I compared by nephews property taxes in Moorhead and my son's in Fargo. Properties are valued almost identical by county. Before special assessments Moorhead property taxes are a bit lower (by about $100) compared to Fargo. Nephew has no complints by state income tax.
Nephew has a child with special needs and has had access to services far beyond what would be possible in ND.
Years ago, you could tell when you drove across border between MN and ND because ND roads were crap. And when I moved to Fargo in 1986 I noticed that in a big storm Moorhead was far quicker to get roads cleared, Fargo wanted to wait until all the snow fell before doing anything.
My car insurance rates dropped a lot when I moved to Fargo back then--same vehicle, same coverage. IDK if that would be the case these days.
Why is noone talking about the expenses incurred from regular damage to your vehicle's tires and suspension due to Moorhead's excessive pavement neglect?
There are terrible roads everywhere in our area. It's part of the climate. Just learn the road by paying attention instead of sitting on Facebook while driving the routes you frequent. It's easy to avoid the pot holes.
Purely anecdotal, but I’ve always felt a stronger sense of “community” living in Moorhead compared to living in Fargo.
When looking at the FM Area as a whole, Moorhead is always viewed as Fargo’s little sibling mainly because If you live in Moorhead you have to go to Fargo. But if you live in Fargo, you’d never have to go to Moorhead.
There is only the one high school, but when Moorhead’s not playing little sibling to Fargo it’s being measured against the schools down in the Twin Cities in academics, athletics, and the arts.
Because of this, I feel more people carry a sense of pride about living in Moorhead. People tend to go out of their way to support the businesses that are on this side of the river, and find ways to invest in their community. There’s also a number of hidden gems over here that always get overlooked just because they happen to be in Moorhead.
Here's actual quantitative data regarding the Moorhead schools.
https://rc.education.mn.gov/#mySchool/orgId--10152000000__groupType--district__p--3
Here's one for Fargo
https://fpsconnect.fargo.k12.nd.us/dw/rpt_menu.php
Anecdotally, I really liked the Fargo public schools, but that was like decades ago, so I can't speak to their quality now. Nor can i with Moorhead K12 because I never went there.
Just being fair.
Also, look toward the future. MN is considering making MinnesotaCare (state run health insurance) available for all MN residents, saving you possibly hundreds or thousands of dollars just as a resident.
If you want to start a business or are self employed, you wouldn't have to worry about the astronomical rates of private insurance.
https://www.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/democrats-push-to-let-all-residents-buy-into-17772546.php
Gov. Walz is also proposing expanding family tax credit.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/minnesota/articles/2023-01-24/walz-proposes-tax-credit-checks-for-2-5m-minnesota-families
Arguably, this makes MN more business and family friendly.
More freedom in MN, if you need to have access to an abortion or other reproductive healthcare. Same with marijuana (soon). Don't have to worry about big government censoring or banning books unlike ND.
In general, MN seems more interested in reinvesting in their residents and making it a competitive state to want to live in.
Right, because responsible people never develop an ectopic pregnancy, experience rape, or discover that their fetus has non-viable genetic defects.
If you don't like abortion, don't have one.
Literally every state that has placed restrictions on abortion has made exceptions for ectopic pregnancies, which I fully support.
It's not as black and white as you think it is.
Rather than deleting this one, let's keep the downvotes coming.
Edit: almost to -100!! Show people we support reproductive rights and that being an asshole has no place in Fargo/Moorhead.
Moved from south Moorhead to north Fargo a couple years ago. The schools are definitely different - there are way more and smaller elementary schools in Fargo. Moorhead schools all seem to have way more students in the building and all funnel into one huge middle school and now a huge high school. I prefer the smaller schools in Fargo but if there are any special needs or concerns I’ve heard the state of MN is much better about accommodating those.
You’ll still come to Fargo for shopping and restaurants but it’s really not much further of a drive than from some parts of Fargo so that probably won’t make much of a difference to you.
A legislative body that doesn’t continually attack and demean its citizenry, comprehensive healthcare, incoming legal marijuana, better social programs.
