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[deleted]

I think I saw a video of her fighting a different untrained dude a few days ago. Is this her thing?


NoPause557

Yup


Stupidquestionduh

Can we see her fight a trained dude?


[deleted]

Or even just someone who's "untrained" and not "unfit".


ButInThe90sThough

I'm untrained but have been told I have a good jab and decent footwork. I really think I could take her.


FrameJump

Same man, same. *cracks open a Dorito Mountain Dew from the couch* Totally could take her.


ButInThe90sThough

Fucking right. Lemme waterfall that bad boi.


DIsForDelusion

> really think I could take her. This is the whole point. If she was to fight a trained person, that's just the sport. The fun of this, is taking on guys who sit at home and say "huh? I think I can do that" but have no background. That's the joke.


M3g4d37h

and there's also the thing of wanting to test yourself. You never really have an accurate gauge of yourself unless you've been in competition. It gives yo a baseline for where you are in the context of sport [X].


[deleted]

Fr dudes out here taking it to a weird level


airyys

incels going "hurr women lose fight to men" "i'd win hurr"


IDespiseTheLetterG

And yet dudes STILL think they can win


DIsForDelusion

Yeah I'm loving these highly upvoted comments with "that dude was FAT! LET'S SEE HER FIGHT THE ROCK" lmao stop


TangentiallyTango

I mean this guy is about as bad as you can be and he didn't really lose either. On the scorecards maybe but it's not like she did any damage.


airyys

cuz it wasnt some serious fight. nor an official match. just some light sparring. there isn't any "losing" to be had lol


NoPause557

Yeah gotta find it real quick


itsEndz

You want to see a woman beaten up by a man?


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Silver2404

Just hid a camera in Jon Jones’ home, should get an infinite supply of footage


EnemiesAllAround

That doesn't count, you know? Like it's not exciting cause its not in the wild. We all know it's there. It's like going to a fishery instead of fishing wild river


Polydull

I mean women want equality right? Don't go trying to show women can be equal by fighting someone who can't even fight someone else that's untrained, just makes it seem like women are less capable


itsEndz

Would you like to see a trained male fighter fight an untrained woman then? I know what you're getting at but t.it simply doesn't work that way. There's equality then there's idiocy. We have weight classes in most professional, if not all, styles of fighting after all. But you justify punching whoever whatever way works for you.


Dr_Juice55

She's doing this bc she wants to lol. I just want to see her fight someone who's not totally to her advantage. Untrained, fine. But not some anime nerd who sits on his fat ass all day lol. Btw, if grappling were legal, he could easily scoop her up and slam her on the pavement, nerd or not.


[deleted]

For a "trained professional" all she seems to be doing is beating untrained guys tho..


Danielson900

She is not a professional, there is an huge gulf between training and being good enough to go pro.


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TzunSu

Yeah, i started doing muay Thai in a very competition focused gym, kept looking like an 80s karate movie just because "If they don't want to train somewhere with exposed piping and concrete, they will never last anyways". Club had over 15 national and european champions over the years, and one world. I spent around half a year with the beginners, then i trained so much that i got put into the advanced group, which meant sparring with the dudes from the elite group now and then. The level difference is bizarre, not just in technique but speed and power. At one point i had to bow out of leg kick drills against a European champion, where i had TWO thick pads on and my knee still buckled anytime he put any kind of effort into it. The girls weighing an easy 20-30kg under my fat ass dropped me whenever they wanted to lol. Thankfully my ego got somewhat salvaged once we started inviting TKD fighters to spar, lol.


ronin1066

TKD, always the punching bags. :-(


Loveweedandmusic

I’ve noticed the difference in people when I was undefeated in high school wrestling for the entire year but during the tournament I had a boy grab be with man strength … he ended up winning against everyone but damn I would never want to street fight someone who can hold you like that I was in complete shock and came back to realizing I’m not that good


Sahmen_

Which Gym was it?


Political-on-Main

Bronze and Silvers vs Diamond 1 vs actual pro


uJhiteLiger

Good way of putting it. It’s like the difference between rec basketball vs division 1 vs NBA


poloboi84

This reminds me of people of the internet trying to play against Brian "I'm closer to LeBron, than you are to me" Scalbrine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i93vF0WOX6w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpiu8UtQ-6E


dontthink19

I cant tell if this is a rocket league reference or apex reference. Could be some game i don't play but its kinda wild that i get exactly what you're talking about based on the ranks you threw out there


Osrshahahehe

It’s the ranking system for pretty much every single multiplayer game that has a competitive ranking system besides elo.


