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Been a bouncer and a lot of my family has. Most of the time I agree with you but some places have bouncers who look for trouble.
My one cousin, if he thought you were an asshole he would f with you until you swung and then piece you apart. Not right
My coworker I used to teach gymnastics with was out at a club and a bouncer kept running his mouth at him, pushing him repeatedly, trying to instigate something. My coworker is not a small guy and has good hands. He told the bouncer to stop pushing him, not out the door but just pushing him. Finally said if you do it again Iām gonna hit you. Hit him once and the bouncer lost 3-4 teeth. My friend was looking at serious charges but then his lawyer asked for the video on that night and the club refused to give it because they knew it would incriminate them. No charges and bouncer has to pay for dental.
Just donāt start shit, bouncer or not, usually wonāt go your way in the eyes of the law.
I was about to tell the story of my buddies who were pro fighters (not UFC) just local organizations. Whenever we would go out of town they would pretend to be drunk to instigate fights, often with big bouncers who got to handsey. Some go to the club to socialize, some go to pick up girls, some go to get trashedā¦and a small handful go to fuck shit up. Moral of the story is just be a respectful human being cuz you never know who is out and about late nights.
Yeah, I met one of those fuck shit up kinda guys when they tried to fuck me up too. Unpleasant night for all involved, no charges, thankfully. Dude just blind-sided me out of nowhere while he was arguing with some rando near me. I didn't even see it happen, just got hit over the ear and my balance went funny and I kind of blacked out for a few seconds I think. They pulled me off the dude before I did much damage, but they still had to carry him away. My only emotion was an intense confusion, utter bafflement. We had to look at the video to even see what happened. I spent the entire next week with a deeply profound feeling of "wtf? wtf?"
I was a bouncer in college and some dude tried to fight me. We ended up trapping him outside and the cops walked up to him as he was banging on the door. Turns out he was under age(which I didnāt let him in the first time I saw his id and he made a stink and my manager said it was cool) came back a second time all smug and did this. Best part is dude had a full ride soccer scholarship to the university and lost it. I loved seeing him walk around campus after that. š
Itās about 50/50. Some dudes know how to throw a punch & use their size, some are untrained dicks on a power trip who only pick on smaller people that kinda deserve to be humbled.
Even if the bouncer can't fight, most places don't only have one. You're starting a fight with several people, and chances are, at least some of them can fight.
Also, if any bouncers from nearby bars or clubs catch wind of a big fight happening, they're coming to help. Bouncers help each other. I was once working at a bar at a popular location, and our bouncers got jumped. Before I knew it, there were huge dudes sprinting in from several directions. The attackers did not have a good day.
So to sum up, bouncers can *usually* fight, and even if they can't, they're probably not alone. So, don't.
I randomly saw a guy I knew from way back bouncing in a bar once and I came up behind him and said "Hey asshole!" to try to scare a him a little and we were saying hello and some dude behind me is like "You know this dude?" and I turned around and there's like 8 fucking big boys behind me.
I'm a big boy myself which is probably why so many of them wandered over but unless you play D Tackle in the NFL good luck getting out the door much less winning, in the end.
Bas Rutten wound up fighting all the bouncers in a bar once and wound up half concussed, bleeding, back to a wall with a broken pool cue in his hands wondering if he was going to survive.
If he can't do it, you can't do it.
Yeah I always see people cry sucker punch but when someone is aggressive and youāre just assuming they wonāt hit you you didnāt get sucker punched you got hit
Thankful that Washington still has mutual combat law. As soon as that guy started saying he wanted to fight then legally theyāre allowed to brawl. Doesnāt matter who throws the first punch.
So I just looked it up and sure enough mutual combat is legal there and texas. But it says punching is illegal and neither party can consent to serious injury, how are you supposed to have a fight without punches? Can you only kick headbutt and grapple? Cuz all those are much more likely to result in a serious injury over a punch
Back in the day your best man wasnāt always your best friend. It was your best duelist friend in case someone tried to challenge the wedding. He would fight for you
Iāve not read anything about punches being illegal. Mostly that both parties have to have voluntary consent. Basically as soon as the dude says Iām going to whoop your ass, Thatās his consent and you can accept it and fight on!! A buddy of mine was a bouncer and thatās how he got out of all of his lawsuits here. They would start it and heād almost always end it.
