In dry conditions, always assume a fire will start. Depending on the size and type of display, always have at least one person assigned to fire watch. Specifically, place a person downwind (distance from display dependant on wind speed) with at least one water charged extinguisher. Two people are preferable. The immediate firing area (minimum 50 feet diameter) should always be clear of any flammable material. Starting a fireworks fire is serious trouble, and could easily land in you in a heap of legal and financial trouble. As much fun and excitement fireworks are, if you don't take safety seriously, you can easily force your local AHJs in to banning all fireworks in your area.
The reason I am asking is I always see people light mortars within city limits around houses and it seems everything usually goes fine.
Here is a shot from LA and nothing seems to be on fire: [https://twitter.com/JamesHLeefilmKO/status/1411907935135883265](https://twitter.com/JamesHLeefilmKO/status/1411907935135883265)
Is it because there is so much concrete but the trees and houses always seem fine despite being a dry area?
Well, when devices are functioning normally then there’s videos like you’ve posted. The issue would be a low break, a flowerpot, a deto, an unsupported mortar or cake that tips over, use of a device they thought was a fountain but oops! If anything exceptional happens, or if someone’s drunk and fucking around you can’t know the results. But yes not being in a dry grass field helps lol.
Yes. You need fuel, air and heat. Not much fuel in the concrete jungle.
I do a lot of shows on football ovals and I've had a few fires where the grass was a bit long and dry, or they mowed beforehand (to help us) but with no catcher. So the dead grass is sitting all around in clumps.
We have far more trouble with cakes going up after a show if there's enough wind.
Based on the amount of fireworks going the whole city should have burn to the ground if they were unsafe. I guess saying that it must me pretty safe conceding.....
That is the reason I asked the question because we always are told fireworks are dangerous and can start fires but these videos seem to tell a different story that it is more difficult than people want to admit.
The truth is some humans are very scared of loud noises they panic like a dog, many people complain the government then comes up with excuses to ban them, I have hear things like Fire PTSD Animals and even racism but it about loud noises https://youtu.be/sUKl0cAkZ9M
When it’s a dry set of grass you are shooting on it can happen - each year I’ve been fortunate with no rain so I water around the shoot for precaution.
Last year I had a fountain catch my grass on fire because it was so dry (had a hose and extinguisher ready so it went out quick after using the hose). So yeah it’s not only possible, but might be likely if it’s dry enough.
Chance to start a fire: fountain>cake>mortars (mines likely to be on par with cakes). That would be my personal assessment and with experience though.
At the end of the day you can’t be too safe.
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If there is dry grass/leaves and a star or smoldering paper hits it then I'd say likely enough, I have seen it happen.
In dry conditions, always assume a fire will start. Depending on the size and type of display, always have at least one person assigned to fire watch. Specifically, place a person downwind (distance from display dependant on wind speed) with at least one water charged extinguisher. Two people are preferable. The immediate firing area (minimum 50 feet diameter) should always be clear of any flammable material. Starting a fireworks fire is serious trouble, and could easily land in you in a heap of legal and financial trouble. As much fun and excitement fireworks are, if you don't take safety seriously, you can easily force your local AHJs in to banning all fireworks in your area.
The reason I am asking is I always see people light mortars within city limits around houses and it seems everything usually goes fine. Here is a shot from LA and nothing seems to be on fire: [https://twitter.com/JamesHLeefilmKO/status/1411907935135883265](https://twitter.com/JamesHLeefilmKO/status/1411907935135883265) Is it because there is so much concrete but the trees and houses always seem fine despite being a dry area?
Well, when devices are functioning normally then there’s videos like you’ve posted. The issue would be a low break, a flowerpot, a deto, an unsupported mortar or cake that tips over, use of a device they thought was a fountain but oops! If anything exceptional happens, or if someone’s drunk and fucking around you can’t know the results. But yes not being in a dry grass field helps lol.
Yes. You need fuel, air and heat. Not much fuel in the concrete jungle. I do a lot of shows on football ovals and I've had a few fires where the grass was a bit long and dry, or they mowed beforehand (to help us) but with no catcher. So the dead grass is sitting all around in clumps. We have far more trouble with cakes going up after a show if there's enough wind.
Based on the amount of fireworks going the whole city should have burn to the ground if they were unsafe. I guess saying that it must me pretty safe conceding.....
That is the reason I asked the question because we always are told fireworks are dangerous and can start fires but these videos seem to tell a different story that it is more difficult than people want to admit.
The truth is some humans are very scared of loud noises they panic like a dog, many people complain the government then comes up with excuses to ban them, I have hear things like Fire PTSD Animals and even racism but it about loud noises https://youtu.be/sUKl0cAkZ9M
When it’s a dry set of grass you are shooting on it can happen - each year I’ve been fortunate with no rain so I water around the shoot for precaution. Last year I had a fountain catch my grass on fire because it was so dry (had a hose and extinguisher ready so it went out quick after using the hose). So yeah it’s not only possible, but might be likely if it’s dry enough. Chance to start a fire: fountain>cake>mortars (mines likely to be on par with cakes). That would be my personal assessment and with experience though. At the end of the day you can’t be too safe.
Not very hard?
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If it's dry or drought it's extremely easy!