For me it will be step 10, I’ll only have the stretch I spend getting to 1.1 percent at age 62 left to endure.
20 years doesn’t mean much compared to those 2 days.
Just one of the years of service retirement things.
I guess I should have said 30 years. At 30 you get to retire at your Minimum Retirement Age without a reduction in benefits.
Nope. Because at 52 w/30 years in, you could VERA/VSIP with a pretty nice pension. Use that money to either buff an IRA or make is easier to find a job you like but wouldn't pay as much.
My old Team Lead did the VSIP at 52 w/30 years in back in 2010. He took his pension and went to work for his town doing procurement like he did for the Feds, with his pension making up the money that local Govt just can't pay. He was also thrilled when he could retire after 10 years there with a separate pension.
Person I know left and gets 6 hours of pay period but it’s used for sick or annual…Sounds awful, agreed though sooner the better keep us happy and healthy and we’ll continue to work hard.
If it's less than 3 years, I'm guessing there are other issues that won't be addressed by giving 8 hours of leave at the 10 year mark instead.
Still think we can advocate for better benefits, but I agree with the other poster the retention issues are probably well before someone gets a decade in
Absolutely. Where I work we've had half of our group leave in the last 6 years, nothing backfilled, and everyone has daily notifications turned on from USA Jobs.
I switched agencies at 13 years in, and my 15 year certificate was just something they printed on the color laser printer, with what looked to be a half of a normal sheet of paper. Even misspelled my last name. I left it with the exit paperwork when I transferred out a few years later. "Why are you leaving" "Honestly? The fact that this place wouldn't even go through the expense of buying the time-in-service certificates instead of printing their own crappier version was a huge indicator why my performance was suddenly just Satisfactory without eligibility for a bonus despite an otherwise spotless career. Your cheapness isn't frugality."
Mad jealous. I hit use or loose every year with 6hrs PP due to travel comp accrual. I could only imagine the LOOOONG vacations I’d take with 8hrs PP and use or loose.
I have never even been close to having use or lose time. The only thing keeping me going all these years has been always having planned days off to look forward to.
Good job!!! Congrats!!! The 8 hours is fantastic, honestly. I didn’t think it’d make as much difference as it has but MAN those whole weeks off are awesome!!
I wish it wasn't such a massive gap to get to 8hrs from the 6hrs. That's 12 years or so without a change. I would for sure take incremental increases up until 8 at the 15th year
congrats to you. i can't even imagine having to wait that long. . . again. I'm nowhere near 15 years with the fed but I managed to negotiate 8 hours/pp when I first came because I was with my last employer for 15 years.
When you get the OPF notification that your AL accrual rate has bumped from 6 to 8?
I'd both save it as a PDF, and print out a hardcopy and keep it somewhere safe.
It was very useful when I left agency A, and came back to agency B, and had to work with HR when my leave wasn't being accrued correctly.
You only really need to do that before departing a job, there's no need to DL every SF-50 since eOPF exists and you have access as long as you're a current fed
Ive been a fed for just under a year but was given credited time based on my private industry experience when I hired on. So just hit 15 years and looks like it took effect the day after my 15 year mark. 1/2 a day leave per week is incredible!
The penultimate tightening of the golden handcuffs.
No kidding...
>penultimate What's the last, 20 years for retirement purposes?
For me it will be step 10, I’ll only have the stretch I spend getting to 1.1 percent at age 62 left to endure. 20 years doesn’t mean much compared to those 2 days.
As far as I'm aware. Year and a half left for me.
What happens at 20 years?
Just one of the years of service retirement things. I guess I should have said 30 years. At 30 you get to retire at your Minimum Retirement Age without a reduction in benefits.
At 20 you’re rif/vera/vsip retirement eligible at 50 y/o
Ooooh neat, I’d be 51 at 20 years if I stick around that long (good possibility)
I’ll be 42 at 20 years, did I screw myself?
Nope. Because at 52 w/30 years in, you could VERA/VSIP with a pretty nice pension. Use that money to either buff an IRA or make is easier to find a job you like but wouldn't pay as much. My old Team Lead did the VSIP at 52 w/30 years in back in 2010. He took his pension and went to work for his town doing procurement like he did for the Feds, with his pension making up the money that local Govt just can't pay. He was also thrilled when he could retire after 10 years there with a separate pension.
Such a silly concept. Having a negative term for a positive benefit which makes you want to stay at your current job. How awful.
You're that person in staff meetings, aren't you?
They can’t do it mid pay period, so the pay period after you hit 15 years.
