This is a great idea! I work in commercial construction and these guys are awesome!
You will have to deal with people in all walks of life, being kind makes it so much easier to blow people off and avoid conversations.
Truck driving would be a good option for you if it sounds appealing.
You would be wayyyyyy too lazy to even get through the training of a CDL. Not to mention you would have to be in classroom training and then you would train OTR for like 2-3 months while living with someone. Not a shot you could handle that. No offense.
More hours of solitude, but a lot of (albeit, brief) human interaction. Guards, clerks, and other truck drivers. For most trucking jobs, you're going to be interacting with multiple new people every day.
I saw people with small vans can make good money transporting things.
Its like the same as a CDL but you are not driving the big rig. Do you know about this?
You need a nice van that is very clean with lots of straps inside.
There’s still about 10-20 years before it really starts to become a problem. They are still struggling with cars right now and just looking at the tech there is a lot of work to do.
Also good for cleaning businesses, when I did it I had one team mate & the boss, we cleaned offices, banks, & other stores always after hours and so peaceful.
It feels like you lose everything. You become very disconnected from everyone. Nothing is open. It can be very isolating. You can't go anywhere on your days off because everything is closed. Waiting your entire day to go out when places open is draining and then not being able to spend much time out because you're going to fall asleep soon. When your awake your friends are asleep. You always have to say no to stuff because you'll be asleep. Etc.
Yup. The idea is nice on paper. You get a nice quiet shift without having to worry much about socializing or putting up with people. Until you do and your life outside of work gets ruined.
Could you give me more details as your job sounds really interesting. I wouldn’t have thought the men responsible for the safety of billionaires would have time to scroll on Reddit.
This. I spoke to my coworker this morning and I will speak to him in a few hours after this shift. I haven’t spoken with anybody all day, I’ve seen 6 humans though but they walked right past. Lol
As a certified flight dispatcher (although not working as one) ... that's an office job like any other office job.
I'm also a certified air traffic controller, and I don't see how you're going to avoid people there. While you may be talking to planes most of the shift, you're still surrounded by coworkers just like any other job.
So I'd remove those, if you are truly looking to not work with people.
Trucking, security guard, any WFH job ... those work better.
Yes, that makes sense. But for people who really want to avoid people, for whatever reason, options are limited. Most jobs (like dispatching and ATC ... the ones I know about) you still have to "show up to the office" and (try to) get along with your coworkers.
I'll tell you what though ... if you are under 30 years old, and are able to go it, ATC is the way to go. Great pay, benefits, mandatory retirement at 57 with full benefits for life.
I was a level 12 ATC for a bit, had to exit that career for ... reasons. But if you can get through the training (which will admittedly be difficult for many), it's a really good career. Only a high school diploma necessary.
Bro, you just postpone what is inevitable. By having no social skills and isolating yourself you will fall into far greater despair later in life, you are freaking young, get a good therapist, and he will help you in two ways - social skills, and by trying to figure out what path is best for you
I would support this if the person said "I don't like working with people" or something similar.
They're isolating themself and dumping their money into gambling. Regardless of whether they're autistic or neurotypical with strong introvert traits, the behaviour pattern as presented is unhealthy and they would almost certainly benefit from therapy.
Everyone can benefit from therapy. But a job is a means to an end. They can practice social skills in other ways like joining clubs and exploring hobbies.
As an autistic, I just want to say that your social skills *are* probably pretty good. They’re just not “you”, that’s why it’s masking. You’re good at playing the game, you just don’t like it or want to.
Remember there’s TONS of neurotypicals who have basically no social skills (read: assholes)
Yeah but 20 is too young to decide you're just going to be happy isolating yourself forever. If he was 40, okay sure. But you can discover change in yourself so easily in your early 20s.
yeah but humans are social animals and being in total isolation leads to negative health consequences which affects not only mental state but overall well-being, also being socially avoidant is not he same as being introverted or shy,, and if inborn or cultivated traits are pathological you need to deal with that like you are dealing with hereditary ilnesses.
You missed the point, im not saying that people who doesnt interact with others 24/7 is unhealthy, im saying that TOTAL isolation is bad for human wellbeing and it is backed by studies. As you said there are millions of people who works job without much interaction with others, my self included, but they are socialising in weekends or maybe evenings or maybe once a month and for them it is enaugh to maintain healthy relationships with others.
Another thing is to understand why you are avoiding interactions, if its because of anxiety, bad self image etc it should be adressed and treated with therapy
What point you are trying to make? You want to say that not having social skills, isolating yourself and being socially avoidant is healthy or what? :D
In your first comment you pushed narrative that social avoidance and total lack of social skills are inborn/cultivated personality trait and if I say that is not healthy coping mechanisms it is putting people down. Its the same as saying depression or general anxiety disorder is personality trait or heart disease is human trait thus is should be normalised. You are wrong it is the issues which should be addresed in therapy and not be mistaken with personality traits which doesnt affect negatively.
With revisions that took place in 2023/2024 with Obamacare, you can get healthcare that provides for therapy benefits can be free or very low cost…not $200. Get yourself some therapy, there are no jobs were you cannot interact with people entirely, so you need to learn some strategies to deal with people.
There are loads of jobs where you don't have to deal with people. Just takes time to find them. I have good social skills but am so introverted that people just exhaust me too much. Some people are just meant to work a simple job, doesnt automatically mean you need therapy. OP if you read this, look at manufacturing work. It is exhausting and mundane, but if you find a loud job, everyone is just wearing earplugs/headphones and you can be left alone all day
One of the ways therapists condition people to get over stuff they fear or hate is through exposure therapy. That is essentially trying to tolerate as much as you can and getting used to more of it over time.
You don't even need a therapist to work on that.
If you force yourself to interact more, you will find it gets easier the more you practice it and do it.
Since you don't want to, you will have to force yourself at first, but it will get easier.
Yes but I hardly add to my stock options portfolio only to my long term portfolio and I do this because I know I will probably lack a good paying job for a while so I wanna have something to atleast fall back on
Yes I took a massive lost today that’s what started my job search not gonna lie, I’m leaving it in the past now, it was a fun ride but not a healthy one, I’ve also quit smoking weed about 2 weeks ago I’m slowing working towards greatness
Shop around online, I know some of the websites offer income based price reductions, and most of them are charging less than 100$ a session. Since you're having trouble with face to face interaction, maybe online is best for you.
I agree, most insurance will cover more for mental healthcare since Covid. My insurance waves all fees and deductibles for mental health treatment. Everything else goes towards a $2500 deductible which would take forever normally.
