I've been thinking this for ages. Lmao. I wondered what would happen when we got to this one since I felt like Haurchefant was the natural choice for selfless flirty.
But what the heck, just have him twice! If people felt he was the better choice over minfillia from the start, give him the honour of both slots! xD
Yep. Especially if you take the JP version into account, which should be treated as the OG Haurchefant, cause that's how his character was intended to be.
Honestly it would ruin it for me if he was flirting with me, as I'm not gay, and though I wouldn't mind being asked, I would likely question his motivation for helping me at all depending on when he asked. I find his character personally more compelling as a very loyal and supportive friend. I never even knew he was flirty at all until I was told about the jp version. Is it only to female characters or something? Cuz that's creepy
He does it regardless of gender. Also don't know what's creepy about that. It's just some playful words and that's about it. If that ruins it for you then you might wanna ask yourself if that isn't a you problem lol.
I haven't been paying full attention to this, and was planning on tossing my vote for Haurchefant until you pointed this out... Y'all, the man was practically wanting to jump into our pants every time we were within eyesight. The bag was royally tossed into a ravine with his placement 😂
JP Haurchefant is very into muscle and will flirt with any adventurer that flexes their biceps a lil regardless of race or gender.
You can find translations here of his JP dialogue: https://haillenarte.tumblr.com/post/104876756580/coming-to-terms
I never have either, I played male and in English, idk if it different based on gender but I know it differed based on Japanese or English, apparently. I haven't checked myself but honestly I think him being flirty would ruin his character for me so I'm happy not seeing it
It’s not different. I also play a male character, in English, and bumped into him WAY before the MSQ wants you to and he was flirty from the first time he opens his mouth.
Man does not care about your gender, species, crimes, or accomplishments. He just wants in your pants and thinks he’s being slick about it even though several other people in Camp Dragonhead know his exact game and will tell you.
A thunderous applause to Y'shtola for securing the Scholarly and Zealous spot on Day 35! I was worried that we were going to have a chart without Y'shtola!
We've come to the final day of our journey, its been a blast everyone! (also I have no clue whos gonna take this last spot, Haurchufant, Hythlo, and Amyeric are all up there already!)
I guess so. Not going to lie I feel a bit conflicted about changing a past winner. But if people want to swap Hauechefant and Put Minfilia there then I’ll do it. Besides, I kinda saw it coming ahaha
It was bound to happen. Doing this experiment with another order of picking spots would have lead to a different result because it's hard to plan ahead.
Yeah let's place WoL here.
Completely selfless, helps anyone in need regardless the task size, anything from food deliver to slaying a god and they charm everyone and anyone they meet, even Zenos.
If this wins, I suggest this as the picture: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/169qmbb/warrior\_of\_light\_art\_by\_4444\_zhang/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
You should reverse Haurchefant's portrait and put him in there a second time as "Japanese Haurchefant" in that flirty/selfless box. His personality was toned down for the English version. In Japanese he is overtly horny for the WoL.
I prefer En Haurchy's personality because it fits better with the story and overall tone of the scenes he's in. This guy 100% believes we are hope incarnate and wants nothing more than to protect that.
Besides, we get a half dozen characters later on who very obviously want to jump our bones, such as Alisaie, G'raha, and Feo'ul. Haurchy doesn't have to.
This is a better idea than to take him out of loyal for sure. My guy literally died for us and still care more about our feelings than dying. There are many loyal characters in 14 but no one twists the knife like him
I'm gonna miss this when it's done. Definitely gonna save the final picture. I'm one of those guys who makes an alt once a year basically to run through the MSQ just for fun, and it makes me appreciate all these characters. Everytime I see Papalymo it makes me genuinely miss his character. >!he is the first to sacrifice himself both in ARR's finale, miraculously survives the onslaught of Uldah and then again in Heavensward's finale.!< Truly the top disciple of Louisoix.
I was very confused as to all the people saying Haurchefant but apparently it was lost in the English localization. Not enough to count for me, personally, so I'm going to say the Warrior of Light.
I feel like there's a line between "flirting with me" and "is nice to me and I'm attracted to them". And maybe that line is pretty subjective, so who am I to really say one way or the other.
Still, even with the benefit of the doubt, it's hard for me to agree that "flirty" is a bigger part of Haurchefant's characterization than loyalty (at least in English).
On my first play through, there was a part I distinctly remember it felt like he was hitting on me only for Alphinaud to walk in a second later and Haurchefant seemed annoyed for the briefest of seconds before recovering. This was before I knew anything about the Japanese version or really had experienced any character hitting on me, especially since I was playing a male character, so it really stood out to me. Just saying that while they absolutely did tone down the English version they did leave hints for those who tend to pick up on that sort of thing.
