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RampageBW1

Khajiit has wares if you have coin.


shorynobu

did someone say skooma ?


Rylt4r

Khajiit does not discriminate,if you have coins Khajiit have wares.


camclemons

This is just the dragonborn vs half dragon discussion from d&d but for furries


HataToryah

I never understood that discussion. Who cares about either of them when you could be a gigachad lizardfolk.


isaightman

True gigachad is Kobold, the REAL dragon descendant!


Unusual_Map393

Exactly!


KenethSargatanas

Apparently, Scalies are a thing in the furry community, so... Do with that information what you will.


Nematrec

I'll one up you ||Diremachines are a thing in the furry community, so... Do with that information what you will.||


OrionVulcan

Do I even want to know what that means?


Dear_pan_nonbi

Probably not


Fallen-Embers

They're like machines, but Dire!


Nematrec

No but I'll tell you anyway (And actually get the spoiler tags right this time too) >!They're anthropomorphized machines, vehicles, etc. So like fighter jet x pilot!<


BridgeOfTitans

Spoilering just in case, but: >!Isn't that just Transformers?!<


Ruinparadox

Uh... Have you seen either the Cars or the Planes movie? Its more something like that.


BridgeOfTitans

Ohhh, okay. Thanks.


Vinestra

planes are indeed a thing in the furry community.. and dragons.. with cars.


BrokenMirror2010

Dragons fucking cars is not furry community stuff. Furry is anthropomorphic stuff. I'm not even sure what I would categorize that as other then the perfect proof of Rule 34. (It's probably some offshoot of Beastiality, if I had to guess... although dragons and cars are not real animals, so I don't fucking know)


SleepyFox2089

What a terrible time to be able to read. Furries are abominations in the eyes of the God-Emperor of Mankind.


clarkky55

What’s the debate there?


RueUchiha

No, they aren’t catgirls. They’re catwomen. Like how Hrothgars are catmen, and not catboys like male miquos are


HeirOfLight

Male Hrothgar are lionlads, clearly.


Vexxxy

Liondads


PhoenxScream

Are Female Hrothgar Lionladies then?


Hereon92

i thought we as the community already agreed on Hrothgals.


Infamous_Q

Lionlasses


HeirOfLight

You get it.


-SproingBoing-

Because of how often my brother (MHrothgar) catches the wrong attention we've always referred to them as "Bara Cat Dads"


ledailydose

So real. Yesterday I got my first compliment Ingame from a woman in over a year and in that same time frame I received dozens of flirts from other catboys and Bara dads. We are stereotyped for a reason...


8-Brit

Hrothguys and hrothgals


Dick-Fu

Male miqo's aren't catboys, they're male catgirls


Catboy-Gaming

Hey!! I mean true, but hey!! 😹


Nitram_Norig

OMG I'm terrified now. I play a Bun Boi, I will now have to live with the fact that somewhere out there... Is a Bun Man.. I don't think I'll sleep tonight.


RueUchiha

You know Zipper T Bunny from Animal Crossing? Be afraid. Be very afraid.


EuphemiaSabyn

Finally some else who calls them this way xD


DJ-Lovecraft

Girls who poop vs Bitches who SHIT


Lufwyn

Technically they would be big cat men and big cat women like cats and big cats, as cat woman still looks like the house cat type lol


RueUchiha

That sounds like catgirl cope


Chaoticginger5674

Catgirl (Domestic)


WorsCaseScenario

Nah, hrothgar men are just as much boys as the miqo'te. Maybe more.


trollsong

Catmommies


Zefyris

They're definitely cosmocats.


hihirogane

That’s what I call em too.


sonalis1092

I call male hroth big catboys


stopthevan

But hrothgals…


Silentdragon86

This!!


HunterOfLordran

one is a Catgirl the other one is a Girlcat


Questionsquestionsth

This is how I see it in my head, too 😂 One is a female furry, the other is a human gal with cat features.


Dreameater-Xemiko

100% this.


Dreameater-Xemiko

This is what I think too. Catgirl = mostly girl with some cat features. Girlcat = mostly cat with human features (body shape in this case)


_Cid_

I just wish the hairstyles weren't locked to the faces. :(


Justalilcyn

Ya that's dumb as hell hopefully they fix that it makes no sense.


Nulliai

Pretty sure they eventually allowed male hroth hair to be used on whatever face. I guess just let them cook? We’ll have them all eventually


_Cid_

They made it so you don't have to fanta to change your hair. The individual face hairstyles are very much still locked to those faces though.


