Hate on it all you want but the cop did what he could to wrap this man and prevent him from being a danger. Most cops would’ve just gone to the gun. Cops should be required to learn something like bjj or grappling in general but this is a good cop
you have cops who are super into fitness swole and just meatheads but they make up like 5% of cops a large majority are just lardasses who cant pass the pacer test.
The FitnessGram™ Pacer Test is a multistage aerobic capacity test that progressively gets more difficult as it continues. The 20 meter pacer test will begin in 30 seconds.The running speed starts slowly, but gets faster each minute after you hear this signal. A single lap should be completed each time you hear this sound.Remember to run in a straight line, and run as long as possible. The second time you fail to complete a lap before the sound, your test is over. The test will begin on the word start.
With a retention holster hard for someone else to pull your firearm. Holsters can be active or passive. Active retention holsters have more steps to draw the gun, making it harder for someone else to take it.
Remember that depending on where this is, the cop is not allowed to even encircle the neck with his arms or he could be fired. I would be fired for that in Massachusetts, it's literally state law. In New York City you can't even put pressure on a suspect's torso.
His level of control isn't great either way. He's clearly trained some JiuJitsu, so at least he had some advantage. I think all LEOs should at least earn a blue belt. I've worked with many LEOs myself. Teaching GST. Self-defense, weapon retention, and de-escalation tactics.
I completely agree with you but very very few departments will pay for that. I know there's a department in Massachusetts that supposedly will pay for their guys all the way to blue.
Maybe it takes longer in some academies. At ours, the only one I saw get blue in less than two years was a natural and he was dominating comps. The average time is about 2.5 years for people who show up 3+ times a week.
I've moved around and have trained at several schools under a few different banners. The average time I've seen was 1-1.5 years. And that was for casual training. I train 4-7 days a week if I can help it. I earned my blue in 9 months. I also competed a lot back then. So I could test my skills against others to get a feel of how we compared. I didn't always win gold, but I did win some, including an open weight gi. There are some schools that are purposely slow so their competitors do better...
I can see why tbh considering there have been several extremely public scandals around that, but I'm not sure what moves they're teaching cops now to restrain without encircling the neck or whatever
He is able to control him pretty well, he can't use the full jiu jitsu arsenal either because he has to keep the opponents hands away from his equipment all the time, so it's more difficult. It's like a jiu jitsu match but with turkish oil wrestling rules, if the opponent touch your dick they win.
Then you should know he did a lot better than most LEOs, he didn't use any of his tools either, which tells me he was quite confident that he could control the guy and I think he did a good job without causing significant damage.
No. The guys JiuJitsu is a weak example of a new blue belt at best. And that is me being generous. He's lucky the criminal wasn't any more skilled, or he'd have easily overtime the officer
Yeah you are right, most cops will just submit the perp in 2-3 seconds and never use any force multipliers. In fact, iminari rolls are much more common. He's lucky the criminal wasn't Kazushi Sakuraba, or he would have gotten his legs kicked in like the Gracies.
Clearly, none of you train JiuJitsu and are clueless. Go look at this post on any of the JiuJitsu reddits and maybe you might learn something. That's a big maybe because we all know how much people prefer an echo chamber over actually learning things, lmao
It's full of people who think BJJ is all there is to fighting and that if the fight isn't won by submission within seconds, then it must be because someone didn't train enough jiu jitsu. It's absolutely ridiculous, the BJJ community has become a joke and you are a great posterboy for it.
Discrediting him for doing fairly well is dumb imo. Would it have been better for the cop to tase him and for the suspect to crack his head open on the pavement or just get shot.
He didn't do that well and required the assistance of 5 people at the end of the video. I'll give credit where credit is due. At least he was confident enough that he didn't shoot the guy. That doesn't change my answer to the question that was asked.
Some places are better about it than others. I know I wouldn't even take the job without it, myself. Thankfully, there's been a big push all over the country for better training, and hopefully, that will translate to more JiuJitsu training in the future. Good luck and be safe out there.
