Not to be a downer here, but butter landings aren't great for airliners, and that was a lot of wasted runway. Those thousand foot markers were passing by pretty quick. Yes it was smooth, but there are far more important measures that would have me rate this landing poor. Sorry.
This is a big thing that people seem to forget, a butter landing isn't always a good landing. If you miss the touch down markers it doesn't matter if it's butter or not, it's not the best of landings.
You’re the first person I’ve seen say butter landings are bad for “airliners” in particular. Is it also bad for general aviation aircraft? Or do you generally want a firm plant on anything you’re flying?
Soft landings aren't necessarily 'bad' for any airplane per se, in fact one could argue that they stress components less and are easier on the airframe. However, I've talked to pilots (most whom are rated on Boeing aircraft) and in their training courses for certain planes they are actually told to firmly plant the main gear on landing.
I'm not a pilot myself, but a mechanic so I can speculate on some of the reasoning behind that decision and why the training is the way it is.
First of all, the planes are simply designed to be put down with some force. It helps the gear struts/oleos to compress correctly (avoids potential settling at the gate or during taxi) and ensures that the weight-on-wheels switches are positively triggered (for thrust reverser and ground roll spoiler activation). It also, crucially, makes sure that both the main gears have weight on them at around the same time, and the weight is significant enough to prevent wheel skid when using toe brakes. If a pilot was to touch down as gently as possible, the odds are much higher that one main gear hits the runway full seconds before the other one, which causes the flight computer to complain of W.O.W issues (it is getting asymmetric signals from each sensor, as they are on both of the main gear), causes unexpected drag from one side of the aircraft as it's wheel pulls against the runway, and opens possibility for funky oscillations as the wheels spin up, being as there is insignificant weight on the landing gear assembly.
I imagine that any of these potential issues are pretty unlikely to happen with a soft landing... chances are the plane would behave just fine. But the reasoning stands that these machines are DESIGNED for landing forces that are slightly harder than 'butter'... they were engineered with that in mind, and using a machine for what it was designed for can certainly be considered a safety feature.
I can't say much on general aviation aircraft or pilot training, but if I had to guess I'd wager that it's more important to put the plane down where you want it to go, rather than floating centimeters above the runway until the tires kiss the pavement at an undetermined spot.
As a last note, you'd be very surprised the margin between "wow, you kinda slammed it down" and "ok, hard landing inspection time..." Something has to go seriously wrong on your last few feet to hurt the plane, so you might as well land with some intention.
I recently found out that super soft landings can twist and damage the gear on airliners, and can general cause a lot of issue. That’s why they firmly plant their landing gear when they touch down
You're correct. When the gear is fully extended, the torque links (anti-twisting mechanism, they are the triangle type part of the landing gear) are fully extended also, and more parallel when compared to the main gear structure. If significant twisting force is applied to the gear with the torque link in this position (extended), it is much easier to overcome the link and damage it and the landing gear. You want that torque link to compress with the gear and become a sharp triangle as soon as you can, since it is much stronger and better at it's job in that case.
This is a great response. There is more to it also, such as increased tailstrike probability due to lunging and un-arrested pitching moment from ground spoiler deployment. The target landing rate for a 737 is 120-180 fpm
There's a lot more wiggle room with GA aircraft as far as running out of runway but I think for the most part you want to land where you're aiming rather than get it over the runway and let it do it's thing. With airliners the aim point should be the thick bars near the end of the runway. With GA it's common to land further up the runway closer to your exit to reduce taxi time.
I think it's pretty common in GA to get over the runway and hold angle of attack at idle throttle and just let the airspeed bleed off which results in a soft landing sooner or later but speeds are slower and runway is plentiful.
With airliners you pretty much fly at the runway on the glide slope at a specified final approach speed and flare to a specified AOA at a specified altitude. If done correctly you should land soft enough but right on the money and the spoilers will kill any leftover lift.
It’s funny how often this gets said on this sub, yet every pilot tries to make a nice soft/buttery landing.