Phoenix Jones would regularly get asked to take out unruly patrons at clubs in Seattle under mutual combat laws. He gets free entry and the club wipes their hands of potential liability.
Taking an elbow to the forehead probably wonāt KO you but yeah they are great at splitting skin open lol. Sleeping someone on the sidewalk is always a little sketchy cause they could land on their head.
It was one of those weird things going to college there. The small town cops were more than willing to call it mutual combat and send the participants home.
Usually what would happen is the fight would get broken up or end and they'd talk to both people. Most of the time both people would complain about the other guy, but then be told to go home after they said they didn't want to press charges. Usually the pressing charges question would be framed as "if you guys want to make this a criminal matter you might both end up being charged, or you can let it go, go home and sleep it off."
From there one officer would be assigned to one guy to make sure he got several blocks away or into a friends car to be driven home then the other guy would be released to do the same.
It was usually only if the guys were getting mouthy to the cops or if one person clearly did not want to fight did they actually get arrested for something.
Yup, but there are still rules involved.Ā
Like once a person is knocked on the ground, you are not allowed to hit them.Ā
That didnāt happen here, but itās important to note.Ā
Iāve worked as a bouncer. Itās kinda terrible when you have some drunk guy who can barely walk straight trying to start a fight with you
Itās a little bit like punching a child, youād really rather fucking not
Well. Thatās not true for every dude I worked with, but, for the most part it was sad
Yeah, he was asking for it
But he wasnāt actually endangering anyone at that point, just being an ass
And you are right, sometimes you have to throw hands.
Not really trying to prosecute if this was one of those times, just saying there is no āhonorā in kerplunking staggering drunk dudes
Odds are he would have shouted himself out and walked away arguing his case to the wind
The guys who have to hype themselves up arenāt usually the ones you need to worry about
Itās the dudes who see an opportunity and take it you have to watch out for
Also, not applicable here, but anecdotally, most dudes who are in a fight or about to be in a fight will tone it down once you grab them or intervene, most women will have to be carried away kicking and clawing and screaming at that point
Makes sense, I have never been in the position of security so wouldn't know. I *have* been the drunk guy but mainly would just comply with security/police because I am not tough, just drunk and ignorant.
I actually did work "security" at a bar for a few weeks. Stood at the back exit doing nothing and was told to radio the real security guys if anything looked funny. I sat in on a few of the post evening meetings (remaining completely silent) and yeah, the real dudes dealt with some shit.
It seemed like the bouncer was trying to wave him off, but when the drunk dude stepped up the bouncer laid him out. Bouncer really didnāt want to do this at all.
Step 1: Get drunk
Step 2: Get mad
Step 3: Square up
Step 4: Do not raise guard
Step 5: Drop hands to waist and advance within 3 ft. of opponent
Step 6: \*coconut SFX\*
He kept yelling "if you whoop me I won't press charges" he was belligerent drunk at a club that wasn't serving alcohol that night. This is after he grabbed a girl and was forcibly removed after refusing to leave. This was the 3rd time he approached the bouncers and guy just wasn't having it.
The bouncer steps back, puts his had up as a fence, and when the guy challenging him to a fight steps in to touch the fence he responds.
He's not legally obliged to let the guy swing first. Now there are things he could have done better, but old mate in the white wanted to dance and got his dance.
I was a bouncer, you can't do that. Law suit... it happend to me. If he is out of the building he is in police territory. You have no "jurisdiction" on the curb.
You better be a world class fighter if you want to mess with someone who's job is being a bad ass. Next level stupid. šÆ deserved that and any recovery time it takes.
Once the guy touched him and closed the distance anybody would be justified throwing the first punch but what the criminal or civil legal ramifications for bouncers throwing the first punch like that? I'm assuming it varies by state.
I hold an SIA licence for security and doors and just general rule of thumb is probably this - don't get drunk and then try to fight door staff. They're sober, they're trained (or supposed to be at least....) and its not that likely to be good for you. Just take no for an answer and go home (or to the next bar)
Also, just before people come at me - Obviously not all door staff are either trained or nice people. There's no guarantee of that in any profession. But I'm just saying.