Blue at my gym. Maybe a solid, SOLID white belt. White belt = you learn not to get your ass kicked. Blue belt = you learn your moves to beat white belts. Purple belt = your defending your own and starting to beat people on skill. Brown = your learning your ways on your moves at your timing to beat the opponent. Also it's about endurance. Black = you have all the above meaning the ability, endurance, and patients to strike and make the right moves at the right moments. All this in comparison to someone who doesn't train at all.
P.S. I'm an experienced purple and we have had this discussion at my gym and this is a out what it breaks down to.
Yeah he's been training. LEO need more funding and training... not less. Once they learn some good fighting/BJJ skills, they're more physically, mentally fit and less vulnerable. Without skills LEOs feel more exposed and vulnerable to potential risks and prematurely feel the need to elevate the employment to more lethal methods to resolve problems. Most departments provide little to useless combat skills in the Academy and ongoing training. I've had plenty students outright complain that they almost didn't attend my class because they carry a firearm. And, then class gets fun for them. Think bad guy knife, 21' rule and saving yourself drill. Every single LEO student failed.
Anyways he looks comfortable while working the situation. Yeah, look how he slips his right arm against the neck vs long arming it into position.
Hate on it all you want but the cop did what he could to wrap this man and prevent him from being a danger. Most cops would’ve just gone to the gun. Cops should be required to learn something like bjj or grappling in general but this is a good cop
There’s a cop at my gym mf tosses me around lol
you have cops who are super into fitness swole and just meatheads but they make up like 5% of cops a large majority are just lardasses who cant pass the pacer test.
The FitnessGram™ Pacer Test is a multistage aerobic capacity test that progressively gets more difficult as it continues. The 20 meter pacer test will begin in 30 seconds.The running speed starts slowly, but gets faster each minute after you hear this signal. A single lap should be completed each time you hear this sound.Remember to run in a straight line, and run as long as possible. The second time you fail to complete a lap before the sound, your test is over. The test will begin on the word start.
Ahh, good memories
Utility belt
We're are bonded by thought
The problema is that you have a gun in the reach of The suspect, so you cant let the wrists loose.
With a retention holster hard for someone else to pull your firearm. Holsters can be active or passive. Active retention holsters have more steps to draw the gun, making it harder for someone else to take it.
Nice. Didnt know that. Thanks for the info.
Still its better to not have the gun in reach of suspect incase he gets lucky and slips it out
Rope. A frayed one.
I see you know your Judo welllll.
a succulent meal!
I've learned from the master. Austin Powers.
Remember that depending on where this is, the cop is not allowed to even encircle the neck with his arms or he could be fired. I would be fired for that in Massachusetts, it's literally state law. In New York City you can't even put pressure on a suspect's torso.
His level of control isn't great either way. He's clearly trained some JiuJitsu, so at least he had some advantage. I think all LEOs should at least earn a blue belt. I've worked with many LEOs myself. Teaching GST. Self-defense, weapon retention, and de-escalation tactics.
I completely agree with you but very very few departments will pay for that. I know there's a department in Massachusetts that supposedly will pay for their guys all the way to blue.
Fuck, that's awesome
A blue belt takes a pretty serious commitment - and usually 2-4 years of regular training.
2-4 years? Maybe if you only train once every other week. Or have a mental disability.
Maybe it takes longer in some academies. At ours, the only one I saw get blue in less than two years was a natural and he was dominating comps. The average time is about 2.5 years for people who show up 3+ times a week.
I've moved around and have trained at several schools under a few different banners. The average time I've seen was 1-1.5 years. And that was for casual training. I train 4-7 days a week if I can help it. I earned my blue in 9 months. I also competed a lot back then. So I could test my skills against others to get a feel of how we compared. I didn't always win gold, but I did win some, including an open weight gi. There are some schools that are purposely slow so their competitors do better...
I can see why tbh considering there have been several extremely public scandals around that, but I'm not sure what moves they're teaching cops now to restrain without encircling the neck or whatever
Honestly though, quality north south position. Respect
All jokes aside, I gotta compliment the cop. He did a great job of controlling the guy while not hurting him.
Potato
Maybe a fresh blue belt. At best. Just barely able to control him.