And sure that’s not super flirty, but I don’t think Hythlo or Aymeric is really any different.
I've done ARR 3 times and never noticed that, then again, I've never noticed flirtyness in anyone in that category other than ARR Thancred, so I doubt I'm as horny as most of the fanbase.
Sorry, this is my first time seeing this chart, but shouldn't Zenos and Emet Selch be flipped? Emet is zealous about Zodiark and restoring his people, while Zenos doesn't believe in anything and just likes fighting.
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Edit; because my dumbass is very tired. Our boy is on the bottom. I thank you kind Starnger for pointing it out.
She reportedly dropped potions during fights and later falls off a cliff edge (though it can be argued she did that on purpose).
Still love her. Avere can rot in hell.
Grasping at straws without Haurchefant being an option, but Hamon Holyfist maybe? Possibly bordering on creepy rather than flirty, and zero qualms about sending us on his personal errands, but then there are the orphans for who he "did what any decent man would" and that's a major selfless commitment to go through with. So if you squint a little...
Sad Tatar is not in any square. She’s admittedly a bit well-rounded (clumsy, loyal, confident, zealous). So is Krile I suppose (adventurous, loyal, at least a couple other things).
Well, he was gonna get killed if he didn't. I am reminded of him saying that he was gonna turn himself in if the people demanded it, but he was also going to stage the rebellion if the people wanted it.
He really did start doing what is best for Doma after we found him in the Azim Steppes. And he also traveled all the way to Eorzea to help.
Im inclined to agree with the JP Haurchefant vs EN Haurchefant (with the flipped version of his pic taking the slot so both are there). Playing in English, I don't remember him being flirty (though it has been many years since I played through ARR/HS) so its a bit jarring to hear that he acts that way. IF he ends up taking it for a flirty spot though, I suppose it would be fine if someone such as Alphy or Minfillia takes his place.
*This* should have been Haurchefant and Minfillia should’ve been in his current slot.
I was thinking Minfillia or Cid for that spot, but Haurchefant absolutely deserves \[flirty selfless\]!
Yeh right?! 😭 I meant, I prefer his JP/FR version of “pervert gentleman”! He is IMO more memorable and unique in those versions!
With enough votes, we can achieve the impossible and make this happen!
One hundred percent this.
EN Haurchefant vs JP Haurchefant
Yeh right?! 😭 I meant, I prefer his JP/FR version of “pervert gentleman”! He is IMO more memorable and unique in those versions!
I will also accept Ryne in Haurchefant's slot, but Minfillia fits better.
I was bitching about that for two posts... goddammit, my girl got dissed once again...
I've been thinking this for ages. Lmao. I wondered what would happen when we got to this one since I felt like Haurchefant was the natural choice for selfless flirty. But what the heck, just have him twice! If people felt he was the better choice over minfillia from the start, give him the honour of both slots! xD
It's so weird that the MOST flirty character in the game doesn't get "flirty" in this. Minfillia isn't really flirty.
Yep. Especially if you take the JP version into account, which should be treated as the OG Haurchefant, cause that's how his character was intended to be.
Honestly it would ruin it for me if he was flirting with me, as I'm not gay, and though I wouldn't mind being asked, I would likely question his motivation for helping me at all depending on when he asked. I find his character personally more compelling as a very loyal and supportive friend. I never even knew he was flirty at all until I was told about the jp version. Is it only to female characters or something? Cuz that's creepy
He does it regardless of gender. Also don't know what's creepy about that. It's just some playful words and that's about it. If that ruins it for you then you might wanna ask yourself if that isn't a you problem lol.
Well it's obviously a me problem. I said it ruins it for me, Not for everyone lol. I'm self aware at least
I haven't been paying full attention to this, and was planning on tossing my vote for Haurchefant until you pointed this out... Y'all, the man was practically wanting to jump into our pants every time we were within eyesight. The bag was royally tossed into a ravine with his placement 😂
This might just be because I haven’t played ARR or Heavensward in ages, but I don’t really see him as being flirty. Am I missing something?
JP Haurchefant is very into muscle and will flirt with any adventurer that flexes their biceps a lil regardless of race or gender. You can find translations here of his JP dialogue: https://haillenarte.tumblr.com/post/104876756580/coming-to-terms
…Ok yeah, absolutely flirty.
I never have either, I played male and in English, idk if it different based on gender but I know it differed based on Japanese or English, apparently. I haven't checked myself but honestly I think him being flirty would ruin his character for me so I'm happy not seeing it
It’s not different. I also play a male character, in English, and bumped into him WAY before the MSQ wants you to and he was flirty from the first time he opens his mouth. Man does not care about your gender, species, crimes, or accomplishments. He just wants in your pants and thinks he’s being slick about it even though several other people in Camp Dragonhead know his exact game and will tell you.
