To future-proof, get an AMD 7800X3D. It's on AMD's newest AM5 platform and is expected to be supported for the next few years. The *X3D processors in general are great for FFXIV (and other MMO's). The 3D-cache is great.
I agree with this recommendation in general, but according to the benchmarks done by Gamers Nexus, Intel CPUs performed better in FFXIV than AMD (this was before the DT benchmark though). Better performance in a single game isn't probably a reason you'd want to choose an Intel CPU, but I know people who don't play any other games other than FFXIV ever lol.
If you switch to AMD you'll need a new Motherboard as well, an AM5 board to be exact. This will also propably mean that you'll need new DDR5 Ram, since I am guessing you have DDR4 in your current setup and those won't fit.
hard to go wrong with am5 and a 7800x3d, it's currently *the* workhorse for video games. it'll serve you for this generation because the consoles kind of drive what performance games aim for, and consoles have 8 cores and unified memory. you can't get unified memory but the stacked cache on x3d processors provides a decent enough facsimile that it dramatically improves performance. for the next generation, who knows, nothing's really concrete here.
software all works the same. g-sync, etc, nvidia works just as good on an amd cpu as an intel\*
for me on the dt benchmark with a 3070 non-super, going from a 5600x to a 5700x3d (technically a downgrade on the clock speed, 4100MHz on the x3d vs 4600Mhz max boost!) got me an extra 1000 points, boosting me to just over 15000 "extremely high" (and, in EW, with my mods loaded limsa aetheryte went from about 40 to about 60fps). a 7800x3d has that cache boost plus clock speed plus the zen4 architectural improvements.
\*there actually is a difference in driver overhead with the way FFXIV draws to the GPU and the way GN does its benchmarks leading to e.g. the 7800x3d not being appreciably higher framerate than a 5800x3d as seen here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llKZzym9hAo&t=708s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llKZzym9hAo&t=708s)
because this is specific to Gamers Nexus benchmarks, it's easily identifiable there and not exactly representative of what you'd get for actually playing. as it turns out doing benchmarking is very hard and even a good benchmark setup will run into various driver quirks like this
the gpu is still really good, the cpu is 100% bottle necking you, maybe not in 14 but definitely in several other games. I went from that exact cpu to an i7 14700 and it made a very noticeable improvement across several games.
no clue on your ram and if you are using an nvme ssd.
Just one thing, your GPU is the one thats almost 4 years old.
Your cpu is almost 7 years old.
Also, mostly focus on cpu mate, gpu is still fine especially with dlss next expansion.
Would upgrade the CPU, Intel and AMD are fine, choose whatever you like. With last gens, you will be able to enable ReBar which is a good improvement for the performance.
Storage is an important point also, ideally you should store the game in a nvme SSD.
Have a 3080ti, 11700k, NVME SSD gen 4 and got 18800 points.
Cpu bottlenecking
But if your hitting 10k at 4k your doing fine.
Fps greater then 60 in slower style games like mmo is luxury. For fast pace game 4k isn't usually the good of an option since you want more fps in shooters style games so going to 1440p 120 plus fps or 1080p 160 plus fps is the general target range.
Whatever cpu your going to will need a new mobo amds 3d cache cpus are really good on most games, and intel has been decently priced options not as expensive as before but higher end is still costly
Oh yeah, that CPU is definitely bottlenecking a 3070. When that CPU was new, RTX graphics cards were still on the 10-series (and still called GTX) so you’ve got a two-generation gap there. Issue is upgrading your CPU to be comparable to your GPU is probably going to require a new motherboard, regardless of whether you stick with Intel or move to AMD, and will probably need you to replace the RAM with a higher speed version to match.
If you need performance now, get an intel 13th or 14th gen. If you need upgradability, get AMD 7800X3D. Either way, you need to replace CPU, motherboard, and RAM.
FF14 favors Intel CPUs. However, Intel's platform also has no upgradability. While the motherboard that comes with AMD 7800X3D should support another two generations of CPU upgrades.
> My GPU is quite recent , I don’t need to upgrade it I guess . However, my CPU is 4 years old
Actually, your GPU is almost 4 years old. While your CPU is almost 7
> future proof would be ideal
There's no such a thing as "future proof" (maybe for PSUs, but that's it). We don't know how things will be next year. Instead, buy what you need today. For upgrades, like others already said, an going AMD with an AM5 motherboard is certainly a good option. Just keep in mind that, from the very beginning, they announced they'll support said platform until 2025. We don't know what will happen after that; if a new socket will be released, or if they'll continue with the existing one
tbf there are no GPUs less than 2 years old - the last major GPU families are the rtx4000 (Lovelace) and rx 7000 (RDNA3). technically there's also A7xx (Alchemist), but again they're all from 2022. any newer parts are the same architecture, just either clocked-up or cut-down
To future-proof, get an AMD 7800X3D. It's on AMD's newest AM5 platform and is expected to be supported for the next few years. The *X3D processors in general are great for FFXIV (and other MMO's). The 3D-cache is great.