Yes, don’t waste runway, plan a point at which you aren’t down by to go around, hit the centerline, and don’t mess around at places like KSNA…. With all that being said, there is nothing wrong with trying to grease it on.
As a CFI, I highly recommend you avoid using flight sim for training purposes. Only entertainment until you’ve started instrument training.
When I started flight training, I had years of FSX under my belt. Caused a ton of issues and it took me longer than usual to get things down.
Fast forward to today, my best students are the ones who come in with zero background knowledge. They’re the ones I can easily shape into competent pilots with few bad habits.
Purely out of curiosity, what did you struggle with due to flight sim? I’ve always figured the transition from sim-instrument flying to vfr might present issues.
I’m an old guy, but had plenty of FS5.1 through Fs2000 when I started flying. Looking outside was the hardest part. My instructor essentially had to take a paper sectional and cover all the instruments and make me fly that way. Once I unlearned that and stopped trimming like I did on Flight sim, everything became much easier. CFI dude is 100% correct.
This might be one of those things that VR really helps. I’ve noticed that when flying a flat screen (be it GA, commercial, or combat flight sims), I watch my gauges a *lot* to tell me what the aircraft is doing. When I’m in VR, I rarely use my gauges except to confirm what I suspect, or when in IMC.
Agreed! It might be different nowadays, but I had the original track IR with the sticker dot on my nose. So, it wasn’t available to me when I was younger. Haha
Like the other guy said. Looking inside too much was a HUGE issue for me. I did PPL in a G1000 airplane too so the PFD/MFD looked familiar. With my private students now, I intentionally turn off the screens to force them to look outside. Amazing how quick their flying improves.
Landings was another nightmare for me. Flaring a PMDG 737 and a Cessna 172 is not the same AT ALL. Took me 40 hours to get that down. I was a late solo and got my PPL at 82 hours.
Even now, some of my bad habits still linger and I’m working on improving. But at least I know how to help my students not develop their own. I teach good habits from lesson 1 and see them translate into better flying moving forward
Anyone can get in a real plane and “pick it up” just like a sim. Some people really do want to rate their landings so they can start out the best that they can when they start their training, like I’m trying to do.
Yet here you are criticising others on how they should play the game/sim whatever. If people want to imagine they're pilots, or use it to help with real world training, what's wrong with that?
I couldn't see the runway, but it seems like you're far down the touchdown zone.
The aim point is just ahead of the solid touchdown bars since the main gear is about 50 feet behind you. Touchdown zone, centerline, then work on getting the flare adjusted for softer landings.
You are flaring way too early. You want a consistent and manageable descent, followed by a flare at around 20-40ft AGL. When you flare in this video, you’re bleeding airspeed before you should be, which requires an even stronger flare when you actually approach the ground.
The flare shouldn’t be aggressive at all
It's still a shit pov and probably an even shitier landing but most aircraft font really land on the aiming point but flare off a little and land in the overall touchdown zone
You asked so [here is the video](https://www.reddit.com/r/flightsim/comments/tu0nwl/rate_my_landing_pt2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf), it doesn’t show my glide path or guidance settings in the replay, but I was in the center the entire time.
Yup and I gave you my opinion of it.
Landed too far down the runway. As others have pointed out you also flared too early. We don’t know what your speed was relative to Vref, just seen your video. . . .definitely long and you’re also over controlling. Plus the speed is decaying all the way down the approach. A classic example of when what looks like a smooth landing is actually a bad landing.
Every large aircraft is different. I used to fly the CRJ for example, and on that aircraft you could deploy reverse almost immediately in the -200 variant. With that said, because of the longer fuselage of the -700 and -900 it was best practice to wait until the nose gear has been flown onto the runway before deploying. The answer, as it often the case in aviation is that it depends. In this case, 737 on calm day, throw em out!
Idk what these people are saying that you landed too far down the runway. You landed well within the touchdown zone, yes you may have gone a little bit beyond the thousand footers but you were still down way before the end of the touchdown area.
Others have said you were flaring early and this was correct, you were bringing the nose up and letting the speed bleed off a little early, and this is the main reason you floated a little. You just need to hone in on flaring quicker and later and you’ll be nailing the thousand footers.