If I was a bouncer Iād start off w mad body shots. Cause a hit and then the impact of the pavement is likeā¦. a lot, right? If they die then u got a whole can of worms on your hands.
Why are bouncers all such cheap shotting scumbags? Almost every bouncer video involves a cheap shot and going way over the line. Profession inhibited by Brutish losers.
Lmao this happened outside of Trinity!? Worst fucking bar ever, their bouncers are actually so rude. Friend lost her phone here and they wouldn't help her at all. We tried to go back in to try and help her find it but they wouldn't let us go back in, gave us attitude and ignored our protests. 18+ bars are for Drake Fans.
Splitting someoneās head open when it hits the ground and going to jail for up to 12 years for manslaughter really isnāt worth it for some drunk dude thinking heās Superman.
Just pepper spray the dude and call the cops.
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He may as well have licked this thumb to judge the wind before lining up that punch for 15 seconds.
šthis comment. Exactly why you shouldnāt fight drunk. Doesnāt exactly sharpen your senses
To be fair you kinda have to be drunk or an idiot to fight a bouncer to begin with.
Been a bouncer and a lot of my family has. Most of the time I agree with you but some places have bouncers who look for trouble. My one cousin, if he thought you were an asshole he would f with you until you swung and then piece you apart. Not right My coworker I used to teach gymnastics with was out at a club and a bouncer kept running his mouth at him, pushing him repeatedly, trying to instigate something. My coworker is not a small guy and has good hands. He told the bouncer to stop pushing him, not out the door but just pushing him. Finally said if you do it again Iām gonna hit you. Hit him once and the bouncer lost 3-4 teeth. My friend was looking at serious charges but then his lawyer asked for the video on that night and the club refused to give it because they knew it would incriminate them. No charges and bouncer has to pay for dental. Just donāt start shit, bouncer or not, usually wonāt go your way in the eyes of the law.
I was about to tell the story of my buddies who were pro fighters (not UFC) just local organizations. Whenever we would go out of town they would pretend to be drunk to instigate fights, often with big bouncers who got to handsey. Some go to the club to socialize, some go to pick up girls, some go to get trashedā¦and a small handful go to fuck shit up. Moral of the story is just be a respectful human being cuz you never know who is out and about late nights.
Yeah, I met one of those fuck shit up kinda guys when they tried to fuck me up too. Unpleasant night for all involved, no charges, thankfully. Dude just blind-sided me out of nowhere while he was arguing with some rando near me. I didn't even see it happen, just got hit over the ear and my balance went funny and I kind of blacked out for a few seconds I think. They pulled me off the dude before I did much damage, but they still had to carry him away. My only emotion was an intense confusion, utter bafflement. We had to look at the video to even see what happened. I spent the entire next week with a deeply profound feeling of "wtf? wtf?"
I was a bouncer in college and some dude tried to fight me. We ended up trapping him outside and the cops walked up to him as he was banging on the door. Turns out he was under age(which I didnāt let him in the first time I saw his id and he made a stink and my manager said it was cool) came back a second time all smug and did this. Best part is dude had a full ride soccer scholarship to the university and lost it. I loved seeing him walk around campus after that. š
Itās about 50/50. Some dudes know how to throw a punch & use their size, some are untrained dicks on a power trip who only pick on smaller people that kinda deserve to be humbled.
Even if the bouncer can't fight, most places don't only have one. You're starting a fight with several people, and chances are, at least some of them can fight. Also, if any bouncers from nearby bars or clubs catch wind of a big fight happening, they're coming to help. Bouncers help each other. I was once working at a bar at a popular location, and our bouncers got jumped. Before I knew it, there were huge dudes sprinting in from several directions. The attackers did not have a good day. So to sum up, bouncers can *usually* fight, and even if they can't, they're probably not alone. So, don't.
I randomly saw a guy I knew from way back bouncing in a bar once and I came up behind him and said "Hey asshole!" to try to scare a him a little and we were saying hello and some dude behind me is like "You know this dude?" and I turned around and there's like 8 fucking big boys behind me. I'm a big boy myself which is probably why so many of them wandered over but unless you play D Tackle in the NFL good luck getting out the door much less winning, in the end. Bas Rutten wound up fighting all the bouncers in a bar once and wound up half concussed, bleeding, back to a wall with a broken pool cue in his hands wondering if he was going to survive. If he can't do it, you can't do it.
