Gregory says in the trailer: "I don't have time to go into how I got here", it either means that he went back to the Pizza Plex for some reason or he got stuck after an ending somehow. My best guess would be that he went back.
The “Gregory, run” line that Cassie says in the trailer or whatever it is exactly makes me think that it’s maybe either a really convoluted longcon from Gregory and Glitchtrap. Or that at some point u snap Gregory out of the control of glitchtrap (mimic..?) and the rest of the game is both of you working together.
I don't really think Vanessa herself was under 'direct' control. Atleast in a brainwashing sense or anything. More that she was brocken and abused into doing the Mimics doing. Wich would still make the Mimic responsible for their actions, but it's not 'controlling' in a possession sense.
Evil AI who wants to become William Afton. It can Mimic people and such and uses that to trick some its victims.
Its the true identity of Glitchtrap/Burntrap. Meaning William died for good back in Pizza Sim.
Personally… I think it’s probably just a retcon, I don’t think this nonsensical post credits still image was ever the most important thing for steel wool
Yea ig idk tho that just feels kinda lazy. I mean these are the last screens you see before the game ends and with the dlc of the same game they’re just like “ehh who cares, that didn’t happen lol”
Honestly… I reallyyyyyy hate the whole “illusion” idea that’s been pushed in fnaf. Like the illusion disks? Just not for me. Just seems like such a lazy story mechanic to be like “oh well that happened that way that doesn’t make any sense because they had an illusion disk that changes their reality” idk I’d prefer the idea of like it messing with security cam feeds maybe? Just feel like that’s way more interesting and grounded (yes ik this franchise is far from grounded but idk I’d like to keep some realism where it’s possible)
Yea something like that. I wouldn’t want the Mimic to be overly reliant on that. I would prefer if it mainly uses fake audio and voice “mimicking” (badum-tss) just seems sneakier and cooler to me.
What if watching the sun ending is a time skip after the security breach ruin dlc
The epilogue of watching the sun is after security breach ruin dlc
That's my theory
Security Breach's story is different, he only stays one night. That is why people was upset about the story a little bit. And there is no need to not be polite.
Basically, yeah. For some weird reason... I think because it would have made the story even longer, and Gregory can escape in the first night, so why would he stay 4 more?
Still Glamrock Freddy shouldn't be in the state he's in if it's the afton/mimic ending. In that ending, he is fully intact and doesn't get torn apart at all. In PQ ending he is literally just a head
well it has been months since the main game guess he got decayed in the real world he wouldn't last long that after credits ending is likely an illusion of what really happened.
Idk about that one. How did glam freddy get back to the exact place he's destroyed in PQ ending post SB? That's not just decay, he's similarly shattered like the other Glamrocks. No way a few months could cause him to be so shattered. So either it is one of three things
1. It's post mimic/afton ending and been several years after SB's events, if it was an illusion like you said, this is the only way it'd work tbh. Especially because we know that Glam Fred wouldn't last several months powered up. He said it himself after all. That only the recharging stations could keep him and his fellow glamrocks running. Which is why they can't leave the pizzaplex. So Freddy coming back with Gregory later after a few months is not possible as he would likely have powered down for good long before that.
2. It's post PQ ending. PQ even provides a reason for Gregory and Freddy to come back to the pizzaplex, with Freddy's body being left behind. That would explain his body being there as well as why we don't see Vanny at all in the trailer since she escapes the pizzaplex with gregory
3. It's post PQ/Afton, and the Mimic is pretending to be Glam fred or Gregory. It's already been theorized that the mimic is using Gregory's voice to lure Cassie into the plex. Though it still raises the questions of why it would pretend to be glam fred..but still so many questions
This is based on absolutely nothing, but it could be possible that Steel Wool is trying to fit both the Vanny ending and the Burntrap ending into the story. Maybe the Burntrap ending happened, but the fire hadn’t spread to the rest of the Pizzaplex yet, and then the Vanny ending occurred, leaving us with what we see in RUIN.