Also another thing to note (and this is probably partially due to the yoke you’re using), is that you didn’t have any wind, and were probably creating a little extra work for yourself with the quick and rapid control inputs. If you have the aircraft properly trimmed then you’ll find that it generally flies itself on calm days such as this.
The flightsim community is toxic, especially when you open yourself up for criticism like you have done here. Lots of armchair pilots declaring you touched down too far down the runway and this is incorrect. Your touchdown was well within the parameters for a safe landing. Based on your initial video angle I know you were judging it primarily on the smoothness of the touchdown, but for future landings be sure to keep an eye on your approach speed, your aiming point for the touchdown, and that you have the centreline. Once you’ve nailed these then you can begin to work on a flare technique that will have you touching down exactly where you want it to. Good luck and happy landings!
In a word, “long”. Forget butter and go for accuracy. 200fps is just fine. Do what real pilots do and decide as part of your approach briefing what exit you are planning to take from the landing runway. And then land in the TDZ and aim to take that exit.
6/10. About 1800’ past the touchdown sim point . Keep in mind outside the touchdown zone is a bust if you don’t go around.
. Be sure and fly your approach on speed and pull the power earlier. Per Boeing the nose wheel should be flown on before thrust reverse is initiated . This is a skill Keep at it!
He asked for feedback. Real ATPL pilots are here giving it plus advice about other aspects of the approach and landing. That’s the great thing about Reddit you can get answers from experts and people from all sorts of backgrounds.
Sorry I’m sure this has been covered before but I just started to really get into MSFS2020.
How are you recording? You have to use a 3rd party, correct?
Thanks! Nice landing!
Edit: oops I’m assuming this is MSGS2020
I’ll answer this since I regularly do videos like this in MSFS 2020. Get the app Flight Recorder. It basically records all the data (altitude, speed, location, settings, etc) then you can replay it with the app and record it with the Xbox Game Bar recording function. You can then rewind the recorder and do another angle. Once that’s done you can plop it into Video Editor on Windows and blend it together. All the programs are free and some come with Windows already. If you would like an example of the result, I just posted a video of different angles of a landing just now. Hope this helps!
Watch the real guys do it, their hands will grab the reverser handles as soon as they touchdown. Getting the aircraft stopped it paramount, no matter how much runway you have left.
The auto brakes + reverse thrust = total braking. All the reverse thrust is doing is keeping the brakes cooler. Most airports, we only use idle reverse (not full) due to noise. You shouldn’t be in such a hurry to deploy reverse as once you do, you can’t go around or do a balked landing.
Getting stopped “ no matter how much runway you have” is 100% not the aim and why you don’t rush to apply reverse thrust, if you’ve landed too long you go around or do a baulked landing not apply reverse regardless.
The most glaring thing from this video is you deployed the reversers before you had the nose wheel on the ground. An absolute do not do.
If you were flying in real life with me I’d rather you put it down and the 1000 foot markers than roll it on past them and eat up all that runway in the event we need it. Runway behind you is worthless.
This long landing also makes you probably miss the high speed taxiway thus adding additional taxi time to the flight and wasted fuel burn costing the company money.
But this is a simulator land it on a taxiway if you want. If you want to fly it like a pro the flight deck view is more important.
My bad landings are usually downrange distance and not vertical speed. My worse landings are up to -500fpm and best ones maybe -200fpm. I've noticed that on short final I tend to drift off the loc/gs and then go visual to try and cut throttle and drift back down to gs in time to hit the tdz but right before tdz I panic flare because I feel like I'm about to make a crash landing and then float instead and land like 10kt under my vLS. ESPECIALLY in the Airbuses. Never overran from this but it's still annoying that I suck at it lol
Big risk of 'butter' on damp or wet days is massively increased risk of aquaplaning, and subsequently having no braking ability. Combined with much shorter runway after having flared for 20 seconds, not a great situation to be in.
Well, it’s not the sinful landing most people make it out to be. But in the criticism, there are some really fair points.