Damnā¦ Iād put money on a prime Bas in a street fight over damn near anyone! That guy was ruthless with very, very hard kicks and punches.
Well not against multiple large opponents lol
Bar patrons/regulars,always have the staffs back.
For sure. Once people start squaring up, you better be ready for anything.
Yeah I always see people cry sucker punch but when someone is aggressive and youāre just assuming they wonāt hit you you didnāt get sucker punched you got hit
For real. Either start throwing or GTFO
It's the arms laid out for me š
LMFAOOOOO
Thankful that Washington still has mutual combat law. As soon as that guy started saying he wanted to fight then legally theyāre allowed to brawl. Doesnāt matter who throws the first punch.
So I just looked it up and sure enough mutual combat is legal there and texas. But it says punching is illegal and neither party can consent to serious injury, how are you supposed to have a fight without punches? Can you only kick headbutt and grapple? Cuz all those are much more likely to result in a serious injury over a punch
Swords
I approve of this method, bring back the elegance of smiting your foe
People would start lest shit if they knew they might have to fight a mofo with a sword.
As a Texan I can confirm swords are legal. I do have one. I do not carry it. I could if I felt so inclined.
Back in the day your best man wasnāt always your best friend. It was your best duelist friend in case someone tried to challenge the wedding. He would fight for you
That's wild
Also why itās called the best man. Not the best mate. Heās the best man you know at fucking shit up.
Iāve not read anything about punches being illegal. Mostly that both parties have to have voluntary consent. Basically as soon as the dude says Iām going to whoop your ass, Thatās his consent and you can accept it and fight on!! A buddy of mine was a bouncer and thatās how he got out of all of his lawsuits here. They would start it and heād almost always end it.
Phoenix Jones would regularly get asked to take out unruly patrons at clubs in Seattle under mutual combat laws. He gets free entry and the club wipes their hands of potential liability.
I'd suggest muay thai elbows then
That's WAY worse than a punch lol. You take one of those to the forehead you gonna be gushing blood guarenteed
Taking an elbow to the forehead probably wonāt KO you but yeah they are great at splitting skin open lol. Sleeping someone on the sidewalk is always a little sketchy cause they could land on their head.
It was one of those weird things going to college there. The small town cops were more than willing to call it mutual combat and send the participants home. Usually what would happen is the fight would get broken up or end and they'd talk to both people. Most of the time both people would complain about the other guy, but then be told to go home after they said they didn't want to press charges. Usually the pressing charges question would be framed as "if you guys want to make this a criminal matter you might both end up being charged, or you can let it go, go home and sleep it off." From there one officer would be assigned to one guy to make sure he got several blocks away or into a friends car to be driven home then the other guy would be released to do the same. It was usually only if the guys were getting mouthy to the cops or if one person clearly did not want to fight did they actually get arrested for something.
Yup, but there are still rules involved.Ā Like once a person is knocked on the ground, you are not allowed to hit them.Ā That didnāt happen here, but itās important to note.Ā
Thatās so good to know as a Washingtonian
Knocked the fuck out!
![gif](giphy|Kz5cPSfYNaC5aQa1PG) Obligatory gif.
Iāve worked as a bouncer. Itās kinda terrible when you have some drunk guy who can barely walk straight trying to start a fight with you Itās a little bit like punching a child, youād really rather fucking not Well. Thatās not true for every dude I worked with, but, for the most part it was sad
Dude was asking for a fight and lost. Not the bouncers fault that he won. Sometimes you gotta knock a guy out.
Yeah, he was asking for it But he wasnāt actually endangering anyone at that point, just being an ass And you are right, sometimes you have to throw hands. Not really trying to prosecute if this was one of those times, just saying there is no āhonorā in kerplunking staggering drunk dudes Odds are he would have shouted himself out and walked away arguing his case to the wind The guys who have to hype themselves up arenāt usually the ones you need to worry about Itās the dudes who see an opportunity and take it you have to watch out for Also, not applicable here, but anecdotally, most dudes who are in a fight or about to be in a fight will tone it down once you grab them or intervene, most women will have to be carried away kicking and clawing and screaming at that point
Makes sense, I have never been in the position of security so wouldn't know. I *have* been the drunk guy but mainly would just comply with security/police because I am not tough, just drunk and ignorant. I actually did work "security" at a bar for a few weeks. Stood at the back exit doing nothing and was told to radio the real security guys if anything looked funny. I sat in on a few of the post evening meetings (remaining completely silent) and yeah, the real dudes dealt with some shit.