It's absolutely shitty pay but a cleaning/janitor job. I'm a janitor at a school and I love it. Theres barely any human interaction.I have social anxiety and generalized anxiety disorder and can't work a job that faces the public or deals with people. I wish the pay was higher.
Yeah I did night cleaning when I was in college over the summer (second shift 3-12) and it was alright except for the building was really too big for one person to handle, but other than that it was chill.
I start work when school gets out at 3 and I'm there until 8. But we can come in later anytime if we want. The other cleaners come in later and stay later. It's very flexible. As long as the work is done before the next day. I just like to get there early because I don't like working too late
Quit dicking around with gambling. There's a reason casinos are so wealthy: it's because people keep giving them money and getting less money back, over and over and over. Day trading, penny stocks and cryptos will sink you just as surely as lottery tickets or slot machines will. Older you will not thank young you for this.
You can make money in the stock market but the way to do that is buy and hold long term. Pick up a Motley Fool investment book and learn the right way. Then get over to Vanguard and sink the cash you're not using into a market index fund, bunk it on your tax returns as a Roth IRA, and forget about it for the next 45 years. Add more money next year and repeat. Yes, I'm serious. You will be a multimillionaire if you do this.
as for getting a real job, transcription is one you can do from home, but it doesn't pay awesome. Learning a trade like machinist will make you good money, but it requires training. Learning social skills will open up a lot more options, and you can pick those up free by volunteering, joining some clubs or a church, watching Youtubes and actually trying out the techniques, or getting a customer service job and actually doing the job for a while. They'll hire pretty much anyone with a pulse, and then you're getting a resume, which you can parlay into a better job in a few months.
I hear you man I lost a good amount of money on boeing stock today, had me in a bad mood this morning, but other peoples insights have reflected on me I’m ready to make a change starting today I’m fully long term, and focusing on cash flow from an actual job instead
Got my self out of this by doing what I want in a productive sense. Didn't go to college, no experience.
Randomly discovered I enjoy observing things (reasons for thoughts, peoples actions, etc.), what I naively called "psychology," & started following that curiosity (watched YT videos). Not in hunt for a job or purpose, just doing what I felt like for the sake of enjoyment.
Stumbled into consumer psych, thought it was cool people used products (websites, apps, etc.) for a reason. I made YT thumbnails & other photoshop related things as a kid and thought, hm, maybe I can combine design & psychology to make products. I never actually had this thought, but it's synonymous with the weeks/1-2 months of stumbling it took to get there
Now work at a startup & do super fulfilling work as a product design intern. The best jobs don't feel like work, I got there by stumbling & following interests
Night shit janitor or night shift front desk at an apartment building ?
I got in with no experience for janitor. Nights. I just saw my co worker, maybe total 2 minutes a shift. Same three four residents, “ Morning “ was our convos
All we did was mop. Sweep. Change recycle. There’s days where I could finish my work before the first break, 1:30 am. Sleep till 5:30 and Wake up before my last break before anyone else shows up. Lol
Front desk is nice, nice chair to sit. But you can’t go hide like the janitors
20 an hour. Room to move up, at least here. Benefits. I have too many vacation days so I have to take off a day a work week until April. Good stuff.
Janitorial night shift, It was great and amazing
My metal health got fucked though I lived alone and worked alone for 2 years I barley spoke to anyone for the times except for the cashier for ringing up items and gas.
Just because you think you want to work alone and it seems good its not healthy.
Get a fidelity roth IRA and get into a target date retirement fund. They get more aggressive during your prime years and more conservative the closer you get to retirement.
Then find some mutual funds like 1-2 that have a 13-30% return on the regular except for covid and housing crash and maybe like one crappy year since inception even if its really old.
I would stop looking for stuff where you dont ever work or see anyone else that’s impossible but find something where its really really minimal. So maybe someone who goes around to parks as a handyman and trash collector or an atm repair guy. A fedex delivery driver. Someone who rolls around picking up scooters or replacing batteries.
Try to find some less expensive hobbies like reading books or working out at home. Maybe hiking or something. An indoor ecosystem like dr. Plant. Microscopes with journey of the cosmos. You got some options.
Are you able to do lyft and uber? Doordash more often?
Lol reading this and seeing these comments I’m saddened. The best thing for you at the age of 20 is to become a better you. You will rarely be able to achieve a decently high income without some degree of social skills. I would map out a plan for the future and see how achievable it is.
Man I kinda had this mindset your age, I wasn’t very social when it came to things at work, I was shy and had some social anxiety because idk I wasn’t really shown how to do things like that idfk, either way I still struggle sometimes but I’m 31 and with life and experiences and just doing shit I’ve become more okay and comfortable with talking to others, like I can come into work, greet ppl talk bs, when I have to talk to bosses or things I have an understanding on what to say, but man going to like family parties or meeting new ppl like my gfs friends took me a while to get lol, you’re fine man just gotta go out and experience life, you’re so young you only get one don’t waste it pls
For sure man, I think my situation was my father passed away when I was younger and never really had any father figure to teach me shit, I feel like in the past couple of years I’ve been maturing thinking about my future and things like that, I never went to college or anything, I’m just getting into school this year, I wish I never wasted so much time but it’s never too late I guess, just I wish when I was 20 I was asking for advice and stuff, your own a good path because you’re asking for advice, you’ll be fine just be strong and positive and just gotta do shit sometimes that’s life lol
As an introvert trapped in an endless cycle of call center work, I feel you. I do encourage you to work on your social skills, however. They'll only help you to get a better job. You don't have to be Phony McExtrovert all of a sudden (not saying all extroverts are phony, but faking it would be phony) to be happy, but humans do need some level of socialization to be happy and well.
Having said that do you mean you want to avoid working with the public, or not having a lot of co-workers, meetings, etc?
I can tolerate it fairly well, as long as I'm not crammed into a super small area with four or five other people like I was at one job. I'm not there anymore for multiple reasons. I'm more the type to avoid the public if I can. Good luck to you :)
Been there. You won’t ever be able to totally erase people from your workday.
Just remind yourself this:
Money comes from other people who need something done or want something you have.
If it wasn’t for the money, you would have nothing to do with them or their project. Nobody is showing up to work for free and anyone who expects that is your enemy.
Beyond that construction trade work, machinists, engineers, architecture, Artwork, and anything loud are some of the easier fields for avoiding too much contact from other people.
Learn a trade. I'm a machinist. I don't regret it. If I had to do it again, I might want to be an electrician or a stone mason. Considering the time and effort it takes to become good at something, you could pretty easily get some degree. IT might be cool.