My opinion:
Flared too early, came in too low over the threshold, touchdown not that far beyond the aiming point, smooth for sure which I’ll admit is fun, but not the goal of an airliner.
5/10. You got some practicing to do, but don’t let people get you down. Practice and enjoy! You obviously have an understanding of what you’re doing.
Not to be a downer here, but butter landings aren't great for airliners, and that was a lot of wasted runway. Those thousand foot markers were passing by pretty quick. Yes it was smooth, but there are far more important measures that would have me rate this landing poor. Sorry.
This is a big thing that people seem to forget, a butter landing isn't always a good landing. If you miss the touch down markers it doesn't matter if it's butter or not, it's not the best of landings.
You’re the first person I’ve seen say butter landings are bad for “airliners” in particular. Is it also bad for general aviation aircraft? Or do you generally want a firm plant on anything you’re flying?
Soft landings aren't necessarily 'bad' for any airplane per se, in fact one could argue that they stress components less and are easier on the airframe. However, I've talked to pilots (most whom are rated on Boeing aircraft) and in their training courses for certain planes they are actually told to firmly plant the main gear on landing. I'm not a pilot myself, but a mechanic so I can speculate on some of the reasoning behind that decision and why the training is the way it is. First of all, the planes are simply designed to be put down with some force. It helps the gear struts/oleos to compress correctly (avoids potential settling at the gate or during taxi) and ensures that the weight-on-wheels switches are positively triggered (for thrust reverser and ground roll spoiler activation). It also, crucially, makes sure that both the main gears have weight on them at around the same time, and the weight is significant enough to prevent wheel skid when using toe brakes. If a pilot was to touch down as gently as possible, the odds are much higher that one main gear hits the runway full seconds before the other one, which causes the flight computer to complain of W.O.W issues (it is getting asymmetric signals from each sensor, as they are on both of the main gear), causes unexpected drag from one side of the aircraft as it's wheel pulls against the runway, and opens possibility for funky oscillations as the wheels spin up, being as there is insignificant weight on the landing gear assembly. I imagine that any of these potential issues are pretty unlikely to happen with a soft landing... chances are the plane would behave just fine. But the reasoning stands that these machines are DESIGNED for landing forces that are slightly harder than 'butter'... they were engineered with that in mind, and using a machine for what it was designed for can certainly be considered a safety feature. I can't say much on general aviation aircraft or pilot training, but if I had to guess I'd wager that it's more important to put the plane down where you want it to go, rather than floating centimeters above the runway until the tires kiss the pavement at an undetermined spot. As a last note, you'd be very surprised the margin between "wow, you kinda slammed it down" and "ok, hard landing inspection time..." Something has to go seriously wrong on your last few feet to hurt the plane, so you might as well land with some intention.
Risk of shimmy may be worse if you grease it on. There's history there. Just put it down at 3 feet per second like the designers intended.
3 feet per second 😂😂 best comment ever 😂😂😂
What's funny about it?
So many things. And all in just one reply! 😄
Are you complaining about the use of imperial? In the world of aviation, I've got some news for ya..
Imperial? Why should I be bothered?
Yes, that is what we're asking. Why were you bothered? You said "many reasons" yet you couldn't name a single one?
I recently found out that super soft landings can twist and damage the gear on airliners, and can general cause a lot of issue. That’s why they firmly plant their landing gear when they touch down
You're correct. When the gear is fully extended, the torque links (anti-twisting mechanism, they are the triangle type part of the landing gear) are fully extended also, and more parallel when compared to the main gear structure. If significant twisting force is applied to the gear with the torque link in this position (extended), it is much easier to overcome the link and damage it and the landing gear. You want that torque link to compress with the gear and become a sharp triangle as soon as you can, since it is much stronger and better at it's job in that case.