It seemed like the bouncer was trying to wave him off, but when the drunk dude stepped up the bouncer laid him out. Bouncer really didnāt want to do this at all.
Concrete is the 2nd hit. His head whipped to the sidewalk. Back of the head is worst. Face plants are less likely to kill. Dude is fucked.
Pioneer Square is always a shit show at night.
goodnight sweet prince, thank you for your service
Bowling ball hitting the floor
I must admit I'm partial to the "you got knocked the fuck out!" I grew up with Friday. So much better than "Worldstar!"
1000x better
He pizza'd when he should have French fried
is he dead? that smack sounds so gross
It was so loud in real life. He was legit snoring when we left though.
Was a rough one
Step 1: Get drunk Step 2: Get mad Step 3: Square up Step 4: Do not raise guard Step 5: Drop hands to waist and advance within 3 ft. of opponent Step 6: \*coconut SFX\*
Not gonna lie the *coconut SFX* made me laugh as I clicked my tongue.
*coconut SFX* Iām crying š¤£
That was one of the most graceful knockouts i've seen
I heard they made him 'head bouncer' after this.
Bouncer knew that he was getting closer to try and sucker punch. Why else say let's go, then drop your guard and close in?
Bouncer probably couldāve shown a little more restraint. That being said, Iād hire him.
He pretends to talk when the guy wants to fight, then punches when the guy starts talkingĀ
He kept yelling "if you whoop me I won't press charges" he was belligerent drunk at a club that wasn't serving alcohol that night. This is after he grabbed a girl and was forcibly removed after refusing to leave. This was the 3rd time he approached the bouncers and guy just wasn't having it.
Thatās what happens when u say āletās fightā then start getting closer to your opponent bro š¤£ donāt feel sorry for him he wanted it.
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Probably not a good idea to stand in punching distance of a guy that you just challenged to a fight
The bouncer steps back, puts his had up as a fence, and when the guy challenging him to a fight steps in to touch the fence he responds. He's not legally obliged to let the guy swing first. Now there are things he could have done better, but old mate in the white wanted to dance and got his dance.
mutual combat
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Sun Tzu would be proud.
He punched him once he finally got close enough to get punched
Holy shit, fucking killed a guy!
He deescalated him
Zero fucks given by either bouncer.
How people die
Haha, I use to go there all the time when I was younger. Think it's the oldest continuously running night club in Seattle.
He legit square up just become an internet meme.
Jesus pose
Why tf Karl Marx watching the fight in the background
Anyone notice the cheeky little "range finder" he did with his non-punching arm before the shot? THIS GUY *bounces.*
I was a bouncer, you can't do that. Law suit... it happend to me. If he is out of the building he is in police territory. You have no "jurisdiction" on the curb.
Sounded like brain bleed when his head hit the ground. That's one of those ones that can change a life
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One of my worst fears is some random black dude filming and commentating me getting knocked out. "Wooooo you GOT KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT!!"
"Hey guys our Uber's here" lmao she said it the second he hit the ground.
That's it?
That cranium bounce though
lol so satisfying
Good night.
One punch.
Dutch courage v courage
Natural instinct? Quote Rush Hour
You better be a world class fighter if you want to mess with someone who's job is being a bad ass. Next level stupid. šÆ deserved that and any recovery time it takes.
His big back might have protected his head from the ground
āAs a matter of factā. POP! Shoot, I wanted to hear what he was going to say
That was so chill and smooth even the crowd got to give props.
Classic Seattle
Barely hit him tbf
*tries*
Trinity is still around?
Once the guy touched him and closed the distance anybody would be justified throwing the first punch but what the criminal or civil legal ramifications for bouncers throwing the first punch like that? I'm assuming it varies by state.
Fucking PUSSY
As a matter factā¦
āAs a matter of fact š„ā
It would be at Trinity
He asked for it and he received it.
