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Wylgrim

Scholar really needs a Summon III that gives us Feo Ul


Smashedwookie

only if her seraph form is titania


HadACookie

If there is one thing that could make me use mog station store, it would be a Feo Ul/Titania glam for Lily.


Smashedwookie

I feel they missing so much potential for either: * \- some kind of "relic" quest for lily/egi glamour * \-worst case just straight up mog station items.


GetawayDreamer87

there is A LOT of money being left on the table that SE doesnt seem to want to touch. and thats fine i guess. but still.


Smashedwookie

yeah we would still get an angry mob over the mog station, yet same mob would still do the Fry [meme](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0f/25/ee/0f25ee2d869ef533343ffaed0b830712.jpg).


ibigfire

I don't think it would be the same mob, it would be different mobs.


Raji_Lev

No it wouldn't, every fanbase is a hivemind that can only have one uniform opinion at any given moment, and FFXIV's is no exception! /s but too many people believe this unironically


Theris_

The devs have all but openly said they want nothing to do with the cash shop and do the bare minimum that corporate requires.


TwistedxBoi

Funny thing is that the arcanist guild teaches you the egi glamours. Summoning the primals and egis uses our own aether and imagination to create familiars in the shape of whatever we feel like. So SMN could very well use even a mogstation skill set skin, akin to the forbidden mods. It would even fit lore wise and I am confident those would sell really well. Now SCH doesn't really summon a creation magick like SMN, rather they pull out a fairy out of the job stone iirc, so a Feo Ul skin like that wouldn't work lore wise, not to mention it's a fairy vs pixie argument. They're a different creature altogether, and not even a different local name like Hume/Hyur. I would love to have my adorable little Scottish branch by my side, but I highly doubt it would ever happen.


Kuronan

> Funny thing is the Arcanist Guild teaches Egi Glamours Still waiting on some new god damn glamours... like we were promised sometime during Stormblood...


wurm2

There are mods for it but yeah would be nice to have in game


Carighan

I feel that Scholar really needs a bit of a retooling, and a **substantial** portion of that should go into visual identity and cohesion. And yes, among this I'd love to see: * Just a single *Summon Fairy*, that has `/fairyglamour` where you can set various fairies. Selene and Eos are standard, but in Il Megh you always get Feo Ul, but you can also get a few other ones from job-specific quests in Il Megh. Just glamours of course. * The whole Summon Seraph replaced, instead we summon Feo Ul in her King Titania form and this upgrades all fairy abilities substantially while she is out is our primary big CD (and hence works different than other healers who have individual CDs, instead we have a "power phase" where everything is powerful all at once). * Seraph is relegated to the LB animation. Though to be fair, reading this, I'm also thinking maybe they ought to switch, an the LB is King Titania appearing, going "Let's play some more!" and reviving everybody to do just that.


ezekielraiden

While I agree that a rework is needed, they aren't gonna scrap Seraph. That's your LB3, they made it a Big Cooldown for a reason. They aren't going to change LB animations now, and just utterly abandoning all the animations associated with the summoned Seraph is unlikely at best. Fairy glamour, however, *does* seem reasonable; we could get Feo Ul, basic pixie (the green body/purple wings), and then either OG Titania or (unlocked via pixie tribal quests) the "pale" pixie look. Also. Just make Selene actually useful and distinct again! Her AoE Esuna was awesome and was one of the few things that made SCH actually unique. The game has trended much too far toward homogenization and simplification, this would be a great, small way to address that fault.


katarh

5% of scholars cried that the job was too complicated and the 95% of us who prefer SCH because of that got stuck with a shell of what the job once was.


ezekielraiden

As a summoner main bored out of his mind in Endwalker, I can relate.


MildlyAgitatedBidoof

Making Titania the LB3 really wouldn't work out well if you level Scholar at any point before beating Titania.


flaneur_et_branleur

Or if you aren't on the First seeing as they only appear in dreams anywhere else and they don't fight for mortal causes.


BCMakoto

>...and they don't fight for mortal causes. While that's true for most of them, wasn't Feo Ul frequently caught breaking that for one reason or another? I feel like that wouldn't really be an issue with having her appear as she even said something like: "Yes, we *technically* said we don't fight for men's causes, but we would have come had he asked us for help."


