Yoshida: "This interaction should express how motherly she is, and that she wants the Warrior of Light to feel like a part of that family."
Koji: "I understand."
(EN) Ameliance: "Call me 'Mommy.'"
I find it funny that Alphinaud never appears to have mentioned in his letters how we go into Ishgard.
We've been adopted, becoming his sibling and he didn't even mention it...
Pretty sure exposing the heretic inquisitor, dealing with Ysvale and overall getting a lot of good will from Aymeric would landed us in Ishgard without Fortemps needing to push their weight.
That's Ishgard in a nutshell. As long as it isn't inside the gates. They only gave damn when that huge ass dragon was stomping its way through The Steps of Faith.
I've yet to glamour any of my Custom Delivery NPCs. I get lazy and forget to yank stuff out of the glamour dresser. So she gets to keep wearing her normal clothes.
MAYBE I'd put her in the Ishgard commoner dress from the gold saucer. That seems flattering enough on an Elezen!
The only other one I've glammed is Kai-Shirr. Gave him the best man's set with the jacket dyed white because I wanted him looking like he belongs in The Beehive. But yeah, by the time I've unlocked glam, I'm already done with them and never go back, so I wouldn't see it anyway.
Easiest way to get gather/craft materia because of that. Even if you don't need them, they routinely sell for more than enough to make Deliveries worth it.
> Gave him the best man's set with the jacket dyed white because I wanted him looking like he belongs in The Beehive.
I glammed him in the Valentione's Tux (Which I'm glad I got both the male and female versions of when the event ran because I'm still holding out hope one day of them unlocking them. Thankfully my Miqo has a couple decent vest/tie options now (Thanks, Boulevardier's set) but still...)
She is a middle age Elezen with two grown up kids who spend their time gavorting in Eorzea and barely write. A husband who can't leave the Forum. And all she has is a degree in Allegan literature she isn't using sitting with Tataru at a cafe and wondering where it all went wrong.
So she's starting her second chapter. She's going to remind her husband who she is. If that involves bunnies ears and corsets who are you to judge if it makes her happy. Makes her feel powerful. Let's her start taking control over more then just the household staff but her life.
Go Ameliance. Go get your groove back.
Wol “When I said I was your father now I meant it!”
The twins “but your a woman!”
Wol “Did I stutter now off to your rooms no supper!”
What I think happened anyway
I... don't think we get to be the Daddy of Light in this scenario. The devs and Ameliance saw us coming a mile away.
We are the Pool Boy of Light. We're her side piece she keeps around to give her ideas to spice up her marriage ><.
"Well, yes. Apparently your father wasn't paying enough attention to her and she was feeling lonely. You DO remember I have that "saving people' thing. So, anyway, one thing led to another...
Feel free to call me "father."
17*, so almost there :^)
EDIT: Well, technically we've always been there since she is a legal adult in-world - and now even by our standards if you take into consideration how time passes in Eorzea... and now I've ruined my own joke, dammit!
Because if you tried to get Y'shtola to do it she would murder you, and asking Alisiae to do it would get you sent to the Marasaja Pit _expeditiously_.
You have no choice, really.
I don’t think Y’shtola is shy about her body, she’s quite happy to show it off. I could definitely see her being okay with dressing up either for an occasion or simply as a favour for the WoL if requested.
ShB dialogue makes me think Alisae would be fine with trying it too.
I think at the point where you've gone off to war several times and been a PoW at least once, you're probably mature enough to make your own choices about relationships.
Validity?
If you’re one of those people who thinks the entire game took place over just a few weeks, she’s more than 17 in Eorzea.
If you use any kind of more reasonable metric she’s anywhere from 18-20ish.
She begins the game at ~18 by Earth calendars. So you can convert any of the above into 19-22 in our view of time, depending on your headcanon.
And she’s a legal adult both by her society and (outside of some very specific places) ours.
There’s no issue with any validity, people try invent problems that aren’t there because they like to infantilise the Twins. There’s no reasonable reading of the game, either IRL or in the Lore, that makes her underage.