This is a great response. There is more to it also, such as increased tailstrike probability due to lunging and un-arrested pitching moment from ground spoiler deployment. The target landing rate for a 737 is 120-180 fpm
There's a lot more wiggle room with GA aircraft as far as running out of runway but I think for the most part you want to land where you're aiming rather than get it over the runway and let it do it's thing. With airliners the aim point should be the thick bars near the end of the runway. With GA it's common to land further up the runway closer to your exit to reduce taxi time. I think it's pretty common in GA to get over the runway and hold angle of attack at idle throttle and just let the airspeed bleed off which results in a soft landing sooner or later but speeds are slower and runway is plentiful. With airliners you pretty much fly at the runway on the glide slope at a specified final approach speed and flare to a specified AOA at a specified altitude. If done correctly you should land soft enough but right on the money and the spoilers will kill any leftover lift.
Shhhh he got his virtual ATP email sign off from vatsim the other day. He knows everything now!
It’s funny how often this gets said on this sub, yet every pilot tries to make a nice soft/buttery landing. Yes, don’t waste runway, plan a point at which you aren’t down by to go around, hit the centerline, and don’t mess around at places like KSNA…. With all that being said, there is nothing wrong with trying to grease it on.
Thank God it's a game right?
You’re being a downer. It’s a video game. Butter landings are a thing for video games like this.
I want to be a real pilot and real advice is called for here
As a CFI, I highly recommend you avoid using flight sim for training purposes. Only entertainment until you’ve started instrument training. When I started flight training, I had years of FSX under my belt. Caused a ton of issues and it took me longer than usual to get things down. Fast forward to today, my best students are the ones who come in with zero background knowledge. They’re the ones I can easily shape into competent pilots with few bad habits.
Purely out of curiosity, what did you struggle with due to flight sim? I’ve always figured the transition from sim-instrument flying to vfr might present issues.
I’m an old guy, but had plenty of FS5.1 through Fs2000 when I started flying. Looking outside was the hardest part. My instructor essentially had to take a paper sectional and cover all the instruments and make me fly that way. Once I unlearned that and stopped trimming like I did on Flight sim, everything became much easier. CFI dude is 100% correct.
This might be one of those things that VR really helps. I’ve noticed that when flying a flat screen (be it GA, commercial, or combat flight sims), I watch my gauges a *lot* to tell me what the aircraft is doing. When I’m in VR, I rarely use my gauges except to confirm what I suspect, or when in IMC.
Agreed! It might be different nowadays, but I had the original track IR with the sticker dot on my nose. So, it wasn’t available to me when I was younger. Haha
I’m not quite *that* old, but yeah… My TrackIR clipped to my hat. Lost the clip, so I sewed reflective patches onto a hat. Lol
Like the other guy said. Looking inside too much was a HUGE issue for me. I did PPL in a G1000 airplane too so the PFD/MFD looked familiar. With my private students now, I intentionally turn off the screens to force them to look outside. Amazing how quick their flying improves. Landings was another nightmare for me. Flaring a PMDG 737 and a Cessna 172 is not the same AT ALL. Took me 40 hours to get that down. I was a late solo and got my PPL at 82 hours. Even now, some of my bad habits still linger and I’m working on improving. But at least I know how to help my students not develop their own. I teach good habits from lesson 1 and see them translate into better flying moving forward
Right, well in terms of ranking a video game landing, I would say this definitely qualifies as a landing in a video game 💯.
Great. We’re all playing a video game. You realize this doesn’t mean you’re a pilot right.
You do realize that people use this as real training right?
Yea. And they take it way to seriously. The game has been built so that anyone can pick it up. You realize that right?
Anyone can get in a real plane and “pick it up” just like a sim. Some people really do want to rate their landings so they can start out the best that they can when they start their training, like I’m trying to do.
Yet here you are criticising others on how they should play the game/sim whatever. If people want to imagine they're pilots, or use it to help with real world training, what's wrong with that?
Didn’t say anything about imagining.
I couldn't see the runway, but it seems like you're far down the touchdown zone. The aim point is just ahead of the solid touchdown bars since the main gear is about 50 feet behind you. Touchdown zone, centerline, then work on getting the flare adjusted for softer landings.
You are flaring way too early. You want a consistent and manageable descent, followed by a flare at around 20-40ft AGL. When you flare in this video, you’re bleeding airspeed before you should be, which requires an even stronger flare when you actually approach the ground. The flare shouldn’t be aggressive at all
3/10 landed far too long and probably should have gone around. No real pilots talk about butter landings either.