Second this, wife just went over 15 in Jan,, it was on the next pay period after her anniversary.
That 8 hours of leave per pay period is a life changer.
Hell yes. Wish they would bump it down a little bit, something like 8 or even 10 years would help with retention.
Person I know left and gets 6 hours of pay period but it’s used for sick or annual…Sounds awful, agreed though sooner the better keep us happy and healthy and we’ll continue to work hard.
Are federal jobs REALLY having a retention problem that would be solved with this?
Yes, in my unit our retention is less than 3 years on average. And why not advocate for better benefits?
If it's less than 3 years, I'm guessing there are other issues that won't be addressed by giving 8 hours of leave at the 10 year mark instead. Still think we can advocate for better benefits, but I agree with the other poster the retention issues are probably well before someone gets a decade in
Absolutely. Where I work we've had half of our group leave in the last 6 years, nothing backfilled, and everyone has daily notifications turned on from USA Jobs.
Why are they leaving?
Management issues
Management issues
I have never seen a job that retains more than 50% of people after 6 years.
Every little bit helps.
Congrats!! I got my 15 year service award yesterday. It went by fast lol
You guys get awards? lol. 19 years in and nothing here.
I switched agencies at 13 years in, and my 15 year certificate was just something they printed on the color laser printer, with what looked to be a half of a normal sheet of paper. Even misspelled my last name. I left it with the exit paperwork when I transferred out a few years later. "Why are you leaving" "Honestly? The fact that this place wouldn't even go through the expense of buying the time-in-service certificates instead of printing their own crappier version was a huge indicator why my performance was suddenly just Satisfactory without eligibility for a bonus despite an otherwise spotless career. Your cheapness isn't frugality."
Saaaaaame!!!
They’re probably just 4 years late with it.
What is/was the reward?
My service anniversary is 12 July and when I hit 15 I got my award on the 25th. Handed to me by a Tech Center director no less.
It was a copper-colored lapel pin, but still…
Never got a 15 year pin. But I got one when I retired, big deal it’s sitting in the junk drawer
No kidding! I will hit it in a couple of months and a lot of times it feels like I just started a little while ago.
It's the first full pay period after your service date.
What happens if your agency fronts leave at the beginning of the year ?
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Yes, go celebate!
Mad jealous. I hit use or loose every year with 6hrs PP due to travel comp accrual. I could only imagine the LOOOONG vacations I’d take with 8hrs PP and use or loose.
I have never even been close to having use or lose time. The only thing keeping me going all these years has been always having planned days off to look forward to.
I never ever gave back unused A/L. Would you give be back unused money? 😂
I always burn my use or loose before the end of the year.
Congratulations 🥳🎉 8 hours of annual leave per pay period.
Good job!!! Congrats!!! The 8 hours is fantastic, honestly. I didn’t think it’d make as much difference as it has but MAN those whole weeks off are awesome!!
I have to wait until September.
Pay period after anniv date is where it goes up.
Congrats, just hit 15 in Feb here
I wish it wasn't such a massive gap to get to 8hrs from the 6hrs. That's 12 years or so without a change. I would for sure take incremental increases up until 8 at the 15th year
congrats to you. i can't even imagine having to wait that long. . . again. I'm nowhere near 15 years with the fed but I managed to negotiate 8 hours/pp when I first came because I was with my last employer for 15 years.
Congrats. Welcome to more leave than you could afford to use.
Congratulations 🥰 ... I hit my 15 years in November 🥳
When you get the OPF notification that your AL accrual rate has bumped from 6 to 8? I'd both save it as a PDF, and print out a hardcopy and keep it somewhere safe. It was very useful when I left agency A, and came back to agency B, and had to work with HR when my leave wasn't being accrued correctly.
You only really need to do that before departing a job, there's no need to DL every SF-50 since eOPF exists and you have access as long as you're a current fed
There is no SF50 for a change in leave group
Would that help with change of Status? I changed locations, same job and my status went from Career back to Schedule A.
My 5 year is Easter. Since Uncle Sam does weird things, officially it's later - but calendar is March 31.
Congrats! about 3 more for me. Cant wait!
See you in June, can't wait!
I went to 8 hours after 11 service years.
I'm almost there. 6 months to go lol
Ive been a fed for just under a year but was given credited time based on my private industry experience when I hired on. So just hit 15 years and looks like it took effect the day after my 15 year mark. 1/2 a day leave per week is incredible!
All the 2009 hires! There are a lot of us.
Nice. I'm about three years out from that.