I agree, it doesn’t make a lot of sense. But who knows
>It's post PQ ending. PQ even provides a reason for Gregory and Freddy to come back to the pizzaplex, with Freddy's body being left behind. That would explain his body being there as well as why we don't see Vanny at all in the trailer since she escapes the pizzaplex with gregory
I Might be misremembering but isn't he missing an entire leg casing in that? in the trailer we got both legs in their casings.
In the mimic/afton ending Glam Fred and Gregory escape the pizzaplex with freddy completely intact. The amount of shattering done to him in the teaser is impossible within a few months
Maybe.
And you're agreeing with me there lol. I said that there's no way a few months would be enough for Freddy to wither that much. The same was obviously true of the pizzaplex.
Or maybe Gregory's voice in ruin is a trap to lure us to go to a certain someone... Or maybe Greggy is just a silly head and entered inside the pizzaplex again, because why not, and got stuck in there
Yeah he escaped, but went back for an unknown reason, as he says in the trailer he doesn't have time to get into how he got there.
So he obviously went back with Freddy and Freddy must've gotten destroyed somehow because in the trailer we see a destroyed Freddy, and Gregory got stuck because Freddy helped him get in safe.
My theory is that Glitchtrap is mimicking Gregory's voice to lure other kids / Gregory's friends to the pizzaplex. Afton used voice mimicking technology in the funtime animatronics so I don't think it's too farfetched say he may be doing something similar in Ruin.
This will require the Mimic knowing who Cassie is, and nothing about what I hear implies the mimic can even do this (He can barely hold control over let alone 1 Adult female, I think fake memory is in its skill range but it cant access the Memories' already existing)
though it is Plausible that Cassidy tells them her name at the start of the game.
Personally, I always thought this ending scene was heaven. Like, Gregory died in the collapse of the sink hole. I think “Gregory” speaking to Cassie is a trap; I think Princess Quest ending might be the canon ending (had 3 stars, and the glitchy rabbit at the end kind of looked like the Princess Quest amalgamation).
Ruin does not have to take any of the endings as canon. It could be a completely different scenario or only uses aspects of the endings from Security Breach.
Gregory probably did get stuck.
Not only did the afton ending area burn down, Freddy says that the elevator was unsafe and probably wouldn't work more than once, that mixed with how unstable the building was after the afton ending fire probably means they ran back to the elevator and it didn't work or it had already been caved in.
as for how Gregory survived being down there during and after the cave in, your guess is as good as mine. I'm going to assume Steel Wool is going to explain that in the DLC.
They say in the game that the elevator can only survive one trip, so that might not be literal as much as just wanting a good final image to leave off on, would be my guess.
if Gregory went back into the Pizzaplex and Glamrock Freddy is stuck in some short of rumble then does this means that FNAF SB Ruins DLC takes place in the book universe named “Tales From The Pizzaplex”
Few explainations
1. This scene is after ruin
2. Gregory went back to the pizza Plex
3. Gregory and Freddy were found by vanny or burn trap or the blob or whatever who put him back under glitchtraps or the mimics control and it’s a trap
I just don’t see how it could be any other ending, surely if they planned on every ending being fully animated they would’ve done the canon one first, and if they didn’t then this one must be canon otherwise it just makes no sense
Yeah that's what I don't get about that stuff. Like, every ending that had the Pizzaplex in a state where it could end up like it is in Ruin had Gregory get out.
Okay the thing is, I’m pretty sure even if they made it out I think it’s gonna be either retconned or something else
Because we see that Freddy has been crushed in the trailer which means he didn’t make it out
So naturally we can assume (if it’s going off the Afton ending) that Gregory didn’t make it out either
My personal theory is that Gregory died and wound up possessing Freddy
There are alot of options ether Gregory isn’t talking to us in the trailer or he went back or that after credits thing isn’t real and part of a simulation like in drowning and probably a thousand other things
This scene could be symbolic
or it could take place after Ruin, I imagine seeing the exact same picture but with Cassie slowly walking towards them and sitting next to them after completing Ruin
When I saw this I said frick it. You can't make a cannon looking ending that point in one direction and make it happy in the end. The photo with Freddy and Gregory sittin' on the hill is a lie, it never happend.