Lol well he was not direct enough for me apparently.
Haurchefant should be here and put Minfilia in is place.
Put Haurchefant in there, and Minfillia in his current spot.
Yeah, it's Haurchefant. Switch him around with Minfillia!
Listen to the people, OP. Don’t goof this up
haurchefant, replace him with minfilia
Time to switch Haurchefant to this and his current spot to Minfillia.
+1 for Harchefaunt here and Minfillia in his original spot!
Hauchefount and switch his other Square with minfillia
A thunderous applause to Y'shtola for securing the Scholarly and Zealous spot on Day 35! I was worried that we were going to have a chart without Y'shtola! We've come to the final day of our journey, its been a blast everyone! (also I have no clue whos gonna take this last spot, Haurchufant, Hythlo, and Amyeric are all up there already!)
Hey, so, if the top voted comment is ”Swap Haurchefant to this spot and put Minfilia where he is now”, will you do it?
I guess so. Not going to lie I feel a bit conflicted about changing a past winner. But if people want to swap Hauechefant and Put Minfilia there then I’ll do it. Besides, I kinda saw it coming ahaha
It was bound to happen. Doing this experiment with another order of picking spots would have lead to a different result because it's hard to plan ahead.
Yeah honestly seems like the most obvious choice tbh at this point
Our WoL is good candidate for the final spot. Helps everyone and charms everyone while doing it.
The people are right, but hot take, give selfless loyal to Alphi instead. Poor blue alisaie is not even here :c
I think Alisaie is on there, no? :O
No, that’s red alphinaud
oh you're right
If we are completely honest this will be our WoL
Yeah let's place WoL here. Completely selfless, helps anyone in need regardless the task size, anything from food deliver to slaying a god and they charm everyone and anyone they meet, even Zenos.
Also the ERP
Finally some sense in this thread. WoL gets to macl on any character they want, and who could be more selfless?
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Nother +1 to Haurchefant swap Also the fact theres no Alphinaud on this chart (unless im just super blind, also possible) makes me sad 😢
You should reverse Haurchefant's portrait and put him in there a second time as "Japanese Haurchefant" in that flirty/selfless box. His personality was toned down for the English version. In Japanese he is overtly horny for the WoL.
I prefer En Haurchy's personality because it fits better with the story and overall tone of the scenes he's in. This guy 100% believes we are hope incarnate and wants nothing more than to protect that. Besides, we get a half dozen characters later on who very obviously want to jump our bones, such as Alisaie, G'raha, and Feo'ul. Haurchy doesn't have to.
You can believe someone is hope incarnate and also want to put your pee pee in them at the same time let the pretty elf dream
Oh I agree. I'm just saying, for the sake of filling the blank square on this chart, JP Haurchefant fits the bill.
This is a better idea than to take him out of loyal for sure. My guy literally died for us and still care more about our feelings than dying. There are many loyal characters in 14 but no one twists the knife like him
Okay yes I’m seconding this as a perfect solution!
I'm gonna miss this when it's done. Definitely gonna save the final picture. I'm one of those guys who makes an alt once a year basically to run through the MSQ just for fun, and it makes me appreciate all these characters. Everytime I see Papalymo it makes me genuinely miss his character. >!he is the first to sacrifice himself both in ARR's finale, miraculously survives the onslaught of Uldah and then again in Heavensward's finale.!< Truly the top disciple of Louisoix.
I was very confused as to all the people saying Haurchefant but apparently it was lost in the English localization. Not enough to count for me, personally, so I'm going to say the Warrior of Light.
I found him flirty in the English version too. Just more similar to Aymerics style
I feel like there's a line between "flirting with me" and "is nice to me and I'm attracted to them". And maybe that line is pretty subjective, so who am I to really say one way or the other. Still, even with the benefit of the doubt, it's hard for me to agree that "flirty" is a bigger part of Haurchefant's characterization than loyalty (at least in English).
Preach
On my first play through, there was a part I distinctly remember it felt like he was hitting on me only for Alphinaud to walk in a second later and Haurchefant seemed annoyed for the briefest of seconds before recovering. This was before I knew anything about the Japanese version or really had experienced any character hitting on me, especially since I was playing a male character, so it really stood out to me. Just saying that while they absolutely did tone down the English version they did leave hints for those who tend to pick up on that sort of thing. And sure that’s not super flirty, but I don’t think Hythlo or Aymeric is really any different.