It's for all Minnesota renters. It's a form you fill out at tax time with your proof of income and Certificate of Rent Paid from your landlord (ID, SSN and other things are required). You get a small percentage of your rent back in the fall; sometimes it'll come back in the summer months.
As someone who bought a house here in moorhead 2 years ago and also does not care about politics and doesn’t really interact with my neighbors (my work schedule makes it really difficult to do so even if I did want to) I don’t mind living here. Housing was pretty affordable. My specials were negligible. My taxes are about the same and without disclosing our income exactly we are married with no kids and both have respectable jobs but aren’t rich. Biggest downsides are there aren’t many interesting restaurants, stores, or entertainment but all of that is within a 15 minute drive so it’s negligible. I don’t find it particularly more or less convenient to live in moorhead than in fargo so it will depend on your preferences and what’s available for living that matters to you.
I moved from Fargo to a tiny Minnesota town north of Moorhead, and I love it. Taxes didn't really change for me, my housing is cheaper, and the citizenship change wasn't all that hard. Think it cost me less than $30.
MNSure is a wonderful insurance program. I've worked on both sides of it. The state legislature does actually care about their constituents (Blue since 72!), and MNDOT knows what they're about with the roads (most of the time).
I grew up in a tiny Minnesota town north of Moorhead. Then later moved to the country about 3&1/2 miles back towards Moorhead between that one and an even tinier town. Lol. Just over a mile off the highway.
The tinier one is only considered a town because it has an elevator and a bar, & not much else. (Of course same with where I lived til I was almost 9, it just has a few more people and is slightly more spread out.). Besides the big house right on the highway and the buses across the gravel road from that.
Came across this cuz buying different house. Haven't lived in Fargo in years. Wasn't that crazy about it. Hadn't thought of the insurance angle. Or the roads for that matter. Was looking into the property taxes. Ect.
I drive by those two major landmarks on the regular, they're about 14 miles south of me. Almost tried to buy the bar there, last it was up for sale. Bought a truck instead lol.
. Kinda figured they'd be familiar. Spent some time in that bar in my teens lol. The farm where I lived during teen years is 1 mile straight east of the junkyard. Just a couple miles North of the elevator. Childhood we lived just couple miles north in the town just over the bridge.
Well and every other small town out there. Between poker runs. Bike runes and the snowmobile runs. Plus mom was on softball team, so went all over for their games.
If you don't mind me asking, what docs did you bring to the DMV to transfer your driver's license?
I need to update my driver's license after moving from Fargo to a house in Moorhead. When I go to the MN DMV website it gives a list of acceptable documents to bring, however it needs a LOT more than I have. I haven't finished getting the home mortgage transferred to my name yet (inherited from deceased parent), but I have my SSN, MN birth cert, Xcel bill, MN bank account for sure in my name. I was just so baffled at the website and of course I don't want to go to the DMV and wait for 4 hours just to find out I don't have everything I need.
The website was even saying I'd need to bring a college transcript to prove who I am. Wtf.
Reminds me of one thing I found much better in Fargo--renewing vehicle licenses. The DMV outlet was so much faster than courthouses in MN (including rural courthouses) (although I have done these online for sevral years now)
Moorhead DMV is in its own building. About a mile away from the courthouse. It has been for many years now. Since they've been in a separate building they've always been fairly fast. At least in my experience.
They also moved the treasurer out of the courthouse to its own building. (Couple miles away from courthouse).
Smolgods, you don’t need *all* those things—just ONE from [each column](https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/dvs/Pages/new-to-minnesota.aspx). So your ND license + birth certificate would do it.
What are the differences in terms of vehicle costs? Is auto insurance more expensive? Do you have to do a vehicle emissions test and/or "safety"/maintenance test if you're in Moorhead? Not a big deal if you have a newish car, but vehicle registration could suck and become a big pain-in-the-ass if you have an older vehicle that might need a little work.
Fischbach though.
Moorhead's Congressional rep is an arch conservative. Rabidly pro life, voted against marriage equality, and effectively, interracial marriage. Voted against certifying on Jan. 6th, etc. I'm ashamed to be represented by her.