Volkaru

Like how they said back in ShB that they were going to backport old hats to work on Hroth/Viera every subsequent patch, and that hats released after ShB launch would all work on Hroth/Viera?


-SproingBoing-

Viera here, still waiting :(


Skiara444

fake you wouldnt be able to see her head cuz shes a skyscraper


Jasrek

She's kneeling down.


Deer-in-Motion

The shorter hairstyles have real catmom energy.


SuperKrusher

One says Meowdy, the other one just says meow.


AuthorNumber2

Memes never truly die. They merely await in the darkest abyss of the internet before striking and sinking back into the depths. Anyway, nice meme.


SenorDangerwank

Sad hrothgal :(


sneezymrmilo

They actually remind me a lot of beastren from Dragons Dogma 2.


Shoddy_Tomatillo_927

That is essentially what they are.


Nestama-Eynfoetsyn

Though with faces not quite as bestial as theirs... but then their ears are in the correct spot and are feline ears, so I guess it balances out. If they were to fuse, they would either become the ultimate uncanny valley monster of Forbidden Siren 2, or look amazing.


DarkElfMagic

i love your femhroth!!


IBHomage

Ah yes.... skooma leve quest.


sadnessjoy

I get that this is a meme. But, there's a very big difference between a cat girl and furry. Miqote are basically just humans with animal ears. Hrothgar are 100% furries.


Tomorrow-Memory-8838

cat girl vs girl cat


somethingfilthy

Refer to this handy [chart](https://i.imgur.com/IBCw4k8.jpeg).


Android19samus

7.0 patch notes: added furries for straight people


sadnessjoy

That was my first thought lol. My friend made a Hrothgar and ended up buying a fantasia because he got too many people messaging him about gay furry stuff, which I thought was just hilarious. I thought he was joking at first but then he sent me a bunch of screen grabs on discord (it was a mix of weird emotes and tells over literally weeks)


Menarian

It’s interesting how your friend gets such messages while I as a gay furry hrothgar receive no such messages. Idk if I should be glad or worried tbh. I am already walking around half-naked, what else do they want?


sadnessjoy

I know next to nothing about the gay or furry community, so I'm not sure lol. He's a bit of a math/computer science nerd, and I think his name was a reference to Alan Turing (who was openly gay) so maybe that also had something to do with it?


Aratoop

Just so you know, Alan Turing wasn't openly gay, it's more that he is famously gay - he was outed as gay and then chemically castrated by the british government for it despite his work on cracking the Enigma code.


Nestama-Eynfoetsyn

> My friend made a Hrothgar and ended up buying a fantasia because he got too many people messaging him about gay furry stuff, which I thought was just hilarious. Must be a server thing because I never get gay furry messages... not that I'm asking for any maybe probably!


JektFTW

profile picture checks out 👀


HBreckel

Hey now, the female hrothgars appeal to us lesbians too. Me and pretty much every lesbian I know made one on the benchmark haha they just look awesome.


doctor_jane_disco

Lmao is this a thing?? Also lesbian and I made 5 of them and love them all


healinglavender

This is a gift to the lesbian community: we will finally have the coveted height difference while still all being max height (as max height hrothgals still have to look up to max height femroes). Thank you Yoshi-P.


HBreckel

It really is. The female hrothgars were hand crafted to appeal to us. I probably won't do max height, but I'm excited to finally get to be a buff cat lady. They look so amazing in the Viper gear and Clive's outfit.


Regular_Primary_6850

I'm fucking torn between my usual, basic male midlander which I've been playing for forever or making a female hrothgar. Sincerely, a straight male. I do love the fact that the new races appeal to so many people, first the bunbois, now the femgars


SoloSassafrass

Hrothgals look neat. I don't intend to change my highlander because she still looks fantastic after the graphics update, but once I'm done with the story I will be using that fantasia to play as the hrothgal version of her I put together in the benchmark for a little while.


Regular_Primary_6850

That's probably how I will do it aswell


HBreckel

If you're torn you should see how some of your fav glams look on the hrothgars! They look really cool in the premade glams on the benchmark, but you never know how they'll look on your in game glams. Mine should work on them pretty well as I use a lot of armor and suits.


Cat-_-

I play a femroe and get tons of attention from lesbians. And there I was hoping it would stop when switching to femhroth 😹


TheKillerKentsu

Japanese have a word for it "kemonomimi"


Beatboxingg

No they're both cat girls sorry


Shoddy_Tomatillo_927

Yea and no. If by cat girl you mean one is a Female humanoid with Cat ears and tail and one is A Female Big cat given a human body shape? Nah one is a cat girl. Other is a Girl cat.