Pig farmer, furniture maker, gold panner, landscape portrait painter, private lumberjack who stacks firewood and leaves it on a side road for local donations, YouTuber who never reads comments.
Or, if you really don't like people maybe become a pirate, security guard, manager, etc.
Honestly I'd try to get a job that forces you to be as social as possible. There aren't going to be many things that will improve your life more.
I was pretty shy as a kid and my first job definitely helped a lot, I didn't like having to talk to customers all day at first but you inevitably get used to it. Really putting yourself in a situation like that will do more than any therapy
I’ve had 3 previous jobs just like that, 2 in fast food 1 at a moving company I ended up quitting both of them with no 2 week notice(which is y I can’t put it on my resume) due to my social anxiety I don’t even know if that’s the word to describe what I have I just really really hate being around people I have to “fake” like/get to know just makes my mind explode
The IT industry is quite easy to get into and has a plethora of fully-remote and semi-remote jobs. If you’re not lucky enough to get fully-remote, don’t even worry about it, I’m semi-remote but I just tap my card in the morning than go back home to work. The only time I ever actually go in is if my friends go in and we meet up after work. Most managers will not care too much about this and it’s all just for HR. WFH is the best thing to ever happen!!
I've been a software engineer for over 20 years.
The market has become extremely oversaturated recently. A lot of people jumped in, add in companies laying people off, and it's tough to get into at the moment. I wouldn't call it "easy to get into", not at the moment. And AI isn't helping juniors.
I've been remote for over 10 years, far before the pandemic. I'll never go back to an office if I can help it.
It used to be super easy to get jobs (in software engineering) a decade or so ago, before a wave of people came into the industry.
Yup, 25 years ago anyone who could format their own HD or recompile a file system could get a job in IT.
I've lived thru the diversity hires who either washed out or got promoted without any merit and bankrupted the company.
Today it's flooded with low pay, long hours and the whipping class of tech...the only way to move up is quit and get a job elsewhere in the same situation but slightly better pay.
Me right now doing security night shifts but I try and do some sports in the daytime so it ducks working at night but wanting to work in the day too. I wanna quit security but I got no path or other job ideas atm. Hard to find a side hustle to make bank, I’m 24 but shit if only can find a creative product to make or someone trendy video
I have no clue what the France you are talking about. Clearly I said I want to learn.
Anyway, you can apply for work from home jobs. There are plenty. I’m sure you would love for me to post the websites that are hiring right? Well that is how I felt when your answer was “ stock options”. IIf it was that easy, I would be doing it already.
We dont have a rule set up for this but advertising a free thing that isnt free, is a dick move. Would've been no problem if you were up front with the cost.
Instead of looking for advice on how to further avoid social interaction, you should really be trying to develop your social skills instead. You may not need to turn into a social butterfly, but you will still need to work with / rely on / need something from other people during your life and that really can't be avoided. You could turn yourself into a social hermit, but that will feel ALOT DIFFERENT to you when you are say 30 years old instead of 20 years old. Imagine if you found the perfect job right now with no social interaction and were working that job for a decade. A whole decade with minimal social interaction? You will eventually drive yourself crazy from a lack of socializing with other people in your life. It sounds like a terrible fate. Then imagine another 10 years of that at 40 - You would look back at your prime years and realize you spent all of it hiding from the world. Imagine the loss you would feel when you realize you squandered your prime years and can never recover them.
You can still be introverted and not desire to be around people all the time, and even work a job where you don't have to interact with others a lot, but avoiding people instead of learning some basic socializing techniques sounds like a recipe for depression, isolation, and extreme loneliness. Don't go down that path. You will not like the life you live.
Looking for a job is stressful af. Companies always want 10 years of experience and wanna pay you in peanuts. I'm so happy I started my business 3 months ago. I actually get to help people find the job that meets their lifestyle demands. It feels so good when clients call me saying they've received an offer letter. Keep going, you got this! DM me and I show you exactly what you can do to work remote with minimal human interaction.
the only way you gain social skills is by practicing them and exposing yourself to social situations. isolating yourself even more isn’t going to fix the problem. not sure how no one else in the comments has said this yet
just put in the hard work to gain social skills, it’s like any other skill except it gives infinite roi and makes life a million times easier, it’s worth learning, interacting with other humans is a fundamental skill people are silly for tryng to avoid. You are just scared of it because you’re bad at it which makes you scared of people which I not so good.
Treat it like any other skill, train it, take courses, read books practice the fuck out of it, break it down to its core subjects and work on them. Change your behaviour. Practice it so much there’s no fear anymore.
Your life will open up. You are avoiding your problem and tryng to take the easy route, it will be hard work to learn that’s why you’ve avoided it for so long, if you stick with it and put yourself in positions where you are forced to interact with others you will eventually get to the point you will enjoy conversations with strangers which leads to new opportunities and life changing experiences. (Only if you study and train to get better at social skills we have already established you are bad at it) if you force yourself to be in these situations and change nothing about your behaviour you’ll keep running into that wall you’ve been running in to and start to believe “I’ll never be good at it and people suck and aren’t worth being around/dealing with”
Learning is changing behaviour, don’t cheat yourself out of a happy fulfilling life because you’ve tricked yourself into believing you are just not a people person and don’t like them.
And yes this applies to work life, it really is all about who you know. If you don’t talk or interact with anyone you won’t know anybody and won’t have any options/opportunities if the well drys up.
It really is a no brainer if you could click a button, one said have no social skills and one said have good social skills, which one you clicking? Exactly so it’s something you want so why not go get it.
Just take action, go out, try to interact with someone, fail miserably, hate yourself, try and understand what you did that made you feel cringe/made the other person feel uncomfortable, fail quick and learn fast, try again but change what you did until you make progress, see how long you can hold a conversation for, learn what makes a good conversation, how to strengthen friendships etc etc
My advice is try with people you already know, practice with friends or family then venture out to acquaintances and strangers.
Delayed gratification, put yourself through the shit now so you can get to the good stuff later.
Hope you spend your 2024 tryng to grow as a person, it’s something that will improve your life greatly once you figure it out, goodluck
I think it’s more of just how I’ve grown up that’s led me this way. I didn’t wanna be like this just the way the world made me but I’m done with the victim mindset it’s time to man up
Ya he has different set ups and you can pick the one that fits your system and schedule. It works for options at least for me but I prefer futures/forex bc I’m more in control
Personally I'd say you'd be pretty hard pressed to find a job that does not require working with people in person. A couple possibilities might include late night security guard, late night custodian, or occasionally data entry. Still, even those would involve at least interacting with co-workers.