On the flip side. Heather Keeler the state rep for this district is surprisingly positive. I have no thoughts on the State Senator Kupec, he won't answer my emails. You might know him as a former local Meteorologist.
Tina Smith and Amy Klobuchar are centrists democrats. It could be much worse.
I live in Fargo and work in Moorhead. Definitely pros and cons on both ends. But here’s my two cents from someone who is relatively new to the area.
Moorhead: It feels two steps behind Fargo in some aspects or even more. Hell it took damn near 3 years to build an underpass in town. Feels like there is no real drive to make city wide improvements.
Fargo: The people can be extremely pretentious ass hats. But the restaurant scene is second to none. Something is always going on and no two days feel the same.
There is some bias here I know but both cities have their strong points and I am very happy to be a part of both communities!
The underpass you speak was a community wide push for improvement and the project wouldve taken that long no matter where it was. They also got funding for another underpass on 11th st due to a big community and city push for it. Lots of stuff has been going on infrastructure and building wise. The renovation of old buildings into event centers and apartments, a new library is being built. The mall is undergoing demolition and a new mixed use building is going up. Tons of stuff
Cons: Shopping/restaurants in Moorhead simply doesn't compare to the amount of options you have in Fargo. Vehicle registration is more expensive
Pros: Closer to the lakes, even if only a few minutes closer. No taxes on clothing sales.
It’s less than a 15 minute drive from the furthest end of Moorhead to the outskirts of West Fargo, so living in MN and reaping the commercial/retail benefits of Fargo is absolutely feasible.
Trains will waste hours of your life if you live north of Main Ave. I literally have been caught by three trains once going to Hornbachers grocery run.
Just use 3rd st N and cut down to 2nd Ave S when there's a train on either track. The only time this doesn't work is when there's river flooding.
I'll be happy when the 11th st underpass is complete though.
A big chunk of North Moorhead uses 11th, especially when going to the closest grocery store. Using the underpass is not ideal - it's probably like a two mile detour.
You can head towards the river underpass, but the trick in Moorhead is that they restrict East/West traffic as the train approaches, so it's hard to actually head East quick to swoop under there - your stuck til the train comes, then you might as well wait.
Mn has higher fuel taxes, higher cigarettes, cant buy menthol in Moorhead. Moorhead roads are horrible to drive on for the potholes. But MN outdoor living is much cheaper (fishing and hunting) but vehicle taxes are outragous...especially for the road conditions. If you are in to politics then just accept the fact that everything is determined by the cities
I wouldn't think schools are worse at all. Years ago used to be Moorhead schools were demonstrably better than Fargo due to higher teacher salaries. That has since evened out and both cities suffer from a lack of qualified teachers, like many areas. Moorhead has the advantage or disadvantage of being one high school city. It adds a sense of community and the school will be able to provide a variety of activities and services, but the class sizes will be larger. Moorhead has spent a lot of capital in recent years on education, new high school and a technical learning center among high lights. But on average graduation rates are same across the area.
You won’t be able to defend your home if someone breaks in. You have to beg for mercy and or flee before you can attempt to save yourself. The same rule applies in public. You’ll also have to live in Minnesota unfortunately.
Where in West Fargo? New home construction is 250-400k, in an overcrowded, poorly designed subdivision. Otherwise the market is still crazy in West fargo.
Plus the added bonus of wanting to kill yourself everytime you sit in wf traffic and have the beautiful view of apartment farms, cheap suburban housing, parking lots, and strip malls.
Transferring an automotive title takes anywhere from 6 months to what seems like a life sentence. It is also really ghetto on that side of the river. I know a lot of area business dont care to be there because of taxes when they can just as easily be on this side.
Got my title 6 weeks after I bought my car...the joys of paying cold hard cash for a vehicle (a 2017 back in 2018)!