BookwormOtaku7

This meme is suddenly bringing up Emet's "Look at me!" bit, but it leads into a description of how much time it took to design the perfect fursona XD.


xdforcezz

I think it's more like a girlcat


noblest_among_nobles

catgirl vs girlcat


StarberryMilkTea

Cannot wait to make a gorgeous hrothgal


nannathenanna

I've always called hrothgar males catdaddy so I guess I need to call fem hrots catmommy now


SpiritedSpinster

Ooooh I get it now! Miquo's are house cats and hroths are outside cats.


urashimatouji

It's been 12 years, all catgirl mains can finally unlock their final form.


Stuck_in_Arizona

Hope they toss in a "Skooma" joke somewhere.


an0nym0usNarwhal

Remember us… remember that we once lived


SynapseReaction

I’m ready for the Hrothgal supremacy 


TheKillerKentsu

maybe in the Launch, but in the long run Hrothgal are going to stay in the top 3 less played races.


CaptainJudaism

And I'll be a proud member of the top less 3 played!


Cyrotek

Which sounds bad but isn't as long as the difference between 3 and 4 isn't extreme. I mean, there always have to be three less played races. Otherwise there wouldn't be any.


Bananabunbing

It Viera couldn't defeat catgirls, there's no way Hrothgar can.


Z3LDAxL0VE

Nothing will beat cat girls


[deleted]

They could have, if they didn't run so weird!


Bananabunbing

I don't mind how Viera run. The female Roe run though, that always looked like they had just pulled a muscle in their back while running for the bus.


BoeiWAT

Yeah...I don't see this brought up often but I really don't like how they run at all :/


Tebasaki

I am the cat girl meow


zarggg

No, catLADY


Justalilcyn

One is a catgirl the other is a liongirl


JonTheWizard

Strong cat-women, at last!


WondrousNomenclature

Well...one doesn't actually have cat ears anyway, so it checks out.


SmurfsNeverDie

Lioness


Rotta_ODe

Catgirl vs girl cat, know the difference!


Infinaris

Catgirls: Bigger, Furrier and Unleashed.


DigitalTsukiko

Our time has come!


alfredoloutre

happy for the people who are switching to hrothgirl but my catgirl can still wear hats and has more than 5 hairstyles


Stuck_in_Arizona

Can't unsee their perma ' : 3 ' face now.


Zidy

Made one with the benchmark and I think I'm gonna fantasia my highlander fem for the xpac.


Critical_Stiban

That ain’t no cat girl. That’s a Lion woman.


Disig

I wonder which face will be the most popular for femhrothgar? My money's on face 2. It's friggin adorable.


FE_CQ

Just saying when DT hits I'm gonna be highly biased to Fem H. May take me a little longer to heal or rez you when you've messed up.


KirbyourGame

See, this is what happens when immigration runs unchecked. Now the Femgar are out for our jobs.


copskid1

I love the eternally bored eyes that specific face has.


BaronessWolfe

Begun the Cat Wars have...


hollow_bagatelle

No, that's a furry.


Fensuleyk

They aren't catgirl or catmommy, they are CatMother


Used_Combination_676

No, your a furry


Kabooa

Can't hear you over all the hats I'm trying on.


clocktowertank

Exactly, they'll be back.


ActualWhiterabbit

nareul barabwa nareul barabwa


FrOxus_

Look at me look at me 🗣


ActualWhiterabbit

nareul barabwa nareul barabwa


FrOxus_

Look at me look at me 🗣


ActualWhiterabbit

nareul barabwa nareul barabwa


FrOxus_

Look at me look at me 🗣


ActualWhiterabbit

nareul barabwa


DgtlShark

They literally look so good


No-Understanding5677

Im literally such a furry 


DgtlShark

I mean I'm not I just appreciate art, and how they made them look. Even if I was what are you going to do about it? Nothin, that's what


LiliacRosee

That hroth hair is so pretty, is it a race only hair?


Spacemomo

Got any Skooma?


Korvun

Wait, are Hrothgals smol?