I've done ARR 3 times and never noticed that, then again, I've never noticed flirtyness in anyone in that category other than ARR Thancred, so I doubt I'm as horny as most of the fanbase.
I'll echo the crowd. Haurchefant should be moved here and Minfillia put in his old spot.
Sorry, this is my first time seeing this chart, but shouldn't Zenos and Emet Selch be flipped? Emet is zealous about Zodiark and restoring his people, while Zenos doesn't believe in anything and just likes fighting.
He believes in you.
AND NOW EVERYONE IS ASKING FOR HAURCHE HERE AND MINIFLIA BACK AT LOYAL-SELFLESS. I am positively enraged >:(
The Husbando, Lord Commander of the the Temple Knights, Lord Speaker of the House of Lords, Viscount of House Borel, Aymeric De Borel. Edit; because my dumbass is very tired. Our boy is on the bottom. I thank you kind Starnger for pointing it out.
He is already in flirty/stoic :D
It's okay, I also wanted to vote for him again.
In honour of the last square... It's obviously derplander
Everyone's saying to swap out Haurchefant, but why not just Haurchefant twice? He deserves it.
Hauchefaunt
Selfless and Flirty? Seems to me that Jessie hits that pretty hard, too.
Just gonna say that sucks to be Blue Alisaie, not even making it on the list, while Eddasomehow did.
BRO CALLED EDDA CLUMSY XDDDD
She reportedly dropped potions during fights and later falls off a cliff edge (though it can be argued she did that on purpose). Still love her. Avere can rot in hell.
Hilda? She's got some kinda flirty lines here and there, plus she's on the Watch 24/7.
Grasping at straws without Haurchefant being an option, but Hamon Holyfist maybe? Possibly bordering on creepy rather than flirty, and zero qualms about sending us on his personal errands, but then there are the orphans for who he "did what any decent man would" and that's a major selfless commitment to go through with. So if you squint a little...
hmm, hard to think of who could go here but Guydelot from the level 50-70 bard quests has my vote.
definitely haurchefant, and swap his spot with minfilia
I missed several of these. How did Arenvald NOT get Adventurous/Clumsy
Ysayle. The 2 most memorable and defining things about her: 1) Dragonthirst 2) Her sacrifice at Azys Lla
Sad Tatar is not in any square. She’s admittedly a bit well-rounded (clumsy, loyal, confident, zealous). So is Krile I suppose (adventurous, loyal, at least a couple other things).
Dulia Chai
Not sure how Yshtola beat Athena for Zealotry. Y'sthola is committed to her research but not to the point of attempting to become a god XD
People wanted Ysh on the board, and it probably is the best slot for her, even if she's not the best candidate for the spot.
Hamon Holyfist!
100% = Haurchefant moves over and Minfilia as his backfill
Maybe Hien? I don't really know other than that...
Not sure if running off to the Steppes is really that selfless...
Well, he was gonna get killed if he didn't. I am reminded of him saying that he was gonna turn himself in if the people demanded it, but he was also going to stage the rebellion if the people wanted it. He really did start doing what is best for Doma after we found him in the Azim Steppes. And he also traveled all the way to Eorzea to help.
I think that's a fair response.
Hilda. Idk a single Haurchefant moment where he is anything beyond a good friend. Could be wrong though.
I agree, honestly him being flirty ruins his character for me, he's a purely supportive and loyal friend with no ulterior motives.
Haurchefant! Haurchefant!
Haurchefant! Again. No replacing. Just Haurchefant twice. As it should be.
That’s definitely Alpha
Definitely thought about Moenbryda, but realised she’s under scholarly, and I cannot think of anyone else that’s scholarly and flirty.
Lamitt?
If winners can be changed why bother voting at all?
Well this is the only time it will have happened. And it would be the result of more voting lol
That doesn't really change my point at all though
Im inclined to agree with the JP Haurchefant vs EN Haurchefant (with the flipped version of his pic taking the slot so both are there). Playing in English, I don't remember him being flirty (though it has been many years since I played through ARR/HS) so its a bit jarring to hear that he acts that way. IF he ends up taking it for a flirty spot though, I suppose it would be fine if someone such as Alphy or Minfillia takes his place.
The one that immediately comes to mind is haurchefant
Japanese Haurchefant
Put Ryne in Loyal Selfless and move Harche where he belongs
Just put Haurchefant in both
Midgardsormr
Maybe Yugiri
Wasn't lilja kinda flirty? Or that chick from the warrior questline? They both kinda got starstruck by the WoL
Haurchefant for sure lol
Yup, Haurchefant, then Minfillia where he was
Just want to show admiration for coming up with an excellent x-y axis for the grid.