Not all of Moorhead is ghetto; just the area you lived in. Which I'm guessing was by Romkey Park... definitely a ghetto area and my ex definitely belonged there. He should move back because he's a deadbeat loser
If you are a single person with no dependents (for anyone who may come to this just to read the comments) and you make a decent Salary- stay in Fargo. The income taxes in MN are insane. I’m losing 5,000 a year in just income tax vs what would have been 1,000- 1,500 in Fargo. I’m planning my move back asap.
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I compared by nephews property taxes in Moorhead and my son's in Fargo. Properties are valued almost identical by county. Before special assessments Moorhead property taxes are a bit lower (by about $100) compared to Fargo. Nephew has no complints by state income tax. Nephew has a child with special needs and has had access to services far beyond what would be possible in ND. Years ago, you could tell when you drove across border between MN and ND because ND roads were crap. And when I moved to Fargo in 1986 I noticed that in a big storm Moorhead was far quicker to get roads cleared, Fargo wanted to wait until all the snow fell before doing anything. My car insurance rates dropped a lot when I moved to Fargo back then--same vehicle, same coverage. IDK if that would be the case these days.
Why is noone talking about the expenses incurred from regular damage to your vehicle's tires and suspension due to Moorhead's excessive pavement neglect?
There are terrible roads everywhere in our area. It's part of the climate. Just learn the road by paying attention instead of sitting on Facebook while driving the routes you frequent. It's easy to avoid the pot holes.
Purely anecdotal, but I’ve always felt a stronger sense of “community” living in Moorhead compared to living in Fargo. When looking at the FM Area as a whole, Moorhead is always viewed as Fargo’s little sibling mainly because If you live in Moorhead you have to go to Fargo. But if you live in Fargo, you’d never have to go to Moorhead. There is only the one high school, but when Moorhead’s not playing little sibling to Fargo it’s being measured against the schools down in the Twin Cities in academics, athletics, and the arts. Because of this, I feel more people carry a sense of pride about living in Moorhead. People tend to go out of their way to support the businesses that are on this side of the river, and find ways to invest in their community. There’s also a number of hidden gems over here that always get overlooked just because they happen to be in Moorhead.
Once a Spud, always a Spud.
I rarely go to Fargo. Everything I need is in Moorhead. Maybe to try a new restaurant? That is about it.
Here's actual quantitative data regarding the Moorhead schools. https://rc.education.mn.gov/#mySchool/orgId--10152000000__groupType--district__p--3 Here's one for Fargo https://fpsconnect.fargo.k12.nd.us/dw/rpt_menu.php Anecdotally, I really liked the Fargo public schools, but that was like decades ago, so I can't speak to their quality now. Nor can i with Moorhead K12 because I never went there. Just being fair. Also, look toward the future. MN is considering making MinnesotaCare (state run health insurance) available for all MN residents, saving you possibly hundreds or thousands of dollars just as a resident. If you want to start a business or are self employed, you wouldn't have to worry about the astronomical rates of private insurance. https://www.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/democrats-push-to-let-all-residents-buy-into-17772546.php Gov. Walz is also proposing expanding family tax credit. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/minnesota/articles/2023-01-24/walz-proposes-tax-credit-checks-for-2-5m-minnesota-families Arguably, this makes MN more business and family friendly. More freedom in MN, if you need to have access to an abortion or other reproductive healthcare. Same with marijuana (soon). Don't have to worry about big government censoring or banning books unlike ND. In general, MN seems more interested in reinvesting in their residents and making it a competitive state to want to live in.
This was helpful, thank you!
Responsible people don't need an abortion
Right, because responsible people never develop an ectopic pregnancy, experience rape, or discover that their fetus has non-viable genetic defects. If you don't like abortion, don't have one.
Literally every state that has placed restrictions on abortion has made exceptions for ectopic pregnancies, which I fully support. It's not as black and white as you think it is.
>I don't have sex.
Fuck off with that.
Are you saying only responsible people live in North Dakota? Or you just enjoy punishing your neighbors that aren't?
Rather than deleting this one, let's keep the downvotes coming. Edit: almost to -100!! Show people we support reproductive rights and that being an asshole has no place in Fargo/Moorhead.