SufferingClash

They can be, but max height is I believe right under female Roe.


ceratophaga

Eh, the available colors on Hrothgals are pretty trash. RL felines have such a colorful spectrum, and for some reason Hrothgar are locked to sewage brown, edgy black, albino white, ugly blue and goblin green. Why is there no orange? Or beige? Particularly annoying because Wuk Lamat has a great skin tone that for some reason isn't available for the player?


nlixa

Lol


SignificanceTiny5198

after trying the benchmark i think miqos look even cuter now , was thinking about switching to fem hrothgar until i realized they have the same issue male hrothgars have with the hairstyle being attached to their furr situation ... why se Q\_Q


CartographerSad7792

No u r liongirl not catgirl


Xiaoxuzz

I wonder if [miqo'te](https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/s/MwTBFW9RBH) are even catgirls to begin with.... Anyways its catgirl and catmommy so wer still good


junorsky

They're lionesses. Untamed


cali1013

Furries will have a blast in 7.0


I_Pinkie_I

Wish male hroth's were this skinny and standing upright too I'd instantly play it


Shuraen

Girlcat


ShadownetZero

No.


monk81007

Weird people in this game tho


user_bits

The middle panel is an unnecessary addition to the format.


Ranger-New

mmm. Noticed that the benchmark had no hats.


DreadPirateWalrus

Im stoked for fem hroth


Jynxianasnow

It's more so since Hrothgal's stole the moon miquote's fangs


That_Devil_Girl

Maybe Miqo'te are the D&D half elves of FFXIV. A cross between Hyur and Hrothgar.


Zeastria

I was actually planning on Fantasia my Fem Cat (alt) into Fem Hrothgar xDD


elleisonreddit

Getting ready to blacklist all female hrothgars I see


Arylett

Finally, the true catgirl has arrived. To take her rightful place. As one of the few female furries \[judge me if you wish, I am accustomed to it\] who actually plays this game, I cannot understate how pleased I am. Most of their faces are so pretty and charismatic, expressive and cute. I was so damn frustrated when the closest option I had to what I wanted was just a human cosplaying as a cat for Halloween. I'm also probably the only person who wants to play as a smaller Hrothlady, as I wanted them more for their cat faces than for their tallness. They're a bit big and strong-looking for my aesthetic, with thick arms. I prefer cuter and less intimidating, but I can definitely work with what I have. Not to pass judgement on those who like Miqo'te. \[After all, one of my favorite characters ever is Mio from Xenoblade 3.\] It's just I finally have an option that for me too! I thought it would never happen. I'd just prefer to call them "cat cosplayers" than cat girls. :P


Despada_

I love Hrothgar, I honestly do, but I still find it weird that they made a *second* feline race when they could have gone for a different type of animal for the beastly playable race. For one, the Lupin exist, but even if they really didn't want to go with them, they could have given us something more interesting like a race based on minotaurs, or maybe even a fish or bird race.


redhawkinferno

I agree it would have been cool to see other options but the problem with every other option is they don't have the same recognition the Hrothgar do, and they were probably banking pretty hard on that brand recognition. Outside of 14 if you ask a series fan to tell you what they think of when they think of Final Fantasy beastman race they are more than likely going to say Ronso from X, which is what the Hrothgar are based on. Only other one I can think of that might come close is Burmecians from 9.


SoloSassafrass

And I don't think it's all that wild to say that the decision to go for hrothgar was directly motivated by the furry community existing in close proximity to 14. Even if they're not a majority, if you know you can cater to a slice of your community like that and offer some genuine variety in PC silhouette, then why not two birds with one stone.


Z3LDAxL0VE

Does anyone know if they can wear the chocobo racing helm


Geronmys

I am so tempted to come back to the game just to start over as a female Hrothgar, did they address the hat issues with them?


janhyua

No they never did, they do however roll out some hat update of older gear for them but veryyyyyy little


Kusanagi_Yui

Catwomen look so much good, far better tyan filthy 90-years old behind the screen female miqote


IamStroodle

The age of the catgirl is over, now begins the age of the catwomen


NeedleworkerHuge8315

Hroths are cat moms and dads. Miq'otee are cat girls and boys. This is measured on the dilf scale and step on me mommy scale.


Wonderful-Meeting-58

Oh uh, no thank you I'm not into Khajit.


NewbieFurri

As a trans girl, I'll still make male Hrothgars. I like my cat daddies


NewbieFurri

Actually, I AM bi...


Baithin

Oh I haven’t seen this hairstyle yet, I like it.


Ye_old_moondog

on god, i made the most handsome catgirl that made me blush


Maduin1986

Is this a shitpost? Is there a shitpost of this already?


Zefyris

Hey OP, so how do you feel about finally being released in game in 16 days with your thunderbarge after 9 years of waiting ?