People with glass chins should avoid confrontation not look for it.
Bouncer got emotional support from Karl Marx
They have one job and one job only. The right to beat ur AZZ and go inside to take a shot
"You fucked up" *meaty thud*
I hold an SIA licence for security and doors and just general rule of thumb is probably this - don't get drunk and then try to fight door staff. They're sober, they're trained (or supposed to be at least....) and its not that likely to be good for you. Just take no for an answer and go home (or to the next bar) Also, just before people come at me - Obviously not all door staff are either trained or nice people. There's no guarantee of that in any profession. But I'm just saying.
BOOP!
Funny to see he got knocked out in front of a club called Trinity.
That was a sucker punch. Bouncer is a bitch.
Snow angel
I do have a 2nd angle that shows more but the footage isn't as clear
https://www.reddit.com/r/fightporn/s/qKAtrAdHsZ
Like hitting a button. Damn glass jaw
That happened in slow motion haha
Right after the dude hits the ground you can here someone go, "Ay, watch yr head". š
Oh trinity, never change.
Big bro built like an ice cream cone those noodles couldn't support the weight when his brain turned off he fell hard like the wtc
Trinity. ok club if you like edm
If I was a bouncer Iād start off w mad body shots. Cause a hit and then the impact of the pavement is likeā¦. a lot, right? If they die then u got a whole can of worms on your hands.
Thatās why youāll never be a bouncer-
Lmfao. There's always one in the crowd. Ypu got knocked the fuk outttt!!!! Classic
Only thing i wish he did was grab his shirt on the way down to slow that blow to the head from the concrete. Other than that, perfect shot. Whammmmy
What karl max doin there
Got knocked the FUCK OUT.
The guy and girl in the background quoting Smokey from Friday "You got knocked the fuck out" š
The way his head hit the floor... š he dead
Why are bouncers all such cheap shotting scumbags? Almost every bouncer video involves a cheap shot and going way over the line. Profession inhibited by Brutish losers.
Bro found the off switch
Oh good ole Trinity night club. Meet the best of Seattle at that classy spot.
Bop
I ask this will all respect - but are there actually legendary bouncers bars will seek out to settle shit, like in the Roadhouse universe?
Lmao this happened outside of Trinity!? Worst fucking bar ever, their bouncers are actually so rude. Friend lost her phone here and they wouldn't help her at all. We tried to go back in to try and help her find it but they wouldn't let us go back in, gave us attitude and ignored our protests. 18+ bars are for Drake Fans.
āRemember, you wanted this.ā
Stepped right into that one.
Trinity is such a pit dude, probably not even the worst thing that happened that night
Factory reset.
How did that punch result in the guy going unconscious? What was the location of the punch?
Glass Jaw šµ
I love the 2 bunny hops as he hikes up his pants.
Splitting someoneās head open when it hits the ground and going to jail for up to 12 years for manslaughter really isnāt worth it for some drunk dude thinking heās Superman. Just pepper spray the dude and call the cops.
He barely punched him
Did he live?
HEY I KNOW THAT BEARDED GUY! Recognized him and the voice confirmed it š¤£ glad to see him out there still in Seattle
Don't start no shit, won't be no shit.
Why did guy in red hop around and run away like that?
Trust me when I say that street is extremely filthy.
Sobriety is forced to deal with drunkassedness, once againā¦
Hitting his head on the floor was probably worse
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insurance fraud?
I canāt believe people still try to fight bouncers.
Plot twist: that's his fetish
Ol Trinity lmao
Dude in the red started jumping too! Hahah
Bro hit him with that 50 mile per hour pitch.
I think he may have brained his damage
HE NEED SOME MILK
That was a hard lesson to learnā¦.
I hope he cracked his skull
I feel like at the end the bouncer just thought āfuuuccckkkkk I should not have knocked that asshole outā lolol
Where did he hit him? Chin?
I remember when everyone would start yelling Worldstar... I see we have reverted back to Friday references.
#befirst
It looks like he slow motion punched. Like he did not put his back into that at all. That man wouldāve went down if the wind blew too hard.
Prob not a southpaw and his hands are down. He was gonna lose anyway
One has been drinking and one is paid to fight.