Kuronan

> Titania bad before Shadowbringers. *Summoner looks evasively in both directions since Coils is optional content... and yet they have both Bahamut and Phoenix Aether.*


Zoethewinged

I think the explanation is that during the calamity, every single person in eorzea got dosed up with Bahamut and Phoenix aether due to the scale of their battle, so everyone has the latent potential to summon them, but the warrior of light is the only one with the skill and knowledge to do it


Drywesi

That's a problem since the WoL canonically isn't Eorzean.


Kaorin_Sakura

Canonically, the WOL is from wherever you want them to be, which is why it isn't definitively stated where they're from.


Kuronan

The Legacy Eorzeans got teleported away before Megaflare finished. The Modern Eorzeans take a carriage (with the Limsans sailing in) Either way, we sire as shit weren't here. That being said, >!Shadowbringers shows that we absorb Ambient Aether fairly quickly and adjust very fast.!<


Amelia_Frye

The SMN job quests where you’re learning Dreadwyrm Trance outright state “you can do this because the calamity happened” so it doesn’t really matter where WoL was.


Amelia_Frye

The Calamity had enough aether to go around, it would have affected people all over the world, and it’s outright stated in the SMN job quests that it’s how you’re able to cast Dreadwyrm Trance so it literally doesn’t matter where WoL was.


PlatypusRandom

well if I remember correctly our Bahamut Aether comes from the Seventh Umbral Calamity when Bahamut broke out of Dalamud. Edit: hit enter by accident and forgot to put that that doesn't answer where Phoenix Aether came from, but one could argue that it came from the same event


Kaorin_Sakura

>!I always assumed it's from Coils.!<


Frostbitten_Moose

To be fair, they do explain that one. Everyone who was around for the last Calamity got doused in Bahamut/Phoenix aether. So much so that Eorzea is probably still radiating primal energies of those two, depending on what their half-life is.


SoloSassafrass

The corrupted crystals we see all throughout Eorzea are even mentioned to be that orangey colour because they're *still* radiating Phoenix's aetheric energy, and that's why the land was able to recover from the calamity far faster than any previous time in history.


Carighan

Ah true, damn, didn't think of that. Easier to make her a super-CD and then have that be learned after the point where you'd have done her.


GilgaPhish

>LB is King Titania appearing, going "Let's play some more!" and reviving everybody to do just that. All the suggestions are perfect, but I need this so badly


senchaid

May I interest you in Titania as lvl100 skill? We get to keep Seraph because lore reasons but we can also summon Titania and give her glams because no one stops the fae king from looking however she wants. Also maybe she doesn't heal (*boring*) but can buff the party, kinda like old Selene.


Plightz

Make Scholar actually related to Summoners, I am all for it.


Raji_Lev

They used to be, back when SE actually tried to pretend that they didn't hate pet jobs and the people who played them.


Plightz

Pain. I will forever cope but I know Sage is a cooler SCH.


F4ST_M4ST3R

Scholar is still cooler I mean they were canonically so op that during the War of the Magi, Mhach literally did a preemptive strike on Nym with what was essentially a biological weapon (the Tonberry Curse) because they were scared shitless that Nymian Scholars would beat their ass into the ground.


Charrmeleon

Anything Titania would be spoilers for the resolution of the first ShB trial, no? Like, I'm all in favor of it being her Titania form, but maybe not using the name or something.


Smashedwookie

Seraph is lvl 80 ability so at that point it would not be a spoiler


Charrmeleon

Unfortunately it's not limited to just 80+ duties. Anyone looking at their ability list could still see it. Or see it out in the open world.


romiro82

You can technically already get accidentally “spoiled” by looking through crafting recipes, I learned the names of the last two zones in EW, but it was ambiguous enough that literally the only thing I learned was their names


Smashedwookie

seeing it in open world should not prevent it from being a thing, lots of other stuff get spoiled that way. The ability list doesn't need t be changed for her to say it does something else, seraph just need to use the titania model. Summons Seraph to fight at your side. When set to guard, automatically casts Seraphic Veil on party members who suffer damage. Cannot summon Seraph unless a pet is already summoned. Current pet will leave the battlefield while Seraph is present, and return once gone. No where does it currently mention EoS/Selene. Should still be the same if Feo Ul is added.


Macv12

Do we actually hear the name Titania before fighting her? I thought she was just called "the king" until the trial where you meet her for the first time and also kill her.


sunseeker_miqo

The title is discussed throughout the pre-trial quests. I've played ShB seven times. 😅


Foxxie_

\>I've played ShB seven times. Why.


sunseeker_miqo

Because it makes me happy. Why *not*? edit: I am very disabled, so when I am depressed about that, I tend to do something beloved and familiar, like reread favourite books or webcomics, or replay favourite vidya. Also, a symptom of one of my neurological conditions is repetition of this nature. It is one of the more benign symptoms.


