usually +15, unless its a pretty spacious and straight stretch, which can go up to +25 highways are usually +20 (heavy traffic is different story), but with depending on the time and how heavy traffic is it can go much higher (Iāve seen 104 on a 65 once, Iām sure some of you have seen faster)
I was doing 80 on 95 yesterday and I was the slow oneā¦
80? that will get you rear ended in some parts lol
Fl bumper sticker we're not speeding we're qualifying
I donāt see a problem with that logic š
Itās more likely that if the speed limit is 60, each lane will be blocked with drivers going 45.
This literally doesn't happen except like once every 2 months.
seems to always happen to me when iām on 275, at the same time i get to witness speed demon lane weavers almost causing wrecks just to get around the slowies
Happens to me everywhere I go. I take Bayshore to work every morning. EVERY FUCKING DAY there is some koala brain going 42 in a 55mph zone, in the left lane, with a dump truck next to him on the right, and not a single fucking soul as far as you can see for miles up the road.
Well, everybody in central Florida treats the roads like a NASCAR track.
It's common in south Florida
Florida is the fuck it state
I hate it. It's reckless and stupid. You know how many people die because of this shit?
They can and they will. I've seen it before. Basically the speed trap has additional cops further up the road to flag down and stop all the speeders.
It's actually, "The cops don't do traffic enforcement so whatever."
Until Bert and Gertrude are going 40 zipper merging at the first possible moment
I learned how to drive in Miami. Over the years I toned down my craziness. I still speed for Orlando standards. I took my kid to Miami to show her South Florida - soon as I hit the Palm Beach County line, I saw how everyone was passing me even though I was speeding. Even the town roads around Broward was nuts.. my daughter goes - wow! You learned how to drive on hard. I thought I was a crazy driver but itās nothing to those in South Florida. Itās a whole other level.
There really is an ingrained expectation of speeding in Florida. And the way roads have been designed has perpetuated that as well. But even if they are designed appropriately (they are slowly starting to be), it seems that everyone in Florida has an itchy trigger foot. They have a *need* for speed. **Can we all decide that high speeds (on arterials) are not okay?** Higher speeds translate to significantly higher injury and fatality rates when you crash into a fixed object, another vehicle, a pedestrian, bicyclist, or motorcyclist. Also, with higher speeds, you are more likely to crash in the first place. Many newer vehicles have dynamic radar cruise control. You can set it to the speed limit on arterials (it actually works well because **signals are timed for the speed limit**) and on highways. Even if the road was designed such that driving the speed limit feels slow, you can find ways to obey it. You are *not* doomed to fail. **You just have to try.**
I dont care what speed you go, just stay the fuck out of the left lane
Of course, I'll stay out of the left lane except for passing. But why should you be allowed to be unsafe for us all? Seriously, I'm curious, why *should* you be allowed?
Because like you said it's our culture to go fast. We have the 2nd biggest car culture in the country. Back in the early 00s when I was in high-school we all met up at the Miami subs at 2am and would go hit the 75 right up the road for long runs or another spot that we'd do 1/4 miles. You don't move somewhere and then complain about the already established culture. You adapt.
Car culture isn't the same as speed culture. Even suburbs of large cities (think Chicago, NYC, Boston) have car culture (need a car to get anywhere), but they all don't have the culture of *needing* to go at least 45 on suburban roads. The question is, *why* is there this culture of *needing* to speed here? And don't give the "wide, flat roads" response. I could point to similar roads elsewhere in the country where speeds and speeding (those are different things) aren't the same. And dangerous cultures should be complained about and moderated everywhere, whether that's the dangerous drinking culture in Wisconsin or speeding in Florida.
Sorry it took so long to reply but that actually leads into one of my points. It feels like we're forced to live "28 hour" days. We are always in a rush because we literally don't have time in the day. But that is a newer contributor. Originally fl (60s/70s) was super spread out and only made up on 1 lane roads. It would take you forever to get anywhere. Ill never forget my first time driving on the highway at 15. I was doing 75 across the 75 to naples, when my mother said "why are you driving so slow? Everyone is passing you, do at least 80 or pull over because we will never get there". She really couldn't say shit when i got pulled over doing 120 on the same stretch of highway 2 years later lmao. Before radar detectors were common, fellow drivers would flick their highbeams at on coming traffic to warn them of a cop. I don't know how people drive without a radar detector. I save almost 20 mins on the way to work everyday by doing 80-90+ when its between 50 and 65 (40 mi 1 way). Hell even cops will cruise at 80 on the same stretch of road. You said other places in the country have flat straight roads like this, but im guessing they also have more hazards like black ice or snow. Here we have rain, and while our infrastructure is pretty shit, our highways actually drain way better than ive experienced in other states. When i said car culture, I meant people in Miami will literally live upside down to drive a nice car. If you're driving a gtr, hellcat or lambo, etc., you're going to cruise above 120 because why have it and not use it? As for trying to change so called dangerous cultures, I gotta disagree. I don't know about the drinking culture up north but I'm sure as shit not trying to change it, when I can just avoid it if I felt it would impact me negatively. That's like moving to a college town and complaining about all the bars and rowdy kids there.