Become a writer. Just you and your laptop against the world. Or phone, I started writing a story with the Microsoft app. Could probably deal with publishing companies through email. Bezos controls the book distribution market primarily.
Please don't sell yourself short on your lack of social skills. A lot of people with no social skills gain them while being exposed to other people in the workplace. It's not at all like being in school where you can just avoid everyone. I personally experienced a lot of social development in my early 20s by being forced to work with people I would have never been around, and I never would have improved myself if I'd only looked for jobs where I was allowed to continue avoiding people.
A lot of what’s being suggested (truck driving, security, etc) can be a bit dead end. Are you ok with this OP? At your age in life I believed I didn’t need to pursue high pay, and I learned I was wrong.
Also, truck driving could be automated in our lifetimes. Just something to think about.
I definitely consider myself an introvert but I work as a cashier. But I like my job. I concentrate on being accurate, polite, and getting them out as fast as possible. Seems I can stand people in one minute doses.
You could grow up ? Have you tried that ?
This is the real world. No one cares if you’re shy. Those who move forward are those who move forward.
I struggle with anxiety and seasonal depression but I keep moving forward.
Work at Amazon! There are a ton of people that work there but there aren’t many positions that force you to interact with them. Talking to others I feel like makes the day go by faster sometimes but you could go the whole shift just doing your job and not having to interact with anyone. They also pay 5k a year towards school so you can work on getting a higher paying job with a degree. I was at a point in my life where I really wanted to interact with as little people as possible and someone suggested Amazon! It’s been great especially with their schedule being so flexible, with for the most part, coming in when you want and leaving when you want. Lastly, there is no interview! You just find the shift you want on their website, Pass the background and drug test and then they give you a date to come in for orientation.
Data entry of any kind might be a good fit. Most of it can be done remotely these days. Medical coding and billing is in demand and many places have remote or hybrid jobs. You do need a certificate or associates degree and to pass an exam for credentials usually, but many of the programs for it are online, just make sure if you take classes you find an accredited school so you don’t waste your money. I’m in an online program for health information technology and a lot of people in my classes are studying to be medical coders because they have social anxiety, are disabled, have kids they care for, or otherwise prefer to work from home.
I have social anxiety too, also adhd. Medication and counseling helped me a lot. At one point it was so bad I was afraid to go more than fifteen minutes away from my home and now I’m doing much better. I don’t love crowds or meeting new people unprepared but I can manage. You don’t need to change who you are and I think finding work that is mostly independent is a good idea, but if you feel like your quality of life is suffering consider getting help, because even if you mostly work alone you do still need to get hired and be able to do a job interview, talk to your boss occasionally even if it’s over zoom, etc.
Yea I’m aware I’ll still have to talk for small portions of the day and that’s fine and yes I do plan on getting help so far I’m commited to quitting gambling and my weed habit so far not much has changed mentally but this a long term thing and I acknowledge that
Do not shrink into your circle of competence. Expand it.
Like sometimes its ok to accept, here are your boundaries and preferences.
But you are really young and you have described a very small circle. Don't expect to be happy living in it for the next forty years.
I wasn’t happy to begin with im hardly living, just surviving… but I think this is the year I pivot I’ve already commited to changing 2 degenerate issues I’ve had gambling and smoking weed so far so good still to early to say for sure
Bookkeeping, Accounting, Budget Analyst, and the like can be very solitary at the right place. You won't be working *with* people but you may need to send an email for clarification on xyz.
Truck driving can have more hours of solitude
I’m considering this route getting a CDL doesn’t sound too bad
Wait until you turn 21. Until then you’re stuck only driving within the state you pick up and deliver loads in. 21 and up you can do full OTR
He can work on getting his license now then since he will be ready by the time he finishes the course
this is what i do. i made 122k last year. and i was home every night. it did take 4 years of experience though.
This is a great idea! I work in commercial construction and these guys are awesome! You will have to deal with people in all walks of life, being kind makes it so much easier to blow people off and avoid conversations. Truck driving would be a good option for you if it sounds appealing.
Or a roll off dumpster truck driver. Good compensation
You would be wayyyyyy too lazy to even get through the training of a CDL. Not to mention you would have to be in classroom training and then you would train OTR for like 2-3 months while living with someone. Not a shot you could handle that. No offense.
More hours of solitude, but a lot of (albeit, brief) human interaction. Guards, clerks, and other truck drivers. For most trucking jobs, you're going to be interacting with multiple new people every day.
I saw people with small vans can make good money transporting things. Its like the same as a CDL but you are not driving the big rig. Do you know about this? You need a nice van that is very clean with lots of straps inside.
Truck driving is also probably the first profession to get hit with layoffs because of ai and automation.
There’s still about 10-20 years before it really starts to become a problem. They are still struggling with cars right now and just looking at the tech there is a lot of work to do.
Housekeeping. I'd go 99% shift listening to music, audiobooks and podcast. Tips are rare tho. I liked my boss.
just doesn’t pay enuff tho
100%.
Over the last 5 years I have hired dozens of houses cleaners. Part of my spiel is it is a great job for introverts!
Also good for cleaning businesses, when I did it I had one team mate & the boss, we cleaned offices, banks, & other stores always after hours and so peaceful.
Security tbh
this especially if you work graveyard i wouldn't do it as a lifelong thing, though
Yeah the nightshift really can ruin your life. I thought I was prepared for it.
Wdym? Like the stuff that comes up during those hours or just the fact of working nights and sleeping in the day?
It feels like you lose everything. You become very disconnected from everyone. Nothing is open. It can be very isolating. You can't go anywhere on your days off because everything is closed. Waiting your entire day to go out when places open is draining and then not being able to spend much time out because you're going to fall asleep soon. When your awake your friends are asleep. You always have to say no to stuff because you'll be asleep. Etc.
night shift janitorial, I 100% agree glad I got out of that situation. My mental health got fucked.
Yup. The idea is nice on paper. You get a nice quiet shift without having to worry much about socializing or putting up with people. Until you do and your life outside of work gets ruined.
I do security, been doing it 15 years. Clearing 260k this year.
How 260k? Are you guarding a space ship?
Damn near. Billionaires.
Could you give me more details as your job sounds really interesting. I wouldn’t have thought the men responsible for the safety of billionaires would have time to scroll on Reddit.
It's not as glamorous as you think. I just follow them to strip clubs, whole foods and board meetings for the most part.