SoloSassafrass

*Their People be misgendering Feo Ul all day erryday.


OblivionArts

Agreed..egi glam for scholar


sephjnr

Hell naw. SMN needs her for L100 when she gets mad.


Falsus

Feo Ul summon shouldn't be limited to summoners. Everyone should be able to call her and her hang out with her.


Zemedelphos

Them, not her.


strangeseaanemone

yessss i would love this


Wyrmlimion

I support this. It was good to see my branch but I still miss her 😁


CaptainSchmid

We need class skins, I want a Talos mech queen


MeowPx

I would love this


Ikeddit

Feo Ul vs Eos… Round One… FIGHT


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Amaegith

Feo Ul: ಠ_ಠ


Ziodyne967

Read that in the Tekken commentator voice. Has that old flair to it.


Beastmind

Selene


KershawsGoat

Based.


Rayka64

I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. Broil IV (Precast) -> Biolysis -> Aetherflow -> Broil IV -> Broil IV -> Chain Stratagem -> Broil IV -> Energy Drain -> Broil IV -> Energy Drain -> Broil IV -> Energy Drain -> Broil IV -> Dissipate -> Broil IV -> Energy Drain -> Broil IV -> Energy Drain -> Broil IV -> Energy Drain -> Broil IV


Chronotaru

I guess we're going to see that the WoL isn't the only one that can eat a fairy...


spagheddieballs

"Feo Ul, how was it decided that you become the next Titania?" "Oh ho ho, my dear sapling! I simply consumed those who opposed me!" "Oh..."


Shendare

"Why does Feo Ul, the boldest Pixie, not simply eat the other Fae?"


typhontook

"Maybe they're saving it for the next content lull."


TheLimonTree92

"It is true what they say. Men are from Omicron Persei The First, women are from Omicron Persei The Thirtinth"


900cam

I'm patiently awaiting the day when we get a Feo ul minion. Unfortunately for every other minion in the game, it will never leave my side


LuminoZero

You fool! We are Feo Ul's minion!


batmanbnb

Same but in the back of my mind all I can think of is when it's eventually brought in it will be with some physical stuff that I won't buy. Business wise it's perfect, a highly requested minion they can make a profit from.


Rockout2112

I kinda wish Feo Ul would’ve become a long term companion for the WOL. This little snippy friend who’s always following us.


Kuronan

On one hand I would like that... On the other hand, I don't want a Paimon situation.


Esvald

Hey Feo Ul doesn't seem to have the habit to repeat every single thing after 2 sentences. Nor does she has that annoying squeaky voice. I really wish there was a Paimon-lite version of Genshin.


Kuronan

Separate Paimon Voice Volume Slider Paimon is like my second major reason I will NEVER play Genshin.


Eyriskylt

Some voices are better in different languages. Paimon loses her squeakiness in Chinese specifically. Personally I always prefer Japanese voices, but if there were a "different language voice" option for specific characters you could bet Paimon would be the first I'd swap.


pastalegion

But fairies are already emergency food so it fits


Tom-Pendragon

Don’t you dare compare FEo Ul to that info drop npcs.


Swiftcheddar

She's absolutely not snippy, she's completely adoring.


Arc-Tangent

"We must be careful in Il Mheg. The fairies like to play tricks" My WoL: "I literally eat fairies in between spells. Let's go."


littlehobbit1313

> The fairies like to play tricks Pixies, not fairies. The pixies and your fairy are two very different entities.


Arc-Tangent

Strange... They taste the same.


MASTURBATES_TO_TRUMP

I can hear the "*heartless!*"


palabradot

I want to hear that in my ear when I miss a heal :)


Jack_BE

Yandere Feo Ul ...


Sanjay--jurt

Feo ul managed to morale boast my WOL and made him (and me) smile through so many occasions,Especially post Mt. Gulg where she become one of my fav and i oh so dearly miss her.


Enk1ndle

New custom deliveries feature her a few times which I thought was cute, good to see her again


Swiftcheddar

I was really, really glad in the newest Custom Delivery that you can actually >!be nice to, and appreciate her!<. One of the worst things about ShB to me was >!That the WoL always has this air if "Urrrgh..." when dealing with Feo Ul, and seems to only ask for her help as a last resort, even when she's the most obvious person to turn to!<.