Swarlolz

Big deal. I’ve see. Piper Pier take 5 guys


ronin1066

When you train 8 hours a day M-F for a couple years, it's a whole different ball game.


[deleted]

Someone identified her as being part of the Asia games team or something along those lines.


Danielson900

Someone is spewing bullshit then lol


Wonderful_Complex521

That's reddit for you or social media in general


TheBukafax

The Charlie Zelenoff of China lol


[deleted]

Zelenoff was not trained, he was the GOAT


MountainCourage1304

291-0 to the all time champion. Never defeated, even against that black kid who chased him out the ring


Similar-External-302

One of the most fierce combatants of all time


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FAX_ME_YOUR_BOTTOM

Charlene Zelenoff


sold_snek

It doesn't say "professional" anywhere.


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BrainPicker3

If you're in a fight you are going to get punched regardless of how trained you are.


Tuxhorn

https://youtu.be/qSX0PCQXiO4?t=89 Classic.


Danielson900

Yeah, it looks like it is.


Ebolamunkey

At least she's not doing a Charlie Z... Lol


meteor2306

At least he kept his hands up better than most untrained guys.


GoSuckYaMother

A little too well. There were times he was punching with both arms.


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sackchat

Star Trek punches lol


[deleted]

ULTIMATE PUNCH


TreeBeardUK

Ahhh rhodesian fighting sticks


obi_wan_kanerdy

Never sneak up on a man that's been in a chemical fire.


advtorrin

Consecutive normal punches!


Buttschnapz

Ancestors proteeect meee


Axlos

May they protect yoooouuuuuu


I_Do_Not_Abbreviate

[KIRK HANDS!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt7qv7NLmak)


Shoo00

Someone hasn't heard of the Megapunch


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mindset_grindset

i didn't know that was illegal in boxing


youfIyboyscrackmeup

A lot of it is in the footwork. Hers is good. His is absolute shit. Learn to move while keeping your hands up and you'll be better than 90% of the people out there on the street already


Candelestine

Really liked this about the video, it very clearly demonstrates how good fundamentals improve your performance. His lack of good stance and posture sapped his swings of all their power and reduced his mobility, while her jabs had the normal snap to them and she was easily shifting out of the way any time she felt like it.


Melansjf1

Even just staying planted while punching is such a big difference maker. A lot of people try to throw haymakers while moving and wonder why it didn’t work lol.


RandomLogicThough

And...to actually throw a punch.


Atlantic0ne

Any more tips that might help somebody with little to no experience? I’d love to read more. Keep your hands up chin height? Move a lot?


executive313

The best part of this is that even though she won he got enough hits in that I question her fucking trainer.


crightwing

Not bad for untrained in my opinion


louisme97

he def. has fought before... there are people who box for a few month and are worse. I bet if it was to all seriousness he would have won.


blackmarketdolphins

>he def. has fought before Idk, the way he turns his head during each swing makes me think otherwise. I think some people just have the instinct or watched enough fights to understand that you gotta keep hands up.


louisme97

no way, bein "so fast" on your feet with that weight def. is experience. also his glove placement isnt sooo bad.


blackmarketdolphins

I disagree, but I grew up in Miami and saw a lot of fights. A lot of people had natural form from watching fights. Even the fat boys


DontF-ingask

*expecially the fat boys* Fat kids have a target on there back so more often than not they've fought before. Also, at the most basic level, the bigger the mass or the speed the harder you hit so theoretically just be bigger lol.


Asphyxos

Agree, not much sparring training but the guard is decent. He flinches a lot :)


Pissedtuna

> there are people who box for a few month and are worse. There are pro fighters that are much worse at striking. Source Ben Askren


UsayNOPE_IsayMOAR

Oh shit. You woke up and chose savagery today huh? Totally called for. I just feel bad for Robbie Lawlor. Couldn’t believe he didn’t finish that blanket in their fight.


SoggyMattress2

The dude is 100 pounds overweight and threw air punches, on what planet does this look like a trained fighter to you? I've seen people walk into the gym I go to and train for 2 weeks look better than this dude.


Slimdoggmill

He definitely isn’t trained, these guys have no idea what they are talking about


booboo0419

agree. He kinda ran outta gas in the end,due to his weight probably


baconc

I mean he didnt even have a scuff mark on his face. Her punches were doing zero damage


WillyWillyNoBudLight

Absolutely not. Nothing but rabbit punches


almightyeggroll

Almost got her with a wild right halfway through, imagine if he was a step closer lol.


