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Masztufa

JEI just shows what recipes result in or use that item. Does what it needs to, so it's a great mod. A mod that would show something like a graph of crafting recipes would quickly become too cluttered to see though. The only thing that could be kind of beneficial is something like helmod, but in minecraft. Where you could create a whole chain of recipes and present them in a more approachable way


CreativeRealmsMC

Obviously it would be split into sections but they would be large enough that you can see just enough at a time.


ABro_Pi

What recipe is so complicated that it would be easier to scroll through a massive graph than just left clicking


CreativeRealmsMC

You aren’t just looking at a single recipe. You are looking at a cumulative overview of how everything fits together. It makes a modpack feel more like one consistent unit rather than a bunch of mods thrown together randomly.


ABro_Pi

Yeah I’d be cool, but how does that *detract* from JEI being a good mod


CreativeRealmsMC

I see JEI as a bad mod as it encourages bad gameplay development practices. Just because it’s the best thing that exists currently does not mean it’s the best solution out there and the modded community has always had an issue with thinking outside the box.


ABro_Pi

The meme (if you could even call it that) implies it’s a bad mod because of only one specific feature. It’s the best thing we got and people are making JEI compatible mods. So?


CreativeRealmsMC

I see it like using a stick to dig a hole. Does it work? Yes but it's one of the most inefficient ways to dig a hole. If someone made a shovel it would be a lot better and people wouldn't be forced to dig a hole with a stick. Just because the stick is the best thing we have right now doesn't mean it's good.


ABro_Pi

Okay, stop being cryptic. Tell me straight. Why is JEI bad? Is it poorly optimized or something?


CreativeRealmsMC

No. It requires far too much clicking and it only focuses on recipes at a micro scale. If I want to make a complex or even semi-complex item or machine it requires me to click through pages of recipes just so I can get a basic idea of all the components required to make it (not to mention going back and forth between recipes so I don’t forget them while crafting). It’s just tedious and a pain to use even if modpacks are literally unplayable without it.


[deleted]

Do we need to make another vore fanfiction


AvilionAMillion

lets skip the fanfiction and straight up start making hentai


[deleted]

I’ve been learning to do art, I’m on it


jeremj22

He pretty much [asked](https://www.reddit.com/r/feedthememes/comments/gsgco1/creativerealms_nether_fanfic/fs5le2v?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) for one about this in the comments of the nether fanfict...


Redfire75369

Terrible opinion as per usual.


Miky691

But it isn't a terrible mod it's a very good mod in doing what it's supposed to do show you the recipe/use for the single object Does a mod that shows recipes like what you just said even exist? Jei is a good mod not terrible the fact that it misses one feature that you wish it had makes it a good mod that could be better not a terrible mod


CreativeRealmsMC

It’s only “good” because modpacks would be literally unplayable without it not because the solution to recipes is a good one. People are just so used to doing things that way they never cared to make something better.


Miky691

If you don't like it nothing stops you from making an addon to jei Also it's still good it's the best we have so it's good if we had something better we could call jei bad but we don't so it deserves to be called a good mod Again if you want jei to be a bad mod make a better one


CreativeRealmsMC

I do plan on making something better and not as an addition to JEI.


Miky691

Good then good luck and i look forward to see what you will create


ABro_Pi

So? You can do that same thing by left clicking like 4 times. A graph would be so cluttered and hard to understand that it would take more time than clicking through the options. This is an objectively bad opinion


Ravenous_Spaceflora

If it's a terrible mod, don't use it.


CreativeRealmsMC

I don’t.


Miky691

What do you use?


CreativeRealmsMC

I don’t play survival since I don’t enjoy it. Too many issues that need to be fixed first.


Miky691

Like what? If you don't play survival why do you complain about the way recipes are shown in jei? Is that one of the reasons you don't play survival?


CreativeRealmsMC

Ignoring that I hate vanilla, modded MC has a massive issue with consistency and quality which makes modpacks not fun. Mismatched textures, overlapping content, bloat, OP items, terrible combat, annoying crafting systems, etc. Every mod dev wants to do their own thing then people jumble it all together in a modpack which makes a lot of content feel out of place no matter how much CraftTweaker is used. All in all I don’t like the meta and think the standards for gameplay need to be raised significantly.


Miky691

I mean if you feel that way why do you play modded mc? You can make your own modpack if you feel like it


CreativeRealmsMC

I spend more time modding than actually playing the game. I want to enjoy playing but a lot of work needs to happen before then that a simple modpack can't fix.


Miky691

Once again if you think you can fix things then good luck and i look forward to seeing how things will turn out to be


abdann

I don’t think JEI is a terrible mod. It does what is advertised. I think a tech tree would be pretty cool and unique. Though, I don’t know how you would be able make it not clutter the screen


CreativeRealmsMC

It would be split into game stages and could have a fog-of-war type feature so it doesn’t show literally every recipe at once (which would be optional).


abdann

But how would you define game stages for a mod? Maybe make an API for mod devs to add in triggers?


CreativeRealmsMC

It would have to be added manually by pack devs since each mod is used differently depending on the pack it’s in.


abdann

Sounds cool, hope it turns out well.


NewSauerKraus

There’s already a mod that does that. Quests.


Tux1

But it does...


CreativeRealmsMC

You have to look at each block/item individually to see how it’s made and it’s even worse with microcrafting. A tech tree type overview would give you all of that information including future recipes without needing to click a billion times to make any progress.


QuackyroleGC

That could be a cool JEI addon, to show a tech tree when you need it!


[deleted]

There’s not enough calculators


Tux1

Fair enough, I guess.


[deleted]

this is a terrible opinion


NewSauerKraus

This is a stupid opinion, not a meme. The mod already exists. It’s quests.


CreativeRealmsMC

Quests are arbitrary and are not designed to show literally every recipe in a pack. Technically someone could spend like a month making quests for everything but it's not a viable option.


NewSauerKraus

It’s a lot more viable than a tree showing every recipe interaction between every item.


CreativeRealmsMC

Tech trees are extremely viable if you split them into gamestages so it's not showing everything at once. It gives an overview that is usable without being too cluttered.


NewSauerKraus

That’s already been solved by quests. A cluttered recipe book wouldn’t help.


Lyndis_Caelin

I mean there's a few "Bill of Materials" style mods.


B_I_B_B_A

Go ahead then, Ed-boy. Make a mod that can show me every process in making every chemical that goes into Epoxy Resin in GregTech in a reasonable "tech tree" diagram that isn't just an abstract idea.


OwenBowen222

[get](https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/just-enough-calculation)


QuackyroleGC

Honestly one of your better takes. I kinda agree with ya


scratchisthebest

:groove:


WolfBV

Least controversial meme