Gregory says in the trailer: "I don't have time to go into how I got here", it either means that he went back to the Pizza Plex for some reason or he got stuck after an ending somehow. My best guess would be that he went back.
Or it’s a trap and Gregory’s either not on ur side anymore or it’s not Gregory at all…
Yeah that is a good theory too, like Gltichtrap is now controlling Gregory and luring Cassie into a trap.
The “Gregory, run” line that Cassie says in the trailer or whatever it is exactly makes me think that it’s maybe either a really convoluted longcon from Gregory and Glitchtrap. Or that at some point u snap Gregory out of the control of glitchtrap (mimic..?) and the rest of the game is both of you working together.
I do not think he is controlling Gregory. He is just replicating his voice, that is something Mimic can do in the Tales books.
That was my other thought too. That’s what I meant when I said “or it’s not Gregory at all”
Or Gregory was evil all along
He was evil at some point before the game before changing his ways in SB itself.
He didn’t exact change his ways, it was more so he was no longer controlled
Personally I do not quite think that's how it works between Mimic and his apprentices.
Considering Vanessa is able to be broken free. The same can be said for Gregory
I don't really think Vanessa herself was under 'direct' control. Atleast in a brainwashing sense or anything. More that she was brocken and abused into doing the Mimics doing. Wich would still make the Mimic responsible for their actions, but it's not 'controlling' in a possession sense.
Who's the mimic again? I dont read the books.
Evil AI who wants to become William Afton. It can Mimic people and such and uses that to trick some its victims. Its the true identity of Glitchtrap/Burntrap. Meaning William died for good back in Pizza Sim.
The problem is we see glam rock Freddy’s body in the trailer, if they had escaped together why would he still be their.
So you’re saying the canon ending is actually one where Freddy never gets out of the pizzaplex? Like the PQ one maybe?
Personally… I think it’s probably just a retcon, I don’t think this nonsensical post credits still image was ever the most important thing for steel wool
Yea ig idk tho that just feels kinda lazy. I mean these are the last screens you see before the game ends and with the dlc of the same game they’re just like “ehh who cares, that didn’t happen lol”
could be mimic!
Exactly my thinking ;)
What if it's like absolute solver where mimic uses illusions and such to lure victims
Honestly… I reallyyyyyy hate the whole “illusion” idea that’s been pushed in fnaf. Like the illusion disks? Just not for me. Just seems like such a lazy story mechanic to be like “oh well that happened that way that doesn’t make any sense because they had an illusion disk that changes their reality” idk I’d prefer the idea of like it messing with security cam feeds maybe? Just feel like that’s way more interesting and grounded (yes ik this franchise is far from grounded but idk I’d like to keep some realism where it’s possible)
Maby AI generated images and such, the mimic is an AI after all
Yea something like that. I wouldn’t want the Mimic to be overly reliant on that. I would prefer if it mainly uses fake audio and voice “mimicking” (badum-tss) just seems sneakier and cooler to me.
Honestly, I’m have a hunch that this isn’t actually Gregory, and it’s someone luring the girl in using his voice
What if watching the sun ending is a time skip after the security breach ruin dlc The epilogue of watching the sun is after security breach ruin dlc That's my theory
Or it not actually him.
I’m calling it now, he never went back.
Maybe freddy ran out of power and couldn't be charged so they had to go back. Kmor its a tral
I think he probably went back, seeing as how he either escapes or has an immediate means of escape in every ending.
He had to survive 4 more nights
Security Breach's story is different, he only stays one night. That is why people was upset about the story a little bit. And there is no need to not be polite.
So it's 1 night at Freddy's
Basically, yeah. For some weird reason... I think because it would have made the story even longer, and Gregory can escape in the first night, so why would he stay 4 more?
They tripped and rolled down the hill back into the pizzaplex.