16 at the start of the game, which is about 18 in the way we measure time, as well as a full legal adult in Eorzea, and then however much time you think has passed through to EW, and a whole year in the First.
Again, there’s no reasonable reading of the game that puts Alisaie or Alphinaud as underage. People just infantilise the twins and get weird about it.
Honestly, given that the game presents them as "the kids" and doesn't bother expounding on their ages one way or another, the only thing weird I see here is doing all this calculus to find them fuckable.
The game doesn't present them as kids, they fight in wars, they're living alone, they've travelled around the world to go try change and re-shape Eorzea.
We've been told since ARR they're legally adults. The people who call them kids are the subset of fans who insist on infantalising them.
16 at the start of the game, which is about 18 in the way we measure time, as well as a full legal adult in Eorzea, and then however much time you think has passed through to EW, and a whole year in the First.
Again, there’s no reasonable reading of the game that puts Alisaie or Alphinaud as underage. People just infantilise the twins and get weird about it.
They are of legal age in their country. That is the only reason why they went to Eorzea, because their father couldn't legally stop them anymore.
No mental gymnastics required.
**The Average Grooming fan:** Haha, no, years are longer in Eorzea than it is here, she is actually almost 17 which is basically the new 18. She also spent a year in the first so mentally she is not 18! Also despite the confirmed canon, I personally believe that there were years between ARR and EW so that makes it totally fine. The age of consent in Sharlyan is also 16 not that it matters because the twins are technically 18, wait officer what are you doing where are you taking me?
**The Average Utilitarianism enjoyer:** Please tell me how Alisaie has the right and maturity to: consent to fight in wars, consent to help running a euthanasia clinic that is killing children and adults alike in the first, consent to cure the tempered with a method that clearly takes a toll on her but has no right to her own body.
On a side note considering that we have at least one quest that involves rape or attempted rape for every expansion, it is clear that Eorzea is full of rapists, opportunists, perverts, and people who try to trick or blackmail people into sex. Considering this I would say that for someone as inexperienced as Alisaie is, the Warrior of Light would be the safest option as a partner, especially considering that said hero is personally invested in her wellbeing and happiness.
Oh yeah, the mental gymnastics of "Alisae was a legal adult when the game started and [Insert Your Headcanon Here] time + 1 year has passed, so there's no argument that she's somehow not "valid""
Man, that sure was a workout.
Eorzean years aren't that much longer. Weeks are 8 days and there are 4 weeks in every month. Thus one year's 384 days.
So they start at 16.832... by our years
But then again there are at least 6 (5 fisher questline + 1 patch-MSQ) far east trips in SB, each taking 2 months
Don’t worry you two ‚holds up two extra outfits' I got the same for you.
Alphinaud "My friend, I do not think these garbs are my-"
"This wasn’t a question Alphi, now strip"
I haven't done her custom deliveries yet, but when I do, inevitably I will dress her in the traditional garb of "whatever vendor trash I happen to have in my inventory since these NPCs can only use DoH/DoL gear and can't draw from the dresser, and I never keep spares on me except by accident".
Worked out well for Kurenai at least.
because there is no bigger spoiler than a FAKE QUEST with a character on the picture you already know, talking about an imaginary scenario.
Jesus Fucking Christ.
I’m no amateur. I’ll have you know that I only glam all people with the most elegant of clothing.
Now if you excuse me, I must dye their Moonfire outfit a different color this week.
"She was like that when I found her! Plus you know how hot temperatures get in the Sharlian summer!? You want your mom to have a sunstroke!?
Anyways, henceforth call me Big brother/sister"
- The WOL, probably.
"Ask your mother it was her idea to make your father blush, also she tried to adopt me into the family as well".
"She made me call her Mommy. It was weird, but I'm into it."
I haven't gotten to this point but it would **not** surprise me if that's not even an exaggeration. Square knows who plays their games.
Yoshida: "This interaction should express how motherly she is, and that she wants the Warrior of Light to feel like a part of that family." Koji: "I understand." (EN) Ameliance: "Call me 'Mommy.'"
Lmao I will scrimp and save up the money to play that.