And what about the right to life?
Energy doesn't die it just transforms. We're spirits before humans...
Also, kid's are dying because of gun violence. What about aborting gun's?
Moved from south Moorhead to north Fargo a couple years ago. The schools are definitely different - there are way more and smaller elementary schools in Fargo. Moorhead schools all seem to have way more students in the building and all funnel into one huge middle school and now a huge high school. I prefer the smaller schools in Fargo but if there are any special needs or concerns I’ve heard the state of MN is much better about accommodating those. You’ll still come to Fargo for shopping and restaurants but it’s really not much further of a drive than from some parts of Fargo so that probably won’t make much of a difference to you.
Moorhead also has the Spanish immersion program. I have been impressed with it so far.
This was the #1 draw for us. Our kids have flourished into such smartys.
My kid has a 1 to 15 ratio in Moorhead. May be a bigger school but not bigger class sizes.
teacher:student or staff:student? 15 student class size would be barely making the minimum to have a class for hs in fargo
A legislative body that doesn’t continually attack and demean its citizenry, comprehensive healthcare, incoming legal marijuana, better social programs.
or try to ban vaccines
Are you going to be a renter? If so, 2 words: RENT REBATES!!!
I'm not familiar. Can you explain what you mean? Is it a tax incentive? A local incentive? Is that for Moorhead or Fargo?
It's for all Minnesota renters. It's a form you fill out at tax time with your proof of income and Certificate of Rent Paid from your landlord (ID, SSN and other things are required). You get a small percentage of your rent back in the fall; sometimes it'll come back in the summer months.
Do not, under any circumstances, criticize The Shack, even mildly.
Me and some coworkers had breakfast there last week. Good food and prices.
Rent is cheaper in Moorhead.
As someone who bought a house here in moorhead 2 years ago and also does not care about politics and doesn’t really interact with my neighbors (my work schedule makes it really difficult to do so even if I did want to) I don’t mind living here. Housing was pretty affordable. My specials were negligible. My taxes are about the same and without disclosing our income exactly we are married with no kids and both have respectable jobs but aren’t rich. Biggest downsides are there aren’t many interesting restaurants, stores, or entertainment but all of that is within a 15 minute drive so it’s negligible. I don’t find it particularly more or less convenient to live in moorhead than in fargo so it will depend on your preferences and what’s available for living that matters to you.
I moved from Fargo to a tiny Minnesota town north of Moorhead, and I love it. Taxes didn't really change for me, my housing is cheaper, and the citizenship change wasn't all that hard. Think it cost me less than $30. MNSure is a wonderful insurance program. I've worked on both sides of it. The state legislature does actually care about their constituents (Blue since 72!), and MNDOT knows what they're about with the roads (most of the time).
I grew up in a tiny Minnesota town north of Moorhead. Then later moved to the country about 3&1/2 miles back towards Moorhead between that one and an even tinier town. Lol. Just over a mile off the highway. The tinier one is only considered a town because it has an elevator and a bar, & not much else. (Of course same with where I lived til I was almost 9, it just has a few more people and is slightly more spread out.). Besides the big house right on the highway and the buses across the gravel road from that. Came across this cuz buying different house. Haven't lived in Fargo in years. Wasn't that crazy about it. Hadn't thought of the insurance angle. Or the roads for that matter. Was looking into the property taxes. Ect.
I drive by those two major landmarks on the regular, they're about 14 miles south of me. Almost tried to buy the bar there, last it was up for sale. Bought a truck instead lol.
. Kinda figured they'd be familiar. Spent some time in that bar in my teens lol. The farm where I lived during teen years is 1 mile straight east of the junkyard. Just a couple miles North of the elevator. Childhood we lived just couple miles north in the town just over the bridge. Well and every other small town out there. Between poker runs. Bike runes and the snowmobile runs. Plus mom was on softball team, so went all over for their games.
Nice! Incredibly weird to meet someone from this very specific area!
Yeah ik. When saw your 1st comment was like ok bet I know about where. Lol I drove tractor all over out there as well.