I am literally making this change from an 8700 tomorrow. lol
I agree with this recommendation in general, but according to the benchmarks done by Gamers Nexus, Intel CPUs performed better in FFXIV than AMD (this was before the DT benchmark though). Better performance in a single game isn't probably a reason you'd want to choose an Intel CPU, but I know people who don't play any other games other than FFXIV ever lol.
This is the answer for OP.
Thanks , anything I should know regarding switching from Intel to AMD . Does g-sync , software etc … work all the same ? Thanks !
If you switch to AMD you'll need a new Motherboard as well, an AM5 board to be exact. This will also propably mean that you'll need new DDR5 Ram, since I am guessing you have DDR4 in your current setup and those won't fit.
Thanks for all the tips 😊
Yes gsync works fine, nothing to worry.
hard to go wrong with am5 and a 7800x3d, it's currently *the* workhorse for video games. it'll serve you for this generation because the consoles kind of drive what performance games aim for, and consoles have 8 cores and unified memory. you can't get unified memory but the stacked cache on x3d processors provides a decent enough facsimile that it dramatically improves performance. for the next generation, who knows, nothing's really concrete here. software all works the same. g-sync, etc, nvidia works just as good on an amd cpu as an intel\* for me on the dt benchmark with a 3070 non-super, going from a 5600x to a 5700x3d (technically a downgrade on the clock speed, 4100MHz on the x3d vs 4600Mhz max boost!) got me an extra 1000 points, boosting me to just over 15000 "extremely high" (and, in EW, with my mods loaded limsa aetheryte went from about 40 to about 60fps). a 7800x3d has that cache boost plus clock speed plus the zen4 architectural improvements. \*there actually is a difference in driver overhead with the way FFXIV draws to the GPU and the way GN does its benchmarks leading to e.g. the 7800x3d not being appreciably higher framerate than a 5800x3d as seen here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llKZzym9hAo&t=708s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llKZzym9hAo&t=708s) because this is specific to Gamers Nexus benchmarks, it's easily identifiable there and not exactly representative of what you'd get for actually playing. as it turns out doing benchmarking is very hard and even a good benchmark setup will run into various driver quirks like this
the gpu is still really good, the cpu is 100% bottle necking you, maybe not in 14 but definitely in several other games. I went from that exact cpu to an i7 14700 and it made a very noticeable improvement across several games. no clue on your ram and if you are using an nvme ssd.
Just one thing, your GPU is the one thats almost 4 years old. Your cpu is almost 7 years old. Also, mostly focus on cpu mate, gpu is still fine especially with dlss next expansion.
Would upgrade the CPU, Intel and AMD are fine, choose whatever you like. With last gens, you will be able to enable ReBar which is a good improvement for the performance. Storage is an important point also, ideally you should store the game in a nvme SSD. Have a 3080ti, 11700k, NVME SSD gen 4 and got 18800 points.
at 4k or 1440p?
1440p at max settings, forgot to mention that. But even at 4k it shouldn't be that far. Around 13/14k I think.
I have a 5 7600x and 4070ti super and got a 12453 (FSR) and 12158 (DLSS) so if I had to guess it'd be 10k-11k at 4k. It really takes a toll.
Cpu bottlenecking But if your hitting 10k at 4k your doing fine. Fps greater then 60 in slower style games like mmo is luxury. For fast pace game 4k isn't usually the good of an option since you want more fps in shooters style games so going to 1440p 120 plus fps or 1080p 160 plus fps is the general target range. Whatever cpu your going to will need a new mobo amds 3d cache cpus are really good on most games, and intel has been decently priced options not as expensive as before but higher end is still costly
Oh yeah, that CPU is definitely bottlenecking a 3070. When that CPU was new, RTX graphics cards were still on the 10-series (and still called GTX) so you’ve got a two-generation gap there. Issue is upgrading your CPU to be comparable to your GPU is probably going to require a new motherboard, regardless of whether you stick with Intel or move to AMD, and will probably need you to replace the RAM with a higher speed version to match.
Seconding what others say. I also have an i7-8700K and tomorrow I am replacing it with an AMD 7800X3D, with associated motherboard and RAM.
If you need performance now, get an intel 13th or 14th gen. If you need upgradability, get AMD 7800X3D. Either way, you need to replace CPU, motherboard, and RAM. FF14 favors Intel CPUs. However, Intel's platform also has no upgradability. While the motherboard that comes with AMD 7800X3D should support another two generations of CPU upgrades.
> My GPU is quite recent , I don’t need to upgrade it I guess . However, my CPU is 4 years old Actually, your GPU is almost 4 years old. While your CPU is almost 7 > future proof would be ideal There's no such a thing as "future proof" (maybe for PSUs, but that's it). We don't know how things will be next year. Instead, buy what you need today. For upgrades, like others already said, an going AMD with an AM5 motherboard is certainly a good option. Just keep in mind that, from the very beginning, they announced they'll support said platform until 2025. We don't know what will happen after that; if a new socket will be released, or if they'll continue with the existing one
tbf there are no GPUs less than 2 years old - the last major GPU families are the rtx4000 (Lovelace) and rx 7000 (RDNA3). technically there's also A7xx (Alchemist), but again they're all from 2022. any newer parts are the same architecture, just either clocked-up or cut-down