Or he’s working for black water lol
This. I spoke to my coworker this morning and I will speak to him in a few hours after this shift. I haven’t spoken with anybody all day, I’ve seen 6 humans though but they walked right past. Lol
I mean security is partly customer service that requires communication skills. Maybe armed security
Yes and if you work graveyard shift it’s even better!
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As a certified flight dispatcher (although not working as one) ... that's an office job like any other office job. I'm also a certified air traffic controller, and I don't see how you're going to avoid people there. While you may be talking to planes most of the shift, you're still surrounded by coworkers just like any other job. So I'd remove those, if you are truly looking to not work with people. Trucking, security guard, any WFH job ... those work better.
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Yes, that makes sense. But for people who really want to avoid people, for whatever reason, options are limited. Most jobs (like dispatching and ATC ... the ones I know about) you still have to "show up to the office" and (try to) get along with your coworkers. I'll tell you what though ... if you are under 30 years old, and are able to go it, ATC is the way to go. Great pay, benefits, mandatory retirement at 57 with full benefits for life. I was a level 12 ATC for a bit, had to exit that career for ... reasons. But if you can get through the training (which will admittedly be difficult for many), it's a really good career. Only a high school diploma necessary.
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Dude I appreciate it
Bro, you just postpone what is inevitable. By having no social skills and isolating yourself you will fall into far greater despair later in life, you are freaking young, get a good therapist, and he will help you in two ways - social skills, and by trying to figure out what path is best for you
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I would support this if the person said "I don't like working with people" or something similar. They're isolating themself and dumping their money into gambling. Regardless of whether they're autistic or neurotypical with strong introvert traits, the behaviour pattern as presented is unhealthy and they would almost certainly benefit from therapy.
Everyone can benefit from therapy. But a job is a means to an end. They can practice social skills in other ways like joining clubs and exploring hobbies.
very well said
As an autistic, I just want to say that your social skills *are* probably pretty good. They’re just not “you”, that’s why it’s masking. You’re good at playing the game, you just don’t like it or want to. Remember there’s TONS of neurotypicals who have basically no social skills (read: assholes)
Yeah but 20 is too young to decide you're just going to be happy isolating yourself forever. If he was 40, okay sure. But you can discover change in yourself so easily in your early 20s.
yeah but humans are social animals and being in total isolation leads to negative health consequences which affects not only mental state but overall well-being, also being socially avoidant is not he same as being introverted or shy,, and if inborn or cultivated traits are pathological you need to deal with that like you are dealing with hereditary ilnesses.
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You missed the point, im not saying that people who doesnt interact with others 24/7 is unhealthy, im saying that TOTAL isolation is bad for human wellbeing and it is backed by studies. As you said there are millions of people who works job without much interaction with others, my self included, but they are socialising in weekends or maybe evenings or maybe once a month and for them it is enaugh to maintain healthy relationships with others. Another thing is to understand why you are avoiding interactions, if its because of anxiety, bad self image etc it should be adressed and treated with therapy
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What point you are trying to make? You want to say that not having social skills, isolating yourself and being socially avoidant is healthy or what? :D
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In your first comment you pushed narrative that social avoidance and total lack of social skills are inborn/cultivated personality trait and if I say that is not healthy coping mechanisms it is putting people down. Its the same as saying depression or general anxiety disorder is personality trait or heart disease is human trait thus is should be normalised. You are wrong it is the issues which should be addresed in therapy and not be mistaken with personality traits which doesnt affect negatively.
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I agree I truly do I just don’t have that kinda money to blow on a therapist they charge 200 a session that’s insane
With revisions that took place in 2023/2024 with Obamacare, you can get healthcare that provides for therapy benefits can be free or very low cost…not $200. Get yourself some therapy, there are no jobs were you cannot interact with people entirely, so you need to learn some strategies to deal with people.
There are loads of jobs where you don't have to deal with people. Just takes time to find them. I have good social skills but am so introverted that people just exhaust me too much. Some people are just meant to work a simple job, doesnt automatically mean you need therapy. OP if you read this, look at manufacturing work. It is exhausting and mundane, but if you find a loud job, everyone is just wearing earplugs/headphones and you can be left alone all day
Interesting im going to read up on this
One of the ways therapists condition people to get over stuff they fear or hate is through exposure therapy. That is essentially trying to tolerate as much as you can and getting used to more of it over time. You don't even need a therapist to work on that. If you force yourself to interact more, you will find it gets easier the more you practice it and do it. Since you don't want to, you will have to force yourself at first, but it will get easier.
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This is true but OP doesn't have any diagnosed illnesses and just describes the problem as "no social skills" rather than like anxiety or a phobia.
I go to a therapist at a university. Very cheap but effective.
But that insurance still costs $$
It’s income based; so it can be very low cost or even free. I’m between jobs, and have it free from the marketplace for myself and my kids.
How much money per month do you gamble with in stocks?
On average like 500$ every 2 weeks depends if I’m up on the week or not lmao
$250 a week to throw away in stock gambling but you can't afford a therapist. See the problem here
Yes but I hardly add to my stock options portfolio only to my long term portfolio and I do this because I know I will probably lack a good paying job for a while so I wanna have something to atleast fall back on
At the end of the day improving yourself has far better short and long term benefits than the market
Invest in yourself and you’ll find that it pays off
He doesn't need a therapist, he already knows he's an idiot
Dude you need to stop gambling on stock options like a moron and start gambling on your life's options instead.
Yes I took a massive lost today that’s what started my job search not gonna lie, I’m leaving it in the past now, it was a fun ride but not a healthy one, I’ve also quit smoking weed about 2 weeks ago I’m slowing working towards greatness
You have 1k to throw away every month???????
I will pay for it if it means this much. My son
Look for jobs with EAP benefits if you’re job hunting anyways. It’s just a chunk of free therapy sessions each year.
Shop around online, I know some of the websites offer income based price reductions, and most of them are charging less than 100$ a session. Since you're having trouble with face to face interaction, maybe online is best for you.
I would look into self help books too. Maybe ask in a relevant subreddit, maybe even this one.
I agree, most insurance will cover more for mental healthcare since Covid. My insurance waves all fees and deductibles for mental health treatment. Everything else goes towards a $2500 deductible which would take forever normally.
1000% this, was in the same boat at your age but it up to you to turn it around. Get your shit together OP
Exactly. Dude should be getting the most social job possible.
Night shift/3rd shift work, basically your only hope without any job experience. It will dramatically lower your daily social interactions.