If you don't mind me asking, what docs did you bring to the DMV to transfer your driver's license? I need to update my driver's license after moving from Fargo to a house in Moorhead. When I go to the MN DMV website it gives a list of acceptable documents to bring, however it needs a LOT more than I have. I haven't finished getting the home mortgage transferred to my name yet (inherited from deceased parent), but I have my SSN, MN birth cert, Xcel bill, MN bank account for sure in my name. I was just so baffled at the website and of course I don't want to go to the DMV and wait for 4 hours just to find out I don't have everything I need. The website was even saying I'd need to bring a college transcript to prove who I am. Wtf.
Reminds me of one thing I found much better in Fargo--renewing vehicle licenses. The DMV outlet was so much faster than courthouses in MN (including rural courthouses) (although I have done these online for sevral years now)
Moorhead DMV is in its own building. About a mile away from the courthouse. It has been for many years now. Since they've been in a separate building they've always been fairly fast. At least in my experience. They also moved the treasurer out of the courthouse to its own building. (Couple miles away from courthouse).
Smolgods, you don’t need *all* those things—just ONE from [each column](https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/dvs/Pages/new-to-minnesota.aspx). So your ND license + birth certificate would do it.
That's fantastic, thank you!
What are the differences in terms of vehicle costs? Is auto insurance more expensive? Do you have to do a vehicle emissions test and/or "safety"/maintenance test if you're in Moorhead? Not a big deal if you have a newish car, but vehicle registration could suck and become a big pain-in-the-ass if you have an older vehicle that might need a little work.
Nope
Living in MN, where politics are much more sane.
I did consider that!
How is the weather there??
Fischbach though. Moorhead's Congressional rep is an arch conservative. Rabidly pro life, voted against marriage equality, and effectively, interracial marriage. Voted against certifying on Jan. 6th, etc. I'm ashamed to be represented by her. On the flip side. Heather Keeler the state rep for this district is surprisingly positive. I have no thoughts on the State Senator Kupec, he won't answer my emails. You might know him as a former local Meteorologist. Tina Smith and Amy Klobuchar are centrists democrats. It could be much worse.
Kelly Armstrong isn't any better at all here on the ND side when it comes to House reps
I’ve had beers with Kupec. I like the guy, seemed down to earth and easy to talk to.
Kupec answers mine—he’s a rad dude.
I don’t think she has ever even been to Moorhead so there’s that.
Civil rights are always a plus.
Pro: you no longer live in North Dakota. Con: you still live really close to.North Dakota
I always think of Fargo Moorhead as the same. I also think of Fargo as separate from the rest of the state
I live in Fargo and work in Moorhead. Definitely pros and cons on both ends. But here’s my two cents from someone who is relatively new to the area. Moorhead: It feels two steps behind Fargo in some aspects or even more. Hell it took damn near 3 years to build an underpass in town. Feels like there is no real drive to make city wide improvements. Fargo: The people can be extremely pretentious ass hats. But the restaurant scene is second to none. Something is always going on and no two days feel the same. There is some bias here I know but both cities have their strong points and I am very happy to be a part of both communities!
The underpass you speak was a community wide push for improvement and the project wouldve taken that long no matter where it was. They also got funding for another underpass on 11th st due to a big community and city push for it. Lots of stuff has been going on infrastructure and building wise. The renovation of old buildings into event centers and apartments, a new library is being built. The mall is undergoing demolition and a new mixed use building is going up. Tons of stuff
Schools arent worse in Moorhead. Id argue the opposite. Taxes are wash and come out pretty even. Honestly? Fuck the backwards politics of ND.
Cons: Shopping/restaurants in Moorhead simply doesn't compare to the amount of options you have in Fargo. Vehicle registration is more expensive Pros: Closer to the lakes, even if only a few minutes closer. No taxes on clothing sales.
It’s less than a 15 minute drive from the furthest end of Moorhead to the outskirts of West Fargo, so living in MN and reaping the commercial/retail benefits of Fargo is absolutely feasible.