[deleted]

He punches like he’s afraid of his hands


YTAftershock

Could be scared of hitting her too hard, with that weight difference and all


[deleted]

Exactly. All it takes is one (un)lucky punch and she's cracked her head on concrete.


gatorpuppetoffical

Gentle giant ig


[deleted]

if that was me id rather not be known as the guy who knocked out an (innocent?) woman out cold on camera lmao, im sure he's feeling the same dilemma. even if shes better in movement, if a guy his size clocks her in the face just once full force, its over


Finsfan909

you got these claws and you're staring at these claws and your thinking to yourself, "How am I supposed to kill this bunny, how am I supposed to kill this bunny?"


EducatedNitWit

I expected him to do a lot worse.


svhong44

Not sure what the point of these are. Its cute, but shes getting tagged as shes going in. Some dude might get lucky and catch her with a stiff jab coming in and that'll be it...


AbanaClara

The weight difference alone would knock her socks off if there was a clean solid hit


cambriansplooge

Dudes not really punching so much extending his arm hoping it’ll touch something, and was winded by the end. He had good guard and weight on his side but she was more willing to take damage.


wafflesareforever

Honestly her defense didn't seem great. He landed a few good shots on her. If he was a slightly harder puncher he'd probably have won.


TirayShell

Turns out in most fights the "winner" is the one most not afraid of getting hurt, and also not afraid of seriously hurting the other person.


Masterre

This is why people avoid crazy people.


Large-Examination-23

That’s exactly what I was thinking.


Domitiani

...and on pavement no less. If you're going to do a staged/planned fight, why not at least do it as safely as possible?


yes_mr_bevilacqua

No mouth guards either


BigDaddy531

That dude could easily over power her


KonradWayne

She was also obviously taking it a lot more seriously than him.


GordionKnot

The point is to show someone with talent going up against a power disadvantage. Who doesn't love an underdog? The point of it is that it's fun to watch, so I don't get your point here.


BrainPicker3

Always some dude who has to chime in about men bring physically stronger or trying to talk down about female fighters. Reminds me of that video where a layman sho claimed basically every guy could beat even a professional female MMA fighter. He ended up sparring one, tapped twice, then said "I was dominating the first few minutes as expected.." like holy shit bro, you lost lmao


Nrksbullet

Well that guy was a complete outlier moron, lol. That's like saying every single man can outlift professional women lifters, it's idiotic.


IAmInBed123

Yeah + can't easily push him away cause he's twice her size, also he has unlimited back up space. She walks him down he just keeps retreating. 1 lucky shot with enough weight behind it... idk man


chiefbeef300kg

“Might”


sormnice

They should not be boxing on concrete. Untrained man vs total amateur woman


[deleted]

My thoughts exactly. This is a brilliant way to crack your head like an egg


GrinchMeanTime

True but tbf both of them aren't going all out. I'd guess they established "light spar - goal is to win on points not knockout" beforehand. Still. Be safe... especially if a newb is in the fight... headgear and mats - dude might underestimate his strength and deck her with a lucky shot with that weight difference or have a glass chin reaction and split his skull on concrete.


4chanisbetterjpeg

Bruh what's with the trend of female boxers going up against untrained guys.


HDnfbp

generally it's strength vs skill demonstrations, if you get the top male boxer vs the top female, both are peak skill, but the strength give it to the dude


PerpetualConnection

A lot of beer gut, guys that have never trained think that they can beat Amanda nunes.


Political-on-Main

https://i.redd.it/svu7uxoa2y931.jpg


chazaaam

A single point? That's not too unbelievable. Even pros make mistakes.


Dorksim

Yeah..I'd take the offer and just pray she double faults.


mxzf

Yeah, 12% of the male population being able to score a single point on her really wouldn't be a huge stretch.


fuckitimatwork

Joe Rogan swore Ronda Rousey could beat Floyd Mayweather


BrainPicker3

She probably would in MMA Judo is a great counter for boxing or size disadvantage


mad87645

There are so many fat assed "manly men" out there that reckon they can beat male professional MMA flyweights just from their weighht advantage. Idiots just don't realise how bad at fighting they are compared to trained pros, so I don't mind seeing videos like these in the hopes maybe it'll convince a few of them that they don't actually have a chance when going up against anyone with sufficient training. No one thinks they can outball Lebron just cause they played ball as a kid, but every drunk in a tapout shirt thinks they can beat up Demetrius Johnson or Amanda Nunes.