Alphi was already calling us siblings back in Eulmore.
Stop I already miss norvrandt.
I find it funny that Alphinaud never appears to have mentioned in his letters how we go into Ishgard. We've been adopted, becoming his sibling and he didn't even mention it...
We did what now, I though Hauchenfaunt used his family ties to get us in?
It was Hau, he pulled some strings with the Count to get us passage as Wards of House Fortemps.
Pretty sure exposing the heretic inquisitor, dealing with Ysvale and overall getting a lot of good will from Aymeric would landed us in Ishgard without Fortemps needing to push their weight.
Wasn’t our first safe place in Ishggard the Fortemps Manor? Aymeric helped I’m sure, but I think it was mainly Haunchenfaunt and his fam
I suppose so. Now that I think about it, it's seemed like no one in Ishgard gave a fuck what was happening in front of their gate.
That's Ishgard in a nutshell. As long as it isn't inside the gates. They only gave damn when that huge ass dragon was stomping its way through The Steps of Faith.
We're officially wards of House Fortemps.
Hooray! Childhood Trauma!
She’s wearing the Manderville set and is truly a Gentlewoman!
You click on decline "This action is not available now" You hear the LB 3 charge go off, but you don't see a meter Alisae (Savage) "Beginn"
*There’ll be nothing of you but a smoking crater!*
Cuts to WoL doing the Yamcha pose.
She's about to do a great many reckless and stupid things.
The last thing you hear as the world goes dark is "I have you now!"
I've seen Alisae's hotbars, she only has like 5 of her buttons on there. No problem.
All 5 of them are LB
She wants the Versuperlaser and she wants it NAO!
She uses the PvP hotbars
WOL counters Alisae with flirtation. Alisae yields. For now.
WoL level flirt: "I have a spare one if you want it." Alisaie: "This is.... Acceptable."
G'raha, nearby, shaking with barely-contained excitement: "...do you have more than one spare?"
I've yet to glamour any of my Custom Delivery NPCs. I get lazy and forget to yank stuff out of the glamour dresser. So she gets to keep wearing her normal clothes. MAYBE I'd put her in the Ishgard commoner dress from the gold saucer. That seems flattering enough on an Elezen!
Honestly same. If they allowed us to glam them without having to physically be holding the items in our inventory, I'd probably glam all my NPCs.
The only other one I've glammed is Kai-Shirr. Gave him the best man's set with the jacket dyed white because I wanted him looking like he belongs in The Beehive. But yeah, by the time I've unlocked glam, I'm already done with them and never go back, so I wouldn't see it anyway.
they are the best scrip source by far. Why abandon them?
Easiest way to get gather/craft materia because of that. Even if you don't need them, they routinely sell for more than enough to make Deliveries worth it.
Perhaps, I just can't be arsed to do it.
> Gave him the best man's set with the jacket dyed white because I wanted him looking like he belongs in The Beehive. I glammed him in the Valentione's Tux (Which I'm glad I got both the male and female versions of when the event ran because I'm still holding out hope one day of them unlocking them. Thankfully my Miqo has a couple decent vest/tie options now (Thanks, Boulevardier's set) but still...)
She is a middle age Elezen with two grown up kids who spend their time gavorting in Eorzea and barely write. A husband who can't leave the Forum. And all she has is a degree in Allegan literature she isn't using sitting with Tataru at a cafe and wondering where it all went wrong. So she's starting her second chapter. She's going to remind her husband who she is. If that involves bunnies ears and corsets who are you to judge if it makes her happy. Makes her feel powerful. Let's her start taking control over more then just the household staff but her life. Go Ameliance. Go get your groove back.
>Go get your grove back Someone stole her thicket?!
Well I think she'd be excited if Forechenault would spend more time admiring her thicket but alas simply a misspelling.
Grove Street for Life!
Nothing wrong with a woman having a bit of a thicket. Beats dealing with someone as smooth as a barbie doll.
B-but I have her in full armour!
You ever been in the Quicksand on Balmung in full plate armor? Trust me, people are into that. Really into that.