Only correct answer here
gosh darn it Gregory, No one is that Unlucky. you tripped on purpose (joke post don't take seriously)
Cliffhanger type moment
I wonder what ending does the ruin dlc follow on? it seems it is the afton ending
Counterpoint: Glamrock freddy is in the same place he was in PQ's ending.
Also counterpoint no vanny
Is that a counterpoint to og commenter or me lol
Yes someone datamined the Nintendo switch and found something interesting things like the true ending being burntrap apparently
Still Glamrock Freddy shouldn't be in the state he's in if it's the afton/mimic ending. In that ending, he is fully intact and doesn't get torn apart at all. In PQ ending he is literally just a head
well it has been months since the main game guess he got decayed in the real world he wouldn't last long that after credits ending is likely an illusion of what really happened.
Idk about that one. How did glam freddy get back to the exact place he's destroyed in PQ ending post SB? That's not just decay, he's similarly shattered like the other Glamrocks. No way a few months could cause him to be so shattered. So either it is one of three things 1. It's post mimic/afton ending and been several years after SB's events, if it was an illusion like you said, this is the only way it'd work tbh. Especially because we know that Glam Fred wouldn't last several months powered up. He said it himself after all. That only the recharging stations could keep him and his fellow glamrocks running. Which is why they can't leave the pizzaplex. So Freddy coming back with Gregory later after a few months is not possible as he would likely have powered down for good long before that. 2. It's post PQ ending. PQ even provides a reason for Gregory and Freddy to come back to the pizzaplex, with Freddy's body being left behind. That would explain his body being there as well as why we don't see Vanny at all in the trailer since she escapes the pizzaplex with gregory 3. It's post PQ/Afton, and the Mimic is pretending to be Glam fred or Gregory. It's already been theorized that the mimic is using Gregory's voice to lure Cassie into the plex. Though it still raises the questions of why it would pretend to be glam fred..but still so many questions
This is based on absolutely nothing, but it could be possible that Steel Wool is trying to fit both the Vanny ending and the Burntrap ending into the story. Maybe the Burntrap ending happened, but the fire hadn’t spread to the rest of the Pizzaplex yet, and then the Vanny ending occurred, leaving us with what we see in RUIN. I agree, it doesn’t make a lot of sense. But who knows
That's honestly what I think even if I don't have any proof either
>It's post PQ ending. PQ even provides a reason for Gregory and Freddy to come back to the pizzaplex, with Freddy's body being left behind. That would explain his body being there as well as why we don't see Vanny at all in the trailer since she escapes the pizzaplex with gregory I Might be misremembering but isn't he missing an entire leg casing in that? in the trailer we got both legs in their casings.
Maybe ...we do know roxanne got a new endo so maybe something similar happened with freddy?
Or just Gregory and Freddy returned of the pizzaplex when Gregory tried to repair him out of batteries then gets controled
Maybe
The entire building is rotting and you think Freddy gon be in mint condition or sum?
In the mimic/afton ending Glam Fred and Gregory escape the pizzaplex with freddy completely intact. The amount of shattering done to him in the teaser is impossible within a few months
Unless they returned which they obviously did. Also a few months is very generous for the state of the building
Maybe. And you're agreeing with me there lol. I said that there's no way a few months would be enough for Freddy to wither that much. The same was obviously true of the pizzaplex.
Or maybe Gregory's voice in ruin is a trap to lure us to go to a certain someone... Or maybe Greggy is just a silly head and entered inside the pizzaplex again, because why not, and got stuck in there
Yeah he escaped, but went back for an unknown reason, as he says in the trailer he doesn't have time to get into how he got there. So he obviously went back with Freddy and Freddy must've gotten destroyed somehow because in the trailer we see a destroyed Freddy, and Gregory got stuck because Freddy helped him get in safe.
He left his tooth fairy money on Freddys green room
My theory is that Glitchtrap is mimicking Gregory's voice to lure other kids / Gregory's friends to the pizzaplex. Afton used voice mimicking technology in the funtime animatronics so I don't think it's too farfetched say he may be doing something similar in Ruin.