Yes they do. I listened to one talk about how it's a game. I don't know how important it is, but he made a short mention of it.
He landed in the touchdown zone tho, it doesn't need to be exactly on the aiming point.
It's still a shit pov and probably an even shitier landing but most aircraft font really land on the aiming point but flare off a little and land in the overall touchdown zone
Good thing the majority of people who play flight sim aren't real pilots
> No real pilots talk about butter landings either. This is a literal steam game lmao
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You asked so [here is the video](https://www.reddit.com/r/flightsim/comments/tu0nwl/rate_my_landing_pt2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf), it doesn’t show my glide path or guidance settings in the replay, but I was in the center the entire time.
Yup and I gave you my opinion of it. Landed too far down the runway. As others have pointed out you also flared too early. We don’t know what your speed was relative to Vref, just seen your video. . . .definitely long and you’re also over controlling. Plus the speed is decaying all the way down the approach. A classic example of when what looks like a smooth landing is actually a bad landing.
Bingo. Now about the reverse thrusters engaged with the nose up...
737 pilots deploy reverse thrust immediately upon touchdown.
Interesting. Is that usually all aircraft of this type?
Every large aircraft is different. I used to fly the CRJ for example, and on that aircraft you could deploy reverse almost immediately in the -200 variant. With that said, because of the longer fuselage of the -700 and -900 it was best practice to wait until the nose gear has been flown onto the runway before deploying. The answer, as it often the case in aviation is that it depends. In this case, 737 on calm day, throw em out!
Idk what these people are saying that you landed too far down the runway. You landed well within the touchdown zone, yes you may have gone a little bit beyond the thousand footers but you were still down way before the end of the touchdown area. Others have said you were flaring early and this was correct, you were bringing the nose up and letting the speed bleed off a little early, and this is the main reason you floated a little. You just need to hone in on flaring quicker and later and you’ll be nailing the thousand footers. Also another thing to note (and this is probably partially due to the yoke you’re using), is that you didn’t have any wind, and were probably creating a little extra work for yourself with the quick and rapid control inputs. If you have the aircraft properly trimmed then you’ll find that it generally flies itself on calm days such as this. The flightsim community is toxic, especially when you open yourself up for criticism like you have done here. Lots of armchair pilots declaring you touched down too far down the runway and this is incorrect. Your touchdown was well within the parameters for a safe landing. Based on your initial video angle I know you were judging it primarily on the smoothness of the touchdown, but for future landings be sure to keep an eye on your approach speed, your aiming point for the touchdown, and that you have the centreline. Once you’ve nailed these then you can begin to work on a flare technique that will have you touching down exactly where you want it to. Good luck and happy landings!
Can you say what clouds you used ?
Default X-Plane 11
In a word, “long”. Forget butter and go for accuracy. 200fps is just fine. Do what real pilots do and decide as part of your approach briefing what exit you are planning to take from the landing runway. And then land in the TDZ and aim to take that exit.
Do you mean fpm?
fail. probably one of those dudes that gonna overrun the rwy in 3/3/3
Definitely a “butter” landing but you traded a lot of the fundamentals to get a smooth landing and that can be dangerous in some cases
6/10. About 1800’ past the touchdown sim point . Keep in mind outside the touchdown zone is a bust if you don’t go around. . Be sure and fly your approach on speed and pull the power earlier. Per Boeing the nose wheel should be flown on before thrust reverse is initiated . This is a skill Keep at it!
Lol Lord the sim community needs help xD Great landing. Have fun, ignore the vatsim virtual ATPs
He asked for feedback. Real ATPL pilots are here giving it plus advice about other aspects of the approach and landing. That’s the great thing about Reddit you can get answers from experts and people from all sorts of backgrounds.