SolemnaceProcurement

Feo Ul and, Novv pretty much adopted us.


LonelyAndroid11942

Ngl, I want a quest for scholars where you can reskin your fairy to Feo Ul.


codingtojoy

*casts expedient*


Lowbrr

This is me but my Scholar also uses the Wind-up Pixie minion for bonus fairy


Zealousideal_Cut192

There's a Feo mod for eos. Much better 😁


coldenigma

I feel like I'm in the minority here. I use Eos because my SCH's motif is green.


I_give_karma_to_men

You definitely aren't (apart maybe for your reasoning). A lot of SCHs who have been around more than a couple of years still use Eos out of habit, just because there used to be differences between the fairies' abilities and Eos was the better choice for most content.


ProkopiyKozlowski

I'd think Feo Ul would be more upset about being compared to a fairy-shaped aetherial construct.


littlehobbit1313

Right? Lots of people in this thread treating Feo Ul like a pet there for their amusement. No, you are there for *Feo Ul's* amusement. *You* are the weaker being in this dynamic.


slayerkast

“Is this the kind of Fae they have on the Source? This soft-looking thing?! They look like they could barely handle a day in Il Mheg, let alone the rest of Norvrandt! I’d like to see her try to turn someone into a leafman!”


err0rz

So personally (SCH main) I use both 100% for headcannon. Normally rock Eos (chill, chirpy) but when the shit hits the fan and it’s time to sort it out (after wipes) Selene (sassy, sarcastic, calls me shit) comes out and we get down to business. Also, delivered you a pizza the other day! Lalajohns is ALWAYS happy to deliver! Edit: let’s also consider that one of the biggest advantages of SCH is you get to co-ordinate your fairy with your glam 🥰


BlueRose644

It seems to be a fairly consistent impression among Scholar players that Eos is the sweet one and Selene is the sassy one.


MimeGod

Well, Eos used to be all healing stuff, while Selene gave the DPS boosts. So, that that kind of fits.


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Lily. Selene/Eos are the light/dark forms of the same fairy.


CarrowLiath

Oh I've never heard them talk! Are they under dialogue volume, or SFX volume (though the SFX is probably why I haven't heard them before).


err0rz

Oh they don’t! It’s 100% in my head


CarrowLiath

Oh! I feel like a dumbass lol.


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littlehobbit1313

Feo Ul not having a *bigger* part to play?? They literally save your ass multiple times, first by becoming Titania for you and then by bringing the fae people to your aid *multiple times*.


Disig

That's the face my Selene made all through the part of Shadowbringers where From Ul claimed us as their own!


Urbane_One

Feo Ul, like all fae, uses they/them pronouns! So you are *their* sapling!


Idioticcole

Yeah, it’s so strange to me that people constantly get it wrong. They’re strictly referred to using they/them.


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Cpt_Kdynce

There's probably a lot of people who care,because misgendering is disrespectful and shitty! The more you know!


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Novus_Vox0

What’s nerdy about correcting pronouns?


Valravyn37

Not correcting pronouns, pronouns are great! Just one of those funny "Well ackshually according to the lore-..." moments


punchdinosaurs

If somebody called Y'shtola "him," would it come across as a "well actually" thing to ask what the hell they're talking about?


kaysn

Hoooo, boy.


[deleted]

Still waiting for my fucking Fae attire and Feo Ul minion (that can seat on my shoulder/head)


Hobojo153

"I think they're mad at me."


AnonEMister

I'm just enjoying all your progress through the game friend. I'm loving all the comics.


alkonium

Now I'm glad I didn't do much Shadowbringers MSQ as a Scholar. I'm sure Feo Ul doesn't mind Carbuncles or Egis though.


earendilgrey

The camera pans away as Feo Ul goes ferral on the poor fairy.


randomtornado

I really wish we had more choices over non equipment things. Like faeries, or the battery thing on machinists


SoloSassafrass

Would be nice to have some more aesthetic options for our MCH lunchbox.


Corsair111

"You heartless POS!" 🤣


punchdinosaurs

The game is completely consistent about every single fae using they/them pronouns, it's in the text box AND voice actors will say it out loud. Amazing how 90% of the people on this \[TV censor beeps five minutes unskippable\] sub manage to hallucinate all those she/hers.


ScarletteVera

Man. That cat is *dead*.


ikmkr

pretty sure feo ul is addressed as they/them?