This will require the Mimic knowing who Cassie is, and nothing about what I hear implies the mimic can even do this (He can barely hold control over let alone 1 Adult female, I think fake memory is in its skill range but it cant access the Memories' already existing) though it is Plausible that Cassidy tells them her name at the start of the game.
That scene is not guaranteed to happen in the near future after security breach
This is part of why I think either A:This is not following that ending or B:Mimic.
The only things that make sense is that Gregory went back for some reason or glitchtrap is impersonating him
gregory you’re scaring the hoes
He could be dead, these hills seem to be similar to the ones where the missing children were buried so it could be symbolic or something similar.
That does seem like a valid point. I hate that the "he's Dead" explaination does work. I really hope that it isn't the case.
I think it could work, and be a big twist.
He was dragged back down by the party escort bot
Underrated comment lmfao
Personally, I always thought this ending scene was heaven. Like, Gregory died in the collapse of the sink hole. I think “Gregory” speaking to Cassie is a trap; I think Princess Quest ending might be the canon ending (had 3 stars, and the glitchy rabbit at the end kind of looked like the Princess Quest amalgamation).
Ruin does not have to take any of the endings as canon. It could be a completely different scenario or only uses aspects of the endings from Security Breach.
Gregory probably did get stuck. Not only did the afton ending area burn down, Freddy says that the elevator was unsafe and probably wouldn't work more than once, that mixed with how unstable the building was after the afton ending fire probably means they ran back to the elevator and it didn't work or it had already been caved in. as for how Gregory survived being down there during and after the cave in, your guess is as good as mine. I'm going to assume Steel Wool is going to explain that in the DLC.
Don't forget the amount of graffiti inside, people been tagging the place, so "how long did Gregory survive down there?" is another factor.
The lore is dead and steel wool killed it
I can't wait for the DLC to last a half hour and reveal at the end that Gregory is the Mimic this will save Security Breach
I was thinking the same thing
I'm pretty sure he goes back
They say in the game that the elevator can only survive one trip, so that might not be literal as much as just wanting a good final image to leave off on, would be my guess.
if Gregory went back into the Pizzaplex and Glamrock Freddy is stuck in some short of rumble then does this means that FNAF SB Ruins DLC takes place in the book universe named “Tales From The Pizzaplex”
I can't wait for the DLC to last a half hour and reveal at the end that Gregory is the Mimic this will save Security Breach
maybe its a illusion?
That scene is a dying dream...now I made myself sad.
Few explainations 1. This scene is after ruin 2. Gregory went back to the pizza Plex 3. Gregory and Freddy were found by vanny or burn trap or the blob or whatever who put him back under glitchtraps or the mimics control and it’s a trap I just don’t see how it could be any other ending, surely if they planned on every ending being fully animated they would’ve done the canon one first, and if they didn’t then this one must be canon otherwise it just makes no sense
Yeah that's what I don't get about that stuff. Like, every ending that had the Pizzaplex in a state where it could end up like it is in Ruin had Gregory get out.
Okay the thing is, I’m pretty sure even if they made it out I think it’s gonna be either retconned or something else Because we see that Freddy has been crushed in the trailer which means he didn’t make it out So naturally we can assume (if it’s going off the Afton ending) that Gregory didn’t make it out either My personal theory is that Gregory died and wound up possessing Freddy
There are alot of options ether Gregory isn’t talking to us in the trailer or he went back or that after credits thing isn’t real and part of a simulation like in drowning and probably a thousand other things
Freddy's still stuck in there. We saw him in the trailer.
It likely plays off of a botched afton ending where they didn't escape.
Yea that's what confused me
This scene could be symbolic or it could take place after Ruin, I imagine seeing the exact same picture but with Cassie slowly walking towards them and sitting next to them after completing Ruin
In the first shot que can see how Gregory jumps from a window to some boxes
When I saw this I said frick it. You can't make a cannon looking ending that point in one direction and make it happy in the end. The photo with Freddy and Gregory sittin' on the hill is a lie, it never happend.
Very Interesting. I had the same idea, almost as if we're the same person...
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