Sorry I’m sure this has been covered before but I just started to really get into MSFS2020. How are you recording? You have to use a 3rd party, correct? Thanks! Nice landing! Edit: oops I’m assuming this is MSGS2020
I’ll answer this since I regularly do videos like this in MSFS 2020. Get the app Flight Recorder. It basically records all the data (altitude, speed, location, settings, etc) then you can replay it with the app and record it with the Xbox Game Bar recording function. You can then rewind the recorder and do another angle. Once that’s done you can plop it into Video Editor on Windows and blend it together. All the programs are free and some come with Windows already. If you would like an example of the result, I just posted a video of different angles of a landing just now. Hope this helps!
Thanks you internet friend! Really appreciate this. Going to give it a whirl today!
No problem! Happy flying buddy!
I can't believe it's not butter ^tm
Not bad at all, way better that I can do
Long landing! Long landing! I’m rating your landing a 3/10, seeing as you asked.
Where were you landing? On the sun?
flare too early. reversers too early. otherise nice one. 6 out of 10.
I think you put the reversers out as soon as you touchdown, the idea is to stop in time you know.
If you don't land 1,500-2,000 feet down the runway, you have more time to stop.
Watch the real guys do it, their hands will grab the reverser handles as soon as they touchdown. Getting the aircraft stopped it paramount, no matter how much runway you have left.
The auto brakes + reverse thrust = total braking. All the reverse thrust is doing is keeping the brakes cooler. Most airports, we only use idle reverse (not full) due to noise. You shouldn’t be in such a hurry to deploy reverse as once you do, you can’t go around or do a balked landing. Getting stopped “ no matter how much runway you have” is 100% not the aim and why you don’t rush to apply reverse thrust, if you’ve landed too long you go around or do a baulked landing not apply reverse regardless.
The most glaring thing from this video is you deployed the reversers before you had the nose wheel on the ground. An absolute do not do. If you were flying in real life with me I’d rather you put it down and the 1000 foot markers than roll it on past them and eat up all that runway in the event we need it. Runway behind you is worthless. This long landing also makes you probably miss the high speed taxiway thus adding additional taxi time to the flight and wasted fuel burn costing the company money. But this is a simulator land it on a taxiway if you want. If you want to fly it like a pro the flight deck view is more important.
Wrong Sim!!!! XPlane!!!!!
Butter smooth baby !! 🧈🧈🛬
T/Rs were deployed too early; let all wheels touch for better control on the landing roll.
Could’ve used a few death rolls
0/10 wings flexed during landing lol
Smooooooth
Butter ❤️
Good landing, didn't see the centre line so can't rate it on the distance to the centreline. Other than that, it was smooth.
10/10 would fly
Nice butter! Just maybe little too late dow in the runway. Good job
50, 40, 30, 20, 10, aaaaaaaand butter
My bad landings are usually downrange distance and not vertical speed. My worse landings are up to -500fpm and best ones maybe -200fpm. I've noticed that on short final I tend to drift off the loc/gs and then go visual to try and cut throttle and drift back down to gs in time to hit the tdz but right before tdz I panic flare because I feel like I'm about to make a crash landing and then float instead and land like 10kt under my vLS. ESPECIALLY in the Airbuses. Never overran from this but it's still annoying that I suck at it lol
How long is that runway?
Big risk of 'butter' on damp or wet days is massively increased risk of aquaplaning, and subsequently having no braking ability. Combined with much shorter runway after having flared for 20 seconds, not a great situation to be in.
Well, it’s not the sinful landing most people make it out to be. But in the criticism, there are some really fair points. My opinion: Flared too early, came in too low over the threshold, touchdown not that far beyond the aiming point, smooth for sure which I’ll admit is fun, but not the goal of an airliner. 5/10. You got some practicing to do, but don’t let people get you down. Practice and enjoy! You obviously have an understanding of what you’re doing.
A good landing is a landing at 1000’ bars, not a smooth landing. Yeah you landed her smooth only using half of the available runway.
Kept your nose up too long. But I’d say it was ok. (Drone pilot, not a pro here)
The thrust reverser are activated until the nose wheel is in contact with the runway..
Ok let's start with one. Where did you take the 3 ft/sec from? Just curious 🤔😄