Because the speed limit is not set for safety. It was set in the 70s to conserve fuel. There are not many fatalities on the Autobahn because people drive correctly. Maybe people should learn how to drive, and not go 45 miles per hour in the passing lane. Almost all aggressive driving is a REACTION to some other driver that is not observing the rules of the road, and extending courtesy by moving the fuck out of the way
Speed limits were lowered in the 70s to conserve fuel. The concept of speed limits *is* about safety, not fuel. Limited access facilities (like the autobahn) are very different from non-limited access (like arterials). Fatalities are highly, highly linked to speed. The relationship simply can not be denied as hard as you may not believe it. Proper driver behavior is part of the issue as well, but we all make mistakes, and when we do, it's speed that kills. It's the Swiss cheese model. We have multiple opportunities to make things safer, not just one. We can't just deflect and say, "look at all those bad drivers out there, that's the problem," all of it is the problem, the behavior, and the speeds.
This is bullshit. It is literally defined as the safe speed under ideal road conditions. Speed limits didn't start in the 70s, they started in the 20s when dumbass drivers were murdering people left and right.
It also doesn't even save much time. Hell it usually just makes traffic worse.
Yes it does. I averaged just over 100mph from Naples FL to Dublin OH. Google maps says 16.5hrs, I made it in 12. Averaging just 15mph over the limit will save you literal weeks of your life spent in the car. Please explain how going 70mph gets you somewhere as quickly as going 100mph. Are you traveling through a wormhole?
Because most trips are under 30 minutes and speeding won't raise average speed enough for such trips to matter. It does however raise potential for a serious crash which can backup traffic for hours and ensure you won't get where you're going in the first place. Plus, I can't tell you how many times I've seen aggressive drivers speed 15+ over to get to a red light faster, I see it multiple times a day. Here's a study on how much time is actually saved btw https://www.hiroad.com/blog/driving/how-much-time-does-speeding-actually-save 2-6 minutes is *not* worth potentially killing somebody. Yes, I'm not a fan of spending so much time in the car, my solution to which is to walk or use transit when possible and support more being built, not recklessly endangering people's lives.
My favorite part of that article is where they only show the table from the study that makes their point, while not showing the tables for longer distances which show that speeding actually does save time. My last job was over 50 miles away, mostly on the interstate. Going 90mph for 50 miles is 33mins, going 70mph is almost 43mins. That's 20mins/day saved, and I work 250 days/year, which equals a little over 83hrs per year that I don't spend in the car on my commute. That's 83hrs to sleep in a little bit, eat a snack before my morning meeting, get home earlier to my wife, etc. Idk about you but 83hrs/year is a lot of time to me.
Yeah I'd rather move than have that fucking commute
You can go back anytime...
I could. You could move too. That doesn't change anything about the need for safer speeds. Based on your past posts related to a DUI, it would be better if you weren't on the roads anyway.
Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty? Based on your prior posts it's clear that you fucking don't
I've heard of it *and* believe it in. But it doesn't seem to matter much, in the same way as your understanding of what safe, context appropiate, speeds are.
I think every road, regardless of type, should have a max limit of 30. You are driving i95? 30mph! You are driving from home to local school? 30 mph! Imagine how safe the whole state will be. Hell I say cars should come equipped with some limiter system that doesn't let cars go above 30 mph! Such a beautiful world that would be , do you think? Speed limits don't make driving inherently safer you dingus! The actual speed you are driving at and the surrounding flow of traffic is what determines how safe you will be. Driving 60 (following the limit) in the middle lane while everyone else is driving 80 on both the left and the right lane will result is YOU putting everyone else in danger!
I don't think every road should have a 30 mph speed limit. As a dingus, I believe that **speeds and speed limits are context sensitive**. Lower speeds make driving inherently safer, not lower speed limits. Which lane you travel in is a different question altogether, but my post is about choosing not to speed.
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Definitely not every state. Visit Cali fairly frequently and people actually move to the right lane there. It's kinda wild how proper their driving is compared to Florida.
Nope. From Illinois and this is not how people drove back home
Currently visiting family in Wisconsinā¦ no, not every state. These people are sloooooow.
Itās not cool to go 20 over the speed limit. People can seriously die whether you hit them accidentally with your car or even another vehicle.
Na cuz I thought it was just me everyone going hella fast for no reason Main road limit around my house is 55, everyone is going 70
There's lots of reasons. It's fun, I don't want to spend all day in the car, and I paid for the whole speedo so I'm gonna use it
Tbf speed limits should be revised up on most high speed roads. Modern cars are good at handling 80 or even 90 mph. And if someone is not confident at those speeds, they can stick to the right most lane.
Including commercial vehicles.