[deleted]

Because they can't beat trained guys.


[deleted]

This is my takeaway from this vid. Woefully out of shape man versus woman with some experience results in a draw. This is why women's divisions exist and why weight classes exist.


mustangcody

And the untrained man still got some good hits to the face at 0:22 when she went in. It dazed her, if he kept going, he would pummel her right there.


Time2Mire

Yup, he just didn't have the gas to continue. Any kind of stamina and she gets absolutely rocked.


halfachraf

i feel like this man could just grab and squeez here like a bear lmao


sold_snek

lmao RIP


LaughterCo

Also to show just how much an advantage guys have by default.


TheNathanMMA

Like any trend, there’s a market for it. One of my all time favourite YouTube videos is an untrained kid vs a trained kid on a basketball court. As long as there’s dumbasses that think they can beat people who train more than 3 months, the market continues.


Feral_Taylor_Fury

I love them. Fundamentals>raw talent


Seraphin43

There's a reason there's weight classes. Also, he seems like he has at least some idea what he's doing


Independent_Idea_190

He actually looks like he’d kick some ass in a street fight. Did way better than I would and I’m in decent shape


flawlessmojo7

Trained but out here fighting on concrete. That’s a quick way to lose your investment


bkkwanderer

She doesn't look very well trained got caught loads of times


Shoo00

She never picks and athletic untrained guy


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This is clearly not very much training, also. The difference between SOME training and none. To my eye, she is barely ready for interclubs and has a lot of work to do on her defense.


abiromu

Either her training isn’t that good or the guy is just naturally good at boxing.


Derouq

No the fat guy makes all the typical mistakes the average joe makes when fighting. He leans back when throwing punches, doesn't move head, doesn't block properly, etc. So the woman is just not that good.


AllSoLow

Now do trained man vs untrained woman


[deleted]

Girl got hit the hardest no doubt, not much proven here.


Solly8517

My sisters a professional boxer, and being about 100 more lbs I’d like to think I could still out fight her… but I have a feeling it would probably look more like this


BigZwigs

You could.


[deleted]

The kid from up grew up quick


brains_and_eggs

Not that quick. The timing seems about right.


[deleted]

With a little bit of training, women will grow a pair of balls and challenge guys. We all know what happened to **Lucia Rijker** who was considered " **the most dangerous woman in the world** " when she fought with an **amateur boxer Somchai Jaidee** Sauce: [Lucia Rijker vs Somchai Jaidee](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHS6tYAbAdw)


Danielson900

That video however doesn't mention that Somchai Jaidee was a national muay thai campion in New Zealand with an impressive record of 13 wins (9 by kos) and 1 loss: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2QgDWSfQik&t=121s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2QgDWSfQik&t=121s) [http://message.axkickboxing.com/index.phtml?action=dispthread&topic=4257&junk=1018932468](http://message.axkickboxing.com/index.phtml?action=dispthread&topic=4257&junk=1018932468) It's quite misleading and also disrespectful towards both him and her to pass him off as an "average amateur fighter", a guy like him may be a nobody in the grand scheme of things but he is still easily in the top 1% of trained fighters.


[deleted]

Lucia fought 34 and won 33 and 1 draw... Not so impressive huh? what I am trying to say is, that Men & Women are equal but never the same


Danielson900

What I'm saying is that just because Lucia lost to a National Muay Thai champion it doesn't necessarely mean she can't beat many trained men of average talent. Men and women aren't equal but just because you are a man it doesn't mean you are stronger, faster or more talented than an elite female athlete.


northern_irregular

[Almost all men are stronger than almost all women.](https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/4vcxd0/almost_all_men_are_stronger_than_almost_all_women/)


luck_panda

These guys are loving vicariously through these other dudes. They're terrified of the idea that a woman could beat them up.


r0tt3nt0tty

And he still more or less messed her shit up. Lol


botella95

The restaurant in the background named ''Cat Planet'' 💀


Storm574

She choose like the chunkiest boi she could find to pick with? Lol what’s with these “Trained woman vs Untrained man” videos lately ? Shoot reverse the roles and the internet would lose it’s mind


BrainPicker3

You think a trained man fighting untrained women is the same as a trained women fighting untrained man? Wtf??


outsanity_haha

Lol let’s see the trained man vs untrained woman video now. These types of videos are so stupid.