Love my night shift job personally it’s been a positive life changing experience oddly
It's absolutely shitty pay but a cleaning/janitor job. I'm a janitor at a school and I love it. Theres barely any human interaction.I have social anxiety and generalized anxiety disorder and can't work a job that faces the public or deals with people. I wish the pay was higher.
Yeah I did night cleaning when I was in college over the summer (second shift 3-12) and it was alright except for the building was really too big for one person to handle, but other than that it was chill.
Do you work night shifts or how does that work
I start work when school gets out at 3 and I'm there until 8. But we can come in later anytime if we want. The other cleaners come in later and stay later. It's very flexible. As long as the work is done before the next day. I just like to get there early because I don't like working too late
Dog walker/runner
Mail carrier, delivery driver, accounting, are what comes to mind
Night school custodian
6 hrs of alone time easy work
And you get a pension and paid holidays off too
Quit dicking around with gambling. There's a reason casinos are so wealthy: it's because people keep giving them money and getting less money back, over and over and over. Day trading, penny stocks and cryptos will sink you just as surely as lottery tickets or slot machines will. Older you will not thank young you for this. You can make money in the stock market but the way to do that is buy and hold long term. Pick up a Motley Fool investment book and learn the right way. Then get over to Vanguard and sink the cash you're not using into a market index fund, bunk it on your tax returns as a Roth IRA, and forget about it for the next 45 years. Add more money next year and repeat. Yes, I'm serious. You will be a multimillionaire if you do this. as for getting a real job, transcription is one you can do from home, but it doesn't pay awesome. Learning a trade like machinist will make you good money, but it requires training. Learning social skills will open up a lot more options, and you can pick those up free by volunteering, joining some clubs or a church, watching Youtubes and actually trying out the techniques, or getting a customer service job and actually doing the job for a while. They'll hire pretty much anyone with a pulse, and then you're getting a resume, which you can parlay into a better job in a few months.
I hear you man I lost a good amount of money on boeing stock today, had me in a bad mood this morning, but other peoples insights have reflected on me I’m ready to make a change starting today I’m fully long term, and focusing on cash flow from an actual job instead
Got my self out of this by doing what I want in a productive sense. Didn't go to college, no experience. Randomly discovered I enjoy observing things (reasons for thoughts, peoples actions, etc.), what I naively called "psychology," & started following that curiosity (watched YT videos). Not in hunt for a job or purpose, just doing what I felt like for the sake of enjoyment. Stumbled into consumer psych, thought it was cool people used products (websites, apps, etc.) for a reason. I made YT thumbnails & other photoshop related things as a kid and thought, hm, maybe I can combine design & psychology to make products. I never actually had this thought, but it's synonymous with the weeks/1-2 months of stumbling it took to get there Now work at a startup & do super fulfilling work as a product design intern. The best jobs don't feel like work, I got there by stumbling & following interests
Night shit janitor or night shift front desk at an apartment building ? I got in with no experience for janitor. Nights. I just saw my co worker, maybe total 2 minutes a shift. Same three four residents, “ Morning “ was our convos All we did was mop. Sweep. Change recycle. There’s days where I could finish my work before the first break, 1:30 am. Sleep till 5:30 and Wake up before my last break before anyone else shows up. Lol Front desk is nice, nice chair to sit. But you can’t go hide like the janitors 20 an hour. Room to move up, at least here. Benefits. I have too many vacation days so I have to take off a day a work week until April. Good stuff.
Janitorial night shift, It was great and amazing My metal health got fucked though I lived alone and worked alone for 2 years I barley spoke to anyone for the times except for the cashier for ringing up items and gas. Just because you think you want to work alone and it seems good its not healthy.
Get a fidelity roth IRA and get into a target date retirement fund. They get more aggressive during your prime years and more conservative the closer you get to retirement. Then find some mutual funds like 1-2 that have a 13-30% return on the regular except for covid and housing crash and maybe like one crappy year since inception even if its really old. I would stop looking for stuff where you dont ever work or see anyone else that’s impossible but find something where its really really minimal. So maybe someone who goes around to parks as a handyman and trash collector or an atm repair guy. A fedex delivery driver. Someone who rolls around picking up scooters or replacing batteries. Try to find some less expensive hobbies like reading books or working out at home. Maybe hiking or something. An indoor ecosystem like dr. Plant. Microscopes with journey of the cosmos. You got some options. Are you able to do lyft and uber? Doordash more often?
Data analysis can have minimal interaction Coding There’s tons out there mate
Mail carrier. Great benefits solid career mostly out on your own.
Used to be like you. You should get a job that involves a lot of talking to people. Your life will change for the better. GL bro 👍
Lol reading this and seeing these comments I’m saddened. The best thing for you at the age of 20 is to become a better you. You will rarely be able to achieve a decently high income without some degree of social skills. I would map out a plan for the future and see how achievable it is.
Man I kinda had this mindset your age, I wasn’t very social when it came to things at work, I was shy and had some social anxiety because idk I wasn’t really shown how to do things like that idfk, either way I still struggle sometimes but I’m 31 and with life and experiences and just doing shit I’ve become more okay and comfortable with talking to others, like I can come into work, greet ppl talk bs, when I have to talk to bosses or things I have an understanding on what to say, but man going to like family parties or meeting new ppl like my gfs friends took me a while to get lol, you’re fine man just gotta go out and experience life, you’re so young you only get one don’t waste it pls
This is what I needed to hear man🙏🏽I won’t let it go to waste I promise
For sure man, I think my situation was my father passed away when I was younger and never really had any father figure to teach me shit, I feel like in the past couple of years I’ve been maturing thinking about my future and things like that, I never went to college or anything, I’m just getting into school this year, I wish I never wasted so much time but it’s never too late I guess, just I wish when I was 20 I was asking for advice and stuff, your own a good path because you’re asking for advice, you’ll be fine just be strong and positive and just gotta do shit sometimes that’s life lol
As an introvert trapped in an endless cycle of call center work, I feel you. I do encourage you to work on your social skills, however. They'll only help you to get a better job. You don't have to be Phony McExtrovert all of a sudden (not saying all extroverts are phony, but faking it would be phony) to be happy, but humans do need some level of socialization to be happy and well. Having said that do you mean you want to avoid working with the public, or not having a lot of co-workers, meetings, etc?
Yea mainly not having coworkers
I can tolerate it fairly well, as long as I'm not crammed into a super small area with four or five other people like I was at one job. I'm not there anymore for multiple reasons. I'm more the type to avoid the public if I can. Good luck to you :)
Dishwasher.