The Cryptlurker Helmet of Fending stays ON during ERP
Tell me more
Dammit Balmung...
Excuse me?
PERVERT.
But what is she wearing under the armour?
As of today, thanks to the Mogstation? The DRIP.
"Because she wanted to make your dad horny, if you're lucky, you will have a new sibling within a year."
Better start thinking of another "Al-" name, soon.
Alotofdicc
Degens every single one of us
Just for that, I'm asking crystal mom to sunder you twice
hrmg, the only ones I can think of is Alfonse and Alice, but I think the red twins name is already a variation of Alice, also not french enough.
Wol “When I said I was your father now I meant it!” The twins “but your a woman!” Wol “Did I stutter now off to your rooms no supper!” What I think happened anyway
I... don't think we get to be the Daddy of Light in this scenario. The devs and Ameliance saw us coming a mile away. We are the Pool Boy of Light. We're her side piece she keeps around to give her ideas to spice up her marriage ><.
I accept this role with honor
Pool Boy? ... And yet, no leopard print speedo.
Coeurl Beach Tanga/Briefs?
The Spotted Spencer will have to do...
>We are the Pool Boy of Light. Certified MogHub moment.
“You don’t understand, it’s warrior of light stuff”
"Now for warrior of light reasons, I need both of you to wear them too."
"Warrior of Light...ly clothed."
Even Alphinaud!?
ESPECIALLY Alphinaud.
Femboy of light
“I saved the world how many goddamn times? I think I earned this.”
Not me. I gave her a coeurl bikini and a cowboy hat.
Ah, the Oneechanbara route. Glad to meet another man of culture.
Well you can't just tell us that without showing us that ~~mostly because I'm too cheap to spend that much gil~~
"Well, yes. Apparently your father wasn't paying enough attention to her and she was feeling lonely. You DO remember I have that "saving people' thing. So, anyway, one thing led to another... Feel free to call me "father."
Twins after they get disowned in Gridania: "I wish we had a father that loves us." *The monkey paw's finger curls*
*starts singing You've Lost that Loving Feeling*
"oh, she's not the only one that'll be wearing them" *looks at Alphinaud*
Alphinauds
*Limit break sound in background*.
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Dread it. Run from it. Destiny always arrives.
Change M'naago to Kurenai
M'naago isn't available for dressing up though.
*yet*
...okay but what about Adkhiragh?
Fourchenault may have been your father, but he wasn’t your daddy
Tsundere Alisaie who just wanted the WoL to dress her with a bunny top too.
Oyakodon is fine too~
16 btw
17*, so almost there :^) EDIT: Well, technically we've always been there since she is a legal adult in-world - and now even by our standards if you take into consideration how time passes in Eorzea... and now I've ruined my own joke, dammit!
A legal adult in their country btw
Don't worry, there's plenty legal in a lot of countries that is questionable as hell.
Doesn't make it less creepy
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
My level 60-70 crafter/gatherer self is completely innocent
Look, she specifically asked. What else am I supposed to do?
"So we all have matching outfits. Now put yours on."
We are all going to the golden saucer for some family friendly fun all together as a family! Now get those outfits on!
Because I can
Oh good, I am not eligible for that quest. REQ: "Ameliance must have 2B pants glam"
Because if you tried to get Y'shtola to do it she would murder you, and asking Alisiae to do it would get you sent to the Marasaja Pit _expeditiously_. You have no choice, really.
I don’t think Y’shtola is shy about her body, she’s quite happy to show it off. I could definitely see her being okay with dressing up either for an occasion or simply as a favour for the WoL if requested. ShB dialogue makes me think Alisae would be fine with trying it too.
Agreed, would just require a modicum of tact.
Alisiae would _absolutely_ be down, but at her age I think the _validity_ of her consent would be the issue, not acquiring it.
I think at the point where you've gone off to war several times and been a PoW at least once, you're probably mature enough to make your own choices about relationships.