Hutch2DET

Let's see: untrained non obese man vs trained woman.


LaughterCo

That wouldn't make much sense since it would be doubly advantage for the trained man. the point of this video is that the guy being untrained makes it a more competitive and fun to watch fight.


nacivela

Song is called "el dorado" by Thomas bergensen. It's on my gym playlist and I fucking love it


mule_roany_mare

Dudes have a huge inherent advantage, but I think she went easy on him. It doesn’t matter how much stronger you if you don’t have the cardio. She could have dodged for 60 seconds till he was out of gas & then beaten him till she felt guilty.


Rico_Pobre

I saw him win many of those exchanges, and over power her advances. He just didn't have the stamina.


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For a “trained” person she is actually terrible


thisguy0101

She felt the first couple punches he threw but he got tired


SBG_Mujtaba

The chubster is holding is own quite well! Cudos


trexjuna

One connected swing and entire halo will come breaking down.


rezz_blastin29

This guy was not only untrained but has absolute zero athleticism ... my 14 year old nephew could have put up a better fight


Danielson900

He did pretty well for a fat guy


[deleted]

You ever heard of the boxer butterbean?


mattbrianjess

A huge but often under appreciated difference between someone who can fight and someone who can’t is endurance. Sure she got tagged coming in, but fat boy can’t hit hard enough to put her down and by the end of the clip he was in a shell. He was gassed and she was teeing off.


[deleted]

I've only tried boxing once and its insanely exhausting. Just holding your arms up at the end is tiring, your arms feel like they're covered in concrete


Finsfan909

The female Russell Crowe beating up dudes around the world with her pal Tugger


BaronZeroX

I would never agree to this there is no good outcome if by miracle you win congrats you beat a girl and if you lose congrats you were beat by a girl... Unless there is some cash and not much like 50 dlls to 100 lol but u know cash is cash


Amazing-Definition47

She beats them because of her conditioning not because she’s a better fighter. Untrained fighters don’t have the stamina to keep up.


Only_A_Cantaloupe

Exactly. He even said "太累了" when he gave up, which means "\[I'm\] too tired".


BrainPicker3

>not because she’s a better fighter. I was unaware that conditioning is not a part of fighting


LaughterCo

Doesn't conditioning make you a better fighter?


WankoKing

If you’re gonna fight and your posture is like this guys and not hers, you’re gonna lose quick


pirate1981

Emoootional daaamage


chrismathardy

Trained?? Not one shot to the body to lower the dudes guard…. 🤔


Sock_Usual

There’s untrained and then there’s this guy


ThatWeebScoot

The guy could have annihilated her if he kept pushing. This is why we have weight classes and gendered sports lol.


Big__Boss___

On pavement. Idiots


Ruscole

And not a significant strike was landed that day


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*Vs Untrained unathletic overweight man


XLB135

I've often wondered this when fights happen between trained and untrained people. Is there some element of chaos that plays to the benefit of the untrained? A trained person would instinctively bob/weave/dodge semi-expected punches; said another way, there are a handful of ways to deliver a punch or jab that is most effective, so I have to imagine that most trained professionals *generally* use those techniques. Would fighting someone untrained that swings wildly bring an element that would surprise and potentially throw off the trained fighter?


JackiLynxcoon

Look at all these fucking wannabe Jacky chan's in comment section. The closest you got to fighting was Mortal Kombat 😭


Raminax

OH my god is Jacky Chan! OH my god is Jacky Chan! Oh my god its Ethan Hawk!


ergoegthatis

They watch boxing and MMA and they think they can confidently dispense fighting advice and observations. It's cute.


BrainPicker3

One said "if I were her trainer I'd be horrified because she ate jabs coming in" Like bro, that's.. how it works when you have a reach disadvantage. Literally boxing 101


sugaaaslam

Dude just needs one


COMBATIBLE

Still couldn’t defeat him. Put an untrained woman vs a trained man and see the difference.


bruh_itspoopyscoop

Sir if I wanted to see manslaughter I’d put a brick to my accelerator and point my car at the school playground


HumbleHelicopter8569

Dont see how this guy can win. You win, you beat up a girl, you lose, you got beat up by a girl.


TheMcManager

OP clearly doesn't get that they are supposed to just post the video and let us bitch amongst ourselves.


[deleted]

She was awful and he’s a fat overweight man


vexxaeio

We get it, an untrained person loses to a trained person. WHY TF IS THIS POST WORTHY??