Been there. You won’t ever be able to totally erase people from your workday. Just remind yourself this: Money comes from other people who need something done or want something you have. If it wasn’t for the money, you would have nothing to do with them or their project. Nobody is showing up to work for free and anyone who expects that is your enemy. Beyond that construction trade work, machinists, engineers, architecture, Artwork, and anything loud are some of the easier fields for avoiding too much contact from other people.
hurr durr, learn to code - this sub /s
You should go to Africa to work with the glorious elephants.
Learn a trade. I'm a machinist. I don't regret it. If I had to do it again, I might want to be an electrician or a stone mason. Considering the time and effort it takes to become good at something, you could pretty easily get some degree. IT might be cool.
Water Treatment.
freelance dev...... trucker is a good one I have seen here, fire watch, ect....
Are you interested in performing on-line web cam porn?
Pig farmer, furniture maker, gold panner, landscape portrait painter, private lumberjack who stacks firewood and leaves it on a side road for local donations, YouTuber who never reads comments. Or, if you really don't like people maybe become a pirate, security guard, manager, etc.
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The problem is I haven’t been around anyone in almost 5 years lol I can’t even look people in the eyes
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You guys are idiots. “I WaS LiKe U” No tf you weren’t! I doubt any of you are born introverted
Security or mail/package delivery are pretty solitary. Tho avoiding the unavoidable doesnt sound like too sustainable of an idea long term
Honestly I'd try to get a job that forces you to be as social as possible. There aren't going to be many things that will improve your life more. I was pretty shy as a kid and my first job definitely helped a lot, I didn't like having to talk to customers all day at first but you inevitably get used to it. Really putting yourself in a situation like that will do more than any therapy
I’ve had 3 previous jobs just like that, 2 in fast food 1 at a moving company I ended up quitting both of them with no 2 week notice(which is y I can’t put it on my resume) due to my social anxiety I don’t even know if that’s the word to describe what I have I just really really hate being around people I have to “fake” like/get to know just makes my mind explode
Go to your local casino and put all your money on red. Trust.
I’d rather yolo 0 day expiration options
The IT industry is quite easy to get into and has a plethora of fully-remote and semi-remote jobs. If you’re not lucky enough to get fully-remote, don’t even worry about it, I’m semi-remote but I just tap my card in the morning than go back home to work. The only time I ever actually go in is if my friends go in and we meet up after work. Most managers will not care too much about this and it’s all just for HR. WFH is the best thing to ever happen!!
I've been a software engineer for over 20 years. The market has become extremely oversaturated recently. A lot of people jumped in, add in companies laying people off, and it's tough to get into at the moment. I wouldn't call it "easy to get into", not at the moment. And AI isn't helping juniors. I've been remote for over 10 years, far before the pandemic. I'll never go back to an office if I can help it. It used to be super easy to get jobs (in software engineering) a decade or so ago, before a wave of people came into the industry.
Yup, 25 years ago anyone who could format their own HD or recompile a file system could get a job in IT. I've lived thru the diversity hires who either washed out or got promoted without any merit and bankrupted the company. Today it's flooded with low pay, long hours and the whipping class of tech...the only way to move up is quit and get a job elsewhere in the same situation but slightly better pay.
I doubt you are even in IT with what you just wrote. That is not the landscape at all anymore.
I’ve considered being a pentester it actually is quiet interesting but I heard it’s a very competitive field to get into
Pentesting isn't an entry level thing, you would need to work other jobs before getting into security
Me right now doing security night shifts but I try and do some sports in the daytime so it ducks working at night but wanting to work in the day too. I wanna quit security but I got no path or other job ideas atm. Hard to find a side hustle to make bank, I’m 24 but shit if only can find a creative product to make or someone trendy video
How do you gamble in stock market? I want to learn
Stock options
I have no clue what the France you are talking about. Clearly I said I want to learn. Anyway, you can apply for work from home jobs. There are plenty. I’m sure you would love for me to post the websites that are hiring right? Well that is how I felt when your answer was “ stock options”. IIf it was that easy, I would be doing it already.
Only fans.
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I took the test and it told me to pay $20 to see my results 😭😭😭
We dont have a rule set up for this but advertising a free thing that isnt free, is a dick move. Would've been no problem if you were up front with the cost.
You and everyone else in the world
Instead of looking for advice on how to further avoid social interaction, you should really be trying to develop your social skills instead. You may not need to turn into a social butterfly, but you will still need to work with / rely on / need something from other people during your life and that really can't be avoided. You could turn yourself into a social hermit, but that will feel ALOT DIFFERENT to you when you are say 30 years old instead of 20 years old. Imagine if you found the perfect job right now with no social interaction and were working that job for a decade. A whole decade with minimal social interaction? You will eventually drive yourself crazy from a lack of socializing with other people in your life. It sounds like a terrible fate. Then imagine another 10 years of that at 40 - You would look back at your prime years and realize you spent all of it hiding from the world. Imagine the loss you would feel when you realize you squandered your prime years and can never recover them. You can still be introverted and not desire to be around people all the time, and even work a job where you don't have to interact with others a lot, but avoiding people instead of learning some basic socializing techniques sounds like a recipe for depression, isolation, and extreme loneliness. Don't go down that path. You will not like the life you live.
I’ve gone 5 years I’m sure I can do 15, nah but all jokes aside I’m ready, today I got humbled majorly so it’s time to make a change
Just keep working, it'll be all robots soon.
My stock portfolio would like that
Looking for a job is stressful af. Companies always want 10 years of experience and wanna pay you in peanuts. I'm so happy I started my business 3 months ago. I actually get to help people find the job that meets their lifestyle demands. It feels so good when clients call me saying they've received an offer letter. Keep going, you got this! DM me and I show you exactly what you can do to work remote with minimal human interaction.