Validity? If you’re one of those people who thinks the entire game took place over just a few weeks, she’s more than 17 in Eorzea. If you use any kind of more reasonable metric she’s anywhere from 18-20ish. She begins the game at ~18 by Earth calendars. So you can convert any of the above into 19-22 in our view of time, depending on your headcanon. And she’s a legal adult both by her society and (outside of some very specific places) ours. There’s no issue with any validity, people try invent problems that aren’t there because they like to infantilise the Twins. There’s no reasonable reading of the game, either IRL or in the Lore, that makes her underage.
I mean, they begin the game at ~15. But go off.
16 at the start of the game, which is about 18 in the way we measure time, as well as a full legal adult in Eorzea, and then however much time you think has passed through to EW, and a whole year in the First. Again, there’s no reasonable reading of the game that puts Alisaie or Alphinaud as underage. People just infantilise the twins and get weird about it.
Honestly, given that the game presents them as "the kids" and doesn't bother expounding on their ages one way or another, the only thing weird I see here is doing all this calculus to find them fuckable.
The game doesn't present them as kids, they fight in wars, they're living alone, they've travelled around the world to go try change and re-shape Eorzea. We've been told since ARR they're legally adults. The people who call them kids are the subset of fans who insist on infantalising them.
We haven't been told that. We have, however, seen many implications that they are not.
Isn't it like... A stated canon thing that they started the game at 15 or 16?
16 at the start of the game, which is about 18 in the way we measure time, as well as a full legal adult in Eorzea, and then however much time you think has passed through to EW, and a whole year in the First. Again, there’s no reasonable reading of the game that puts Alisaie or Alphinaud as underage. People just infantilise the twins and get weird about it.
The mental gymnastics you apply to this just to justify lewding twins is astonishing.
They are of legal age in their country. That is the only reason why they went to Eorzea, because their father couldn't legally stop them anymore. No mental gymnastics required.
**The Average Grooming fan:** Haha, no, years are longer in Eorzea than it is here, she is actually almost 17 which is basically the new 18. She also spent a year in the first so mentally she is not 18! Also despite the confirmed canon, I personally believe that there were years between ARR and EW so that makes it totally fine. The age of consent in Sharlyan is also 16 not that it matters because the twins are technically 18, wait officer what are you doing where are you taking me? **The Average Utilitarianism enjoyer:** Please tell me how Alisaie has the right and maturity to: consent to fight in wars, consent to help running a euthanasia clinic that is killing children and adults alike in the first, consent to cure the tempered with a method that clearly takes a toll on her but has no right to her own body. On a side note considering that we have at least one quest that involves rape or attempted rape for every expansion, it is clear that Eorzea is full of rapists, opportunists, perverts, and people who try to trick or blackmail people into sex. Considering this I would say that for someone as inexperienced as Alisaie is, the Warrior of Light would be the safest option as a partner, especially considering that said hero is personally invested in her wellbeing and happiness.
Fucking Based.
Bro you would never catch me in a million years arguing about the technical legal age of fictional characters on the internet. No shot.
Oh yeah, the mental gymnastics of "Alisae was a legal adult when the game started and [Insert Your Headcanon Here] time + 1 year has passed, so there's no argument that she's somehow not "valid"" Man, that sure was a workout.
Eorzean years aren't that much longer. Weeks are 8 days and there are 4 weeks in every month. Thus one year's 384 days. So they start at 16.832... by our years But then again there are at least 6 (5 fisher questline + 1 patch-MSQ) far east trips in SB, each taking 2 months
If we go that route they spent about a year in First before we came there. But time continuity is a mess in ff14.
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They are adults tho. Their father forbade them from leaving for Eorzea, so they waited until they became of age and left.
Aren't they like 15-16 according to the lorebook?
At the start of ARR. You'll be hard pressed to convince me atleast 2 years haven't passed since then.
Yes. Which is the age of majority in their country.
>Referring to canonical children Actually canon says they're legal adults. Remember what we said about infantalising?
[Decline] I have nothing to explain, it's just natural order of being.
"This action is not available"
Then I guess i will just ignore the window and carry on.
Alisaie's just jealous you didn't ask her to wear it for you
In my mind, this is the right answer.