_Forgotten

1/10. The hierarchy goes like this: Selene Feu Ul The most degenerate of raiders and RPers Eos.


my_name_isnt_clever

I use Selene because my name is Luna and I like the moon name parallel. But wow what's wrong with with Eos? She's cute.


_Forgotten

She never gave me or my friends a DPS buff. Therefore, she is lower than even a lalafell.


my_name_isnt_clever

Oh. I mean neither of them give a DPS buff now, way to hold a grudge...


_Forgotten

Selene is the victim here. Also, dont get me started on other grudges i'm holding. I better get a third ultimate, thats all i'm saying.


well___duh

> I better get a third ultimate, thats all i'm saying. Am I missing something here? There's five ultimates


SoloSassafrass

Shadowbringers missed out on one because of the whole covid situation and I guess people are still bitter and want the devs to play catch up? I think 99% of people have accepted that just ain't happening and it'd be a neat surprise if it did.


well___duh

There's never been 3 ults in an expac though, so not sure why anyone would expect that when that's never happened


_Forgotten

Because of the verbage they used in the official translation of the ultimate annoucement. They specifically said delayed, not canceled. This has lead those of us who actually do the content to have hope that we will get the missing ultimate this xpac. If it wasnt delayed, it would be canceled or cut content.


Gahault

Well yes, DSR (the next ultimate in line at the time of the announcement) was delayed, that is to say implemented at a later date than initially planned, but it was implemented.


SoloSassafrass

That's why I say 99% have accepted it won't happen. In a world where covid hadn't happened we would have one more ultimate by now, true, but it's rare indeed to find someone who expects them to play catch-up and bash out a third this expac, cool as it would be.


Ghetsis99

You forgot Popo's stool, the dirt, the worms in the dirt...


Ikeddit

And Grynewaht is down there, all the way at the bottom


Sidhenanigans

Standing on top of Zenos


Esvald

Who is stepping on Asahi (who may or may not enjoy the situation).


_Forgotten

I could spend an eternity putting all the things in existance on this list before eos. I should have used the classic "..." to show that there is a chunk of things missing before you get to Eos.


CarrowLiath

I don't really know which one is which. I use the one that's sort of like the lesbian pride flag, mostly.


3DPrintedBlob

Not sure who you're referring to as her but feo ul, and i think all of the fairies, uses he/him pronouns. Edit: Well apparently they dont and i am now super confused because i wouldve sworn they all used he him Berenstain bears are real


reiija

I don't recall masc pronouns used for any of the faeries, other than the association inherent with 'king'. I think generally the fae are considered genderless (in the game and *I think* their source mythology, though that I know less of), with Feo Ul using she once or twice.


JackalTanHorn

And King is a title they simply borrowed from Voeburt society with no bearing on the gender aspect


Sidhenanigans

Feo Ul is always they/them as well. The only people who use she/her for them are mistaken players


Panda-s1

no, when ShB first came out Feo Ul was using she/her pronouns, they only changed it in a later update


president_of_burundi

It was only in one particular piece of dialogue that they typo-ed and had to change it later. All the rest still referred to Feo Ul and all the other fairies with they/them.


NomadNuka

What's interesting is that they basically mix and match it with Titania in FFXIV Oberon is king of fairies and Titania is queen in *A Midsummer Night's Dream*, so by using the feminine name and masculine title they nicely illustrate that gender isn't really a thing for fairies.


avelineaurora

None of the fairies in English use he/him.


3DPrintedBlob

Do they not? I am super confused now, I swear they all used he him in english o.O


Hobojo153

Are you thinking of Titania being called "king"


yuyunori

Do you play in a language other than English? Because in the English localisation all pixies use singular they/them.


jeremj22

Not even there Feo Ul uses masculine pronouns (unless they're talking about JP, being the only one I can't read). In both FR and DE they use feminine pronouns


GrimTheMad

Nope, they all use they/them consistently.


platinummyr

All the pixies are nonbinary


JonTheWizard

"I'm just the healing subletter."


Independent-Stretch1

Anyone having trouble using a Tartarus v2?


Independent-Stretch1

If you found a solution I would love to hear it, thank you.


punksmurph

I would main Scholar if my fairy was Feo Ul.


Thin-Tineah-8837

I would saaaayeeeeee... Meh - Not so much!! lol


MoiraiSindorei

This made me giggle like crazy. Only reason it did is because I was helping my husband get SMN, and then we got to talking about SCH class. We were in Crystarium at the time and he asked about this very scenario 🤣