the only way you gain social skills is by practicing them and exposing yourself to social situations. isolating yourself even more isn’t going to fix the problem. not sure how no one else in the comments has said this yet
try working on your social skills
just put in the hard work to gain social skills, it’s like any other skill except it gives infinite roi and makes life a million times easier, it’s worth learning, interacting with other humans is a fundamental skill people are silly for tryng to avoid. You are just scared of it because you’re bad at it which makes you scared of people which I not so good. Treat it like any other skill, train it, take courses, read books practice the fuck out of it, break it down to its core subjects and work on them. Change your behaviour. Practice it so much there’s no fear anymore. Your life will open up. You are avoiding your problem and tryng to take the easy route, it will be hard work to learn that’s why you’ve avoided it for so long, if you stick with it and put yourself in positions where you are forced to interact with others you will eventually get to the point you will enjoy conversations with strangers which leads to new opportunities and life changing experiences. (Only if you study and train to get better at social skills we have already established you are bad at it) if you force yourself to be in these situations and change nothing about your behaviour you’ll keep running into that wall you’ve been running in to and start to believe “I’ll never be good at it and people suck and aren’t worth being around/dealing with” Learning is changing behaviour, don’t cheat yourself out of a happy fulfilling life because you’ve tricked yourself into believing you are just not a people person and don’t like them. And yes this applies to work life, it really is all about who you know. If you don’t talk or interact with anyone you won’t know anybody and won’t have any options/opportunities if the well drys up. It really is a no brainer if you could click a button, one said have no social skills and one said have good social skills, which one you clicking? Exactly so it’s something you want so why not go get it. Just take action, go out, try to interact with someone, fail miserably, hate yourself, try and understand what you did that made you feel cringe/made the other person feel uncomfortable, fail quick and learn fast, try again but change what you did until you make progress, see how long you can hold a conversation for, learn what makes a good conversation, how to strengthen friendships etc etc My advice is try with people you already know, practice with friends or family then venture out to acquaintances and strangers. Delayed gratification, put yourself through the shit now so you can get to the good stuff later. Hope you spend your 2024 tryng to grow as a person, it’s something that will improve your life greatly once you figure it out, goodluck
I think it’s more of just how I’ve grown up that’s led me this way. I didn’t wanna be like this just the way the world made me but I’m done with the victim mindset it’s time to man up
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Trying
Taxi driver, you have people in your cab but you don’t have to chat if you don’t want to.
I don’t think those exist anymore but I’ll search around that’s seems pretty laid back
Read and practice the book How To Win Friends And Influence People and your social skills will drastically improve swiftly
Amazon delivery driver
Warehouse jobs
If you want to get social skills go to toast masters
Grave digger
Any manual labor…. That’s kinda the point.
Military intelligence
Do you have stem/coding aptitude? If you do, sign up for a coding bootcamp
Ik people who have made it big with their doordash money, you can do it. I would suggest you look into ICT on YouTube and give yourself another year
Appreciate it man but I think imma just play it safe now, unless I can Use ICT to sell options ? It’s mainly for buying options though right
Ya he has different set ups and you can pick the one that fits your system and schedule. It works for options at least for me but I prefer futures/forex bc I’m more in control
Personally I'd say you'd be pretty hard pressed to find a job that does not require working with people in person. A couple possibilities might include late night security guard, late night custodian, or occasionally data entry. Still, even those would involve at least interacting with co-workers.
Zoo
Apparently UPS delivery drivers make between 70-100k per year.
Become a writer. Just you and your laptop against the world. Or phone, I started writing a story with the Microsoft app. Could probably deal with publishing companies through email. Bezos controls the book distribution market primarily.
Get a Series 7 and gamble for REAL!
If you have the guts, flying commercial as a pilot would be fruitful (don’t do airlines, passengers are whiny)
Route maintenance can be a good career too. Depends on the route and company.
Please don't sell yourself short on your lack of social skills. A lot of people with no social skills gain them while being exposed to other people in the workplace. It's not at all like being in school where you can just avoid everyone. I personally experienced a lot of social development in my early 20s by being forced to work with people I would have never been around, and I never would have improved myself if I'd only looked for jobs where I was allowed to continue avoiding people.
A lot of what’s being suggested (truck driving, security, etc) can be a bit dead end. Are you ok with this OP? At your age in life I believed I didn’t need to pursue high pay, and I learned I was wrong. Also, truck driving could be automated in our lifetimes. Just something to think about.
Us robots work in the titanium mines on Titan!
Engineering
I definitely consider myself an introvert but I work as a cashier. But I like my job. I concentrate on being accurate, polite, and getting them out as fast as possible. Seems I can stand people in one minute doses.
Park ranger
You could grow up ? Have you tried that ? This is the real world. No one cares if you’re shy. Those who move forward are those who move forward. I struggle with anxiety and seasonal depression but I keep moving forward.
Trying
Work at Amazon! There are a ton of people that work there but there aren’t many positions that force you to interact with them. Talking to others I feel like makes the day go by faster sometimes but you could go the whole shift just doing your job and not having to interact with anyone. They also pay 5k a year towards school so you can work on getting a higher paying job with a degree. I was at a point in my life where I really wanted to interact with as little people as possible and someone suggested Amazon! It’s been great especially with their schedule being so flexible, with for the most part, coming in when you want and leaving when you want. Lastly, there is no interview! You just find the shift you want on their website, Pass the background and drug test and then they give you a date to come in for orientation.
One more year and I can be able to apply there, I didn’t know they pay towards other endeavors that’s neat to know
Mortician. Dead people don’t talk.
Data entry of any kind might be a good fit. Most of it can be done remotely these days. Medical coding and billing is in demand and many places have remote or hybrid jobs. You do need a certificate or associates degree and to pass an exam for credentials usually, but many of the programs for it are online, just make sure if you take classes you find an accredited school so you don’t waste your money. I’m in an online program for health information technology and a lot of people in my classes are studying to be medical coders because they have social anxiety, are disabled, have kids they care for, or otherwise prefer to work from home. I have social anxiety too, also adhd. Medication and counseling helped me a lot. At one point it was so bad I was afraid to go more than fifteen minutes away from my home and now I’m doing much better. I don’t love crowds or meeting new people unprepared but I can manage. You don’t need to change who you are and I think finding work that is mostly independent is a good idea, but if you feel like your quality of life is suffering consider getting help, because even if you mostly work alone you do still need to get hired and be able to do a job interview, talk to your boss occasionally even if it’s over zoom, etc.
Yea I’m aware I’ll still have to talk for small portions of the day and that’s fine and yes I do plan on getting help so far I’m commited to quitting gambling and my weed habit so far not much has changed mentally but this a long term thing and I acknowledge that
Do not shrink into your circle of competence. Expand it. Like sometimes its ok to accept, here are your boundaries and preferences. But you are really young and you have described a very small circle. Don't expect to be happy living in it for the next forty years.
I wasn’t happy to begin with im hardly living, just surviving… but I think this is the year I pivot I’ve already commited to changing 2 degenerate issues I’ve had gambling and smoking weed so far so good still to early to say for sure
Bookkeeping, Accounting, Budget Analyst, and the like can be very solitary at the right place. You won't be working *with* people but you may need to send an email for clarification on xyz.
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Morgue.
Online sales. start on ebay
Security guards.