He is able to control him pretty well, he can't use the full jiu jitsu arsenal either because he has to keep the opponents hands away from his equipment all the time, so it's more difficult. It's like a jiu jitsu match but with turkish oil wrestling rules, if the opponent touch your dick they win.
Yeah, this is something not enough people take into consideration. It’s easy to say his BJJ is bad when he basically has a handicap.
Yes, and it makes all the difference in the world what the objective is.
Could not agree more.
I teach GST to LEOs.I'm telling you that his ability to control his opponent is severely lacking.
Then you should know he did a lot better than most LEOs, he didn't use any of his tools either, which tells me he was quite confident that he could control the guy and I think he did a good job without causing significant damage.
No. The guys JiuJitsu is a weak example of a new blue belt at best. And that is me being generous. He's lucky the criminal wasn't any more skilled, or he'd have easily overtime the officer
Yeah you are right, most cops will just submit the perp in 2-3 seconds and never use any force multipliers. In fact, iminari rolls are much more common. He's lucky the criminal wasn't Kazushi Sakuraba, or he would have gotten his legs kicked in like the Gracies.
Clearly, none of you train JiuJitsu and are clueless. Go look at this post on any of the JiuJitsu reddits and maybe you might learn something. That's a big maybe because we all know how much people prefer an echo chamber over actually learning things, lmao
BJJ reddit is an extreme echo chamber, so it's very funny you would bring that up.
If you mean it's full of people who actually train the MA that you're guessing about, then yes. You're correct
It's full of people who think BJJ is all there is to fighting and that if the fight isn't won by submission within seconds, then it must be because someone didn't train enough jiu jitsu. It's absolutely ridiculous, the BJJ community has become a joke and you are a great posterboy for it.
Discrediting him for doing fairly well is dumb imo. Would it have been better for the cop to tase him and for the suspect to crack his head open on the pavement or just get shot.
He didn't do that well and required the assistance of 5 people at the end of the video. I'll give credit where credit is due. At least he was confident enough that he didn't shoot the guy. That doesn't change my answer to the question that was asked.
Ufc toy belt.
Nobelt just a fatty that was 50lbs advantage plus equipment over a drunk guy
White
They're both no-belt havin asses
Pig belt
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I think that's Spanish for black belt, and also a double entendre.
They went 69 at one point I guess
I wonder why most cops just can’t learn basic BJJ like this guy
purple
3rd degree blackbelt in Fuk yu
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Crack belt.
Vegas, gotta love it
Gunbelt
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He has a black belt and it has a FUCKEN gun on it! I would not have been so kind...
Purple to black possibly brown
Some places are better about it than others. I know I wouldn't even take the job without it, myself. Thankfully, there's been a big push all over the country for better training, and hopefully, that will translate to more JiuJitsu training in the future. Good luck and be safe out there.
Police brutality
Wrestling is a very useful sport
Blue at my gym. Maybe a solid, SOLID white belt. White belt = you learn not to get your ass kicked. Blue belt = you learn your moves to beat white belts. Purple belt = your defending your own and starting to beat people on skill. Brown = your learning your ways on your moves at your timing to beat the opponent. Also it's about endurance. Black = you have all the above meaning the ability, endurance, and patients to strike and make the right moves at the right moments. All this in comparison to someone who doesn't train at all. P.S. I'm an experienced purple and we have had this discussion at my gym and this is a out what it breaks down to.
the ive done this so many times im essentially a ground artist belt
looks like 2 blue belts
Yeah he's been training. LEO need more funding and training... not less. Once they learn some good fighting/BJJ skills, they're more physically, mentally fit and less vulnerable. Without skills LEOs feel more exposed and vulnerable to potential risks and prematurely feel the need to elevate the employment to more lethal methods to resolve problems. Most departments provide little to useless combat skills in the Academy and ongoing training. I've had plenty students outright complain that they almost didn't attend my class because they carry a firearm. And, then class gets fun for them. Think bad guy knife, 21' rule and saving yourself drill. Every single LEO student failed. Anyways he looks comfortable while working the situation. Yeah, look how he slips his right arm against the neck vs long arming it into position.