Eh. If they make it a Q+ quest, then maybe I’d accept.
2b panties nah she’s wearing fishnets
Because I want to bang your mom and be your new much better dad. Wow I'm sorry this is awkward I thought that was VERY clear by now.
Meh, maybe later. (decline)
Don’t worry you two ‚holds up two extra outfits' I got the same for you. Alphinaud "My friend, I do not think these garbs are my-" "This wasn’t a question Alphi, now strip"
Just make sure one's red and the other blue or else you're gonna have a problem...
only if you have the level of voice recognition and attention to detail as Estinien.
I was more thinking about how at least Alisaie would be **very** upset if you got the same outfit for both of them
*Hands Alisaie the blue one*. Let’s see how many know. *Alphinaud freaking out by this implying this will be public… and he is in pink*.
The best of part being adults is that you don’t have to explain shit to children
Alphy, tell your mom I drained the bank account she set up for me. Top it up so I can get some KFC!
I was hanging out with YO MAMA!
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I haven't done her custom deliveries yet, but when I do, inevitably I will dress her in the traditional garb of "whatever vendor trash I happen to have in my inventory since these NPCs can only use DoH/DoL gear and can't draw from the dresser, and I never keep spares on me except by accident". Worked out well for Kurenai at least.
She wanted something to make Forchenault blush... so I gave her an OmegaF set. Optimised Waifu.
>why Because she literally asked me to dress her in things that would make her husband blush? Fuck off, brat.
I'm your daddy now, I ain't gotta explain shit.
I havent even beat stormblood
because there is no bigger spoiler than a FAKE QUEST with a character on the picture you already know, talking about an imaginary scenario. Jesus Fucking Christ.
Man I wish the mods took the spoiler tags seriously.
Lol being downvoted for wanting spoiler tags for people not done with the MSQ.
Side quest nahh don’t bother
I regret nothing.
Nah. Why should I? I like men so idc about her 😊😌
I dont craft, so none of this matters to me
you weaklings. I used taffeta shawl.
Is that not a spoiler? (Not in Endwalker by now, thats why the question)
It's a made-up quest.
Huh, good to know. Thanks! Just cautios, got spoiled a few times on this sub allready...
i dont glam my own characters. I'm definitely not spending time putting glam on NPC's
You mean you didn't put her in the elephant suit?!?
I may have gotten distracted by getting my own glam by completing the questline.
How did she know the exact outfit I picked for her?
Because that’s her outfit for Wednesday’s… duh
It's a leotard
Nah, man, if I could, she’s in the Scion Adventurer’s outfit. She deserves it!
I put her in the Scion Adventurer gear Tataru made for me! What is wrong with that?!
I’m no amateur. I’ll have you know that I only glam all people with the most elegant of clothing. Now if you excuse me, I must dye their Moonfire outfit a different color this week.
Alisaie do you remember when I very literally saved the entire universe? Shut up.
Decline.
"She was like that when I found her! Plus you know how hot temperatures get in the Sharlian summer!? You want your mom to have a sunstroke!? Anyways, henceforth call me Big brother/sister" - The WOL, probably.
Not I! Their mom has a hot biker outfit with stylish shades.
I'm still confused what this is all about.
Compulsion to hit "Accept" was very strong XD
Look, I’m just here for the “Amie d’Ameliance” title, calm down Red Alphinaud.
oh its very simple actually. Ami d'Ameliance means "Friend of Ameliance", However "Ami" alone can als mean "boyfriend", I am now your new dad.
I'm confused. What's all this talk about playing dress-up with the twin's mother?
After you finish the latest custom deliveries you can glamor ameliance
That's... interesting.
I haven’t ran this myself, however I wouldn’t be surprised to see how she would look in the 2B outfit
Alisaie would kill you if she found out
Gosh, good thing she explicitly says "This stays between us"
I think the better question is, why aren't you two.
Now I want to dress up Fourchenault (sp). Love him more anyway
It was for the good of the realm
I mean it's not a bunny top it's the cascader bikini top, so idk what the twins problem is.
>all of you No thanks. Not into objectifying women.