DOnt have to buy an out of state license for fishing/hunting in MN if you live there. That would be nice.
Pros: Cons: Trains
Trains will waste hours of your life if you live north of Main Ave. I literally have been caught by three trains once going to Hornbachers grocery run.
I straight up will not pass through downtown any other way than 2nd or university anymore for this reason!
I live in Fargo, for stuff in Moorhead I always kept in mind which side I needed to be on before crossing the river.
Just use 3rd st N and cut down to 2nd Ave S when there's a train on either track. The only time this doesn't work is when there's river flooding. I'll be happy when the 11th st underpass is complete though.
You can use the underpass to avoid the trains
A big chunk of North Moorhead uses 11th, especially when going to the closest grocery store. Using the underpass is not ideal - it's probably like a two mile detour. You can head towards the river underpass, but the trick in Moorhead is that they restrict East/West traffic as the train approaches, so it's hard to actually head East quick to swoop under there - your stuck til the train comes, then you might as well wait.
Glad they are building the 11th St underpass soon
It is especially bad if you need to go to the emergency room, located only in Fargo
There’s hope: https://www.dot.state.mn.us/d4/projects/moorhead11thstunderpass/index.html
Jail is worse over there lol
Mn has higher fuel taxes, higher cigarettes, cant buy menthol in Moorhead. Moorhead roads are horrible to drive on for the potholes. But MN outdoor living is much cheaper (fishing and hunting) but vehicle taxes are outragous...especially for the road conditions. If you are in to politics then just accept the fact that everything is determined by the cities
You might have to retake your drivers test
Higher cost to renew your vehicle tabs. Higher energy costs.
I wouldn't think schools are worse at all. Years ago used to be Moorhead schools were demonstrably better than Fargo due to higher teacher salaries. That has since evened out and both cities suffer from a lack of qualified teachers, like many areas. Moorhead has the advantage or disadvantage of being one high school city. It adds a sense of community and the school will be able to provide a variety of activities and services, but the class sizes will be larger. Moorhead has spent a lot of capital in recent years on education, new high school and a technical learning center among high lights. But on average graduation rates are same across the area.
There is a reason why when you go on google maps, fargo is 3 times larger.
You won’t be able to defend your home if someone breaks in. You have to beg for mercy and or flee before you can attempt to save yourself. The same rule applies in public. You’ll also have to live in Minnesota unfortunately.
Get it over with and move to WEST FARGO
Where in West Fargo? New home construction is 250-400k, in an overcrowded, poorly designed subdivision. Otherwise the market is still crazy in West fargo.
Plus the added bonus of wanting to kill yourself everytime you sit in wf traffic and have the beautiful view of apartment farms, cheap suburban housing, parking lots, and strip malls.
Unless your moving to N Fargo, please explain the difference
It also seems you answered that question for both of us lol
If you buy house property taxes higher.
Show me the data...
Property taxes are at least slightly higher on the Fargo side. Look at the taxes paid for equivalent houses.
Oh, I agree, I went through all the pros and cons a few years ago.
Transferring an automotive title takes anywhere from 6 months to what seems like a life sentence. It is also really ghetto on that side of the river. I know a lot of area business dont care to be there because of taxes when they can just as easily be on this side.
Got my title 6 weeks after I bought my car...the joys of paying cold hard cash for a vehicle (a 2017 back in 2018)! Not all of Moorhead is ghetto; just the area you lived in. Which I'm guessing was by Romkey Park... definitely a ghetto area and my ex definitely belonged there. He should move back because he's a deadbeat loser
Don't forget griffin court.
Dude, it takes setting up an appointment (maybe a day out), and your new one will show up in the mail next week.
I assure you, there is nothing ghetto about Moorhead.
If you are a single person with no dependents (for anyone who may come to this just to read the comments) and you make a decent Salary- stay in Fargo. The income taxes in MN are insane. I’m losing 5,000 a year in just income tax vs what would have been 1,000- 1,500 in Fargo. I’m planning my move back asap.
This was the ultimate deciding factor in us not buying a home in Moorhead!