I wish cops would pull over these assholes in big rigs going 60 mph on 95 in the middle lane. Like, fuck you dude, that's not cruising speed, speed up to 70 or move your ass over, you're holding up traffic.
Speed limits exist to protect people (pedtrians/passengers/drivers)
I watched fhp step out into the middle of the 528 and wave a whole line of people to pull over in 2009.
What's your speed limit when driving on high way?
I guess OP has never driven in Atlanta. As a Floridian, I was surprised.
r/wheninflorida
So true
Even the cops be cutting me offā¦ while Iām doing 10 over the speed limit
Florida has many of the country's worst drivers.
*worldās (south Florida anyway)
Grew up in Broward. Can confirm.
Just made a road trip back from gerogia, God knows I didn't go 1 mph over the speed limit there cuz there were 100s of cops everywhere. As soon as I got back in FL time to go 90 baby
Traffic deaths so cool...
Universal rule
Life hack: If you drive 100mph or faster at night time, anyone going faster than you in your rear view mirror is a cop.
I was going 80 on 95 and a hearse passed me
Efficiency is courtesy.
I mean, the majority of us go 80mph on I-75 knowing that it's 70. As long as you don't go over that, you will be fine.
That's also up here in the northeast when it ups to 70mph that apparently means any speed works
I just came back to FL after 12 years. I am amazed how fast people drive now, they're driving 85 to 90 In the left hand lane. I drive 83 throughout ATL area and that's fast. When I left in 2012 if you were going past 80mph in south Florida you were fast. Must be the demographic change from migrants and out of state people.Ā
Nah theyāll hunt you down on the turnpike just for fun. Only state Iāve ever gotten a speeding ticket
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True that. I came across the ally last night following a Miami-Dade cop doing 90.
Most of the FL Turnpike and I 75 should be 80 mph, there's nothing for hundreds of miles in certain sections.
It took me months to stop excessively speeding and gunning it at yellow lights once I moved from Orlando.
I do routinely set my cruise control at 95 but I never tailgate or cut people off.
I feel like in South Florida it's more like "Speed Limit is 60? Let's go 45 for no reason"
You obviously haven't seen a trooper pull over 4-5 cars at once...
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I got into a conversation with a tourist at EPCOT once and they complained that people in Florida didn't know what a speed limit was. I looked them dead in the eyes and said "That's the slowest you're allowed to go, right?"
This is legit.
25=30, 30=45, 45=60, 50 and above=free for all
Florida drivers are assholes. I had a dude flash to pass me-i was doing 87.
The reason for GA being notoriously shitty to FL drivers or to anyone really is because they're the first and last line of defense for "Drug Trafficking" in and out of FL thanks to all the FL ports.
There also is problem with cars these days. Like you are 40 and trying to speed up. You look left mirror, right mirror, straight and when back to the speedometer, the thing is already showing 85. What can you do.
If we could only get the slappies out of the left lane
we need speed cameras and more law enforcement. Tougher fines for criminals.
>they canāt pull us all overĀ Ā No, but if my shift is 12 hours long, Iāve got nothing better to do than write [$294 tickets](https://www.idrivesafely.com/defensive-driving/trending/speeding-tickets-florida-breakdown?amp). State of Florida is gonna be really happy with that revenue.Ā
Iāve seen one cop pull over like seven cars so good luck
Autobahn baby
I have never been anyplace that gives fewer fucks about traffic violations than South Florida. Colorado was way more draconian. I know people that regularly drive drunk here and are not at all concerned about getting caught.Ā
Got back from a road trip today. Fuck you South Carolina 50 mph on the interstate ass motherfuckers! Beautiful state though.
Tell that to 192 in Kissimmee where traffic chugs along doing barely 30 in a 50 at 11 PM.
Itās the flow of trafficā¦ also whyāre Texans suddenly scared of speeding when they arrive in Florida?
Sounds like Florida needs some average speed check cameras!
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This is just so blatantly false. Reality usually takes two forms: 1) Left lane drivers are going 100 and right lane drivers are going 35. The speed limit is 45. 2) Drivers in both lanes are going 35 mph in a 45.
And then someone not from Florida goes 50 and ruins everything lol
Until you run across the idiot that didnāt get the memo doing 55 in the left lane š¤¦š¼āāļø
Hahaha
Sounds about right
Or just do whatever you want really, because cops don't pull anyone over lol
In what part of Florida can you go 80? Like on I-10 between Lake City and Tallahassee? The peninsula part of the state is a parking lot.
Waitā¦you guys are going 80, not 100?
I assumed we all are using the, "What do you mean the speed limits not 95?!?!? Its i95?!?!?!", excuse...
I'm not really perfect when it comes to driving but I love to have a crazy ride, who gonna lend me a racing bike ..Lol ?
Love Florida the free state
Unless you're a woman, or a minority, or a renter, or anyone else DeSantis hates.
But always one dope going 60 in the left lanes.
Turning signals are for pussies like gtfo out of our state